Do you anyone who experienced the Great Smog of London 1952? What did they the told you about the event?
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I am really curious about firsthand (I know it happened 70 years ago but maybe there is someone) or secondhand experiences of this event.
Hollyhop_Drive@reddit
The book 'Call the Midwife' contains her memories of the smog you would get in London. First hand account.
Plastic_Length8618@reddit
My mum got pnumonia from it and had to stay in hospital.
rictay44@reddit
I experienced it first hand as a child. We'd gone to Teddington to see an aunt. The smog descended on our way back. So bad, the bus driver called a halt near Clapham Junction. We got a train to Victoria (I think) then a train to our home in South London.
Train crawled along. The smog was getting so dense. When we eventually reached our home station, visibility was only about 6 feet. 6 FEET VISIBILITY. It was terrifying. I really thought we wouldn't find our house. The air was choking. We walked along the street to home with hands on the hedges and railings for guidance.
Even when we reached home, that stench was inside our house. I remember not being able to sleep because of that rotten air. Both my parents were smokers, and I heard them coughing all night long. My sister was only 4 and I remember her crying throughout the night.
The memory of all this still brings tears to my eyes. Horrendous experience.
NoIndependent9192@reddit
My late stepfather said that you couldn’t see your hand in front of your face. They called them pea soupers for a reason.
DisastrousCanary3073@reddit
My mum says she couldn't see where she was going, but could make out the next lamppost, so she went from lamppost to lamppost. Also, it wasn't grey, it was kind of yellow.
catmadwoman@reddit
I remember not being able to see my hand held up. My breathing was very bad. I was 7 and already had had pneumonia twice. But there were many smogs but that one was bad.
loud-spider@reddit
There was a decent Channel 5 show about it that's worth catching.
ThePodd222@reddit
Yes, my late mum was 9 in 1952 and her family had recently moved to a new house in the Enfield area. She was walking home from school but the smog was so bad she couldn't see where she was going and being unfamiliar with the route couldn't find her way back home. Her dad went out looking for her and bumped into her by chance.
smudgethomas@reddit
My grandparents lived in London at the time.
I did watch that episode of the Crown and asked about it.
"Which one?" Was the reply.
The problem is that The Crown makes it seem like a one-off, whereas it was the most long-lasting of something that was a pretty normal part of life at the time. For example, On the railways they have "detonators"- explosive caps you lay on the rails to go off when a train is approaching a signal at red when you can't see it. The smogs were such a problem the railways had a fog timetable and mechanical equipment to place the detonators at each signal rather than needing men stood by each one. You can still see fog repeaters on the underground but they're not needed the same way now, when you couldn't see the top of the posts at the bottom the repeaters were essential.
My grandmother would go to work on "the jazz" service into Liverpool St. When she came home she listened for the tap of a blind man's cane at the station. There was a home for them at the top of her street so she would ask the blind man to walk her home as you'd struggle to see your feet in the worst smogs. To the blind it was just another day! She also remembered housewives putting tealight candles on the front walls (railings all removed during the war) to try and help people see.
My grandfather remembered trying to keep it out of the house was the worst, and needing to keep lights on all day.
The mitigations of course meant more burning coal and other fuels so it made it worse but there weren't a lot of options. People knew it was dangerous but they also knew they needed heat, light and transport. All of which used coal. The switch to smokeless fuels, natural gas, non-coal electricity generation and so on all helped bring the old pea-soupers to an end.
Choice-Demand-3884@reddit
Really fascinating stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Do you know why it was called the "Jazz service"?
smudgethomas@reddit
Yes. The Great Eastern Railway had no money for electrification, so to improve their suburban service they did Everything possible to improve the service with steam. "The most intensive steam worked suburban service in the world" was nicknamed "the Jazz" because the coaches were painted with Jazzy colours in broad stripes along the top so you could tell which class was which and which were ladies' only coaches.
This article; this one ; and you can buy models of them ready made now. - I am a railway buff and this is one of my favourite topics, it was such an ingenious way of making the most of what they had!
Choice-Demand-3884@reddit
Wow, tremendous. Thanks!
VisibleOtter@reddit
I remember my dad saying that one night during the Great Smog he was walking home from work, and he got lost. He worked about half a mile away from home. It was literally turn right out of our house, turn left then turn right. He still managed to get lost and had to knock at various houses and ask where he was.
660trail@reddit
My father had a motorbike. He told me that one night, trying to get home from work, he had to try and almost feel his way along the road with one foot on the kerbstone. He said he couldn't see the front of his wheel.
HampshireTurtle@reddit
Not that smog but the last one (1962 I think) - aside from the not being able to see etc, it stained your underwear, so a load of female students took this as the chance to buy black underwear (this was considered vaguely scandalous at the time by some of them).
shortercrust@reddit
I’m too young to know first hand but I know the public was well informed about the causes and it was a big political scandal at the time. It was widely reported that freak weather conditions were trapping the domestic and industrial smoke.
Hour_Course_9876@reddit
Got to love the fact that the authorities wanted to come clean about it whe the air wasn’t
repair-it@reddit
I remember some of the 1950's smogs, they were incredible, you just couldn't see very much at all.
CraigL8@reddit
Watched an episode of The Crosn recently which was about the fog situation and Queen and Winston’s reactions to it. Killed upto 12,000 people in the end didn’t it? Can only imagine if the circumstances were replicated now it’d be catastrophic.
yesbutnobutokay@reddit
My sister was one year old and had chronic asthma and the symptoms were more considerably more severe in the fog. We lived in London and the doctor told us that the only cure was to move to the seaside, which we did.
Thereafter, her condition improved.
DameKumquat@reddit
My dad experienced some smogs just after that.
You'd be walking around near Tottenham Court Road and it became impossible to see your hand in front of your face, so basically you'd carefully fumble to the nearest pub and stay there until it lifted.
Even in the late 70s we got some heavy smoggy fogs round November with all the wood fires and such. I remember going to a friend's house after school with her mum and little sister, and we all had to hold hands walking down their road single file, trying to find their detached house. Took forever.
bradpitt3@reddit
My mum says it was frightening and filthy. She tells of following the edge of the pavement to keep track of where you were trying to get home from the tube station, but getting lost whilst crossing the road.
She said the fog was dirty and stained your clothes and even your curtains if you left windows open.
Aceleeds@reddit
My mum told me they would shut and lock the door and they would see the smog coming in to the kitchen through the keyhole. They could smell it - it was that bad.
Confudled_Contractor@reddit
No I died of suffocation.
nick9000@reddit
There's a doctor talking about it in this video
Doomergeneration@reddit
Pea soup
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