Lolbertarianism
Posted by AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 115 comments
Posted by AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit | 4chan | View on Reddit | 115 comments
NoShit_94@reddit
There were price controls before, which means there was a shortage of meat.
Argentina had decades of retarded leftist policy, it ain't gonna fix itself painlessly in 2 years.
EnterprisingAss@reddit
So what’s the timeline? 4 years? 10 years? The second coming of Jesus?
BlueSoulsKo@reddit
en la argentina nueva gobernó la izquierda, además Posta estás hablando de falta de carne? le exportamos a todo el mundo
NoShit_94@reddit
Are you saying Milei is a leftist?
Of course. If the price is fixed below the market rate in Argentina, then all the producers will sell it abroad, no one is running a charity business.
VampiroMedicado@reddit
The autocorrector fked up lol he said "en la argentina nunca gobernó la izquierda".
NoShit_94@reddit
I honestly don't know if that is more or less delusional.
gayhotelultra@reddit
this shit always gets a good chuckle out of me
ruin the country for ages, blame the next guy for not fixing it immediately, tried and tested method
Dave1307@reddit
an israeli talking about 'living above your means' is so funny to me. what if the US stopped sending tons of money to Israel and they had to fund their wars on their own? where is the money coming from?
blood_clot_@reddit
All that money circles back. After all they're sending it all back to lockheed martin and rtx.
AtlanteanBarbarian@reddit
That just means they get free military hardware and American man-hours + materials you bozo.
blood_clot_@reddit
It's the fault of the military industrial complex. If not israel then any other vassal state could've been the intermediary. U Americans always need an external devil, never to question your own masters.
PurpleWoodpecker2830@reddit
Reminder Israel has universal healthcare but USA doesn’t. We’re literally paying for the their healthcare before our own.
alexis_1031@reddit
This is what pisses me off so much
Chi_Cazzo_Sei@reddit
That, and the unapologetic mass murder of men, women, and children.
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Mister_Squishy@reddit
About 48 hours would transpire before an alliance with China or Russia would develop. From their POV, they aren’t getting that funding for free. They’re selling their alliance, and have plenty to trade for the funds. Before it was the US, they were doing it with other countries.
Successful-Flan-9763@reddit
trade what? their expertise in killing children?
Swolnerman@reddit
You’re a moron if you think it’s a real Israeli posting. 3 of these a week get posted, all with the Israel flag with some asshole take
NoPossibility4178@reddit
They own the US so why would they stop sending money to themselves?
2swoll4u@reddit
If the US stopped then China would start
Israel provides too much military tech
tehringworm@reddit
Start what? Giving Israel billions of dollars in hand-outs each year?
TheUniballer321@reddit
China already has ports there, like most 3rd world countries they signed up for the belt and road program.
Responsible-Onion860@reddit
They'd starve and lose medical care, AIPAC would go broke, politicians would no longer need to bow at the wall and lick IDF boots.
leastemployableman@reddit
They would starve to death let alone run out of funds to fight wars.
Judah_Earl@reddit
Which makes me laugh when they say they want to stop accepting American money.
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StevenAdamsInDallas@reddit
And they're producers...
Mahizzta@reddit
I would expect that’s exactly why. They would rather sell out of country at higher prices
Few_Stress_9812@reddit
So the few rich producers can make annextra buxk at the expense of the poor not being able to eat?
Mahizzta@reddit
Yes, that’s exactly how it works. Why would they sell at $1/pound to Argentinians if they can export at $10/pound? Argentinian economy is in shambles currently and not looking to improve in the near future
Few_Stress_9812@reddit
This wont make argentinian working class any richer or improve the country's economy in any way. The big meat exporters are already rich
Mahizzta@reddit
I agree. I’m not arguing that it’s a good thing. I’m just stating it is a thing in a more and more globalized world
OnePastafarian@reddit
Which means they're probably exporting lol
HulaguIncarnate@reddit
Also the largest consumers of beef.
RetconnedUsername@reddit
when you stop subsiding meat consumption and let it reach the international price 🤯🤯🤯
RatherGoodDog@reddit
Two dollars a fucking kilo for beef? Man even potatoes aren't that cheap in many places.
Gonedric@reddit
That's Argentinian Peso, and it's no 2, it's 2 THOUSAND. Argentinian Peso is very cheap.
352397@reddit
Thats worse.
Thats like a $1.50 USD a kilo for beef. That is literally cheaper than fucking potatoes in the US.
Few_Stress_9812@reddit
Argentinian salaries are way worse
acjs@reddit
Incredible how Americans can’t even think of the possibility that in some places dots are used as thousands separator.
RatherGoodDog@reddit
Incredible that third worlders still do this.
Poetista_In_Action@reddit
Ahh yes, let us all hail the mighty imperial system, completly logical and used in the whole world...measuring stuff with fingers and feet, an whatever the fuck yards and miles are lol
Markus148@reddit
Imperial system can survive getting all its measuring tools wiped and keep going because it’s all based on the human body, which we all have.
Go ahead and get a precise meter without having to walk Half of Europe down a certain line of longitude needing a whole tram to figure it out and then update it over years. Or figure out what celcius degree it is without being at a certain sea level with a certain type of water that you freeze and boil, which again, got updated after years of new attempts because they couldn’t figure out the sea level thing.
You need to wait for them to provide you with the new accurate measurement tools. I just use what I was given at birth.
Twisty1020@reddit
Not smart enough to figure that out? Not surprising.
352397@reddit
Only the ones that were molested by the French, Spanish, or the soviets. Even the Chinese and Indians figured out that decimal point was the correct (and original) way of doing things.
jbourne71@reddit
Ok but what is that in Stanley nickels?
theSearch4Truth@reddit
Whats the conversation rate for Schrute bucks to Stanley nickels?
jbourne71@reddit
Oh about seven AND STICK IT UP YOUR BUTT!
Th30cles@reddit
Nice relevant reference Anon. I hope you live a long life full of peace.
Gonedric@reddit
About tree fiddy
Shitposter4OOO@reddit
Yeah, plus this graphic is almost pointless without showing the blue dollar values for each column.
HulaguIncarnate@reddit
Meat consumption went up during Miller despite what redditors like to believe.
Coldbee@reddit
Yeah donkey and poultry meat consumption went up while beef went down, in a country with more cows than people
RetconnedUsername@reddit
these cattle property are mostly large hacienda estates. rich land owning holdovers from the colonial period. it was kept into place due bribes and corruption.
the state is basically handing over billions in subsidies to already rich "landlords"
Removing this system is an unequivocally good policy regardless of your political orientation or opinions on Miele
calibud@reddit
Good for who?
IgnoreMePlz123@reddit
Good for people who are against subsidies for big corporations
calibud@reddit
Which I understand to a point but this is food everyone needs food. How is this suppose to help the locals?
DanzoDiver@reddit
Believe it or not, there are other foods than beef. It's is one of the most resource inefficient, polluting, and unhealthy meats you can produce.
Despite stopping the pipeline of government money to rich ranch owners, Argentina is still consuming the most beef in the world, so I think they're doing okay.
calibud@reddit
What are you getting at? Still going to be produced isn’t it. Exactly my point though how is it beneficial to the locals to be unable to pay for a staple in their diet and just told to eat something else. Whatever money the government saves will probably be repaid and then some by the people who want to eat meat.
Who is this good for?
IgnoreMePlz123@reddit
By not giving money to big corporations
HulaguIncarnate@reddit
Did beef go down from 2024 to 2025?
Iron-Fist@reddit
That isn't what's happening though? Argentina never capped beef prices or subsidized them specifically...
It's just that they've had crazy inflation (barely touched it despite the profuse media coverage, their inflation is higher than turkey) which has destroyed buying power especially for anything a) imported and b) they can be easily exported. Right now iPhones are the equivalent of like $2.5k there ffs lol
RetconnedUsername@reddit
new Zealand did this too in the 80's. their agricultural sector is now one of the most competitive in the world and a driving part of their economy.
NoPossibility4178@reddit
Based. I too wouldn't mind only eating bug meat for the rest of my life if it meant I could let the Big Meat CEO get a couple more yatchs.
Banbaur@reddit
Id let the big meat ceo slap his yacht against my bug meat
a_bright_knight@reddit
and their meat is more expensive in NZ than in the countries they export it to. Competitive exporters doesn't mean competitive market as well
fresh-anus@reddit
New Zealander here, our own meat is fucking stupidly expensive but I’m glad Big Meat can buy more farms I guess.
Hot_Government_8798@reddit
Not to mention that the subsidized price was in pesos and the meat would just be resold at the market value in USD.
Why the fuck are leftists so fucking stupid?
RaEndymionStillLives@reddit
Because Javier is the antithesis to leftist beliefs. Him being right and making his country better is the worst outcome for them
Fwob@reddit
Globalists have wanted a continually dumber general public.
Now we're at the apex of it.
Alive-Big-838@reddit
This is why I think it's so funny that people think the government is going to be the one to reverse the decline they basically helped cause.
Kief_Bowl@reddit
Governments have taken away people's ability to exist without them. They're killing the family unit and making people dumber so everyone will be reliant on the state.
Fwob@reddit
a nationalist government would have no incentive to dumb down their people, ship out all their production, and flood the country with non productive 3rd worlders.
XTA@reddit
left can't meme
dalepo@reddit
meat wasn't subsidized
pachumelajapi@reddit
As usual with biased stuff, theres missing info. Salaries and the usd went up as well. Most likely not at the same rate, but a key piece of data.
gabo_98100@reddit
Dying of nominalism.
First of all, those were not the real prices under the last administration. Those are the "regulated" prices (you didn't find it anywhere).
Then, the inflation at December 2023 was 25% in the month. 211% annually. That was insane and of course it impacted in the price of everything.
If you take the real variation (taking inflation into the calcs), it is actually almost at the same real price it was back then.
Few_Stress_9812@reddit
No, it's still more expensive. Meat prices are above the inflation numbers (which are bullshit numbers anyway and are still going up despite every policy Milei has taken against it)
gabo_98100@reddit
Based on the average price of meat in Nov 23 (INDEC) the "asado" was ARS 3700. If you apply the accumulated inflation from Nov23 to Mar26, it will give you around ARS 17000, that is the avg price for it.
So... Do not fight against numbers. Understand if you don't trust the index or the government, but according to the numbers, meat costs as it was back then.
You can use this website to check it if you wish.
Regards!!!
BadB0ii@reddit
if the left side is price controlled then you can just assume it was never on store shelves. When you let items trade for their actual price then yeah, not everyone can afford it, but at least it is physically available to buy if you want it instead of paying the same inflated price + risk premiums to get it on the black market.
ZlinkyNipz@reddit
israel is living above their means, lol.
Valuable-Chipmunk784@reddit
All this tells me is that the leftist government had a program where taxes would pay 90% of the cost of the meat, which Milei cut.
scoringspuds@reddit
Many such cases
VampiroMedicado@reddit
We have yet to have a left government in Argentina, the left is the evil of all evils but they get at most 2 representatives in the lower chamber.
tehringworm@reddit
It’s not a tax issue. Their currency is on life support.
thunderdragonite@reddit
Having affordable food is good actually
-StalkedByDeath-@reddit
So bolster the supply chain itself instead of just bleeding money to lower prices
thunderdragonite@reddit
Argentina is a net exporter of beef they have a surplus. This price increase is insane and makes no logical sense.
It just seems like milei is causing hyperinflation by being retarded which is what everyone predicted he’d do.
fabri2343@reddit
Actually quite the opposite. The government implemented heavy taxes on meat. One of the promises of milei was that the price of meat would go down after he got rid of those taxes.
OnePastafarian@reddit
Or global demand for meat went or or literally anything.
ArcticLeopard@reddit
Global demand for meet is always going up. Argentina just stopped subsidizing it
Sniper_231996@reddit
Thanks for explaining
chedder@reddit
This is pure central banker Keynesian fantasy not libertarian or capitalism.
Crony-capitalism's worse then Communism.
wordjedi@reddit
wait, meat is feminine there? no
Stampylonghead_the_g@reddit
Israel's existence depends on a small number of desalination plants and it would be really really funny if
Ok-Author-3095@reddit
OP has 1.7 million karma
Cryorm@reddit
And 1700 posts in two years. 7300 comments.
Kief_Bowl@reddit
You will eat ze bugs
Slide-Maleficent@reddit
VTHokie2020@reddit
Prices on the left are a rob Peter to pay Paul scenario.
LooseButtPlug@reddit
Tell me you don't understand unsustainable subsidies without telling me you don't understand unsustainable subsidies.
pvdp90@reddit
It’s funny because the US is probably the king of unsustainable subsidies. Except there it’s not the people getting subsidies, it’s just already fucking wildly rich megacorpos
LooseButtPlug@reddit
...tell me you don't know what unsustainable is without telling me you don't know what unsustainable is.
NonBalisticSniper@reddit
Reddit is that way
Responsible-Onion860@reddit
And middle eastern countries
LeavingAbigail@reddit
How in the fuck was beef ever that cheap there lmfao
TheReviewerWildTake@reddit
I am not invested enough to research it, but most often than not, when ppl pretended that "left leaning policies made life cheaper" they usually were hiding tons of hidden costs, like subsidies, taxes etc.
Which usually means that people PRE-PAID for "cheaper things", and then they stopped pre-paying and just started to pay market price.
0rganic_Corn@reddit
Milei took office January 2024
https://www.swissinfo.ch/content/wp-content/uploads/sites/13/2024/11/db0ccb4538aece2851c94ad4e308954a-88118891.jpg?resize=1200,1200
This sustained rise in prices was created before him and latest data shows he's slowing it down
Inflation is a pro-Milei argument
Sad-Awareness-6778@reddit
Im not entirely sure if its adequate to show nominal prices given the astronomical inflation in Argentina
TheBaggyDapper@reddit
Anoñ just wants to tapa dat asado.
ThaBroccoliDood@reddit
based and veganpilled
Ponsha@reddit
Prices on the left were government subsidized cuts that were either imposible te get or 50%+ fat. Prices on the right are highly inflated o just premium cuts. There is a of price discrepancy between stores since prices are still normalizing. Also inflation, since that date, has been 343% so if you actually used real values it’s probably not that far off from every other good.
AdhesivenessNo6408@reddit
Looks like meats off the menu boys