Some advice required for upgrade form ddr4 and am4
Posted by Ehiffi@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 16 comments
Specs:
- Ryzen 5 5600
- Radeon RX 5700
- 16 GB DDR4 Memory ADATA XPG GAMMIX D20
- GIGABYTE B450m DS3H
Everything else is irrelevant.
I want to switch from AM4 to AM5 but I want to save my GPU for some time and don't want to spend much, somewhere around 500$ ≈ 38.000 ruble
Which is a best fit of MB and CPU. memory is a bit irrelevant I will most-likely gonna buy 16GB DDR5 for future upgrade to 32GB, so I would like to buy a MB with 4 slots for ram.
Use case is gaming mostly.
Ehiffi@reddit (OP)
9069xt from who is better for good price? I remember the top was sapphire cards and their nitro cards. What about now?
coolboy856@reddit
Cheapest one! Bigger card generally better, XFX tends to have +-$10 above cheapest so get one of those if so
CtrlAltDesolate@reddit
I would probably do that the other way around.
Get the GPU you want now, then do the rest when you can afford the CPU / motherboard / ram combination you want on AM5.
No only will you see a bigger uplift now that way, but also hopefully the ram prices will have come down a little more by the time the AM5 part of the purchase happens.
Ehiffi@reddit (OP)
That is actually reasonable.
SnooDoubts807@reddit
Get a 9060XT 16GB, the 5600 is still very capable in most games today.
Ehiffi@reddit (OP)
Interesting take but my mb isn't capable of pcie 4, only 3. Is this relevant now?
SnooDoubts807@reddit
The performance difference is like 1-5% depending on the game. Doubt you'll notice it though if you buy a mobo that has PCIE 4.0.
coolboy856@reddit
No need to run PCIe 4.0, as you said, it's irrelevant
MrJuuuu@reddit
Shouldn't be a problem. Performance wise its quite similar as well.
I use a 5800x with a b550 mb and a 9070xt gpu. No problem at all. But I have a riser cable with gen3. I have to change the settings in the bios manually to gen3.
Ehiffi@reddit (OP)
Because as how much I remember it didn't back in the past
aminy23@reddit
If your use case is gaming, the GPU matters more.
5700(XT) < 6700(XT) < 7700XT < 9060XT.
With a 9060XT and Ryzen 5600 vs a 9060XT and Ryzen 9800X3D there is a 3FPS difference at 1440P Medium on average:
https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/3021/bench/Average-1440-p.webp
With an RX 5700, even if you have the best CPU in the world, there will likely be an even smaller difference.
DDR5 is a complete waste of money at this budget. Unless you're trying to chase 150+ FPS at 720P/1080P low settings in certain games, even a CPU upgrade is likely a waste of money.
A 5600 is easily capable of 80-100+ FPS in most games still and can handle a significantly stronger GPU which is your weak point.
Ehiffi@reddit (OP)
So it's better to buy additional 16gb ddr4 and more better gpu?
aminy23@reddit
Better GPU would be the first choice.
Doubling your RAM to 32GB Is OK, but won't make a huge difference.
Eventually if you need a stronger GPU, you could look to see if you can find a 5000X3D CPU locally or if not maybe you could look at Intel 12th Gen or 14th Gen. Don't buy 13th Gen:
* 13100-13500 is fine, but not a worthwhile upgrade * 13600K-13900K has multiple issues.
A 14600KF-14900KS had issues where high voltage damages the CPU. These CPUs should never be bought used, because they have a high rate of damage. However BIOS updates fixed the voltage issue preventing damage.
So a new CPU with a new BIOS update won't get damaged. But once it's already damaged, then it can't be fixed.
Ehiffi@reddit (OP)
Thanks for recommending intel processors but I don't really like them over AMD. Will upgrade GPU first then the rest components
aminy23@reddit
It's fair, I've used both quite a bit. The benefit of 12th/14th Gen Intel is it is cheap, abundant, and supports both DDR4 & DDR5.
The AMD 5000X3D is my first recommendation, but it's not cheap and not abundant.
AM5 is premium, not cheap.
For example here in the US:
LGA1700
Works with DDR4, but needs new motherboard making it $284.
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AM4
AMD Ryzen 5000 X3D are sold out in stores, and often go for $300+ used.
AM5
Shouldn't be used with ASUS/AsRock boards, costs about $500
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LGA1851
Competitive against AM5 non-X3D, but can't beat X3D in most games.
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Big-Salamander-2158@reddit
You’d see almost no difference in gaming performance if you keep that gpu but upgrade the rest.