In the past, Knights had to pay for their own weapons and armour. Imagine applying that to modern militaries with mandatory service for billionaires' families.
A division spending millions on tanks and body armour and support vehicles and food and technology and medical. Actual space marine divisions.
Trump was given four educational deferments, and then given a medical deferment (1-Y) for a minor medical condition, not an exemption. The military then abolished the category of deferment he was on, so his deferment was upgraded to an exemption (4-F). That was something that he (or more specifically his father) would have had no power to influence.
When the conscription lottery was introduced in 1969, Trump's birthdate put him in the 356 out of 366 category. The draft never came close to that number, so he wouldn't have been called up anyway. Again, something beyond his control.
I'm not saying there weren't shenanigans, but people overstate what Trump would have been able to achieve at the time. Biden, for example, received five educational deferments and and then an exemption for asthma. Again, not something he personally would have had much power to influence. The military have the power to reject anyone for any reason, as they should, and perhaps neither man was what they wanted at the time.
If he doesn’t pull a Trump and get a medical exemption he’d be stationed in the DC or San Diego area trying to further imbed his company’s software into the military.
The CTO of palantir is a major in the military doing exactly that.
Some pranksters in Russia called sons of oligarchs pretending to be from draft office. They didn't even get scared for a second, they just immediately got angry, screaming "I'm son of XYZ, are you so stupid you don't know how the system works?!"
They’re real unclassified documents from the FBI file on the ADL - doesn’t mean everything in the file is what its own text claims it to be. Just means the feds had a copy of this letter claiming to be from the ADL and filed it as relevant.
Well, you see, that's the same shit when our legal system has decided money is speech and can be given in unlimited amounts to those who write, enforce, and interpret our laws.
As long as all the people, their kids and grandkids of the policy makers are drafted too. Cant be making war using other peoples children. The talk surrounding war would shift overnight if Don Jr had to pack it up and serve in Iran
Things are going to get much worse and crazier, looks like the mutt empire wants a do escalate to total war in response to them getting bitchslapped and I think they still won’t achieve anything important
I actually absolutely agree with him. The transition from a draft system to a volunteer system happened exactly because Vietnam showed the MIC that Americans will eventually forcefully stop their blood machine if it burdens their lives too much.
Now that the draft is gone, we talk about war like it's the weather, something that just happens and we don't pay much attention. The power brokers can do almost anything with little blowback (see: Trump's retarded Iran debacle).
The only way this stops is if the average person has skin in the game. If it isn't important enough for a draft, we shouldn't be doing it.
Might be a good comparison if we had a firefighting industrial complex with huge say in our government's decision making process, and our government then went around starting random fires around the world which cost billions to put out, mostly for the benefit of said firefighting industrial complex.
Are you stupid? Some of the worst wars we've ever fought were ones when we still had the draft. The number of casualties have been nowhere near the same since we switched to volunteer service. If we lost as many people in a war now as we did in Vietnam or Korea, people would be absolutely pissed about it.
The decision makers have shown they have zero empathy for the lives of average citizens. Instituting the draft would just give them a huge supply of forced cannon fodder to rattle Sabres and bully countries with.
Until the decision makers and rich elite are forced to front line serve, a draft would be a terrible burden for the poor only.
Empathy for the cannon fodder was never a thing. The draft just gets the fodder off its ass and democratizes the military, as non professional soldiers are now participating.
Without it, the military goes from a citizen army to a group of mercenaries largely insulated from the democratic process.
somebody needs to get rid of this guy before he does more stupid shit at some point his corpse needs to be floating down the river also how does the guy not know people can just say no to the draft and go to jail or flee to canada? whats stopping from being hit with a military coup
It's always the people who won't get drafted calling for mandatory service and it's always the Marxists in a rush to volunteer other people's labor and blood.
Yeah right. You think you're putting Zoomers on the battlefield? Alpha? To what fucking effect?
If billionaires wanted combat thralls, they should have thought of that before they created a society that depends entirely on screens. They did this to themselves - it's robots or nothing for them.
It would be nice if 100% of the population had some kind of civil service training, military or not. When the tornado hits, we don’t need baristas and GameStop cashiers. We also don’t need everyone climbing over each other not knowing what to do. It’s so much wasted energy. I have a strong back and medical training. If I get a civil alert and know not to go to work and instead go to city hall and pick up a shovel or hop on the ambulance, that would be great. Baristas can go work the food distribution tent. Cashiers can go sweep up or unpack boxes of MREs or whatever. This doesn’t have to be a dystopian nightmare. I mean it’ll wind up being that way but it doesn’t have to.
I thought that was readily apparent given the fact that they've been salivating for a war to let their AI run and could not care less about the lives being lost for it. Dude is pretty much outright saying that everybody should get thrown in the meat grinder so he can watch his robots murder people
Don't worry, only the unpopular folks will be drafted. Surely training and arming the castouts of society for the purpose of shoring up the same society would not produce any long term consequences whatsoever...
FormerPresidentBiden@reddit
I support 1 usage if human wave tactics and it involves him and all of his friends
Crunchy-Leaf@reddit
Ah yes the billionaire division that every army has. No doubt he’ll be first in line when draft hits.
snrup1@reddit
Homie we're all going to be fighting resource wars on behalf of megacorps.
FreshTomacco@reddit
That and hes almost 60 years old.
p2020fan@reddit
Man, imagine a billionaires division in the army.
In the past, Knights had to pay for their own weapons and armour. Imagine applying that to modern militaries with mandatory service for billionaires' families.
A division spending millions on tanks and body armour and support vehicles and food and technology and medical. Actual space marine divisions.
BrocoliAssassin@reddit
Imagine how braindead that poster would have to be to think rich people would be the ones getting drafted in wars.
Iwubinvesting@reddit
The current president lied about a medical exemption for the draft.
FremanBloodglaive@reddit
Trump was given four educational deferments, and then given a medical deferment (1-Y) for a minor medical condition, not an exemption. The military then abolished the category of deferment he was on, so his deferment was upgraded to an exemption (4-F). That was something that he (or more specifically his father) would have had no power to influence.
When the conscription lottery was introduced in 1969, Trump's birthdate put him in the 356 out of 366 category. The draft never came close to that number, so he wouldn't have been called up anyway. Again, something beyond his control.
I'm not saying there weren't shenanigans, but people overstate what Trump would have been able to achieve at the time. Biden, for example, received five educational deferments and and then an exemption for asthma. Again, not something he personally would have had much power to influence. The military have the power to reject anyone for any reason, as they should, and perhaps neither man was what they wanted at the time.
Beautiful_Bus_7847@reddit
Even if there will be political will to draft him, he will just flee to Israel
Shaquarington_Bithus@reddit
No he wouldn’t lmao.
If he doesn’t pull a Trump and get a medical exemption he’d be stationed in the DC or San Diego area trying to further imbed his company’s software into the military.
The CTO of palantir is a major in the military doing exactly that.
MarkSuckerZerg@reddit
Some pranksters in Russia called sons of oligarchs pretending to be from draft office. They didn't even get scared for a second, they just immediately got angry, screaming "I'm son of XYZ, are you so stupid you don't know how the system works?!"
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
You know who my unncl is?
Tast3sLikePanda@reddit
If he is a billionaire he chose to have this hairline
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Don't be silly, Jewish doctors will exempt him from military service. It says so right here in this document on page 119.
BitingSatyr@reddit
I see stuff like this and think “that seems a bit too on the nose to be real,” but this is from the fucking New York Times
Alive-Big-838@reddit
Stop it you might make people NOTICE
suica1983@reddit
B.U.R.T
Alive-Big-838@reddit
I'm about to Burt off
suica1983@reddit
Interesting….
CPriceRun86@reddit
That is unreal. Wow.
EatMiTits@reddit
Yes, as in it literally isn’t real
Responsible-Onion860@reddit
Much of the precise language from that document is reported as being in an application for religious exemption as reported by the New York Times.
CPriceRun86@reddit
If it isn't, someone put in the effort on the 30 pages of handwriting, redactions, and "fake" investigation reports...
TheWormInWaiting@reddit
They’re real unclassified documents from the FBI file on the ADL - doesn’t mean everything in the file is what its own text claims it to be. Just means the feds had a copy of this letter claiming to be from the ADL and filed it as relevant.
Murandus@reddit
The power of schizo.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
Angel_OfSolitude@reddit
Look out guys, the future of politics is decided.
MJisaFraud@reddit
These assholes nobody likes have a huge amount of influence on our political system, though.
willindeed@reddit
You mean money?
nitonitonii@reddit
in usa is the same
willindeed@reddit
Pretty sure that goes for most countries
Kief_Bowl@reddit
When lobbying is allowed those are the same thing
nelsonalgrencametome@reddit
Money can be exchanged for favors and influence.
franglaisflow@reddit
Dental plan
BulbuhTsar@reddit
Well, you see, that's the same shit when our legal system has decided money is speech and can be given in unlimited amounts to those who write, enforce, and interpret our laws.
nitonitonii@reddit
Anon doesn't know what an oligarch is
Klugenshmirtz@reddit
Yeah, the same guy openly fantasizing about piss spraying drones. I don't have a good feeling about this.
daokonblack@reddit
Get a load of this guy, he still believes we live in a democracy LOL
Iliyan61@reddit
that same guy has the US DOD begging for more with his product and has multiple other countries as clients*
no one likes him maybe… lots of people want or need him it seems
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
Sure as fuck isn't the elections that are deciding the future.
MyDogIsDaBest@reddit
Well it kinda is and isn't at the same time, right? You're given 2 options, but the Epstein class has bought both of them up.
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
They do, but shoving the 2 party paradigm apart would increase the selection of different options.
PrrrromotionGiven1@reddit
You get to choose slow decline into oligarchy or fast decline into oligarchy
Woooow
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
Vote for the anti oligarchy party duh
nsaisspying@reddit
Said the same thing about Trump
Iwubinvesting@reddit
Not even a week ago Trump was shilling Palantir stock. Pretty sure he isn't some nobody, the guy has the US president in his pocket.
blackmobius@reddit
Im all for a draft-
As long as all the people, their kids and grandkids of the policy makers are drafted too. Cant be making war using other peoples children. The talk surrounding war would shift overnight if Don Jr had to pack it up and serve in Iran
BanIfYouRGhey@reddit
And they should be first drafted before anyone else
Judah_Earl@reddit
Boomers then: Spent the 60s & 70s protesting the draft.
Boomers now: "You youngsters WILL die to protect Israel".
Alive-Big-838@reddit
it's amazing how all it took for the booms to do a huge 180 was the picture box.
mischling2543@reddit
Also for them to be too old to serve. Truly the most selfish generation of all time.
Alive-Big-838@reddit
It's so easy for people to think "Someone should do something about this"
FMC_Speed@reddit
Things are going to get much worse and crazier, looks like the mutt empire wants a do escalate to total war in response to them getting bitchslapped and I think they still won’t achieve anything important
Kurt805@reddit
I actually absolutely agree with him. The transition from a draft system to a volunteer system happened exactly because Vietnam showed the MIC that Americans will eventually forcefully stop their blood machine if it burdens their lives too much.
Now that the draft is gone, we talk about war like it's the weather, something that just happens and we don't pay much attention. The power brokers can do almost anything with little blowback (see: Trump's retarded Iran debacle).
The only way this stops is if the average person has skin in the game. If it isn't important enough for a draft, we shouldn't be doing it.
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
Stupid opinion. Force everyone into firefighting or stop putting out fires
Blow-up-the-fed@reddit
Correct. Stop wasting tax payer money on fires that happen naturally, which helps control the ecosystem.
Kurt805@reddit
Might be a good comparison if we had a firefighting industrial complex with huge say in our government's decision making process, and our government then went around starting random fires around the world which cost billions to put out, mostly for the benefit of said firefighting industrial complex.
That's a really stretched metaphor tbh.
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
Also a bit of a one-sided take on intervention wars like Iran.
sadacal@reddit
Are you stupid? Some of the worst wars we've ever fought were ones when we still had the draft. The number of casualties have been nowhere near the same since we switched to volunteer service. If we lost as many people in a war now as we did in Vietnam or Korea, people would be absolutely pissed about it.
CapitalistVenezuelan@reddit
Or they'd wage more wars and bloat the military further. Also conscript armies have serious discipline issues (see the IDF).
pojohnny@reddit
good points.
outland_king@reddit
The decision makers have shown they have zero empathy for the lives of average citizens. Instituting the draft would just give them a huge supply of forced cannon fodder to rattle Sabres and bully countries with.
Until the decision makers and rich elite are forced to front line serve, a draft would be a terrible burden for the poor only.
Kurt805@reddit
Empathy for the cannon fodder was never a thing. The draft just gets the fodder off its ass and democratizes the military, as non professional soldiers are now participating.
Without it, the military goes from a citizen army to a group of mercenaries largely insulated from the democratic process.
SUPERSAM76@reddit
Mandatory goyim military service glory to the great state of Israel!
LooseButtPlug@reddit
I'd go to prison for murdering CEOs before I'd go to the front lines for politicians.
swagmond27@reddit
somebody needs to get rid of this guy before he does more stupid shit at some point his corpse needs to be floating down the river also how does the guy not know people can just say no to the draft and go to jail or flee to canada? whats stopping from being hit with a military coup
nitonitonii@reddit
Ameritards wanted UBI because they arr useless aginst AI
their fascist gov said instead "free money? oooh no, I have a job for you. why won't you go abroad get me some resources instead?"
while their elite decides upon everything of course
Outis918@reddit
I’m assuming he didn’t serve?
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Responsible-Onion860@reddit
It's always the people who won't get drafted calling for mandatory service and it's always the Marxists in a rush to volunteer other people's labor and blood.
Slide-Maleficent@reddit
Yeah right. You think you're putting Zoomers on the battlefield? Alpha? To what fucking effect?
If billionaires wanted combat thralls, they should have thought of that before they created a society that depends entirely on screens. They did this to themselves - it's robots or nothing for them.
Alive-Big-838@reddit
I'll actually argue a bit on the contrary, that they made the perfect bullet fodder, but horrific soldiers without any initiative.
xXHalalManXx@reddit
Palantir Boy can go first
Dead_HumanCollection@reddit
"So does he think he won't get drafted?"
...... Yes anon, obviously.
Complex_Ganache1178@reddit
Not even necessary to check Early life anymore
Becaus789@reddit
It would be nice if 100% of the population had some kind of civil service training, military or not. When the tornado hits, we don’t need baristas and GameStop cashiers. We also don’t need everyone climbing over each other not knowing what to do. It’s so much wasted energy. I have a strong back and medical training. If I get a civil alert and know not to go to work and instead go to city hall and pick up a shovel or hop on the ambulance, that would be great. Baristas can go work the food distribution tent. Cashiers can go sweep up or unpack boxes of MREs or whatever. This doesn’t have to be a dystopian nightmare. I mean it’ll wind up being that way but it doesn’t have to.
Medical_Officer@reddit
Silly g0y, the Chosen don't get drafted. Their lives are too precious.
iamAliAsghar@reddit
Be the sacrificial lambs, goyim.
Vitality_VZ@reddit
ZyklonFart@reddit
Why are jews so underrepresented in the armed forces and when is the last time the IDF fought a war alongside xircumcised burgers?
EatBaconDaily@reddit
🎶It ain’t me, it ain’t me, I ain’t no Palantir CEOs son 🎶
thatErraticguy@reddit
I have a feeling the Palantir CEO is the type of media illiterate dipshit to listen to that song and miss the point
BenAfflecksBalls@reddit
I thought that was readily apparent given the fact that they've been salivating for a war to let their AI run and could not care less about the lives being lost for it. Dude is pretty much outright saying that everybody should get thrown in the meat grinder so he can watch his robots murder people
r1sf4@reddit
Does he believe everyone should share in the state‘s profit as well, or just in the risk and cost?
ChadMutants@reddit
by everyone he means everyone but his class obviousvly
i suggest a mandatory draft only for those people
FrogOnABus@reddit
“Not being some unpopular AI 🚬 should be a national duty.”
CapitalistVenezuelan@reddit
Just like our greatest ally!
bethemanwithaplan@reddit
This nut job has no useful advice
IAmSuperiorLogic@reddit
Not fighting any wars for Israel. Sorry.
A_Dragon@reddit
As long as all the soldiers can vote directly on whether they want to go to war or not I support this.
Our boys are weak and some forced boot camp training would be good for them. But they need to have the final say on all wars.
TomatoSpecialist6879@reddit
In current day warfare, being drafted just means you're going to be used as drone baits
TenguBuranchi@reddit
Your kids 1st you derranged cunt
John_Oakman@reddit
Don't worry, only the unpopular folks will be drafted. Surely training and arming the castouts of society for the purpose of shoring up the same society would not produce any long term consequences whatsoever...
outland_king@reddit
Or maybe this fuck should work on making fighting forces irrelevant