Scotty got the shaft treatment on tng
Posted by happydude7422@reddit | TNG | View on Reddit | 78 comments
Posted by happydude7422@reddit | TNG | View on Reddit | 78 comments
JoeyJoeJoeJrShab@reddit
and so they gave the lonely / depressed old man a shuttle craft so he can spend even more time alone
Ok-Bowler-203@reddit
It never made sense to me that an engineering nerd like Geordi would treat an engineering legend like Scotty like dirt.
Lots of love from Laforge for Chuck Yeagar though.
furrykef@reddit
Geordi wasn't treating him like dirt. Geordi needed to work fast to meet his deadline and Scotty was slowing him down. Anyone in Geordi's position might react the same way. Once the two of them were in a situation where Scotty was actually useful, Geordi changed his tune.
Tacitus111@reddit
Geordi also was happy to give him a tour and talk to him about all the technology changes (he directly said so) after his work was done and he met his deadline. He was enthusiastic even. Scotty wouldn’t accept that, because he wanted to be useful. Trouble was, he really wasn’t in most ways, which is the thrust of the episode.
Geordi’s treated like he’s being a dick, but honestly, that’s because we’re seeing from Scotty’s perspective primarily. Scotty wants to be useful right now without acknowledging that 80 odd years have passed.
Scotty also would have been equally frustrated if Trip Tucker showed up and started messing with his engine room, pulling open random compartments and declaring disaster was imminent, all the while he’s trying to finish a big project.
AmishAvenger@reddit
Ok but they definitely made Geordi look like a dick
Malnurtured_Snay@reddit
What line of work are you in?
Imagine you're having a hard day at work and some guy who used to do your job a literal century earlier comes in and is asking you questions about all this modern technology, and he's overhearing conversations with your boss and giving you advice you aren't asking for, and he's making it really really difficult for you to get your work done, and this isn't stuff that can be put aside until the next day. The boss needs an answer. It's not this other older guy's head that's going to roll ... it's yours.
Collateral3@reddit
It wasnt a random guy tho. its kinda like you work at a power plant and nicola tesla shows up. your boss and everyone else will understand if he slows you down, but you explain everything to him anyway.
Malnurtured_Snay@reddit
Alas, Geordi's not a Star Trek fan. Also, Zephram Cochrane would be a better allegory for Nicola Tesla. Scotty's, at best, Edison.
Kaurifish@reddit
Kipling wrote a poem about that situation.
happydude7422@reddit (OP)
Yeah I can't imagine Scotty treating Tucker from enterprise that way if the two of them met In tos.
StillhasaWiiU@reddit
Old Man McCoy was still around as well.
DukeAttreides@reddit
Probably. It was at least a year in-universe since his one mention and he was old as dirt, so he could easily be gone at any moment.
Malnurtured_Snay@reddit
He appeared in the first episode of TNG so six years earlier
Jetstream-Sam@reddit
He was 137 or so though, it's not guaranteed he'd live another 6.
Tacitus111@reddit
“I’m 137 now but will I live to see 143? The way things is going I don’t know.”
Malnurtured_Snay@reddit
McCoy was hell bent on making it to 150!!
diodosdszosxisdi@reddit
He wants to outlive Spock
Malnurtured_Snay@reddit
He's not making it
diodosdszosxisdi@reddit
Well he technically did for a short time
Malnurtured_Snay@reddit
I mean technically Spock dies (permanently) in 2263.... so McCoy wins! Even if he didn't.x
Calm_Ad308@reddit
McCoy was hell bent on out living his ex-wife!
banditkeith@reddit
Her choice to be cryogenically frozen did complicate things for him though
TheJohnnyFlash@reddit
It was never confirmed that was actually McCoy.
eagle_flower@reddit
It was an odd choice to never give his name… I don’t know if that was to drive home that TNG should stand on its own without the need for nostalgia?
EffectiveSalamander@reddit
I think they wanted to keep their options option for the movie series.
Sea-Quality4726@reddit
Entirely possible the scene was written by Fontana, and when Roddenberry was extending the episode with Q and padding to 2 hours, he left the scene to eat time but removed any mention of his name. Technically following his own new rule about no legacy characters mentioned.
eagle_flower@reddit
Appreciate this context!
diodosdszosxisdi@reddit
He starts talking abiut 1 peculiar Vulcan to data. And also abiut the enterprise too. Whi else could it be
MageKorith@reddit
His name was Sylvester. Rumor has it he had a flying telephone box that he and a certain Lanthanite had flown around in roughly a century and a half before...
(I'll see myself out now)
MartinoDeMoe@reddit
The other Real McCoy.
Cliomancer@reddit
So you're saying it wasn't the Real McCoy...
TheJohnnyFlash@reddit
Another night, another dream, but always you
It's like a vision of love that seems to be true
Another night, another dream, but always you
In the night I dream of love so true
Throwing-Gas@reddit
I talk talk talk
I talk to you
MisterTomServo@reddit
Run away, run away... Run away and save your life
MCSquaredBoi@reddit
It could have been a decoy McCoy. A McDecoy.
evocativename@reddit
Leonard DeCoy
Actual_Hyena3394@reddit
Nick Name Spurs
legate_fulvianus@reddit
?
NyxiraVelmisse@reddit
McCoy always had Scotty’s back, though. They were quite the duo!
Witty-Lawfulness2983@reddit
I thought the same thing, lol. He’s still alive in Picard until in told otherwise. Maybe a head in a jar on the bridge!!
dnkroz3d@reddit
"I know what year it is, I don't need a bloomin' cuckoo clock!"
HariSeldonsIntern@reddit
The Scotty version of “damnit Jim”
Bobb_o@reddit
Relics was in 2369. Uhura retired from Starfleet in 2333 at age 96 so maybe 95 is the new 65 in the 24th century.
HariSeldonsIntern@reddit
You know Uhura at 102 is still fine.
No-Flight-4214@reddit
Did anyone tell Scotty Spock was alive?
MetalSufficient9522@reddit
Spock was busy hiding out on Romulus... and he is not the greatest person to hang out with.
Rustie_J@reddit
Spock & Scotty got along great in TOS.
Yeah, Spock's besties were Kirk & McCoy, but he & Scotty never argued, & they worked together perfectly. They're both professionally obsessive kinda guys who's work is conveniently also their special interest. Spock isn't a hang out at the bar kinda guy, but I'll bet he's missed Scotty & would be pleased to have him back in his life.
realnanoboy@reddit
"It is illogical to reminisce." -Spock, probably
unsuspectingllama_@reddit
I fully feel like Spock here because sometimes when people are reminiscing with me I legit get confused and am like bitch I know i was there why are we talking about it. What? Oh. Yeah it was fun.
jackrabbit323@reddit
Scotty: So how are things Mr. Spock?
Spock: Adequate.
Scotty: You don't say. Nice chatting with you.
JohnnyRyde@reddit
There was a deleted scene where Troi asks him if he wants to do some research to see which of his old friends and family are still alive and Scotty is a little freaked out and says he isn't ready for that yet.
Character_Lychee_434@reddit
Geordi was a jerk In that episode
LGBT-Barbie-Cookout@reddit
If anyone was a jerk in that ensign its the dude who showed Scotty to his quarters - barely explained anything, wouldn't spend a few moments with him. Then ran the shit out of there.
Sure he probably also had some other duties to attend- but nothing that would be timed or as specifically critical as Geordis work, and would frankly fallen under diplomatic dignitary duties.
Atleast give the man the time of day - and explain the replicator and 10 forward.
Vindartn@reddit
Imma defend Geordi here. Someone should have been assigned to Scotty and been his guide/aid (Data would have been perfect tbh as in 10 seconds he could have had a complete idea of exactly where Scotty's timeframe and knowledge ended and what he needed to be filled in on) Walked him through the ship, answered his questions, treated him like an ambassador, and subsequently kept him out of trouble. Scotty could have figured out he was being babysat and gotten the same level of annoyed and ended up in Ten Forward then the Holodeck all the same.
Instead, he's completely alone, goes to the one place he can remotely call familiar, and starts getting in the way. Geordi had shit to do and this guy he's maybe only read about in books is doing the modern day equivalent of yanking control rods out of the reactor while complaining about how they don't make em like they used to. It really wasn't fair to Geordi to be painted as the bad guy here and I get it's so they can bond later, but I wish they had thought this one through a little better.
sicarius254@reddit
McCoy might have been alive. And O’brien, Bashir might have been a little young, and of course Worf in there
mikeflamel@reddit
Mccoy was alive as shown in the pilot episode. But hard to say if he is alive at the time of this event.
sicarius254@reddit
That’s why I said might
FullConsideration377@reddit
Scotty and Spock wernt exactly buddies. Also Scotty was supposedly retiring from Star Fleet and Spock was ever so heavily involved with the reunification with Romulans. I don't think Scotty wanted anything to do with that mess and Spock probably couldnt care less about Scotty.
It is a funny observation though. Scotty did sort of make his own bed in that situation.
Maybe engineering and alcoholism were his only friends in the end.
AubreyMaturin1800@reddit
I love how he was going to have a good time at Ten Forward but they decided no. Time to go. Ciao!
Spackleberry@reddit
Spock was on Romulus working with an underground movement. Imagine Scotty rolling up in a tricked-out shuttle and broadcasting that he wants to speak with his old buddy.
jgzman@reddit
He tried, that one time.
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Crossover_(novel)
tob007@reddit
Do you think the horn on his shuttle craft plays la cucaracha or Dixie both with bagpipes?
Spackleberry@reddit
Unquestionably.
apointlessvoice@reddit
i would love to see that episode. Scotty gets the deets from Picard, goes to a safe distance from Romulus, slaps together an encrypted as hell message and beams down to meet him while his shuttle acts as a distraction flying around on auto.
WorkingFellow@reddit
Beta canon has it that Uhura was an admiral, at that point.
thanatossassin@reddit
Hey, this guy that you worked with professionally but NEVER hung out with in any casual setting is alive. Maybe you guys just need to reconnect?
says the guy that took 7 years to sit down to a single game of poker with his crew
HisDivineOrder@reddit
Spock didn't talk to Scotty.
It wouldn't have been logical.
BuccoFever412@reddit
At least we got them on one last adventure in “Crossover”
Menzicosce@reddit
Always found it amusing they had Scotty haul an old gal out of mothballs to come looking for Spock
OhNoIBoffedIt@reddit
That was a good book.
Any-Tumbleweed-9931@reddit
I love the fact that the recent IDW Star Trek series not only brought people from TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY together, but also reunited Scotty with Spock, and at the end of the series, Uhura.
CRB429@reddit
And then he stole a shuttle! Hahahha
Criton47@reddit
McCoy may be. He was in the first episode.
PurpleHawkeye619@reddit
Saavik and McCoy were still around as well as Spock.
Demora Sulu would probably still be alive too. She was roughly in her 20s in 2293. No reason to think she's dead by 2369. Especially since she apparently lived long enough to make captain.
And we will see what happens to Pelia but no current reason to think shes dead either.
Different_Song_1043@reddit
"Y'know, I jus remembered, Jim Kirk could'n've pulled the old girl out of mothballs to come find me, he got sucked out into space during that incident with the Enterprise-B."
"Ol' 'Next Tuesday' Harriman's ship?"
"Aye"
"That guy's a legend. I read all his adventures at the academy."
BitcoinMD@reddit
Ever notice how they never meet anyone whose missions are optional reading at the academy?
ijfp_2013@reddit
Bones was in Encounter at Farpoint, he could be there as well.
ErichPryde@reddit
I can't agree. He doesn't specifically want any one person's company- this was all about his feelings of a world that has been left behind, and that's not something that Spock's presence would at all fix.