CFI CHECKRIDE ENDORSEMENT
Posted by Such-Country5326@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 20 comments
Hoping to get some clarification from others that have experienced something similar.
I failed my initial CFI checkride and am within my 60 days to retest. My original instructor that signed me off has taken a new job and is no longer instructing. My new CFI that is looking to sign me off is a little confused about the endorsement needed. If anyone has experienced this we just want to make sure there is no additional endorsement needed. From our understanding the only endorsement would be: retest, review of deficiencies, 3 hours in the past 60 days.
makgross@reddit
Review ALL your endorsements to make sure they are still true.
Double check and triple check your work.
Do not screw up endorsements. Examiners have little tolerance for instructor applicants blowing that, as it’s a very basic part of the job, and gets very expensive for the applicant when you get it wrong.
Normally, that’s an instructor fail. But in this case, YOU are the instructor (or at least you’re telling the examiner you want to be).
So, YOU read AC 61-65, and Part 61, and figure it out. I can’t emphasize enough how important it is for an instructor applicant to get that down.
Such-Country5326@reddit (OP)
I appreciate the help. I’ve got 61-65 printed and highlighted for the checkride. Fortunately it was passed on the original oral but doesn’t mean a question can’t lead me down the rabbit hole. The only confusion was about the training coming from a different CFI and that it would ‘void’ any previous endorsements. Neither of us believed it would but just wanted reassurance before being done before the start. Thank you again for your comment though!
makgross@reddit
Endorsements are not a rabbit hole. They are an important part of the job you’re trying to qualify for.
And I don’t believe you didn’t get an endorsement scenario. Thats nearly universal, and a required task on the ACS (AI.II.K.S1). Unless you failed before you got there.
Such-Country5326@reddit (OP)
Wrong verbiage used. That technical subject was met satisfactory.
DefundTheHOA_@reddit
61.49 and another 61.39
But really… you’re a CFI applicant and don’t know where to find this info?
run264fun@reddit
Reddit apparently. Everything is in AC 61.65K
DefundTheHOA_@reddit
It’s honestly mind boggling about the amount of spoon feeding people need. And OPs 2nd CFI should be ashamed they don’t know basic endorsements. I haven’t even taught for over 6 years
LikenSlayer@reddit
Just wait until OP is actually a CFI, they will then come back, yet once again. To get spoon fed. If only DPE's had access to their Reddit profile 🙃
EliteEthos@reddit
Correct. We aren’t helping OP my answering him.
Such-Country5326@reddit (OP)
I asked a question for confirmation. My original CFI, new CFI and I all reviewed and came to the same conclusion. It was a simple question for confirmation so I don’t pay for a retest and can’t even start because something as simple as endorsements. And no endorsements were passed on the original oral.
I can tell you’ll struggle to be someone anyone looks to help for in aviation. Have a good day man
DefundTheHOA_@reddit
Bro you’re the one struggling. You just failed a checkride and won’t even tell us why.
EliteEthos@reddit
Lol. One of us is actually a CFI. One of us isn’t.
I’ve helped more people with than you… but I don’t give instruction on Reddit, man.
Good luck though. You’re doing great so far.
Such-Country5326@reddit (OP)
Just because you’re a CFI doesn’t mean people automatically feel comfortable looking to you for help. Any basic human would understand that. It was a simple ease of mind question that obviously struck a chord with you.
Sleepy_Pylote@reddit
But! But! The regs are hard to read! And an advisory circular?? No way I’m looking at that! /s
DefundTheHOA_@reddit
The best part is OP asks a question like this and then won’t comment on their own post
EliteEthos@reddit
This is precisely why I hate to give instruction in this sub. Questions like this shouldn’t be a thing here.
He has a CFI that doesn’t know endorsements or where to find them and as a CFI student, also can’t find it. I wonder what else OP failed on.
I’m not sure we should be giving these to the requisite information. Unfortunately too many people are eager to drop the info even though OP likely won’t interact with this post again.
LikenSlayer@reddit
What if the DPE ask the same question on checkride day? The amount of questions hes gonna be asked on what endorsements are needed & what makes a student legal to fly/solo. Is gonna take him for a ride. Thats literally the bread & butter.
bhalter80@reddit
If the CFI signing you off isn't experienced enough or under enough supervision to get it right you need a different CFI. This is the rating that's no joke from an exam standpoint. You need someone well versed in it, find someone else now
EliteEthos@reddit
Your new CFI is confused about the required endorsement? !
rFlyingTower@reddit
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Hoping to get some clarification from others that have experienced something similar.
I failed my initial CFI checkride and am within my 60 days to retest. My original instructor that signed me off has taken a new job and is no longer instructing. My new CFI that is looking to sign me off is a little confused about the endorsement needed. If anyone has experienced this we just want to make sure there is no additional endorsement needed. From our understanding the only endorsement would be: retest, review of deficiencies, 3 hours in the past 60 days.
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