Driving new cars doesn’t hit the same anymore
Posted by No_Perception_7974@reddit | Autos | View on Reddit | 52 comments
I recently picked up a 2025 e350, mostly because it made sense at this point in life. More space and comfort, something that works for day to day and family stuff and it's an easier car for my wife to drive. On paper it’s perfect. It's loaded with tech, big infotainment screen, everything is digital and polished. The gear changes are almost unnoticeable and the cabin is so insulated you barely hear the engine at all. But after a few weeks of driving it, It just didn't hit anymore.
I ended up getting back into a 2016 e300 I had access through work, just a clean older benz, and I realized what was wrong. The engine had actual character, like an actual soul, you could hear the turbo spool and feel the torque come in instead of everything being flattened out. The throttle response felt more direct, not filtered through layers of mapping and comfort tuning. The transmission didn’t try to hide itself, you feel the shifts and it gave the car rhythm instead of just a constant smooth pull. The steering had more feedback, although it felt heavier, you actually felt more badass I guess and don't get me started on all the plastic covered interior. The newer car feels like everything is engineered to remove sensation, like it’s chasing refinement over engagement.
I get why cars are going this direction and I get why I bought it, but it’s weird realizing that something that’s technically worse makes me enjoy driving more.
boondoggie42@reddit
First paragraph I thought you were talking about a Ford van, LOL.
Serious_Lettuce6716@reddit
Same!
copinglemon@reddit
Something is off about the tone, so nonchalantly speaking about purely practical reasons for buying an expensive luxury car that few people would even consider for such uses.
cshmn@reddit
I mean, a Mercedes E class is just the Toyota Camry of luxury cars. Especially with the V6, it's just a German taxi or rental car. For everyone a tax bracket or 2 above middle class, it is just a practical everyday appliance car.
ProfessionalBread176@reddit
Same. And the description seemed to fit too
mmpjd@reddit
Yep..same here and then I realized Ford doesn’t manufacture e-series vans anymore.
DriftCobra@reddit
They only make the E Series cutaway, but longer E Series passenger vans unfortunately
dth1717@reddit
I was like " holy shit, that's a huge truck what's he want a racquet ball court in the back seat?"
FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit
You aint alone, halfway through the first paragraph i recoiled and wondered what kind of bullshit this guy was smoking. Totally forgot Mercedes existed for a second.
RocketeerPT@reddit
I agree. At 40 yo I realized the only cars that put a smile on my face driving them are pre 2006 Sporty cars.
I was driving recent cars, and I just have it. They all feel numb and heavy.
Last month I bought a 90’s japanese shitbox, a Mazda mx3 V6.
Its just so fun, and the engine sounds great. So much better than all of the shit I have been driving this year
unpolire@reddit
It’s the continuous refinement that is creating 200 mph insulated lounges that can do everything, including drive themselves. I call my newest cars “the rentals” because they are reliable and efficient safety cars that are faster and quicker than the classic and vintage cars. In a big hurry, the new cars. For a fun trip, my older AMG and M-100 cars make me marvel and smile at Mercedes-Benz design and engineering. The older they get, the bigger the smiles.
Born4Nothin@reddit
You bought a luxury car bro. What did you expect? If you need a modern big comfortable sedan that is also fun to drive, get a hemi charger lol
xoStardustt@reddit
Or blacking
intertubeluber@reddit
Related pro-tip - many dealers have started allowing test driving vehicles before buying.
jdzzy@reddit
Shhhh, don't tell them!
Bonafideago@reddit
Yeah. I just bought a brand new Honda Odyssey. It's nice, it's refined, it's nothing like the rwd fun cars from my youth. But it's definitely got road feel, you can feel the transmission shifting, it doesn't feel disconnected from the road or anything like that.
I would expect a new Mercedes to drive a whole hell of a lot different.
1864Fox@reddit
A car from 2016 is an old car for you?
You make me feel old, and I'm not even 25 yet.
But yeah of course, sound dampening, ride quality, all of that just gets better with time. Because that's what most people want. If you want to have fun driving just because driving a car is fun to you, then you need to drive an old car.
Less sound dampening, fewer electronic helpers, no screens, worse ride quality.. less safety too, sure.
I like modern cars for all the features they have and comfort they give while commuting every day, but man, nothing is better than driving my 1987 924S down some windy rural road. Windows down, Hard Rock loud. No new car can come close.
L44KSO@reddit
We talk about a 2016 Merc like a car with a soul? We need to get many decades back to get that.
birdseye-maple@reddit
2014 last year of the w204 c63 has plenty of soul. Hydraulic steering, NA V8
L44KSO@reddit
But as much as a 1954 Citroen TA? I doubt it.
Extension-Silver1217@reddit
Same, thought you were talking about a Chrysler for a second. Mercedes-Benz? Shocked, but not surprised.
meesersloth@reddit
So I have a 2022 F250 and a 2001 F150. I find driving my 01 more fun than my 22. Less screens, the green from the dash lights. My F250 feels like I’m stepping into the cockpit of a 747.
_clever_reference_@reddit
ngl that sounds terrible
nickel_slick@reddit
"on paper it's perfect" lmao I want was he's smoking
nickel_slick@reddit
"on paper it's perfect" lists nothing but cons
I cannot take this post seriously. Starting out by saying you're buying a Benz as a family car, then upset it's not sporty enough. Duh, it's not a sports car. It's a luxury car.
But THEN talking about a 10 year old Benz like it's some sort of classic... It just doesn't make sense.
This reminds me of a post the other day of a guy that bought a rav4 and was asking how to get more power out of it. You don't, you figure out what you want and then buy it, not buy it then see if you can turn it into what you want. Cars are made for a specific purpose and that purpose is rarely to be exciting.
Saying driving new cars doesn't hit the same is ingenuine when you're talking about it this way. That's like saying new cars don't hit because the new camry is boring. Drive a new Supra and tell me new cars don't hit.
PurpleSausage77@reddit
Love my ‘14 Model S-85 and my ‘13 GT-86, totally different driving experiences, never get tired of driving with these cars, and working on them isn’t bad either.
OccamsMallet@reddit
I bought the last of the Aussie V8s ... Commodore SSV Redline wagon. All dark grey. The sedan version was sold in the US as a Chevy SS. It feels like a muscle car of old but still refined. Great roar as you take off and wonderful on long highway trips. I might look at a second car when full self-driving is readily available to take me to the pub and back.
s4ltydog@reddit
Picked up my VB WRX last fall and I went with a gently used model, I’m fucking done. I love this car. I do t give two shits if I don’t have ventilated seats, a heater steering wheel etc…. For me at 43 it’s got just the right amount of personality and performance and comfort. I prefer cloth seats and I’m the only one who drives it so I dont need memory settings or anything. Add to that the plethora of aftermarket support? I’m fucking set.
nochinzilch@reddit
Yeah, I have to agree. The engine management systems are just slower feeling. You punch the gas and the computer responds with "lemme check and see".
GrynaiTaip@reddit
Rougher gear changes and less sound insulation is soul? I don't think I agree.
I occasionally drive a VW e-Up. It's electric so no gear changes and it's so quiet that I can hear what's on the radio in other cars around me. And yet it's super fun, very light and nimble, it's a joy to drive in a busy city.
D4ng3rd4n@reddit
This is the most Luke warm take I've seen in a while
kingtuft@reddit
I’ve been going backwards… of my 3 vehicle fleet, the most recent purchase was a 2008 957 Turbo.
If I never purchase anything produced post-COVID era, I think I’d be fine with that.
insanecorgiposse@reddit
I daily drive a 1967 series land rover for the same reason.
Mr_IsLand@reddit
I think that's all a big reason why manual transmissions have largely died out - new cars are so quiet and insulated you can neither hear nor feel the engine and it actually makes smooth starts much more difficult than an older analog car.
Jolrit@reddit
Doesn’t your Merc have different driving modes?
generalright@reddit
I think when cars mean something to you, you have to buy an older one you like. New cars are really just appliances no matter the price point. An old car you can take care of and customize is the sweet spot.
Use_Your_Brain_Dude@reddit
I had the option of fixing a pathfinder, buying a newer car, or putting a new engine and transmission in my 2000 MR2. Overhauled the MR2... 200hp, 30+ mpg. Best decision I've ever made. Absolutely 0 features and comforts. Love it.
generalright@reddit
That’s awesome man. I bought a new car recently and it is nice and comfortable but just isn’t hitting the spot.
too_much_covfefe_man@reddit
I have a 25 Miata and they paid attention to how awesome it is to drive, because it's awesome to drive. Turning off infotainment is max 2 button interactions.
Other than that I generally agree. My other 2 cars are a 09 Pontiac and a 85 Mazda. Pre-bankrupt GM Holden made em different than they do now, and 85 was the last call for the old paradigm with Mazda but the whole "take care of" bit is harder and harder.
sideways8@reddit
Anyone else feeling ai vibe?
MechMeister@reddit
TL;DR Mercedes enthusiast slowly realizing that Mercedes makes shitty cars
Dirftboat95@reddit
doesn’t hit the same anymore, Payments hit BIG though
Valisksyer@reddit
Analog or digital car, I’ll take analog every time.
e36@reddit
I know what you're trying to say, because that stuff can be fun. But part of this is also conditioning. Imagine that we had electric vehicles first and ten years ago gas cars showed up. Who is going to buy a car that's noisy with this crazy complex engine that has parts moving every which way? With unpredictable power delivery and such an inefficient powerband that you needed this whole other thing that made the car jerk when changing gears? And if you tried to warm the car up in the garage you died?
FWD_to_twin_turbo@reddit
When you put it that way there is indeed a point to be made. That'd be as ridiculous as somone inventing triangular pistons. ...
stoned-autistic-dude@reddit
Dorito intensifies
boundone@reddit
Weirdly enough, there were a few electric cars very early on in the birth of the automobile. Batteries REALLY sucked back then, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_electric_vehicle
First was 1827!
e36@reddit
Yeah, that's true, and just imagine how different (arguably better) things would be if they had been adopted over internal combustion.
Dolstruvon@reddit
Crazy to call a 2016 car old. I've never had anything newer than 20 years, and my current daily driver is a 36 year old Patrol Y60. And that's because I totally agree that newer cars are as exciting as a new toaster, no matter how sporty. The definition of modern comfort in a car seems to be to disconnect the driver as much as possible from the road. You basically just point the car in a direction and there it goes. Might as well be a passenger.
I love having to work a gear change feeling every single part in the gearbox click into place, rev match for a smooth shift, and practicing heel and toeing while downshifting in corners. Also got a boost gauge recently so I'm more aware of the input that powers the ancient mechanical 6 cylinder with 120hp to pull the 2 ton heavy duty truck forward
maxlax02@reddit
My friend, not all Autos have 4 wheels.
The missing feeling you’re describing is still very much alive in new vehicles - particularly motorcycles.
The downside is they’re dangerous.
The upside is they’re cheap (relatively).
$5k will get you a bike more fun than any car on the road.
Minimum-Function1312@reddit
The car is designed to do exactly what you thought you wanted, then you changed your mind. You should have gotten something more sporty.
I_amnotanonion@reddit
I think it depends on what you’re looking for. In your case, a brand new Merc is going to be really isolated even compared to 10 years ago. When I drove 50k+ miles yearly for work, I would’ve killed for that. Power, comfort, and peace. Instead I had a base model ford fusion which was fine but got uncomfortable and didn’t have the best seats.
I get what you’re talking about though. I enjoy some engagement for normal drives. Some exhaust notes, some character. Many newer cars lack it for better or worse. It makes driving my W123 Merc and Jellybean Ford F250 fun