Jeep’s 2.0-Liter Engine Replacement Came With Its Own Recall

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BisquickNinja@reddit

It's a Jeep thing.... You wouldn't understand....

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JustBeinOptimistic@reddit

Ducks are the septum piercing of the Jeep world

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JustBeinOptimistic@reddit

No I didn’t. One is hidden, one is displayed

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arcelyte@reddit

I think jeep owners should get My little pony figures for the Bronco people so they don't feel left out. Bronco Bronies!...needs to be a thing!

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Pacifist_Socialist@reddit

lol

Unrelated but after having a jl rubi wrangler for 50k miles I think I would have preferred a 2 door bronco wildtrak. Jeep really missed out with keeping Mojave trim on just the gladiator imo

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5 whys approach to problem solving: - Why is there sand in the engine? - Why is there sand in the engine? - Why is there sand in the engine? - Why is there sand in the engine? - Why is there sand in the engine?

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Seeker80@reddit

Ah, I didn't know what was in those hybrids. Not the Hurricane 2L either, something older.

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Any_Journalist_4887@reddit

NO CAR LIKE MOPAR

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Deadpools_sweaty_leg@reddit

I think the other manufacturers have taken notes from Stellantis. Beginning of the article “This puts them in a three-way tie with GM and Toyota for having 11 recalls this year.”

Not looking good for us new car buyers, especially when Toyota is lumped in with GM and Jeep.

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ElegantBiscuit@reddit

Toyota spent a decade building up a reputation of reliability, and they did it in the most lazy way possible - by changing as little as possible on models that ended up pushing 15 years old. There is no special sauce or secret to mass manufacturing, except for the fact that any recalls from factory defects in the production line were squashed 12 years earlier. But that means millions of people paid above the market rate of competitors for vehicles with 5 speed transmissions paired to engines with the fuel economy of a V12 and the power of a 4 cylinder into the 2020s. But it worked, because that was a tradeoff that made sense to people and they loved them for it.

But when covid hit, manufacturers took the down time to push their upgrades and it would be way more embarrassing than it already was trying to push the specs they were at the prices they were charging, especially on the truck side. So they had to upgrade too, and your two engine options these days are 4 cylinder turbo hybrids that are high strung and pushed hard just to get average fuel economy but with terrible range from a small gas tank, or V6s that explode and which they are in the process of replacing 125k units of. But they had to refresh everything so that also includes recalls for 280k transmissions, 55k hybrid systems, 1M backup cameras, 591k instrument panels....

So the reputation advantage of time that they relied on is not there, yet the prices are still high because people still believe in that reputation without knowing exactly why. Just that it was good then, so therefore it must be good now, and toyota knows this and they're cashing the fuck in. Their vehicles are at a minimum 10% more expensive than comparable specs from other brands, yet they still nickel and time you on the app at $15/mo for basic features that other brands offer for free, and they'll sell you a dingy plastic interior that belongs in a car $15k cheaper at every price segment. Because people will pay. That's why they have +$100B in cash on hand and grew their lead in top global auto sales by brand, while managing to match GM and stellantis on recalls. But give it a few years and toyota will get through this period by not changing anything again for the next decade.

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Shadow5503@reddit

Man, have you ever nailed my thoughts on Toyota.

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AuDHDMDD@reddit

Working in fleet, Toyota is probably the most disappointing make in the recent years for this reason above. But the new Toyotas interior is awful with bad quality. The carpets get destroyed easy, the plastic interior feels on par with a Nissan Versa, the features getting subscription locked is anti consumer, the infotainment sucks, I've had multiple back up cameras start going out, tundras blowing up engines

The surprisingly quick decline of Toyota and the gradual disappointment with Honda should be studied

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Captain_Pink_Pants@reddit

Buying new has been of dubious value for at least the last 50 years... but now it may even be less reliable than buying a 2-3 yo CPO... At least someone has spent some time considering whether the car actually works. Bummer it has to be the first owner or lessee.

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real_fake_hoors@reddit

Must Order Parts, Another Recall

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memymomeddit@reddit

Junk, Each and Every Part

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stoned-autistic-dude@reddit

Similar to Ford: Finding Out Recalls Daily

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Doip@reddit

incredible

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xXNodensXx@reddit

You won't go far with Mopar.

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TheDirtDude117@reddit

Ford and Jeep really are fighting for the most recalled vehicles.

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THE_NibbleDev@reddit

Ford had 17 separate recall campaigns in Q1 2026 alone, about 7.3 million vehicles total. The biggest single one was 4.3M F-150s, F-250s, Rangers, Mavericks, and Expeditions for a software bug that kills trailer brake and light signals without warning.

At this point this recall pattern is almost its own product category.

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Tuxedo_Muffin@reddit

Toyota enters the chat

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

Yeah, but most of those are because the rear seat adjuster in the Highlander can stop working. It's not really a big deal, and is only a safety recall because it involves the seats. The Tundra engine thing has been sorted.

Ford still reigns supreme at 7.5 million recalls so far this year.

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Training-Expert5598@reddit

Did you seriously block a guy for disagreeing with you? That's about as childish as it gets.

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Tuxedo_Muffin@reddit

The engines are not sorted. They are being replaced.

Except for the hybrid ones which still have the catastrophic issue, but they say "it's okay" because the electric motor can take over. :/

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

The Tundra engine thing is done. It was only around 100,000 vehicles, and most of the engines have been replaced.

There is no engine related open recall for the Prius. The last Prius engine recall was over 10 years ago, and it was related to head gaskets.

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mr_bots@reddit

They recalled about 100,000 22 and some 23 Tundras and LXs saying “our bad, we fixed it, have a long block” then came back in November 25 and recalled 130,000 of the remaining 23 and some 24 Tundras, LXs, and GXs saying “jk, we didn’t fix it but we did now, trust us bro, we’ll let you know in late 25 or early 26 what we’re going to do.” It’s almost May and they haven’t released the remedy for the second recall. In their paperwork submitted to NHTSA they put in writing the hybrids aren’t affected because if an engine on a hybrid catastrophically fails it isn’t a safety issue.

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Shmokesshweed@reddit

It was only around 100,000 vehicles,

Lol. Toyota bros coping.

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deleted_by_reddit@reddit

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

Same engine trouble

There's zero evidence of this at all.

And no, 3.2 million vehicles isn't good. It's embarrassing for Toyota. But if you're going to talk about recalls this year, then don't move goalposts.

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Tuxedo_Muffin@reddit

You think they'd go to the trouble to redesign the i-Force main bearings just for the hybrid? I sincerely doubt it.

The i-Force Max was excluded from recall for undisclosed reasons. Still the same bearings in there. I'm sure the owners minds are out at ease.

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

The bearings weren't the issue, metal shavings left in the oil galleries were, specifically the engines made at the Huntsville Alabama plant.

Man, you really don't know what the hell you're talking about.

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Tuxedo_Muffin@reddit

Okie dokie! All I know how to do is read articles explaining the issues. I'm not invested enough to worry about it anymore.

Take care!

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airfryerfuntime@reddit

All I know how to do is read articles explaining the issues

Apparently you don't.

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TotalPandemonium@reddit

I can still see his replies, bro blocked you lol

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Tuxedo_Muffin@reddit

Oh, okay lol! First time in 9 years that I'm aware of

I've never blocked anyone, so I didn't know that's what it did.

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chilBates@reddit

How many rubber ducklings does this deserve?

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Dark_Force@reddit

What now?

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Wrench78@reddit

Been seeing a lot of those Jeeps with around 2K miles coming in needing a new motor.

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V48runner@reddit

They are just copying the Toyota business model for forced induction engines.

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Wrench78@reddit

If you want to have a car that lasts, don't buy a 2.0 sized engine boosted to hell. It's what I tell people, but it's becoming much harder to find NA engines.

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Skensis@reddit

It's the challenge when people want both power and efficiency.

I feel the correct path is going to be NA 2-2.5L I4 with a hybrid.

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RunnerLuke357@reddit

The correct address path is NA 2.5L 4 cyl without any dumb accoutrements like hybrid systems or forced induction. A good well tuned NA 4 banger can be reasonably powerful and efficient. If you need more power, you need a bigger motor and need to sacrifice some mileage. Huge drivetrain repairs negate any money saved in gas.

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Skensis@reddit

With the consumer desire for decent gas mileage, I don't see it. With a 2.5L NA you're getting like 25-30mpg at best while making 200hp, a 2L hybrid is getting you that power whole giving you another 10-15mpg.

Sure, reliability might offset that efficiency, but generally there isn't much data that hybrids are substantially less reliable then their purely ICE counter parts.

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guilmon999@reddit

I'm pretty sure Toyotas NA hybrids are more reliable than their NA non-hybrids. The eCVT is just so stout and simple compared to a traditional automatic transmission.

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3rdreprieve@reddit

I agree. Toyota has apparently been having problems with their AA80E 8-speed transaxles since 2018ish. I’d take an ES300h from those years over an ES350 for sure.

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3rdreprieve@reddit

You aren’t making any more than 230 horsepower out of an N/A 2.5 in today’s day and age.

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RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit

I think that's just nonsensical, there's plenty of examples of solidly powerful 2.0T engines that get great efficiency and are very powerful.

The K20c, Ea888, and B48 are prime examples of this.

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Skensis@reddit

I don't feel it is?

If you look at 2L turbos, they are getting far worse efficiencies than their NA hybrid counter parts at either 2L or 2.5L. Hybrid cars are just a league of their own in terms of efficiency.

Across the available 2L Ts you are getting an average of 250hp @ 25-30mpg.

For NA hybrids at 2L you are getting 200hp @ 45mpg. For NA hybrids at 2.5L you are getting like 240hp @ 40mpg.

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RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit

You wouldn't compare a turbo to a comparable displacement NA, you'd compare it to a comparable power NA. In general a 2.0T is making better power than most NA V6 engines with better efficiency and a stronger torque curve.

Obviously hybrids are a different deal entirely, but that's not really what's being talked about here is it?

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roman_maverik@reddit

In what universe does a 2.0t make as much horsepower as an NA v6 from the last two decades?

In the last 20 years, we've basically had 3 mainstream popular NA v6 engines, the Honda J35y4, the Pentastar 3.6, and Nissan's VQ37.

All three of these get over 300 horsepower.

What stock 2.0t is getting over 300 HP from the factory? The Civic Type R is kind of cherry picking, and even then it still doesn't make the hp of a Nissan VQ from 20 years ago.

2.0t are great for massive torque and can match v6 numbers. But for hp, theres no comparison.

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RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit

All three of these get over 300 horsepower in even their basic milquetoast forms.

So, for one that's not true. The J35 in most forms is under 300hp, and the y4 is it's highest output variant. The Pentastar V6 is in the same boat, the VQ is only in sports applications. You're excluding V6s from Hyundai, ford, GM, etc just to pick a few.

So, if you stop pretending like you're not cherry picking then most 3.5-3.8l V6 engines in commuter applications were getting around 250-275hp. Most 2.0T engines are doing similar with a better torque curve.

The Civic Type R is kind of cherry picking, and even then it still doesn't make the hp of a Nissan VQ from 20 years ago.

Thje VQ is 330hp, you already named the K20, but also the Ea888 in GolfR/Audi Trims and the B48 in M lite trim both do around this with more torque and are highly reliable, the M139 is doing over 400hp in a production car with very solid reliability (typical MB bullshit surrounding it, but the engine is reliable)

But like, I can see you're out for a fight here - you can play that disingenuous game all day long where you cherry pick some things then pretend like that's fair, I'm not super interested in this. If you look at most cars that had a v6 replaced by a turbo 4 you'll find they're generally putting out the same or more power in like applications and doing so with higher efficiency. But I mean, if you want to sit there and pretend like comparing a VQ to a turbo 4 in a family sedan is the move then be my guest lol.

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roman_maverik@reddit

The Nissan VQ37 was used in every Nissan car (and a CUV) from 2008 onward, not just the sport ones. I think it's perfect to compare to a mainstream turbo 4 in something like a Mazda 6 or something.

Anyway, you make good points. But I think I also make good ones - I just think that NA v6 engines make better power, with less complexity, in similar applications.

By the way, I think you have me confused with other posters. I'm noy trying to fight, I'm just giving a counterpoint. This is the best part about this subreddit

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3rdreprieve@reddit

The VQ37 didn’t end up in a single Nissan that wasn’t a 370Z, and it didn’t end up in a single FWD car, Nissan or Infiniti.

Before you get pedantic and say “Well, Infiniti is Nissan…” 90 percent of Infiniti’s lineup at the time were sporty, RWD sedans and CUVs. Nissan at the exact same time had ONE sporty RWD in their lineup.

Nissan was predominantly using the VQ3_5,_ specifically the DE, which could be had in outputs as low as 235hp and never any more than 300hp.

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mada447@reddit

I'm nitpicking. But Nissan's V6 was more commonly the VQ35. The 37 was used in some Infinitis and the 370z but most Infinitis are now VC turbo where Nissan applications of the VQ remain on the 3.5.

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iamnotcreativeDET@reddit

I’ve seen plenty of boosted 2.0 engines go well over 250k, it just needs decent internals.

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MNAAAAA@reddit

🤨 EA888 has been in use for like 20 years, and is now in everything in some form or another. Plus, K20c, B48...

Generalizations like this are broad enough to be meaningless

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Wrench78@reddit

I didn't say all are bad, although a small handful of good engines doesn't really change the narrative, but my statement was more when I'm asked by the average person that isn't a car person.

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velociraptorfarmer@reddit

laughs in 25 year old 3.8L NA V6 design that will last to the heat death of the universe

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Astramael@reddit

So you mean that 35psi K20C is bad? Huh, interesting. They seem to be lasting fine.

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RIP_Soulja_Slim@reddit

Right? Off the top of my head: K20c, VW Ea888, Ecoboost 2.0, BMW B48, etc.

Everyone talks about the K series, and it's a fantastic engine, but I think the B48 is highly underrated here. It's rated at 255hp but likely closer to 270-280 based on independent testing, has a few higher output variants, but across the board is one of the most reliable engines in production today and it's in everything - base model 3 series, X3, Minis, 5 series, etc.

If BMW can make a mass produced high output 2.0T that's highly reliable then anyone can lol.

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Astramael@reddit

Yea for sure, all good examples. B48 is definitely good.

There’s no inherit problem with a small, heavily boosted engine configuration. It just has to be engineered and constructed properly to meet the requirements.

I’m walking the talk on this one. Got the smallest very heavily boosted engine and I plan to daily it long term. We shall see if I am sad in 10 years, but I think it’ll be fine.

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