Budget $600 | TheaterFire

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

You really aren't beating Ruger for a cheap high feature G19 copy. I wouldn't put much value into an aluminum frame over plastic and Ruger not making turkshit shotguns is a big selling point.

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Aggravating-Fuel1704@reddit

Ruger makes shit semiauto pistols. They needed Magpuls help and to copy Glock to come out with something decent. 🤣

They all feel cheaply made. Even more than a "Turkshit" pistol like a Canik.

And the XF isn't even a G19 copy. It only uses a Glock barrel and magazine.

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

How is the recoil? I'm looking for the least amount of recoil possible.

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

Every 9mm pistol will have the same amount of recoil.

A heavy steel frame will have a slower impulse and feel less "sharp", a lighter slide will also feel less sharp. A heavy slide and a higher barrel over the grip will twist upwards more. Some people have a strong preference on how the recoil feels, but it's there all the same.

The exception being a barrel mounted (not slide) brake/compensator which will reduce recoil some at the cost of significantly more noise at the shooter's ears and behind them.

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Da_hoodest_hoodrat@reddit

Objectively untrue lol. Felt recoil is greatly varied by weight of the firearm, if there is a ported barrel/ muzzle device, ammo choice, recoil spring resistance, bore axis, and more things that I can’t think of off the top of my head this second.

There is genuinely more of a chance that 2 handguns of the same caliber will have different felt recoil than the same.

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

Reading isn't that hard dude.

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Da_hoodest_hoodrat@reddit

You contradicted yourself at every step of your comment. Recoil is not all the same. If “impulse speed” and “feel” change between firearms, the amount of recoil is not the same lmfao. What you said made no sense so I corrected it for anyone else reading.

If you are talking about the actual ft/lbs of energy being reciprocated into the shooter(recoil), it is still not the same between all the factors that I listed in my previous comment.

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

My lack of faith in humanity is resorted, What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

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Lawrence_skywalker@reddit

If you're really worried about recoil most pawn shops can't wait to rid of P320s. You have a good chance of getting a one that's extra reliable.

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

Why do they want to get rid of them? Are they bad?

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msur@reddit

Some P320's have on rare occasions fired for no apparent reason. As a result, Sig now recommends that you do not put rounds in the chamber of the gun, or in the magazine, or anywhere near the gun. When fully unloaded the gun is completely reliable and inert.

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QuokkaAMA@reddit

Sig managed to take the shitty experience of "pulling the trigger" out of the equation.

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JimMarch@reddit

I've got a 9mm smaller than that - same size as a Glock 26. I did something ridiculous and cheap to seriously carve up recoil: gas pedals. (I only use one at a time.)

Mine are dirt cheap, huge and hilarious. I'm able to get away with this insanity because I design and build my own style of fast-draw fanny pack.

I'm basically putting the full power of my offhand thumb into the recoil control game, forward of the triggerguard, pinching the front of the gun between offhand thumb down and offhand fingers up (under the triggerguard).

If you don't want to have to make your own holster, the Antimatter Industries Wing is a folding gas pedal in the same location as my setup, similar in size, much more expensive because it's about $110 plus it needs to mount on a specific weapon mounted light so it's about $225 to $250 with light. But because the pedal folds it fits in conventional holsters.

Wing (see top picture for usage):

https://www.antimatterindustries.com/wing-buy-now

My bizarre holster:

https://youtu.be/RWFif9d3k00

My freaky build (and yeah, this isn't just daily carry, it's "every time I have pants on" carry):

https://imgur.com/gallery/61h11Jw

It doesn't make the gun longer like an add-on comp, doesn't make it louder and because you're less likely to limp wrist, reliability goes up - with my setup or the Antimatter Industries Wing.

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

Thanks

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BigBoarBallistics@reddit

9mm is not a high recoiling cartridge lol

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Threather19@reddit

Be normal and get an RXM

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illestdomer2005@reddit

RXM feels amazing outside of the trigger.

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BigBoarBallistics@reddit

the rxm's trigger is pretty good wytb? Much better than stock glock

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airmech1776@reddit

Idk why people say this. Shooting them back to back to back, Gen5, MR920, and RXM, the Ruger is the heaviest and least smooth trigger I own.

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BigBoarBallistics@reddit

the rxm does NOT have a heavy trigger lol

How many rounds have you put through it / dry fire? It has a rolling break but that's part of what contributes to its smooth pull. Mine is buttery smooth.

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airmech1776@reddit

It certainly isnt horrible, and does its job well enough, but it is heavier and grittier than my other glocks. I have 4 Glocks, the MR 920, and the RXM. I have no doubt that the difference is measurable, but I'm not going to buy a trigger pull gauge just for that. Only gun Ive owned with a less pleasant trigger was a Hellcat Pro. Sample size of only 6 guns I guess.

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BaronvonBrick@reddit

Alright listen. Let's just agree that we're all wrong.

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illestdomer2005@reddit

Long reset as I recall as well. Compare it to a CZ P-10 at a similar price point, and it’s not even close (my personal preference).

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

But what about the recoil? My hands are small, and I have little strength in my wrists.

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BenefitKey8953@reddit

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Dull_Reference_5094@reddit

Oooof. Recommend the girl gun.

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BaronvonBrick@reddit

Lol I got one for my 62 year old ma and she loves it

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cleveraccountname13@reddit

Gyro ball for grip and wrist stength. $20 and 5 minutes a day make a big differenc.

Ruger will leave you money for an optic for your budget. Or a holster and a belt. Or ammo to practice.

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

Thanks

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Threather19@reddit

Skill issue

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msur@reddit

It's fine. I believe in you. Try it at a rental range.

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Chase0288@reddit

I'd buy a Shield X. Same capacity as a G19, but thinner framed, standard model 500 USD.

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lilcoold12345@reddit

CZ P10C

Phenomenal handgun for the price.

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DayManFOTNightMan@reddit

Really any CZ is phenomenal for the price.

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xhypurr@reddit

I had to look this up to see what it even was. I guess I don’t understand….why? If I was going to buy a metal-framed pistol I’d go DA/SA and buy a CZ P-01/PCR for a hundred bucks more from a company I know is going to exist twenty years from now.

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Aggravating-Fuel1704@reddit

You do know that Fusion Firearms has been around for nearly 20 years right? And the founder was president of Dan Wesson that help build their reputation which CZ bought.

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

But what does that have to do with ~~the price of tea in China~~ Turkish pistols?

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

I am looking for a 9mm for self-defense, with the least possible recoil.

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xhypurr@reddit

…polymer framed 9mm has too much recoil? Alright….judgement aside:

Browning High-Power ($500-900) CZ-75 / PCR / P-01 ($600-700) Beretta 92 series ($600+) Sig P226/229 ($1000+, maybe $700 used)

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

My hands so weak.

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MediocreVibrations@reddit

Weak? M&P Shield EZ

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Thegrandestpoo@reddit

I have a Glock 17.v and it’s great. Very manageable recoil.

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snootch2thenootch@reddit

Rost Martin RM1C

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youy23@reddit

You can buy a LEO trade in glock 17 gen 5 for like $400.

If you’re gonna rely your life on it, I’d probably stay away from the ruger rxm till it proves itself more. Ruger has had an absolutely awful reputation for poor QC.

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Dull_Reference_5094@reddit

Brother if you don’t go buy the Ruger RXM, you will regret it for the rest of your life. What other pistol can you have a G19, G17, G26 all in the same handgun without having to register multiple frames? And don’t say Polymer80 lol.

Seriously, I can’t recommend the RXM more as not only a budget option, but as any option for a 9mm pistol.

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Electronic_Camera251@reddit

Regardless of what you decide on $600 is too close by the time you have the bits and bobs necessary for your personal accessories, the bits and bobs necessary for safe handling storage, maintenance you even if you went bargain basement hunting (this can be a money saver or a money sink its up to you to decide where your dollars are best spent) you will be significantly over budget without even smelling ammo another consideration ,i have seen people buying a “quirky” first gun only to realize that the available aftermarket support leaves something to be desired . Therefore it’s probably a good idea to have a full package in mind because the gun is only on part of the system

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DesignerEconomist224@reddit

I picked one of these up for my wife for $500. Honest opinion its a cross between gen 3 g19 and Cz shadow 2 grip. It shoots very well and feels great in the my hands. It uses a full length slide rails and makes smooth shooting. Comes with an rmr/sro mounting plate and we enjoy the larger optic. If im comparing it to rxm, id take this. It has a way better trigger. Hope this helps.

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smitbret@reddit

Instead of getting something unknown and unproven, get a Springfield XD-M or, if recoil is that big of a deal, get a Bodyguard 2.0 in .380 ACP

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Blakefilk@reddit

If you’re that worried about recoil and you have weak hands I’d suggest a 380 and go from there.

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BigBoarBallistics@reddit

Ruger RXM without a fraction of a doubt. Never even heard of the "XF PRO"

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Missouri_Pacific@reddit

Get a KelTec P15 Metal! It’s lightweight and easy to conceal ! A vendor onGB has a couple for $479 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1170773855

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MM_Spartan@reddit

Spring XD Mod 4 is an excellent gun. I bought the Mod 2 10 years and it’s been my favorite pistol to this day.

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wlogan0402@reddit

Used p10c for $300, streamlight for $100, handful of used mags for $80, and $120 in ammo

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sinsofcarolina@reddit

CZ P10 for a budget striker fire

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Lawrence_skywalker@reddit

Good luck getting a holster or anything accessories.

Also RXM cost 400 at the big box store all day long.

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RedOwl97@reddit

I am not familiar with Fusion’s lineup. At $600 there is quite a wide range in this size class. Ruger RXM at $400 and the Canik MC9 Prime at $600 are both good bets. However, they are both polymer framed whereas the XF is aluminum. I actually prefer polymer but you do you.

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

I am looking for a 9mm for self-defense, with the least possible recoil.

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RedOwl97@reddit

Heavier guns tend to be better for recoil management and the XF4 is about 3 ounces heavier than the Ruger - but I would still take the RXM. If you want to add weight then use the money that you save on the gun to buy a light.

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sexywizard420@reddit

First question is what is the pistol for? If a general purpose use is what you want...

If it were me buying, I'd get a larger slim 9mm like FN reflex XL, sig p365 macro, S&W shield x

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ContributionSimple28@reddit (OP)

I am looking for a 9mm for self-defense, with the least possible recoil.

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