Here is my interpretation of what the author meant by this question.
1.) I fully understand where everyone is coming from by saying that the coefficient of lift must be increased because a reduction in speed of the air flowing over the wing. But, I feel as if the reason to WHY or HOW the aircraft gains its speed is irrelevant to the question.
2.) The author may of been trying to get at since you reduced power, the air being accelerated by the prop is taken away. This results in a reduction in tail downforce which causes the nose to drop. This makes a pitching up action needed to maintain level flight even if airspeed was to magically increase.
Essentially, even though an increase in airspeed would require a reduction in AoA, the required AoA for level flight WITHOUT engine power would still be a little bit higher than the required AoA WITH engine power. solely because of the lack of accelerated air over the horizontal stabilizer.
3.) this question is vague, I woulda answered it wrong. I only came to this conclusion after seeing the “right” answer.
There is a decent chance that a wing that sees reduced power will see increased speed, because the loss of energy will start a descent. You might expect speed to reduce, but if AOA is constant through the power reduction, the wing sees the loss of energy as reduced induced drag and keeps the speed by descending. As dynamic pressure increases with increased density in the descent, it might go faster. If you do nothing, the wing will hunt for an altitude that matches the energy required for that specific AOA, and either stabilizes at a new altitude or encounters an obstacle. If you increase AOA, you keep the altitude and give up the speed to match the energy required.
Your intuition may come from surface vehicles (cars, boats) where reducing power always leads to a speed reduction, because none of the energy goes to lift. For a wing, a lot of the energy goes to lift, so removing energy reduces lift, and both the altitude enhancing and the backwards-directed parts of the lift are reduced. “Pitch for speed, power for glideslope” isn’t just a slogan, it’s a hopelessly incomplete description of what the wing is doing.
I would say C - if you reduce power and speed is increasing you must be going down (gravity is what is increasing your speed). To stop that you need to increase your angle of attack to maintain altitude.
I suspect you're missing the effect of the aircraft's AoA stability, in there. Reducing power on any light aircraft I know, does not lead to an increase in airspeed as a result.
Agreed. This is a place which "is required to maintain altitude" which means indefinitely. Answers A B C are all incompatible with a power reduction and level flight.
I just don't see the remaining answer as being a practical course of action for any length of time. Maybe it is in the context of extending flaps in the pattern.
Not the ones I had. They were very clear. If you knew the material, the answers were obvious. But you did have to FULLY understand the material -- not just memorize things.
My written tests were very clear. And the practice test booklets I bought, w/ answers & explanations, were very similar and/or identical to the real FAA test questions. This example provided by OP is beyond belief!
Don’t worry, as someone who designs and certifies airplane aerodynamics and has been on more wind tunnel and flight tests than I can count, this is a terribly worded question.
THANK YOU!! I have an advanced degree w/ honors, in languages, & taught at the university level for a decade, & I had to read this question multiple times AND its poorly written answer choices & came up w/ the same conclusion as you! This test must be British, etc., bc no one in the U.S. would write "aeroplane" & "whilst"! Thank God my writtens were in plain English!!
THANK YOU!! I have an advanced degree w/ honors, in languages, & taught at the university level for a decade, & I had to read this question multiple times AND its poorly written answer choices & came up w/ the same conclusion as you! This test must be British, etc., bc no one in the U.S. would write "aeroplane" & "whilst"! Thank God my writtens were in plain English!!
If you reduce power, then speed will reduce. If speed reduces, you need to increase something else to maintain enough lift to keep constant altitude, which is the coefficient of lift - either through increase of AoA, or changing configuration (more flaps).
Yes, these tests often also test your level of English comprehension. Always read the question carefully - if you are maintaing altitude while reducing power, something has to give.
With all due respect, of which language are you a "native speaker"? Because if you understood it just fine the first time...your native tongue must not be English, as spoken in the U.S. We don't even use "aeroplane" & "whilst". I'm a former university professor of multiple languages & in no one's estimation would this question or the answer choices be deemed good or proper English.
You did admit that "it's not worded the most intuitively". Not sure what you mean by "intuitively" in this context bc test questions should be written as clearly as possible, leaving no doubt as to what is meant. No one should have to intuit anything! The answer choices are written even worse than the question!
Sure, but if you're not functionally illiterate you should be able to figure out what it means. Which I could, easily. Surely a former university professor can understand what I'm saying?
I'm far from "functionally illiterate". And if you can't tell that from my comments, then that description must fit you. I graduated w/ Distinction w/ a 4.0 GPA, & was a university language professor of multiple languages for a decade. I also passed my writtens w/ "flying colors". Additionally, I'm a published author of several aviation articles. Your use of the adverb, "intuitively", does not make sense in this context as I CLEARLY explained. Test questions & answers should be well-written & crystal clear. This example is not. And MANY commenters here have acknowledged that fact.
You did admit that "it's not worded the most intuitively". Not sure what you mean by "intuitively" in this context, though, bc test questions should be written as clearly as possible, leaving no doubt as to what is being asked. No one should have to intuit anything! The answer choices are written even more poorly than the question!
I just said those exact words to my daughter re this scenario. NONE of my tests in the good ol' U S of A used "aeroplane" & "whilst"! So this would likely test your level of British English comprehension!
This isn't always true. For constant-altitude flight, you can reduce drag power (and thus engine power) by moving closer to Vy. If you were flying on the backside of the power curve (e.g. Vx), then reducing power requires increasing speed towards Vy.
From cruise speed this is true.
Very bad question, or arguably, the question is alright but these suggested answers are horrible
This is a TERRIBLE question, quite possibly the worst I have ever seen, and that is saying something. The correct answer is none of the above.
There are three problems with the question as posed. First is that it says that the airplane is required to maintain a constant altitude, but it does not say that it actually does. Second, it doesn't tell you what the initial conditions are. Are you initially in level flight? Coming out of a spin? In an updraft? Third, the answers are in the form of conditionals, and the conditions in the first three answers are counterfactuals.
Let's assume, since the question says that the airplane is "required to maintain a constant altitude" that it is initially in level flight. Now, as specified, you reduce power. By the book, two things must happen to maintain altitude: the angle of attack must increase, and the airspeed must decrease. But is this actually true in reality? No! Lots of other things could be going on. You could be behind the power curve. You could have hit an updraft. You could be recovering from a spin (that would make reducing power make sense) or engaged in some other aerobatic maneuver. You could have gotten caught in an alien tractor beam. The question doesn't say, so you have to start making assumptions. A reasonable set of assumptions is that initially you are in level, steady-state flight, ahead of the power curve, and no updrafts or alien tractor beams. So if you reduce power, to maintain altitude you have to increase the angle of attack, which will slow you down.
The problem with answer C is that it has a conditional: "If speed is increased." But we already know (under our reasonable assumptions) that speed will decrease. So either this answer is a counterfactual, or we have to start making different assumptions. But the question provides no guidance about what kinds of assumptions we are allowed to make. It really is equivalent to, "an increase in angle of attack must be made if you are caught in an alien tractor beam." The first part is correct -- the angle of attack must increase. But the condition makes the answer non-sensical (under reasonable assumptions) and therefore not correct.
Answers A and B are likewise counterfactuals. Speed will not increase, and angle of attack cannot be reduced under the specified conditions. Answer D is not a counterfactual because the condition, "If power is reduced" is already specified in the question, so this is equivalent to simply saying, "Maximum flap should be used to increase the lift." This is actually a not-entirely-indefensible answer. Adding flaps actually will help you maintain altitude, but only for a very short time before the extra drag slows you down to the point where you stall. So "should" you do this? Probably not.
Whoever wrote this question, and whoever signed off on including it in whatever test you are taking, should be fired.
I reasoned in a similar fashion as you -- absent the "alien tractor beam" -- & came up w/ choice D as the one that would be true, given the info in the question. And, like what you said, I explained to my daughter that a stall would ensue. It's unconscionable that this question & its answer choices passed muster w/ someone!!
No, absolutely not. In fact, if you are in steady-state level flight and you increase power and do nothing else, you will actually slow down (and begin to climb). You can even end up in a power-on stall this way.
Fair enough, I should have said you can slow down, not that you will. But this has been the case for every airplane I've ever flown. Is there actually a GA aircraft for which this is not true?
Question is asked in a stupid way but yeah the answer is C. Pilot exams seem to always feel like more of an English comprehension exam than one that tests your actual knowledge of the subject unfortunately
I don't see how the answer is C, first higher speed requires a lower AOA not a higher one (as a standalone fact) plus the question states a level flight power reduction in the antecedent which should render what to do if speed increases moot because speed will not be increasing.
An "aeroplane which is required to maintain a constant altitude" never descends. And your statement that AoA needs to be increased isn't true. If you maintain altitude at 3° AoA at 80 knots then you need less (not more) than 3° at more than 80 knots no matter if descending or otherwise.
You’re overthinking this. The question is worded badly, and you have to be able to try and understand what they actually mean
The airplane is required to maintain a constant altitude, but it doesn’t mean they actually are. The answers are attempting to fix an airplane that has already deviated from the desired altitude
Like questions that will say.
About the axis
Or along the axis.
I keep mixing then up. It’s not because I’m not understanding which motion the airplane makes it’s just because I have literally never used the word “about” something in my life 🤣🤣
It’s C. If you’re reducing power but speed in increasing, that means you’re pointing down and so need to increase angle of attack to slow down. Remember that generally power affects altitude and the elevator/attitude affects speed.
A would just increase your speed further as your trading height for speed.
B is the opposite of cause and effect.
D is kinda wrong. Increasing flap will increase your lift as well as drag but it’s never something you just go for when reducing power but wanting to keep altitude. Especially maximum flap.
It's not C. Answers B and C are both untrue in almost every flying context regardless of the question. They are essentially the same answer except B reduces lift twice (AoA-, speed-) while C increases lift twice (AoA+, speed+).
Only answer A has mixed effects on pigt of speed and AoA (AoA-, speed+) that have a chance of maintaining altitude like the question demands. However the speed effect (speed+) is incompatible with the question's supposition, that of a level flight power reduction.
By process of elimination, only answer D remains. There is a context where extending flaps is the answer... preparing for landing. I think the question is hinting at a situation where you're slowing down to land and you want to extend flaps gracefully. You reduce power but don't increase AoA to compensate... extend flaps instead. Now you can maintain your traffic pattern level flight while accomplishing the flap change.
Otherwise it's true extending flaps is rarely the troubleshooting solution when the desire is to maintain altitude especially given a voluntary power reduction.
It’s a terrible question, but it’s C. This is their logic:
If you reduce power and end up increasing airspeed, that means you are pitched down and losing altitude. You must increase your AOA to stay at your desired altitude
Will you actually be able to maintain that altitude over time? Maybe? We don’t know how much power they reduced
The airplane is required to maintain a constant altitude, but it doesn’t mean they actually are. The answers are attempting to fix an airplane that has already deviated from the desired altitude. In the case of the correct answer C, you have already lost altitude and you have to increase AOA and climb to return to the altitude you were supposed to maintain.
It’s badly worded question that requires guessing what they mean
Well the correct answer is C. And the only way that’s possible is if you increased airspeed from pitching down and losing altitude. This is why I am saying it’s a badly worded question
The answer the test maker picked is C, but it's incorrect. They messed up this question in a big way. It's a stupid question that even the person who wrote it doesn't understand.
While I agree it is a very poorly worded question, the test taker selected A and the most correct answer is C as @captain_sheppard noted. Airspeed climbing after reducing power should be an indication for the pilot to look at the VSI/Altimeter and take action. Nine times out of ten the required action will be to increase the angle of attack to stop the descent (and maintain the altitude). IF you wanted to return to the previous altitude, you would need to increase the angle of attack a little more but the question only asks for you to maintain level flight at the lower power setting.
Your speed doesn't increase in the question. The answer with "if speed is increased" is not relevant to the question because the if condition is false. It would be the same as a situation with a question about takeoff and an answer had the condition "when landing, you should...". If the statement in a possible answer is true on its own (or not) is neither here nor there.
The question requires you to maintain altitude, so it's not C. It's impossible to increase angle of attack AND increase airspeed AND maintain altitude. B and C are aerodynamically impossible, full stop.
A is true aerodynamically, but there's no explanation for what's causing your speed to increase despite reducing power so I would hesitate to choose it.
D could also be true. If you're slow enough and slow further, you might need flaps to maintain altitude. But soon you'd slow enough to be behind the power curve and need to add power to maintain altitude.
D is the only one that's at least true without weird external factors for a period of time.
You can control just two of them, speed (V), and at a certain point, CL (via angle of atack or flaps). The others are fixed by plane's design and atmospheric conditions (wing surface, air density).
It is an equation, so it has to be an equality. If you increase a value, you must decrease another one (or viceversa) to keep that equality and reach the same result (L, lift). As you are allowed to change just two of them via flight controls (CL and V), going back to your question, if you reduce power or speed (V) you have to increase angle of attack (CL), in case you want to keep the same altitude (L). If you do not maintain that equality, you start a climb or a descent.
C is correct inc angle of attack to maintain current alt. Speed will decrease . Normal angle of attack for cruise speed is about 13 degrees. Stall will happen at around 17 degrees as u slow down and maintain alt. U increase pitch and u if trying maintain a constant speed slow flight will require more power because u are on back side of power curve.
Not only is the question horribly worded, if you assume it was written correctly, then there is no correct answer.
If you assume it was written wrong (missing a comma or two), there still is no correct answer
Well if you want to maintain altitude, you need to ensure that drag power is not more than engine power.
And if you want to maintain altitude and reduce engine power, then you also need to reduce drag power -- that is, fly closer to Vy.
a) is true in general, altho one can move closer to Vy from either side.
b) is always false for fixed wing pilots. (the load is always 1g, so less speed means more aoa [until you stall. pls dont stall]).
c) is also always false for fixed wing pilots. since the load is always 1g, a speed increase means a less aoa. (loosely speaking, load is proportional to the square of IAS times the AoA [when away from the stall].)
d) is essentially always false. maximum flaps for any sane transport plane means an increase in drag power, which means an increase in engine power.
Not to be condescending, but the answer is clearly C, and there is no confusion here. The question specifically states while "REDUCING POWER". It's what needs to happen to attitude and nothing else. Although both A&B are correct statements, they are incorrect regarding what is being asked.
C is the instinctual answer you ingrained from learning slow-flight, but if you aren't reintroducing any power then that altitude will ultimately be lost or you will slow to a stall. D is the best option to increase lift with a lower power setting.
Unsure why everyone is saying C unless I’m completely misunderstanding the question.
If an aircraft increases speed in straight and level flight, then AoA needs to reduce otherwise it’ll generate more lift, and no longer be maintaining altitude. The only answer that makes sense is A.
C. Because if speed is increasing you need to reduce the speed while also maintaining the altitude, so you increase the AoA (pull up) to convert the kinetic energy into potential energy.
Doesn't the question say you should maintain altitude? If you reduce power (as it says) your induced drag is higher to maintain altitude, thus MORE aoa?
increase AoA = more AoA = pull up = pitch up = nose up
Even without being inverted, these are not all equal. For instance, you can simultaneously pitch down while increasing AoA. Just requires that your ballistic trajectory is dropping more steeply than the nose is.
That's not some implausible gotcha, either - its a common state in many light aircraft around the stall.
Yes, but it says there is a power reduction in the question, so you agree less, not more AoA is needed if power is increased? Choice C says increase AoA if power is increased?
100% I’ve read the book. Watched the videos only then did my mock exams.
Now just trying to focus on the things I will get wrong sometimes.
Which unfortunately seems to be reading hahaha
Tiny-Scheme-2233@reddit
Here is my interpretation of what the author meant by this question. 1.) I fully understand where everyone is coming from by saying that the coefficient of lift must be increased because a reduction in speed of the air flowing over the wing. But, I feel as if the reason to WHY or HOW the aircraft gains its speed is irrelevant to the question. 2.) The author may of been trying to get at since you reduced power, the air being accelerated by the prop is taken away. This results in a reduction in tail downforce which causes the nose to drop. This makes a pitching up action needed to maintain level flight even if airspeed was to magically increase. Essentially, even though an increase in airspeed would require a reduction in AoA, the required AoA for level flight WITHOUT engine power would still be a little bit higher than the required AoA WITH engine power. solely because of the lack of accelerated air over the horizontal stabilizer. 3.) this question is vague, I woulda answered it wrong. I only came to this conclusion after seeing the “right” answer.
Worldly-Alternative5@reddit
There is a decent chance that a wing that sees reduced power will see increased speed, because the loss of energy will start a descent. You might expect speed to reduce, but if AOA is constant through the power reduction, the wing sees the loss of energy as reduced induced drag and keeps the speed by descending. As dynamic pressure increases with increased density in the descent, it might go faster. If you do nothing, the wing will hunt for an altitude that matches the energy required for that specific AOA, and either stabilizes at a new altitude or encounters an obstacle. If you increase AOA, you keep the altitude and give up the speed to match the energy required.
Your intuition may come from surface vehicles (cars, boats) where reducing power always leads to a speed reduction, because none of the energy goes to lift. For a wing, a lot of the energy goes to lift, so removing energy reduces lift, and both the altitude enhancing and the backwards-directed parts of the lift are reduced. “Pitch for speed, power for glideslope” isn’t just a slogan, it’s a hopelessly incomplete description of what the wing is doing.
VitoRazoR@reddit
I would say C - if you reduce power and speed is increasing you must be going down (gravity is what is increasing your speed). To stop that you need to increase your angle of attack to maintain altitude.
primalbluewolf@reddit
The question is explicit - the aeroplane is required to maintain altitude. Any answer that assumes descent is not consistent with the question.
It's D. The plane is reducing power and maintaining altitude.
VitoRazoR@reddit
I am not sure - if you pop your flaps the plane will balloon and gain altitude if you don't change your AoA
primalbluewolf@reddit
Okay. So how would you propose to maintain altitude whilst reducing power, and increase speed?
VitoRazoR@reddit
C only requires 1 change - an increase in AoA, ie pulling the stick slightly. D requires 2 changes: flaps out and pushing on the stick.
primalbluewolf@reddit
How'd you increase speed without adjusting AoA after reducing power, then?
VitoRazoR@reddit
when you reduce power without changing anything else, the plane will drop due to reduced lift. This will increase airspeed.
primalbluewolf@reddit
I suspect you're missing the effect of the aircraft's AoA stability, in there. Reducing power on any light aircraft I know, does not lead to an increase in airspeed as a result.
dilemmaprisoner@reddit
I thought the explicit part is asking what (which) is required to maintain altitude; not assuming you've already maintained it
Frederf220@reddit
Agreed. This is a place which "is required to maintain altitude" which means indefinitely. Answers A B C are all incompatible with a power reduction and level flight.
I just don't see the remaining answer as being a practical course of action for any length of time. Maybe it is in the context of extending flaps in the pattern.
primalbluewolf@reddit
You can perhaps see the value of carefully considering the range of possible interpretations, when drafting assessment questions.
Philly514@reddit
Better get used to it because all aviation exams word questions like this lol
nolaflygirl@reddit
Not the ones I had. They were very clear. If you knew the material, the answers were obvious. But you did have to FULLY understand the material -- not just memorize things.
Metallifan33@reddit
God, I don't miss unnecessarily worded test questions such as this. Actual flying (airline or otherwise), is not as complicated as the written tests.
nolaflygirl@reddit
My written tests were very clear. And the practice test booklets I bought, w/ answers & explanations, were very similar and/or identical to the real FAA test questions. This example provided by OP is beyond belief!
Next-Impression-9509@reddit
Don’t worry, as someone who designs and certifies airplane aerodynamics and has been on more wind tunnel and flight tests than I can count, this is a terribly worded question.
Bunslow@reddit
Honestly it's bad enough I'm not even sure rewording can save it. Just need to dump this set of answers entirely
nolaflygirl@reddit
SO true!
nolaflygirl@reddit
THANK YOU!! I have an advanced degree w/ honors, in languages, & taught at the university level for a decade, & I had to read this question multiple times AND its poorly written answer choices & came up w/ the same conclusion as you! This test must be British, etc., bc no one in the U.S. would write "aeroplane" & "whilst"! Thank God my writtens were in plain English!!
nolaflygirl@reddit
THANK YOU!! I have an advanced degree w/ honors, in languages, & taught at the university level for a decade, & I had to read this question multiple times AND its poorly written answer choices & came up w/ the same conclusion as you! This test must be British, etc., bc no one in the U.S. would write "aeroplane" & "whilst"! Thank God my writtens were in plain English!!
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
If you reduce power, then speed will reduce. If speed reduces, you need to increase something else to maintain enough lift to keep constant altitude, which is the coefficient of lift - either through increase of AoA, or changing configuration (more flaps).
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
Well thats the way i read it right. I was like. How can your speed increase if you reduced power.
I didn’t read it as “lets say you reduce power but the speed is still increasing”
Apprehensive_Cost937@reddit
Yes, these tests often also test your level of English comprehension. Always read the question carefully - if you are maintaing altitude while reducing power, something has to give.
latedescent@reddit
I’d argue the person writing the question lacks English comprehension
jk01@reddit
Idk. I'm a native speaker and I understood it just fine the first time.
That said it's not worded the most intuitively, for sure.
nolaflygirl@reddit
With all due respect, of which language are you a "native speaker"? Because if you understood it just fine the first time...your native tongue must not be English, as spoken in the U.S. We don't even use "aeroplane" & "whilst". I'm a former university professor of multiple languages & in no one's estimation would this question or the answer choices be deemed good or proper English.
jk01@reddit
Good thing you're a former professor if you couldn't infer that I meant the question could be worded better but it absolutely makes sense.
nolaflygirl@reddit
You did admit that "it's not worded the most intuitively". Not sure what you mean by "intuitively" in this context bc test questions should be written as clearly as possible, leaving no doubt as to what is meant. No one should have to intuit anything! The answer choices are written even worse than the question!
jk01@reddit
Sure, but if you're not functionally illiterate you should be able to figure out what it means. Which I could, easily. Surely a former university professor can understand what I'm saying?
nolaflygirl@reddit
I'm far from "functionally illiterate". And if you can't tell that from my comments, then that description must fit you. I graduated w/ Distinction w/ a 4.0 GPA, & was a university language professor of multiple languages for a decade. I also passed my writtens w/ "flying colors". Additionally, I'm a published author of several aviation articles. Your use of the adverb, "intuitively", does not make sense in this context as I CLEARLY explained. Test questions & answers should be well-written & crystal clear. This example is not. And MANY commenters here have acknowledged that fact.
jk01@reddit
You're a fucking moron, clearly, because you can't understand that it having flaws doesn't mean that it didn't make sense.
nolaflygirl@reddit
You did admit that "it's not worded the most intuitively". Not sure what you mean by "intuitively" in this context, though, bc test questions should be written as clearly as possible, leaving no doubt as to what is being asked. No one should have to intuit anything! The answer choices are written even more poorly than the question!
nolaflygirl@reddit
EXACTLY!
nolaflygirl@reddit
"...something has to give."
I just said those exact words to my daughter re this scenario. NONE of my tests in the good ol' U S of A used "aeroplane" & "whilst"! So this would likely test your level of British English comprehension!
Amf2446@reddit
You can definitely reduce power and increase speed!
Bunslow@reddit
This isn't always true. For constant-altitude flight, you can reduce drag power (and thus engine power) by moving closer to Vy. If you were flying on the backside of the power curve (e.g. Vx), then reducing power requires increasing speed towards Vy.
From cruise speed this is true.
Very bad question, or arguably, the question is alright but these suggested answers are horrible
nolaflygirl@reddit
YES! I'm shocked by the answers even more than the poorly written question!
lisper@reddit
This is a TERRIBLE question, quite possibly the worst I have ever seen, and that is saying something. The correct answer is none of the above.
There are three problems with the question as posed. First is that it says that the airplane is required to maintain a constant altitude, but it does not say that it actually does. Second, it doesn't tell you what the initial conditions are. Are you initially in level flight? Coming out of a spin? In an updraft? Third, the answers are in the form of conditionals, and the conditions in the first three answers are counterfactuals.
Let's assume, since the question says that the airplane is "required to maintain a constant altitude" that it is initially in level flight. Now, as specified, you reduce power. By the book, two things must happen to maintain altitude: the angle of attack must increase, and the airspeed must decrease. But is this actually true in reality? No! Lots of other things could be going on. You could be behind the power curve. You could have hit an updraft. You could be recovering from a spin (that would make reducing power make sense) or engaged in some other aerobatic maneuver. You could have gotten caught in an alien tractor beam. The question doesn't say, so you have to start making assumptions. A reasonable set of assumptions is that initially you are in level, steady-state flight, ahead of the power curve, and no updrafts or alien tractor beams. So if you reduce power, to maintain altitude you have to increase the angle of attack, which will slow you down.
The problem with answer C is that it has a conditional: "If speed is increased." But we already know (under our reasonable assumptions) that speed will decrease. So either this answer is a counterfactual, or we have to start making different assumptions. But the question provides no guidance about what kinds of assumptions we are allowed to make. It really is equivalent to, "an increase in angle of attack must be made if you are caught in an alien tractor beam." The first part is correct -- the angle of attack must increase. But the condition makes the answer non-sensical (under reasonable assumptions) and therefore not correct.
Answers A and B are likewise counterfactuals. Speed will not increase, and angle of attack cannot be reduced under the specified conditions. Answer D is not a counterfactual because the condition, "If power is reduced" is already specified in the question, so this is equivalent to simply saying, "Maximum flap should be used to increase the lift." This is actually a not-entirely-indefensible answer. Adding flaps actually will help you maintain altitude, but only for a very short time before the extra drag slows you down to the point where you stall. So "should" you do this? Probably not.
Whoever wrote this question, and whoever signed off on including it in whatever test you are taking, should be fired.
nolaflygirl@reddit
I reasoned in a similar fashion as you -- absent the "alien tractor beam" -- & came up w/ choice D as the one that would be true, given the info in the question. And, like what you said, I explained to my daughter that a stall would ensue. It's unconscionable that this question & its answer choices passed muster w/ someone!!
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
Your brain is going through the same hoops as mine is every time i read it 🤣🤣🤣
It saying IF speed is increased
IS increased.
Not increasING
“Is” increased means it is an action not a reaction. Is increas”ing” would be a reaction ?
But hey I’m not an english native so I stand to be corrected 😜
lisper@reddit
No, absolutely not. In fact, if you are in steady-state level flight and you increase power and do nothing else, you will actually slow down (and begin to climb). You can even end up in a power-on stall this way.
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
That depends entirely on the design stability of the airplane and is not a universal rule at all.
lisper@reddit
Fair enough, I should have said you can slow down, not that you will. But this has been the case for every airplane I've ever flown. Is there actually a GA aircraft for which this is not true?
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
Yes. Anything with neutral stability. I own a piston single that is neutrally stable for aerobatic purposes.
lisper@reddit
Ah. That explains why nothing I've ever flown behaves that way :-)
Ok-Rise9170@reddit
"Hi, I'm just curious: what are the easiest and hardest questions?"
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
I suppose it depends on you and what part of the subject you know best. But some questions will be like: What is considered a primary flight control?
That kind of question should be pretty easy 😁
Sharp-Beyond2077@reddit
Question is asked in a stupid way but yeah the answer is C. Pilot exams seem to always feel like more of an English comprehension exam than one that tests your actual knowledge of the subject unfortunately
Frederf220@reddit
I don't see how the answer is C, first higher speed requires a lower AOA not a higher one (as a standalone fact) plus the question states a level flight power reduction in the antecedent which should render what to do if speed increases moot because speed will not be increasing.
Sharp-Beyond2077@reddit
Reduction of power, aircraft descends, speed increases, needs higher AoA to stay level
Frederf220@reddit
An "aeroplane which is required to maintain a constant altitude" never descends. And your statement that AoA needs to be increased isn't true. If you maintain altitude at 3° AoA at 80 knots then you need less (not more) than 3° at more than 80 knots no matter if descending or otherwise.
Vithar@reddit
If I have my autopilot set to altitude hold, and I reduce power, what will the autopilot do?
Frederf220@reddit
It will do something which is not an option in any of the answers and therefore irrelevant to the question.
Vithar@reddit
Forget the given answers for a second. What will it do and why?
Frederf220@reddit
It will pitch up, increasing AOA which isn't (fully) any if the multiple choice options.
Vithar@reddit
Why does it pitch up?
Frederf220@reddit
It is the solution to what pitch is required to maintain altitude given a reduction in power.
If one of the answers was "an increase in the angle of attack must be made if power is reduced" that would be clearly the correct answer.
Captain_Sheppard@reddit
You’re overthinking this. The question is worded badly, and you have to be able to try and understand what they actually mean
The airplane is required to maintain a constant altitude, but it doesn’t mean they actually are. The answers are attempting to fix an airplane that has already deviated from the desired altitude
Frederf220@reddit
C has the only "AoA must be increased" and it looks like it's marked as intended. It still shouldn't be the case that "speed has increased" though.
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
Thats how I have felt the whole time.
Like questions that will say. About the axis Or along the axis.
I keep mixing then up. It’s not because I’m not understanding which motion the airplane makes it’s just because I have literally never used the word “about” something in my life 🤣🤣
Forsaken-Ad5571@reddit
It’s C. If you’re reducing power but speed in increasing, that means you’re pointing down and so need to increase angle of attack to slow down. Remember that generally power affects altitude and the elevator/attitude affects speed.
A would just increase your speed further as your trading height for speed.
B is the opposite of cause and effect.
D is kinda wrong. Increasing flap will increase your lift as well as drag but it’s never something you just go for when reducing power but wanting to keep altitude. Especially maximum flap.
Frederf220@reddit
It's not C. Answers B and C are both untrue in almost every flying context regardless of the question. They are essentially the same answer except B reduces lift twice (AoA-, speed-) while C increases lift twice (AoA+, speed+).
Only answer A has mixed effects on pigt of speed and AoA (AoA-, speed+) that have a chance of maintaining altitude like the question demands. However the speed effect (speed+) is incompatible with the question's supposition, that of a level flight power reduction.
By process of elimination, only answer D remains. There is a context where extending flaps is the answer... preparing for landing. I think the question is hinting at a situation where you're slowing down to land and you want to extend flaps gracefully. You reduce power but don't increase AoA to compensate... extend flaps instead. Now you can maintain your traffic pattern level flight while accomplishing the flap change.
Otherwise it's true extending flaps is rarely the troubleshooting solution when the desire is to maintain altitude especially given a voluntary power reduction.
Captain_Sheppard@reddit
It’s a terrible question, but it’s C. This is their logic:
If you reduce power and end up increasing airspeed, that means you are pitched down and losing altitude. You must increase your AOA to stay at your desired altitude
Will you actually be able to maintain that altitude over time? Maybe? We don’t know how much power they reduced
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
It says maintain constant altitude, not climb to original altitude.
Captain_Sheppard@reddit
The airplane is required to maintain a constant altitude, but it doesn’t mean they actually are. The answers are attempting to fix an airplane that has already deviated from the desired altitude. In the case of the correct answer C, you have already lost altitude and you have to increase AOA and climb to return to the altitude you were supposed to maintain.
It’s badly worded question that requires guessing what they mean
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
Where does the question say you need to start a climb or descent?
As far as I can tell, it only says maintain constant altitude.
Captain_Sheppard@reddit
Well the correct answer is C. And the only way that’s possible is if you increased airspeed from pitching down and losing altitude. This is why I am saying it’s a badly worded question
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
The answer the test maker picked is C, but it's incorrect. They messed up this question in a big way. It's a stupid question that even the person who wrote it doesn't understand.
GrnMtnBuckeye@reddit
While I agree it is a very poorly worded question, the test taker selected A and the most correct answer is C as @captain_sheppard noted. Airspeed climbing after reducing power should be an indication for the pilot to look at the VSI/Altimeter and take action. Nine times out of ten the required action will be to increase the angle of attack to stop the descent (and maintain the altitude). IF you wanted to return to the previous altitude, you would need to increase the angle of attack a little more but the question only asks for you to maintain level flight at the lower power setting.
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
Achsutually, as I noted earlier, the most correct answer is D.
Vithar@reddit
If I reduce power and my speed increases. What does that tell us about our altitude and angle of attack?
Frederf220@reddit
Your speed doesn't increase in the question. The answer with "if speed is increased" is not relevant to the question because the if condition is false. It would be the same as a situation with a question about takeoff and an answer had the condition "when landing, you should...". If the statement in a possible answer is true on its own (or not) is neither here nor there.
Vithar@reddit
If I reduce power and touch nothing what is going to happen to my speed? Is my speed going to increase, decrease, or stay the same?
Frederf220@reddit
same
Turbo_Normalized@reddit
The question requires you to maintain altitude, so it's not C. It's impossible to increase angle of attack AND increase airspeed AND maintain altitude. B and C are aerodynamically impossible, full stop.
A is true aerodynamically, but there's no explanation for what's causing your speed to increase despite reducing power so I would hesitate to choose it.
D could also be true. If you're slow enough and slow further, you might need flaps to maintain altitude. But soon you'd slow enough to be behind the power curve and need to add power to maintain altitude.
D is the only one that's at least true without weird external factors for a period of time.
fedepalomares@reddit
Think about lift formula:
L = C L ½⍴v 2 S
You can control just two of them, speed (V), and at a certain point, CL (via angle of atack or flaps). The others are fixed by plane's design and atmospheric conditions (wing surface, air density).
It is an equation, so it has to be an equality. If you increase a value, you must decrease another one (or viceversa) to keep that equality and reach the same result (L, lift). As you are allowed to change just two of them via flight controls (CL and V), going back to your question, if you reduce power or speed (V) you have to increase angle of attack (CL), in case you want to keep the same altitude (L). If you do not maintain that equality, you start a climb or a descent.
MrFulla93@reddit
I despise test questions that are more about how good you are at tests than if you know the material.
this question is horrendously worded. gotcha questions can go to hell, and this is one.
planejocky@reddit
C is correct inc angle of attack to maintain current alt. Speed will decrease . Normal angle of attack for cruise speed is about 13 degrees. Stall will happen at around 17 degrees as u slow down and maintain alt. U increase pitch and u if trying maintain a constant speed slow flight will require more power because u are on back side of power curve.
TheLongest1@reddit
This seems like a CASA question. Written by morons
Pulse-Doppler13@reddit
Lift formula immediately disproves it. Weird wording
toraai117@reddit
Not only is the question horribly worded, if you assume it was written correctly, then there is no correct answer. If you assume it was written wrong (missing a comma or two), there still is no correct answer
Bunslow@reddit
Well if you want to maintain altitude, you need to ensure that drag power is not more than engine power.
And if you want to maintain altitude and reduce engine power, then you also need to reduce drag power -- that is, fly closer to Vy.
a) is true in general, altho one can move closer to Vy from either side.
b) is always false for fixed wing pilots. (the load is always 1g, so less speed means more aoa [until you stall. pls dont stall]).
c) is also always false for fixed wing pilots. since the load is always 1g, a speed increase means a less aoa. (loosely speaking, load is proportional to the square of IAS times the AoA [when away from the stall].)
d) is essentially always false. maximum flaps for any sane transport plane means an increase in drag power, which means an increase in engine power.
Conclusion: horrible, horrible question.
SkyMonkeySpeedster@reddit
Not to be condescending, but the answer is clearly C, and there is no confusion here. The question specifically states while "REDUCING POWER". It's what needs to happen to attitude and nothing else. Although both A&B are correct statements, they are incorrect regarding what is being asked.
satans_little_axeman@reddit
This is why, in the US, pilot certificates list "Limitations: English Proficient" on the back.
CCLF@reddit
The wording on this question is absolutely breaking my brain.
Reminds me of this moment from The Life Aquatic: https://youtu.be/RbUvFCj_qqo?t=32&si=Sg7t440SX-P6QQfR
Mazer1415@reddit
This looks like an AI question with a weird word salad phrasing and answers. Where is none of the above?
Fr4nko_@reddit
Its A. If speed increases AoA must decrease. If soeed decreases AoA must increase to remain constant altitude
methodeum@reddit
Horrifically worded question
PrimaryMeeting4297@reddit
You'll just speed up more.
FvKuR0@reddit
C is the instinctual answer you ingrained from learning slow-flight, but if you aren't reintroducing any power then that altitude will ultimately be lost or you will slow to a stall. D is the best option to increase lift with a lower power setting.
_MartinoLopez@reddit
Unsure why everyone is saying C unless I’m completely misunderstanding the question.
If an aircraft increases speed in straight and level flight, then AoA needs to reduce otherwise it’ll generate more lift, and no longer be maintaining altitude. The only answer that makes sense is A.
stickJ0ckey@reddit
C. Because if speed is increasing you need to reduce the speed while also maintaining the altitude, so you increase the AoA (pull up) to convert the kinetic energy into potential energy.
OracleofFl@reddit
Doesn't the question say you should maintain altitude? If you reduce power (as it says) your induced drag is higher to maintain altitude, thus MORE aoa?
stickJ0ckey@reddit
increase AoA = more AoA = pull up = pitch up = nose up
Unless you're inverted :) then you have other things to worry about :)
primalbluewolf@reddit
Even without being inverted, these are not all equal. For instance, you can simultaneously pitch down while increasing AoA. Just requires that your ballistic trajectory is dropping more steeply than the nose is.
That's not some implausible gotcha, either - its a common state in many light aircraft around the stall.
stickJ0ckey@reddit
You are right, I was merely trying to say he said the exact said thing I said but using a different word (I said "increase", he said "more").
I'll delete my comment as it seems it's doing more harm than helping, got to work at figuring out a better way to explain things
OracleofFl@reddit
Yes, but it says there is a power reduction in the question, so you agree less, not more AoA is needed if power is increased? Choice C says increase AoA if power is increased?
stickJ0ckey@reddit
Speed is not the same as power.
2c: focus & read stuff thoroughly, it makes a huge difference.
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
Aaaaah thanks everyone!!!
So i figured out its the WAY I’m reading the answers.
English is not my first language. And I’m honestly struggling more with the wording of things rather then the actual physics of it.
That helped!
Muddring@reddit
English is my first language and that question was poorly written.
stickJ0ckey@reddit
Yeah I remember there are quite a few questions like this in the QBs.
Don't rush into picking an answer, give it some thought, it will all make sense eventually.
And definitely go through the textbooks first rather than jumping on the QBs directly :)
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
100% I’ve read the book. Watched the videos only then did my mock exams. Now just trying to focus on the things I will get wrong sometimes. Which unfortunately seems to be reading hahaha
stickJ0ckey@reddit
It may take a few passes to understand some of the concepts, plus some of the information may take repetition and some time to settle.
Can_Not_Double_Dutch@reddit
Thats a really bad question. Others have explained the correct answer
ohitsro@reddit
C
Important-Gas7070@reddit (OP)
Can you elaborate?
The way I’m seeing it: If you increase AoA and speed you would increase altitude?
Maybe its because english isn’t my first language and I’m just interpreting the sentences wrong.
apoegix@reddit
Yes BUT the initial "question" was talking about reducing power. Overall just confusing. You are right though