What’s a Xena fandom opinion that would cause this?
Posted by koiivy@reddit | xena | View on Reddit | 150 comments
It can be your unpopular opinion, or just a random opinion you know would be unpopular.
This is more of a game, whether or not it’s truthful is up to you!
Sithstress_@reddit
I’ve just realized I really need to rewatch Xena. Haven’t since it was airing but I loved that show. I used to do her yell when I was going flips on the trampoline 🤣.
anglosassin@reddit
If there is one thing I love more than Lucy Lawless, it is Kevin Sorbo.
(Wow, it caused me physical pain to write that.)
DeedleStone@reddit
It's not just his incredible range as an actor, it's his wonderful personality. Never before have I met such a humble, caring, open-minded person. He made me believe in God not by preaching, but by allowing me to see his God-given smile.
AtheistVeganWitch@reddit
whaaaa?
Sithstress_@reddit
They forgot the /s the end. Lmao
Dark-Lark@reddit
Okay but really, seeing some of the spats between Kevin Sorbo and Lucy Lawless online are good.
Everyone should have the freedom to have a bad take on something, if only so others can poke fun at it.
Popular-One-7051@reddit
😂😂😂
NoPassenger8598@reddit
Oof...yuck.. Yuck, yuck, yuck.
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Lmao I think you are the first person so ever write that sentence
ShadowProclamation15@reddit
Almost downvoted on reflex 😆
Narrow_Currency_1877@reddit
Eve was a better character on the show than anyone, even better than Xena.
(My fingers just tried to break themselves typing that)
TypesAndPatterns@reddit
In terms of fanfic potential, this is absolutely true. They planned a lot more for her, in a future series, but ran out of time. Most of her story is still untold.
DameEris@reddit
Hercules and Xena were meant to be
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Everyone’s a hater 😅😫
DameEris@reddit
Lmao I had to. I saw this one shipper (who was obviously more of a Hercules fan) that got so much hate that I felt bad for them. They weren't being any kind of phobic. They were just romantic for the redemption arc. This is sympathy lol
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Honestly I feel like that shipper was me 😅 I vaguely remember your user name from the interaction hehe. I’m definitely not more of a Herc fan though. I’ll gladly take the sympathy, the Xena/Hercules shipping road is a lonely one! lol
DameEris@reddit
Maybe it was! I really suck with names. Also, you made me sentimental and I found Hercules season 1 on sale. I just rewatched The Gauntlet and Untamed Heart this past Sunday.
The perspective you presented seemed more Hercules focused. That isn't a criticism. Narratively it makes sense at that time in the story. I didn't realize before that Xena was the first woman Herc had slept with since Daenera
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Oh I love that! How did you enjoy the rewatch? I think Hercules season one is such a fun watch.
Ahhh I see what you mean now, I’ve never thought about that but yeah I do think more from Hercules’s perspective - I think that’s because I’m so taken by Xena that I put myself in the mind of the person admiring her rather than being her, if that makes sense lol.
Yeah, sleeping with Xena was super significant in his story. He had turned down Lyla, who looked just like Xena, saying that sex for him had to really mean something and be worth the risk of pregnancy. So it definitely gives his decision with Xena extra weight.
DameEris@reddit
Yeah, it was fun actually. After listening to Alexandra Tydings talk about Kevin's good side on Xena Warrior Nutballs, it was like being able to watch through innocent eyes again. There are a few episodes I had never seen before, like the two other episodes in the middle of the Xena Trilogy lol
And yeah, I remember that line just a few episodes before. It does make the not working out even more of a heartbreak. However, I do come from more of a Xena frame of mind. I understand why she had to walk away and why it broke her heart.
And please don't misunderstand my "Xena frame of mind." It's not a fan measuring contest. I mean that as a woman who has practiced martial arts and grew up in a military family. I literally identify with a strategic, disciplined, personal honor sort of mindset. I know what it is like to play hard with the boys, etc. Still haven't found my Gabrielle though lol
Evilbuffy14@reddit
I'm sorry, y'all. I've upvoted so many of your great 'suggestions', but I gotta stop now. I'm off to shower, throw up and burn my clothes.
7Clarinetto9@reddit
You're gonna throw up after the shower? What if you get it all over you?
Evilbuffy14@reddit
Lmao. I'll change the order.
LaurenInStereo119@reddit
Gabrielle should have been with Joxer.
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I don't actually think so, I like ragebaiting
DameEris@reddit
This post dared you to sarcastically rage bait lol
Latte-Catte@reddit
That the subtextual nature of their relationship adds not detract from it. And people rightfully can speculate whether they're lovers or just really good friends as much as they please.
The comedy episodes were just Lucy being herself lol
I prefer season 1 - season 3 Xena, Xena changed and became other worldly in season 4. Nothing wrong with that.
Agent8699@reddit
Xena deserved to die and stay dead 😵
She shouldn’t have enjoyed six years of adventuring, comedic hijinks and bed roll snuggles with a cute blonde with killer abs after everything she had done.
SakuraTacos@reddit
Really, since she was supposed to die on Hercules before we even got to Xena: Warrior Princess, the finale was like “Ugh finally! I’ve been waiting ages for her to get what’s coming!” Think of how much time we would’ve saved if they just wouldn’t have even bothered making XWP at all!
Agent8699@reddit
OMG! I know!
It’s like, what a waste of time? They could have made a spinoff with Falafel and instead they chosen Xena?!
theseedbeader@reddit
Omg, Falafel… that’s a character I haven’t thought about in a while.
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
yeah she really deserved it for trying to come between those beloved boys!
Agent8699@reddit
Just let them enjoy their near naked, sweaty sword play in privacy! ⚔️
timthemajestic@reddit
They're not in love.
magical_lasso@reddit
Just gals being pals
theseedbeader@reddit
Girls being friends
wayne-on-reddit@reddit
So don't forget it. It's just a silly phase they're going through...
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
Wait I've got another one! "Joxer the Mighty" is not a bop. Nobody likes that song.
NotGuiLtyjustBAD@reddit
But he is very tidy.
theseedbeader@reddit
Everybody likes him!
ResponsibleDate9452@reddit
There was no subtext
Meushell@reddit
To be fair, it wasn’t in the end. It was straight up text. 😂
7Clarinetto9@reddit
More like gay up text. 😏
Meushell@reddit
😂 True.
RashannaAeryn@reddit
Xena and Gabrielle were just friends. Besties, but no more 😊
pants207@reddit
Kevin Sorbo as Hercules should have been Xena’s main love interest so he could be in more episodes.
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Are you saying that someone else playing Hercules would have sufficed as one of Xena’s love interests? Lol.
No matter how much of a peanut Sorbs is, he and Lucy have such good chemistry (to me, and I guess a room full of execs who handled casting).
SakuraTacos@reddit
I love Key to the Kingdom and I would’ve loved even more Xena/Gab-lite Meg episodes
BlueSonic85@reddit
Is it bad that I genuinely think this?
SakuraTacos@reddit
Nope cuz I also genuinely think this lol
And it always gets me downvoted by a buncha Mr. Stinkies but I don’t care! Meg is the best and they’re all missing out 🤗
Hour_Dog_4781@reddit
Meg is awesome, don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
magical_lasso@reddit
A buncha Mr. Stinkies lmao, this comment made me smile so big
DameEris@reddit
No, join the Meg squad. We keep it real here. No Mr. Stinkies allowed lol
FirebirdWriter@reddit
Nah. They're fun
angelichorus@reddit
Haha I just watched that episode and loved it! The Joxer/Meg/Autolycus trio was a fun watch
SakuraTacos@reddit
Bwahah, another fan to join my ranks! Yes, you’re absolutely right, it is so much fun
Some might even call that episode a brilliant masterpiece (and by some I mean me 😇)
New-Committee-9644@reddit
Xena and gabby are straight and are just each others soulmates, a soulmate doesn’t have to be romantic. Their love proved that to me . Don’t hate me because i still yell “ such a married couple” from time to time but i just think they were soulmates which is why i think that that goes beyond romance . We shouldn’t put love in boxes.
GoblinQueenForever@reddit
Xena was too OP from the beginning and the show would have been far more interesting if she was allowed to grow and learn, rather than starting out as this unbeatable warrior/healer/acrobat/swordswoman/strategist with inhuman instincts and razer sharp intellect.
Byanychance@reddit
To be fair we meet her at the point where she’s already learned those skills. The flashback episodes fill in the gaps
Spokker@reddit
And in the flashbacks, she's a bit of a brat. She learns discipline through Lao Ma.
Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit
It's why it's so incredibly entertaining to witness Gabrielle's growth not only as a warrior but as a leader. There were times I wished Xena wasn't so dang good at everything, but she does have many skills. She also has the benefit of having been trained and taught these skills by other formidable women. Lao Ma and M'Lila being two of them.
NoPassenger8598@reddit
To be fair, all of the flashbacks show her learning her "unbeatable" skills & in the present she is learning & growing as well, only she's learning to be a good person & how to love, she's growing into a more balanced person.
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Ohhhh I big agree
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
"Gabrielle is just a sidekick."
pinkrangerash@reddit
They are just roommates 😂
Ikenai_taiyo@reddit
With only one bedroll
ClauzzieHowlbrance@reddit
Gabrielle shouldn't have forgiven Xena for Dahak.
Agent8699@reddit
Married with Fishsticks is truly the very best episode of Xena ever made! 🧜♀️
PaleontologistSad766@reddit
Ok I loved it so flay me alive 🤷😭🤣
Agent8699@reddit
Evil Xena would be happy to do that!
thewholebottle@reddit
I mean, Xena Warrior Podcast goes to great lengths to redeem it. I think this would be a good sort by controversial
Agent8699@reddit
Oh, same for me. As far as an episode focusing on Gabrielle’s lingering guilt and regret about Hope and her fears about “mothering” Eve, MWF is NOT what I would have chosen.
But, it’s a very interesting interpretation, especially baby Roe being a near literal representation of a “demon” in appearance, etc.
Plus, all the “fear” associated with heteronormative relationships / structures, etc associated with the traditional / nuclear family.
EBJ1990@reddit
They actually did a good job in making me rethink the episode, and I always love Alexandra Tydings/Aphrodite anyway.
EBJ1990@reddit
I mainly enjoyed the podcast but they will never gaslight me into liking the finale! But of course if other per enjoy it that’s fine
Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit
Idk about it being the best but I enjoyed it. The children creeped me out though...
Pop_Stensbold@reddit
Its defintely in my top 20 seriously.
SnurrCat@reddit
I wanted to downvote on impulse. Lol
ZvsGrgs@reddit
“Xena’s soulmate is Hercules” 😆🥜
daryl772003@reddit
And Gabrielle's is perdicus 😀
ZvsGrgs@reddit
Or Iolaus.
daryl772003@reddit
Double dating in ancient Greece
SameClerk2608@reddit
That Xena is an overrated series or character.
ObnoxiousConsistent@reddit
which ep is this gif from?
badluckfarmer@reddit
I liked the ending.
ObnoxiousConsistent@reddit
the only case where id upvote this is this exact post 🤣
AgitationOfMind@reddit
I genuinely did 😬
NoReach1699@reddit
Me too
NoReach1699@reddit
I actually love it :)
NoPassenger8598@reddit
Ouch! That could definitely do it.
DarkGrimNature@reddit
Xena and Gaby were never in love. You guys are REACHING! 😂😂😂
koiivy@reddit (OP)
lol triggered
Korrasami_Enthusiast@reddit
Im not interested in a reboot or continuation of any kind, even if Lucy and Renee were to come back to it.
tfc87ja@reddit
Xena and Gabrielle weren't gay for each other. They wanted to take dick every episode and xena loved being dicked down by hercules.
Unfair-Turnip620@reddit
Right. And there's no possibility they're bisexual
tfc87ja@reddit
I thought this was a thread about things that would lead to downvotes
Byanychance@reddit
Saying Xena is bi unfortunately does lead to negativity … even though its so abundantly clear on the show
Unfair-Turnip620@reddit
It is, and saying they can't be bisexual would lead to down votes too, right?
koiivy@reddit (OP)
I unironically think Xena did like that lol
iBrochacho@reddit
I can’t stand Gabrielle, I’d prefer her as a reoccurring instead of side lead, and I enjoyed when Xena dragged her by the horse
iBrochacho@reddit
This is suppose to be a non judgmental community! Lololol
TheCuri0usWatcher@reddit
🗣 Banned!
daryl772003@reddit
Holy effing s**t
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Ooooof that’ll do it!
daryl772003@reddit
Xena would be so much more attractive if she dressed more feminine 😆
LilyofTheValley_7@reddit
I love Xena, buttttt she was toxic and messy af, especially to Gabrielle in season 3. She spent a lot of the series undermining her, and not taking her seriously in certain situations.
(Which I can understand to a certain extent cause Gabrielle was like 18-20 when the series started, but it got to a point.)
Kikikakakoo@reddit
Would have been so much better with a male cast. Women can't fight.
Meushell@reddit
Argo was just a dumb horse.
(Sorry, Argo! I don’t mean it! Don’t kick me!)
Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit
Joxer and Gabrielle should've been endgame...Meg who? 😚
gaykidkeyblader@reddit
I loved the entire Twilight of the Gods arc and Eve.
badfortheenvironment@reddit
Pains me that either of these are controversial opinions
Mighty_joosh@reddit
"If it was made today it would be called woke"
NoPassenger8598@reddit
That's just true, unfortunately... XWP was well ahead of its time, in many arenas... Yet another reason I think a reboot would be awful. XWP was magic for/in its time & that's why even the youngest generations can enjoy it just as it is.
Ok_Kangaroo_2160@reddit
I didn't think I would enjoy some of the filler eps as much as I did. The balance between the show being morbid and grim to it being silly and mundane is so special to me.
I do not think this show needs a reboot, it was truly lightening in a bottle. And I say this as someone who got into the show in her 20s like a year ago.
GunstarHeroine@reddit
Xena and Hercules were the best couple
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Xena Hercules and Iolaus were the best throuple
RunsWithGlueSticks@reddit
Look, they're just gals being pals, alright?
koiivy@reddit (OP)
They’re reaalllllllllly close, that’s all
ErisGirl28@reddit
Joxer was the best character.
Overall_Sandwich_671@reddit
Xena should have dumped Gabrielle and married Ulysses.
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
Ah, the best episode in the whole series!!
NoPassenger8598@reddit
Oi! Those are fighting words!
FunAd2968@reddit
The show sucks........(I love the show, just saying a fandom opinion that would get down voted into oblivion)
Lakinther@reddit
Nah a simple comment like that is too easy to move on from
PureMitten@reddit
Xena should have stayed just a character on Hercules, why did she even get a show? And if she had to have a show it should have just been the Twilight of the Gods arc, sans that annoying Gabrielle. Just Xena and Joxer against the gods, and then they end up together.
Ok-Jackfruit-6873@reddit
Joxer is that you?? 😂
Bookbringer@reddit
Those posts whining about realism always send me. Especially when they'll hone in on one thing as historically inaccurate or physically impossible. Like, Sir, this is a wuxia-inspired fantasy show set in a time of myth & legend. It's not supposed to accurately represent any era or natural law.
Actual downvote-bait opinion I hold:
Hope absolutely had a capacity for goodness. She selflessly loved her monster child and earnestly wanted the approval of her mother. XenaGab raising her would have been so much better.
IseQween@reddit
I learned a new word I actually like -- "wuxia." Thanks!
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Haha I know aren’t we all supposed to laugh at the absurd inaccuracy??
I agree with that opinion, that would have made SUCH a strong storyline!
itsascreambaby96@reddit
I'm not a huge fan of When Fates Collide, it's a remix of The Ides of March only with Alti instead of Callisto.
Pop_Stensbold@reddit
actually thats partly how I feel about that ep actually
TakiTakiWakiWaki@reddit
Callisto is overrated
angelholme@reddit
Gabrielle and Xena are not hot for each other.
Nike-316@reddit
"Callisto was the worst character of the show" would probably have someone kicked out of the fandom.
Nike-316@reddit
"Xena had some of the least attractive women to ever grace a tv screen" would definitely sound strange to all the fans.
Substantial-List-632@reddit
an all male cast remake
RunsWithGlueSticks@reddit
😆😆 This would do it
Substantial-List-632@reddit
staring kevin heart and the rock
koiivy@reddit (OP)
Wait actually …. 😅
DuchessSwan@reddit
i actually enjoyed the series finale…
itsascreambaby96@reddit
It's not a bad episode on its own but for the show to end on that note it's cruel to the characters and a slap in the face to the fans who watched them for six years
FirebirdWriter@reddit
People upvoted me for this one. Its probably helpful that I don't hold it as the end in my brain and don't pretend it's not flawed but I'm a vacuum it's well done. I just also prefer it to not be The End
Seed0fDiscord@reddit
They’re just straight, there’s an entirely heterosexual explanation for everything (not my opinion)
koiivy@reddit (OP)
lol I love that you couldn’t even pretend
MaggieBarnes@reddit
Hercules was a far superior show and gave Xena too much screen time. Reboot Hercules without Xena
EBJ1990@reddit
Najara did not speak English, she only spoke the truth.
EasyEntrepreneur666@reddit
Xena and Gabrielle are just veery good friends.
triddell24@reddit
The show was never able to reach the height of Hercules. Just like how Frasier was inferior to Cheers.
TumultuousVirgo@reddit
That we are ready for a reboot or continuation.
Mrblorg@reddit
Xena died a good death and shouldn't be spared or denied a warrior's death because she's gay. She's a warrior first and foremost
Shadowettex31_x@reddit
They were never lovers, but just had a really deep friendship. And that’s ok.
Yuleogy@reddit
The show went on too long. The first season was all we needed, tbh.
howdidigetoverhere@reddit
Gabby and Joxer were lovers