[Parts] Spanish Star Z-70B Parts Kit 9mm Parabellum - With 20 Rd & 30 Rd Magazines - $139.99 + Shipping/Tax

The only issue I see here is that it is an open bolt SMG. Which is a machine gun, and I think all open bolts are classified as such because all you need for it to go full auto is releasing the sear. So if you value the life of your dog you should do some long and hard thinking before completing one of these, unless you can somehow make it a closed bolt semi auto.

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Mewho10@reddit

I think these aren't as bad as most open bolt SMGs because the bolt already has a hole for the firing pin, rather than it being one piece, so you don't have to drill a hole.

You'd have to form 1 it to keep the stock though, and without its kind of weird and bulky for no reason.

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WatercressStreet2084@reddit

you dont

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Triggerz777@reddit

Tig welder goes meeeeeeeeee

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VallettaAwoo@reddit

there are a few builders but its going to cost between 900-1400

however, youll have a sick as hell gun

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bigfatround0@reddit

Can you name a few? I found one (proteus armaments), but he's got a wait list stretching to 2027.

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DrFeeIgood@reddit

MGM LLC on Facebook (in Northern Kentucky) made jigs within the last month or so and built a couple. He ran the jigs a couple times in batches and sold them. Its doable. He also has videos up about the guns and the build.

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Hisetic@reddit

These will be back, I talked to the owner of Centerfire at the NRA annual. He said they are going to flood the market with these. They will be like the CETME C kits out there now... also CETME L kits are coming for $159, supposed to release this week but it might be later.

All these kits are coming from Lebanon, as of mid 2025 thanks to US aid they are in the process of modernizing their small arms to align with NATO platforms. The old spanish weaponry is getting cut up and purchased by companies like CF.

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economicconstruction@reddit

Are the “new” CETME L kits different than the ones they have currently? Intact barrel?

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Hisetic@reddit

Intact barrel, they won't have a flat included because he couldn't work out a deal with the primary flat maker for that rifle in the though.

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economicconstruction@reddit

I’m looking forward to this kit. Hope they have an option to get a bayonet with it too.

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SteedOfTheDeid@reddit

Who do I have to beg to get FAMAS kits imported?

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onyourleftbro@reddit (OP)

Moka's Raifus had some in stock a week or two ago.

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Hisetic@reddit

Go back and time and prevent the French from destroying all of their rifles when they switched platforms. What is out there now is going to be slim pickings and expensive. SONNY I KNOW WHAT I GOT!

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Catch22Copilot@reddit

That guy didn't mention anything about more FAL's did he? Missed the wood stock kits and would love to get a second chance.

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

Bowman has Israeli kits for pretty cheap.

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Hisetic@reddit

He did not, we mostly talked about all the Spanish stuff. Im guessing based on the prices of the early FAL kits coming out of that country there weren't a lot.

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ciscoladder@reddit

Well, if there’s no receiver, then how are you supposed to put it together ? I mean most all the parts require the receiver to be the central point of attachment.

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SteedOfTheDeid@reddit

There is a receiver, it's just cut into 3 pieces

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Droguegun@reddit

Remember the cheaper they are the harder they are to build. There jigs out there and repair tubes probably the hardest part is figuring out how to make that lower s/an only.

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Crash_Ntome@reddit

Apex restocked as well

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Responsible_Screen81@reddit

Someone needs to design a 3D printable

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LostPrimer@reddit

It's an open bolt bullet hose. It doesn't really lend itself to being easily converted.

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Diligent-Parfait-236@reddit

Who said anything about conversion?

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Squirrelynuts@reddit

chad gif

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Appropriate_Till6129@reddit

I'm almost positive it's legal to own an open bolt semi auto gun. I've heard smarter lawyers than me say so. The ATF doesn't like it but as long as it's not a machine gun it can have an open bolt. None of this readily convertible bullshit.

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thechatchbag@reddit

I'm going to start collecting parts kits, but being in WA I wonder if they'll ship them to me.

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bigfatround0@reddit

I dont know squad about kits, but im in for one. Bought a sling as well for the hell of it.

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GreenTree3@reddit

Well there are basically 4 general tiers of parts kits builds assuming you're not an FFL making MGs... 1. Parts kits with new complete semi auto receivers you just have to add the parts onto (VZ61, M16A1) 2. Parts kits with semi auto bolt and 80% receiver support that require basic dremel/drill/filing and welding, but no other significant tooling (Sten, PPS-43) 3. Parts kits that have lots of semi auto support and/or 80% receivers, but require more tooling (jigs, lathe, presses, etc...) and/or more substantial welding (AK, FAL, G3) 4. Parts kits with basically no aftermarket semi auto support, require you to weld or manufacture your own receiver from scratch, and also require you to convert your own bolt and FCG to semi auto only. (These kits)

Although there isn't any aftermarket support currently for these with the massive wave of kits coming in hopefully someone like Indianapolis Ordnance will be making tubes and semi auto bolts soon enough.

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CallsignFlorida@reddit

God damnit. I was waiting to hear back on how much these suck to build.

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DrNinjaPandaManEsq@reddit

I was doing some research last night and apparently the answer is “a lot”. Nobody makes receivers, the kits are sometimes missing various small parts and there’s often a bit of welding and dremel work involved.

Which is a shame because these things are dope, wish they were as easy as the vz61 kits.

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