Well, for starters there is a massive ideological difference in the form of government. The CSA was all about getting the government out of your life (as long as you are white). The Nazis were all about getting as much government in everyones lives as possible (which was designed to be good if you were white and bad if you were not). Idk if southern people, as a southerner, would have liked totalitarian regimes no matter their view on race. Also, more than likely, slavery would have been banned at some point in a modern CSA (potentially as soon as 1900) with the advent of the cotton gin. It is not impossible to imagine that even if the CSA were racist (it surely would be) that they would not go as far as condoning mass genocide (particularly by the 1940's). Lastly, if the CSA were lucky enough to win the civil war, why would they risk that triumph by going back to ward at the behest of a European government? Particularly when none of the fractured German states nor Italy helped them out when they needed it? More likely, the CSA would have remained a neutral party.
>The CSA was all about getting the government out of your life (as long as you are white)
It really wasn't. They said that, and people like to say it now, but the exigencies of war rapidly pushed it toward an authoritarian government. Jefferson Davis centralized control over states' economies, imposed taxes, had a conscripted army, and took private property to further the war effort.
Thats because they were in a state of war basically their entire existence. There is a difference between authoritarianism during a time of war and authoritarianism that continues after that war has ended. I would be surprised if JD himself wouldnt be deposed shortly after a victory as things got back to "normal."
Guess which of the United States or Confederacy had a constitutional provision forbidding states from choosing to end slavery.
Every person who has claimed they were pro-“small government” is a bald faced liar. The type to want a government so small it’ll fit in your underwear and govern there too.
Would probably depend on their relations with the Union. I doubt they'd form an alliance with Germany purely on racism (not a moral defense of them, that's just really weak grounds for an alliance) but if they're still hostile with the US and the US is with the allies then possibly.
Most of the "Irish ain't white" stuff was old by 1860 but definitely present in the 1700s. And they still didn't really have favorable views of other Europeans. Italians, Poles, Slavs, Germans, Swedes, Hispanics, they all were essentially not White a.k.a Anglo enough.
My grandpa had a newspaper from the day he was born in the 1920s. The classifieds had a job section for whites, coloreds, and the Irish. The Irish were never treated as badly as Blacks or Native Americans in this country but they weren’t considered fully white either.
Public schools in the US dont teach that white people(Irish, Scottish) were also slaves in the US. Mostly to other white people but even to some black slave owners. Wonder why.
It doesn't fit the narrative that slavery was a sin unique to white people and inflicted upon Africans. Once you point out that everybody enslaved everybody else, the ideas of Reparations and White Guilt lose a lot of their coherency.
We will have equal rights for all. Except Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, Gays, women, Muslims. Uhmm... Everybody who's not a white man. And I mean white-white, so no Italians, no Polish, just people from Ireland, England, and Scotland. But only certain parts of Scotland and Ireland. Just full blooded whites. No, you know what? Not even whites. Nobody gets any rights. Ahhh... America!
After the war, we should have just enslaved all the confederates and given them and all their plantations and property to all their former slaves for them to run. It would have been beautiful. All the traitorous scum would have eventually died out in the fields picking cotton as old, bent-backed, whip-scarred, husks of their former selves, all dignity gone, watching free black people lounging in their (former) beautiful plantation homes, sipping mint juleps and playing cards.
Hermann Göring? Despite the fact that the Confederacy wouldn't possibly know what an airplane is, I would still bet good money that they would win the air war.
Okamana@reddit
Anne Frank wasn’t pregnant
Distantstallion@reddit
It gets lonely in the attic
thr33beggars@reddit
She is in Anne Frank’s Diary Pt. 2
Alive_Ice7937@reddit
Third Reich Bugaloo
MetaCommando@reddit
Anne Frank will return in America: Civil War
Chomps-Lewis@reddit
I have trouble imagining an independent CSA not falling for an alliance with the Axis in WW2.
No-Sector-933@reddit
Well, for starters there is a massive ideological difference in the form of government. The CSA was all about getting the government out of your life (as long as you are white). The Nazis were all about getting as much government in everyones lives as possible (which was designed to be good if you were white and bad if you were not). Idk if southern people, as a southerner, would have liked totalitarian regimes no matter their view on race. Also, more than likely, slavery would have been banned at some point in a modern CSA (potentially as soon as 1900) with the advent of the cotton gin. It is not impossible to imagine that even if the CSA were racist (it surely would be) that they would not go as far as condoning mass genocide (particularly by the 1940's). Lastly, if the CSA were lucky enough to win the civil war, why would they risk that triumph by going back to ward at the behest of a European government? Particularly when none of the fractured German states nor Italy helped them out when they needed it? More likely, the CSA would have remained a neutral party.
Jiveturtle@reddit
>The CSA was all about getting the government out of your life (as long as you are white)
It really wasn't. They said that, and people like to say it now, but the exigencies of war rapidly pushed it toward an authoritarian government. Jefferson Davis centralized control over states' economies, imposed taxes, had a conscripted army, and took private property to further the war effort.
No-Sector-933@reddit
Thats because they were in a state of war basically their entire existence. There is a difference between authoritarianism during a time of war and authoritarianism that continues after that war has ended. I would be surprised if JD himself wouldnt be deposed shortly after a victory as things got back to "normal."
The_Knife_Pie@reddit
Guess which of the United States or Confederacy had a constitutional provision forbidding states from choosing to end slavery.
Every person who has claimed they were pro-“small government” is a bald faced liar. The type to want a government so small it’ll fit in your underwear and govern there too.
Malvastor@reddit
Would probably depend on their relations with the Union. I doubt they'd form an alliance with Germany purely on racism (not a moral defense of them, that's just really weak grounds for an alliance) but if they're still hostile with the US and the US is with the allies then possibly.
Subjugatealllife@reddit
Wait until you learn who instigated the civil war.
fridge13@reddit
Americans pretending they were involved in ww2 in a meaningfull capacity.. the realest LARP
stinky-cunt@reddit
Oh God, you’re not one of those who think the Soviet’s won it did you
MonkeManWPG@reddit
"She's not white."
"Oh I see. Y'all carry on then. Good day sirs!"
The_Noremac42@reddit
Back in the day when even the whitest people (like the Irish) weren't considered white.
Mesarthim1349@reddit
They were. The Union and Confederacy both had Irish regiments. Most of the "irish ain't white stuff" came from random racist writers
bnipples@reddit
Most of the "Irish aint white" stuff came from prolific leftist maker-of-shit-up Noel Ignatiev
The_Shittiest_Meme@reddit
Most of the "Irish ain't white" stuff was old by 1860 but definitely present in the 1700s. And they still didn't really have favorable views of other Europeans. Italians, Poles, Slavs, Germans, Swedes, Hispanics, they all were essentially not White a.k.a Anglo enough.
Brave_Championship17@reddit
dumb ass Americans got a piece of land for the first time in their lives and immediately switched up on everyone else 💔
The_Shittiest_Meme@reddit
No this is just regular European behavior. The idea of Pan-European white nationalism is very recent overall.
DEEP_SEA_MAX@reddit
My grandpa had a newspaper from the day he was born in the 1920s. The classifieds had a job section for whites, coloreds, and the Irish. The Irish were never treated as badly as Blacks or Native Americans in this country but they weren’t considered fully white either.
DEEP_SEA_MAX@reddit
The Klan literally first started to attack Irish Catholics.
Dr_Philmon@reddit
Rare clan L
Brave_Championship17@reddit
rare klan W?
JustDontBeFat_GodDam@reddit
Public schools in the US dont teach that white people(Irish, Scottish) were also slaves in the US. Mostly to other white people but even to some black slave owners. Wonder why.
The_Noremac42@reddit
It doesn't fit the narrative that slavery was a sin unique to white people and inflicted upon Africans. Once you point out that everybody enslaved everybody else, the ideas of Reparations and White Guilt lose a lot of their coherency.
Live_Carpenter_1262@reddit
Nah the Irish were white, their Irishness was the problem.
Reading_username@reddit
I_Suck_At_This_Too@reddit
Malvastor@reddit
The Confederates actually did have a Jewish senator. Don't know how that translated to their views on Jews in general.
jaytee1262@reddit
Fin
GatalingLaserBeams@reddit
https://i.redd.it/zyf69rjprlwg1.gif
NomadicScribe@reddit
Oh yeah? Well we don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly.
House_Of_Doubt@reddit
Now, skeeter, we don’t want no trouble
richtofin819@reddit
"You there, beautiful woman, we don't take kindly to your type around here"
"aw skeeter, shut the hell up"
Tokarev490@reddit
Pregnant?
wikid24@reddit
Pregananant
AkiraDash@reddit
Holy-Wan_Kenobi@reddit
What in the goddammn...
Happy_Ocelot_4945@reddit
Based af.
Your_Drunk_Unc10@reddit
This is how they actually see themselves
Spice002@reddit
Part of anon's larp is that he gets to have sex with an impregnate Anne Frank.
Ditnoka@reddit
It's his fanfic.
TooApatheticToHateU@reddit
After the war, we should have just enslaved all the confederates and given them and all their plantations and property to all their former slaves for them to run. It would have been beautiful. All the traitorous scum would have eventually died out in the fields picking cotton as old, bent-backed, whip-scarred, husks of their former selves, all dignity gone, watching free black people lounging in their (former) beautiful plantation homes, sipping mint juleps and playing cards.
Beefaroni117@reddit
I imagine you think the Treaty of Versailles was an awesome agreement in history.
WhateverWhateverson@reddit
Oh Christ it's this fucking guy
Reading_username@reddit
KingPhilipIII@reddit
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Spam ERB’s inbox with that as the subject line and any material you can come up with.
undreamedgore@reddit
Lee's Raps have to have a slower, rhythmic bur enuncuated tone.
Starting with a respectful tone, but thr more Goring speaks the more disdainful it gets.
With Grant and some WW2 General showing up, and tearing both apart.
RM97800@reddit
Hermann Göring? Despite the fact that the Confederacy wouldn't possibly know what an airplane is, I would still bet good money that they would win the air war.
nonanumatic@reddit
Can't lose any planes if you never had any in the first place
Malvastor@reddit
Pickett cavalry charging an airfield probably couldn't turn out worse than the stuff he actually charged.
Biggu5Dicku5@reddit
gishgudi@reddit
Judah P Benjamin was a Jewish lawyer who was secretary of state for the Confederacy. He was well liked by Jefferson Davis. So this is plausible.
Judah_Earl@reddit
Plus today the south is the homeland of christian zionism.
Ailosiam@reddit
Not the larp I expected to learn about today
Darwin_Finch@reddit
Goon with the wind
FlailingScrotum@reddit
Man, southerners really can't accept that in every way, they were on the wrong side of history.
ExcitableSarcasm@reddit
CONFEDERATE PREGNANT ANNE FRANK
No, I will not elaborate. True ball knowledge havers will know
ThrowawayITA_@reddit
A WWII soldier with traditional clothes and equipment according to the Internet: