What’s a Xena fandom opinion that would cause this?

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Sithstress_@reddit

I’ve just realized I really need to rewatch Xena. Haven’t since it was airing but I loved that show. I used to do her yell when I was going flips on the trampoline 🤣.

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anglosassin@reddit

If there is one thing I love more than Lucy Lawless, it is Kevin Sorbo.

(Wow, it caused me physical pain to write that.)

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It's not just his incredible range as an actor, it's his wonderful personality. Never before have I met such a humble, caring, open-minded person. He made me believe in God not by preaching, but by allowing me to see his God-given smile.

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AtheistVeganWitch@reddit

whaaaa?

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Sithstress_@reddit

They forgot the /s the end. Lmao

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Dark-Lark@reddit

Okay but really, seeing some of the spats between Kevin Sorbo and Lucy Lawless online are good.

Everyone should have the freedom to have a bad take on something, if only so others can poke fun at it.

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Popular-One-7051@reddit

😂😂😂

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NoPassenger8598@reddit

Oof...yuck.. Yuck, yuck, yuck.

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Lmao I think you are the first person so ever write that sentence

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ShadowProclamation15@reddit

Almost downvoted on reflex 😆

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Narrow_Currency_1877@reddit

Eve was a better character on the show than anyone, even better than Xena.

(My fingers just tried to break themselves typing that)

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TypesAndPatterns@reddit

In terms of fanfic potential, this is absolutely true. They planned a lot more for her, in a future series, but ran out of time. Most of her story is still untold.

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DameEris@reddit

Hercules and Xena were meant to be

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Everyone’s a hater 😅😫

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DameEris@reddit

Lmao I had to. I saw this one shipper (who was obviously more of a Hercules fan) that got so much hate that I felt bad for them. They weren't being any kind of phobic. They were just romantic for the redemption arc. This is sympathy lol

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Honestly I feel like that shipper was me 😅 I vaguely remember your user name from the interaction hehe. I’m definitely not more of a Herc fan though. I’ll gladly take the sympathy, the Xena/Hercules shipping road is a lonely one! lol

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DameEris@reddit

Maybe it was! I really suck with names. Also, you made me sentimental and I found Hercules season 1 on sale. I just rewatched The Gauntlet and Untamed Heart this past Sunday.

The perspective you presented seemed more Hercules focused. That isn't a criticism. Narratively it makes sense at that time in the story. I didn't realize before that Xena was the first woman Herc had slept with since Daenera

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Oh I love that! How did you enjoy the rewatch? I think Hercules season one is such a fun watch.

Ahhh I see what you mean now, I’ve never thought about that but yeah I do think more from Hercules’s perspective - I think that’s because I’m so taken by Xena that I put myself in the mind of the person admiring her rather than being her, if that makes sense lol.

Yeah, sleeping with Xena was super significant in his story. He had turned down Lyla, who looked just like Xena, saying that sex for him had to really mean something and be worth the risk of pregnancy. So it definitely gives his decision with Xena extra weight.

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DameEris@reddit

Yeah, it was fun actually. After listening to Alexandra Tydings talk about Kevin's good side on Xena Warrior Nutballs, it was like being able to watch through innocent eyes again. There are a few episodes I had never seen before, like the two other episodes in the middle of the Xena Trilogy lol

And yeah, I remember that line just a few episodes before. It does make the not working out even more of a heartbreak. However, I do come from more of a Xena frame of mind. I understand why she had to walk away and why it broke her heart.

And please don't misunderstand my "Xena frame of mind." It's not a fan measuring contest. I mean that as a woman who has practiced martial arts and grew up in a military family. I literally identify with a strategic, disciplined, personal honor sort of mindset. I know what it is like to play hard with the boys, etc. Still haven't found my Gabrielle though lol

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Evilbuffy14@reddit

I'm sorry, y'all. I've upvoted so many of your great 'suggestions', but I gotta stop now. I'm off to shower, throw up and burn my clothes.

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7Clarinetto9@reddit

You're gonna throw up after the shower? What if you get it all over you?

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Evilbuffy14@reddit

Lmao. I'll change the order.

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LaurenInStereo119@reddit

Gabrielle should have been with Joxer.

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I don't actually think so, I like ragebaiting

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DameEris@reddit

This post dared you to sarcastically rage bait lol

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Latte-Catte@reddit

That the subtextual nature of their relationship adds not detract from it. And people rightfully can speculate whether they're lovers or just really good friends as much as they please.

The comedy episodes were just Lucy being herself lol

I prefer season 1 - season 3 Xena, Xena changed and became other worldly in season 4. Nothing wrong with that.

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Agent8699@reddit

Xena deserved to die and stay dead 😵

She shouldn’t have enjoyed six years of adventuring, comedic hijinks and bed roll snuggles with a cute blonde with killer abs after everything she had done.

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SakuraTacos@reddit

Really, since she was supposed to die on Hercules before we even got to Xena: Warrior Princess, the finale was like “Ugh finally! I’ve been waiting ages for her to get what’s coming!” Think of how much time we would’ve saved if they just wouldn’t have even bothered making XWP at all!

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Agent8699@reddit

OMG! I know!

It’s like, what a waste of time? They could have made a spinoff with Falafel and instead they chosen Xena?!

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theseedbeader@reddit

Omg, Falafel… that’s a character I haven’t thought about in a while.

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Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit

yeah she really deserved it for trying to come between those beloved boys!

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Agent8699@reddit

Just let them enjoy their near naked, sweaty sword play in privacy! ⚔️

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timthemajestic@reddit

They're not in love.

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magical_lasso@reddit

Just gals being pals

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theseedbeader@reddit

Girls being friends

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wayne-on-reddit@reddit

So don't forget it. It's just a silly phase they're going through...

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Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit

Wait I've got another one! "Joxer the Mighty" is not a bop. Nobody likes that song.

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NotGuiLtyjustBAD@reddit

But he is very tidy.

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theseedbeader@reddit

Everybody likes him!

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ResponsibleDate9452@reddit

There was no subtext

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Meushell@reddit

To be fair, it wasn’t in the end. It was straight up text. 😂

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7Clarinetto9@reddit

More like gay up text. 😏

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Meushell@reddit

😂 True.

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RashannaAeryn@reddit

Xena and Gabrielle were just friends. Besties, but no more 😊

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pants207@reddit

Kevin Sorbo as Hercules should have been Xena’s main love interest so he could be in more episodes.

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Are you saying that someone else playing Hercules would have sufficed as one of Xena’s love interests? Lol.

No matter how much of a peanut Sorbs is, he and Lucy have such good chemistry (to me, and I guess a room full of execs who handled casting).

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SakuraTacos@reddit

I love Key to the Kingdom and I would’ve loved even more Xena/Gab-lite Meg episodes

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BlueSonic85@reddit

Is it bad that I genuinely think this?

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SakuraTacos@reddit

Nope cuz I also genuinely think this lol

And it always gets me downvoted by a buncha Mr. Stinkies but I don’t care! Meg is the best and they’re all missing out 🤗

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Hour_Dog_4781@reddit

Meg is awesome, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!

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magical_lasso@reddit

A buncha Mr. Stinkies lmao, this comment made me smile so big

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DameEris@reddit

No, join the Meg squad. We keep it real here. No Mr. Stinkies allowed lol

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FirebirdWriter@reddit

Nah. They're fun

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angelichorus@reddit

Haha I just watched that episode and loved it! The Joxer/Meg/Autolycus trio was a fun watch

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SakuraTacos@reddit

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Bwahah, another fan to join my ranks! Yes, you’re absolutely right, it is so much fun

Some might even call that episode a brilliant masterpiece (and by some I mean me 😇)

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New-Committee-9644@reddit

Xena and gabby are straight and are just each others soulmates, a soulmate doesn’t have to be romantic. Their love proved that to me . Don’t hate me because i still yell “ such a married couple” from time to time but i just think they were soulmates which is why i think that that goes beyond romance . We shouldn’t put love in boxes.

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GoblinQueenForever@reddit

Xena was too OP from the beginning and the show would have been far more interesting if she was allowed to grow and learn, rather than starting out as this unbeatable warrior/healer/acrobat/swordswoman/strategist with inhuman instincts and razer sharp intellect.

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Byanychance@reddit

To be fair we meet her at the point where she’s already learned those skills. The flashback episodes fill in the gaps

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Spokker@reddit

And in the flashbacks, she's a bit of a brat. She learns discipline through Lao Ma.

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Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit

It's why it's so incredibly entertaining to witness Gabrielle's growth not only as a warrior but as a leader. There were times I wished Xena wasn't so dang good at everything, but she does have many skills. She also has the benefit of having been trained and taught these skills by other formidable women. Lao Ma and M'Lila being two of them.

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NoPassenger8598@reddit

To be fair, all of the flashbacks show her learning her "unbeatable" skills & in the present she is learning & growing as well, only she's learning to be a good person & how to love, she's growing into a more balanced person.

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Ohhhh I big agree

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Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit

"Gabrielle is just a sidekick."

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pinkrangerash@reddit

They are just roommates 😂

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Ikenai_taiyo@reddit

With only one bedroll

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ClauzzieHowlbrance@reddit

Gabrielle shouldn't have forgiven Xena for Dahak.

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Agent8699@reddit

Married with Fishsticks is truly the very best episode of Xena ever made! 🧜‍♀️

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PaleontologistSad766@reddit

Ok I loved it so flay me alive 🤷😭🤣

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Agent8699@reddit

Evil Xena would be happy to do that!

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thewholebottle@reddit

I mean, Xena Warrior Podcast goes to great lengths to redeem it. I think this would be a good sort by controversial

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Agent8699@reddit

Oh, same for me. As far as an episode focusing on Gabrielle’s lingering guilt and regret about Hope and her fears about “mothering” Eve, MWF is NOT what I would have chosen.

But, it’s a very interesting interpretation, especially baby Roe being a near literal representation of a “demon” in appearance, etc.

Plus, all the “fear” associated with heteronormative relationships / structures, etc associated with the traditional / nuclear family.

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EBJ1990@reddit

They actually did a good job in making me rethink the episode, and I always love Alexandra Tydings/Aphrodite anyway.

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EBJ1990@reddit

I mainly enjoyed the podcast but they will never gaslight me into liking the finale! But of course if other per enjoy it that’s fine

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Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit

Idk about it being the best but I enjoyed it. The children creeped me out though...

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Pop_Stensbold@reddit

Its defintely in my top 20 seriously.

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SnurrCat@reddit

I wanted to downvote on impulse. Lol

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ZvsGrgs@reddit

“Xena’s soulmate is Hercules” 😆🥜

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daryl772003@reddit

And Gabrielle's is perdicus 😀

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ZvsGrgs@reddit

Or Iolaus.

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daryl772003@reddit

Double dating in ancient Greece

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SameClerk2608@reddit

That Xena is an overrated series or character.

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ObnoxiousConsistent@reddit

which ep is this gif from?

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badluckfarmer@reddit

I liked the ending.

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ObnoxiousConsistent@reddit

the only case where id upvote this is this exact post 🤣

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AgitationOfMind@reddit

I genuinely did 😬

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NoReach1699@reddit

Me too

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NoReach1699@reddit

I actually love it :)

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NoPassenger8598@reddit

Ouch! That could definitely do it.

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DarkGrimNature@reddit

Xena and Gaby were never in love. You guys are REACHING! 😂😂😂

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

lol triggered

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Korrasami_Enthusiast@reddit

Im not interested in a reboot or continuation of any kind, even if Lucy and Renee were to come back to it.

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tfc87ja@reddit

Xena and Gabrielle weren't gay for each other. They wanted to take dick every episode and xena loved being dicked down by hercules.

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Unfair-Turnip620@reddit

Right. And there's no possibility they're bisexual

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tfc87ja@reddit

I thought this was a thread about things that would lead to downvotes

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Byanychance@reddit

Saying Xena is bi unfortunately does lead to negativity … even though its so abundantly clear on the show

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Unfair-Turnip620@reddit

It is, and saying they can't be bisexual would lead to down votes too, right?

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

I unironically think Xena did like that lol

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iBrochacho@reddit

I can’t stand Gabrielle, I’d prefer her as a reoccurring instead of side lead, and I enjoyed when Xena dragged her by the horse

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iBrochacho@reddit

This is suppose to be a non judgmental community! Lololol

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TheCuri0usWatcher@reddit

🗣 Banned!

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daryl772003@reddit

Holy effing s**t

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Ooooof that’ll do it!

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daryl772003@reddit

Xena would be so much more attractive if she dressed more feminine 😆

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LilyofTheValley_7@reddit

I love Xena, buttttt she was toxic and messy af, especially to Gabrielle in season 3. She spent a lot of the series undermining her, and not taking her seriously in certain situations.

(Which I can understand to a certain extent cause Gabrielle was like 18-20 when the series started, but it got to a point.)

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Kikikakakoo@reddit

Would have been so much better with a male cast. Women can't fight.

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Meushell@reddit

Argo was just a dumb horse.

(Sorry, Argo! I don’t mean it! Don’t kick me!)

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Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit

Joxer and Gabrielle should've been endgame...Meg who? 😚

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gaykidkeyblader@reddit

I loved the entire Twilight of the Gods arc and Eve.

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badfortheenvironment@reddit

Pains me that either of these are controversial opinions

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Mighty_joosh@reddit

"If it was made today it would be called woke"

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NoPassenger8598@reddit

That's just true, unfortunately... XWP was well ahead of its time, in many arenas... Yet another reason I think a reboot would be awful. XWP was magic for/in its time & that's why even the youngest generations can enjoy it just as it is.

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Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit

I didn't think I would enjoy some of the filler eps as much as I did. The balance between the show being morbid and grim to it being silly and mundane is so special to me.

I do not think this show needs a reboot, it was truly lightening in a bottle. And I say this as someone who got into the show in her 20s like a year ago.

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GunstarHeroine@reddit

Xena and Hercules were the best couple

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Xena Hercules and Iolaus were the best throuple

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RunsWithGlueSticks@reddit

Look, they're just gals being pals, alright?

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

They’re reaalllllllllly close, that’s all

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ErisGirl28@reddit

Joxer was the best character.

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Overall_Sandwich_671@reddit

Xena should have dumped Gabrielle and married Ulysses.

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Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit

Ah, the best episode in the whole series!!

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NoPassenger8598@reddit

Oi! Those are fighting words!

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FunAd2968@reddit

The show sucks........(I love the show, just saying a fandom opinion that would get down voted into oblivion)

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Lakinther@reddit

Nah a simple comment like that is too easy to move on from

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PureMitten@reddit

Xena should have stayed just a character on Hercules, why did she even get a show? And if she had to have a show it should have just been the Twilight of the Gods arc, sans that annoying Gabrielle. Just Xena and Joxer against the gods, and then they end up together.

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Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit

Joxer is that you?? 😂

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Bookbringer@reddit

Those posts whining about realism always send me. Especially when they'll hone in on one thing as historically inaccurate or physically impossible. Like, Sir, this is a wuxia-inspired fantasy show set in a time of myth & legend. It's not supposed to accurately represent any era or natural law.

Actual downvote-bait opinion I hold:

Hope absolutely had a capacity for goodness. She selflessly loved her monster child and earnestly wanted the approval of her mother. XenaGab raising her would have been so much better.

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IseQween@reddit

I learned a new word I actually like -- "wuxia." Thanks!

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Haha I know aren’t we all supposed to laugh at the absurd inaccuracy??

I agree with that opinion, that would have made SUCH a strong storyline!

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itsascreambaby96@reddit

I'm not a huge fan of When Fates Collide, it's a remix of The Ides of March only with Alti instead of Callisto.

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Pop_Stensbold@reddit

actually thats partly how I feel about that ep actually

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TakiTakiWakiWaki@reddit

Callisto is overrated

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angelholme@reddit

Gabrielle and Xena are not hot for each other.

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Nike-316@reddit

"Callisto was the worst character of the show" would probably have someone kicked out of the fandom.

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Nike-316@reddit

"Xena had some of the least attractive women to ever grace a tv screen" would definitely sound strange to all the fans.

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Substantial-List-632@reddit

an all male cast remake

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RunsWithGlueSticks@reddit

😆😆 This would do it

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Substantial-List-632@reddit

staring kevin heart and the rock

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

Wait actually …. 😅

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DuchessSwan@reddit

i actually enjoyed the series finale…

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itsascreambaby96@reddit

It's not a bad episode on its own but for the show to end on that note it's cruel to the characters and a slap in the face to the fans who watched them for six years

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FirebirdWriter@reddit

People upvoted me for this one. Its probably helpful that I don't hold it as the end in my brain and don't pretend it's not flawed but I'm a vacuum it's well done. I just also prefer it to not be The End

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Seed0fDiscord@reddit

They’re just straight, there’s an entirely heterosexual explanation for everything (not my opinion)

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koiivy@reddit (OP)

lol I love that you couldn’t even pretend

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