What do tourists get wrong about the UK?
Posted by AlucardVTep3s@reddit | AskUK | View on Reddit | 620 comments
People that work in domestic tourism. So tour guides, mountain guides, hotel/resort staff, airport staff, etc. People that see a huge influx of international visitors from diverse regions of the planet.
The UK of GB and NI has a vast history which probably comes with plenty of stereotypes. One we’ve heard many times over is the cliché “British Politeness” but we all know this such a huge generalisation. We all know really nasty people but also people who are good as gold, it’s person specific.
Just like how French people have a stereotype for being rude but I know many French people who extremely polite, it’s just something people get wrong about France.
My question to people who work in the domestic tourism industry (also open to other opinions) is: What do think tourists coming to the UK get wrong or have misconceptions of?
No-Zombie9567@reddit
Its amazing how many Americans ask if London is "safe" or ask if they can use "tap & pay". Its like they think we're a third world country
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Lmao, even in the proper sticks of the welsh valleys, the burger vans have apple/google pay. Shocking.
And I’d say it’s astronomically safer anywhere here than in the US, but we’re also minuscule in comparison.
tgerz@reddit
I'm an American that moved to London. I don't travel in the online circles that talk about doom and gloom every where, mainly just see what gets posted on Reddit. It surprises me when people talk about Wales being unsafe. Not sure if the rhetoric is unique to Swansea or certain areas, but it always sounds like utter bollocks having lived where I've lived. Whenever I see the most beautiful waterfalls or beaches it turns out to be Wales. I need to get there one of these days.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
The 3 biggest cities in Wales are Swansea, Cardiff and Newport (by population), that’s where majority of the major crime will be.
What’s a major issue in terms of crime is drugs and county lines. Spanning from Sawnsea to Leeds, South Wales used to have the highest rate of drug trafficking in the UK at some point, there’s been a lot of major operations in my town alone, people who were a few years older than me in school were on front page local news. I can even go to Llantwit Major and people can point me to ex glue sniffers or ex/current shroom pickers😂
tgerz@reddit
Doesn’t sound too different from my hometown. At one point it was known for some of the highest levels of meth production in the country, but growing up there I wasn’t living in fear like people portray things. Of course things can and should be better, but I get the reality vs the perception.
fgspq@reddit
Last time I got a taxi in Wales I had to pay halfway through the journey. We stopped going over a pass and he pulled over, explaining that he had signal here.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Did he get out the little white machine? If so, I’ve had this many times too, even in Exeter ways.
I’ve also had local firms send me a link to pay through Whatsapp.
fgspq@reddit
Yeah, little white card reader while you wait and hope for it to connect.
frankchester@reddit
Crazy thing is they didn't even get contactless or chip&pin for DECADES.
I used to work in a student shop on campus so we got a lot of American students and they hardly ever had a pin number?! They always wanted to SIGN. This was in like 2012.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Excuse me I’m 25, wtf is SIGN? All I know is cheque, cash, card, contactless?
Ok-Error2510@reddit
Dont you still sign a cheque? Youve just said you know cheque, but thats signed?
78Anonymous@reddit
you put your signature on the receipt to confirm the payment .. in practice there should be a visual inspection to compare the signature on the card with the one on the receipt/payment slip
back in the day the only time a PIN was needed was to use an ATM to draw cash or use other teller services (that weren't otherwise accessible because before banking became fully digital)
the signature confirmation thing is a legacy artefact
DameKumquat@reddit
Back In The Day (basically 1980s to early 2000s) you would hand over your credit/debit card, it would get run through a reader - often a physical thing making an actual carbon copy with carbon, from those raised numbers - remember them?
You'd then sign the paper they gave you and they'd compare that to the signature on your card.
Then chip and pin came in, though some American banks only introduced that v recently.
pick10pickles@reddit
You just completely glossed over swiping your card using the magnetic strip and then entering your pin (debit) or signing the receipt (credit). I remember working in Canada in the early 2000s when they switched over from swiping to chip.. and how to get around using the chip (for credit) because I couldn’t remember the pin.
DameKumquat@reddit
It was more common in the UK for the cashier to do the swiping. They were better at it!
pick10pickles@reddit
Cashiers ruined so many of my dad’s cards. Always swiped on an angle and over time they cracked. But I remember using a bit of receipt paper to make a card sandwich for it to swipe better when cards started to wear out. Or you could put a bit of scotch tape over the mag strip.
snakeoildriller@reddit
Yeah! I worked as a junior in a small bank branch in those days, and the absolute panic the day we ran out of sales vouchers!! Guess who got sent out to the local shops to try and "borrow" some to tide us over 🙄
ManyHatsAdm@reddit
I was in a supermarket about 10 years ago and the card machine was down so they'd cracked out the old manual carbon copy machines and vouchers. Poor girl at the till didn't have a clue what to do, I had to do it for her! Luckily I worked in a supermarket back in the day.
phoebsmon@reddit
We had to get them out around the same time, that was in a pub though. It was that time where they'd gone fully to chip and pin, but the machines weren't quite as reliable yet. Just a bit of a perfect storm so we had to hop back a few generations in technology.
mr-ajax-helios@reddit
So could you theoretically just have your card nicked and have someone copy your signature? I hope they were at least easy to freeze or cancel
DameKumquat@reddit
It's pretty difficult to copy a signature at speed, but that's why you want a signature including both names and being complicated, not just one initial and a wiggly line that you might use elsewhere.
You could phone to cancel them probably more easily than now, given phone trees were just being invented.
TheBestBigAl@reddit
The worst part was having to constantly carry around a quill and inkwell.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Bloody hell and they have the nerve to say Europe and/or the UK is old fashioned??
frankchester@reddit
I've travelled to the US a lot and it is INCREDIBLY old fashioned in so many ways. More-so than most of Europe.
We have a lot more old buildings for sure, but a lot of stuff there is completely okd fashioned and backwards.
Shyaustenwriter@reddit
And falling apart, the sheer decay of America is astounding
DameKumquat@reddit
Bear in mind America is the size of Europe and ranges from world class cities to backwards isolated towns, which would be many of the places having to read cards.
And has 50 lots of legislation to deal with.
They've mostly leapfrogged chip and pin and gone to contactless, having previously leapt to credit cards before they were common in the UK.
Forgetting rationing etc - America really was way ahead in tech and consumer comforts and appliances in the 70s and 80s, but the UK isn't behind any more.
frankchester@reddit
As others have said, you sign the receipt. It did used to still occur with British people when I first started working in like 2009. Mainly older people who hasn't transitioned to chip & pin, so I was somewhat used to it.
But here's how it went down with this particular American:
Me: just put your card in the machine
American: why
Me: to use your PIN?
American: no?
At this point I realise her card doesn't have a chip anyway, so I take it and swipe it. Till spits out a receipt to sign
Me: OK can you sign here then (I put her card down briefly)
American: signs receipt, then picks up her card
Me: I need to see your card
Her: why?
Me: to compare your signatures?
Her: but I didn't sign the back of my card
Me: uhm why... how can I compare your signature?
Her: I didn't want someone to steal my card and know my signature!
Me: but that's why you sign the card... because now you could be anyone. I can't verify the signature on the receipt is the same as your card?
Her: *blank stare*
Luckily, she had her signature on her ID and I was willing to take that. But my god, so stupid.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
OMG, THAT’S why on my first ever debit card, with the 3d digits, it needed to be signed on the back. This is the ultimate revelation for me.
I remember never signing it, then my dad saw it and told me to sign it because it’s illegal…
Morganx27@reddit
If it helps, I'm also just having this revelation now. I can't remember the last time I signed my card.
phoebsmon@reddit
They were there for signing too. In a way. If the machines were down (or just in general before the machines came in), you'd put it in a little manual copier thing. It'd use carbon paper to copy the numbers and your name onto the slip, you'd sign and then take one copy home.
You still used to see them as a back up not that long ago, mostly in pubs and stuff for power cuts. But they're useless now.
TheBestBigAl@reddit
It wasn't illegal at all. The idea was that if the card was stolen, the theif could have written their signature on it.
Then when they used the card in a shop and had to sign a recipt to verify the purchase, the signatures would match and the cashier would allow the transaction.
HarketSavoy@reddit
I’ve had this a few times with Americans. They absolutely refused to sign their cards. I did try to tell them why, but they ignored me. We were told to refuse cards without a signature.
sarahc13289@reddit
I’m 37 and don’t think I’ve ever signed.
Grunn84@reddit
In the old days when you paid by card they would print you a receipt, you signed it they compared it to the one in your card and that was your authorization to debit your card later.
HalfAgony-HalfHope@reddit
Even now, its common in the US to have them take away your card when paying in a restaurant. Very dated.
one_pint_down@reddit
Trying to order a drink at a bar in NYC last year was way more complicated than it should have been. You have to sign something, they take your card away, defaulting to a tab system... just let me tap for this one drink!
Kiss_It_Goodbyeee@reddit
Worked in my favour one time a few years ago. Their machine wasn't working so they took down my details and said would put it through later. Never did.
The waitress got her tip in cash, but the restaurant lost out.
Minskdhaka@reddit
Wow.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
The US was so far behind that they essentially skipped chip and PIN, going straight for contactless and Apple Pay.
wildeaboutoscar@reddit
Do we still need to do that? Can't remember the last time I did
PartyPoison98@reddit
I remember back in 2021 or so, an American student telling the rest of us how we just HAD to use Venmo because it was so much easier. She couldn't understand that it was completely unnecessary here.
horoscopical@reddit
I don't even really know what Venmo is, it's just one of those names I hear Americans using.
78Anonymous@reddit
A digital p2p instant money transfer app.
Needed because bank transactions aren't instant in the USA or there are interbank discrepancies and account types that take days to complete and cost fees.
The banking system in the USA is truly archaic by European standards.
No-Zombie9567@reddit
Similar to logging into a banking app to transfer money over here. Blew my American colleagues mind when we did a collection at work and someone just sent their bank details round.
jar_jar_LYNX@reddit
I remember having to sign for shit in Seattle as recently as 2024 I think? I think Americans think they live in the most advanced society in the world. I live in Canada now and driving over tbe border at night is crazy. We are all well lit here, driving in the States at night its basically pitch black. Everything just seems dirtier and less functional down there
PaleozoicQueen@reddit
I was in LA, San Fransisco and other bits of California recently and they are still signing to make payments.
I had issues a few times because servers over there were not used to a card that had a chip and pin system, a few times I had to explain that I can't just hand over my card to be swiped because my bank wouldn't allow it.
It's 2026.
I find it outrageous that Americans aren't more up in arms about how little their banks truly do to protect their money. Just on the chip and pin thing alone, in this day and age of mass fraud and scams, how can this still be a thing!?
sultansofswinz@reddit
I had the same when I visited the US in 2021. I couldn't fathom how signing a piece of paper could withdraw money from my bank account.
I still have no idea what the point of wasting all that paper is. I went to a nightclub and the bar was just littered with paper. It's like logging into Reddit and to log in you just need to click the "trust me bro" button.
PaleozoicQueen@reddit
It felt so dodgy because I would get the notifications on my phone a day or two later that they had finally taken the payment on their end. They are able to adjust the charge to whatever they want in the days afterwards! It does make sense when you consider how they tip in the US but my gosh, that is so easy for a criminal to take advantage of! It was so jarring to me that they can take money out of your account days after you have left!
It really illustrates just how bad it was before chip and pin was invented, we have forgotten what it is like swiping cards in UK/Europe. For me it so reminded me of being a child with my mum in ASDA in the 90s lmao. I think that is the last time I saw it here.
sultansofswinz@reddit
It must be common that people get their money stolen by shop employees and dodgy businesses given that the only thing between taking money out of your account is a piece of paper with your signature on it? I've never seen it mentioned as something that happens so I guess there's more to it.
I did go to Las Vegas last year and about a month later I had a payment come through for an American Football game but it was rejected by my bank and that was the end of it. Not sure if it's related though.
PaleozoicQueen@reddit
I believe you are right there! Another thing you have to watch our for is that in a 7-11 or a store like that, they have a fake card reader on top of the real one and it steals all your card details! As I understand it, lots of money has been stolen that way!
The big rule I always follow as a frequent traveller is to only ever do anything with my card at an ATM inside a bank, where there are cameras and you know the ATM itself is secure and genuine. It is very helpful now that if someone had their card details and was spending on it that we can have live time notifications of the spending rather than it being a nasty surprise when you got back from the trip.
Touch wood though, I have only yet been kinda ripped off for £20 by a taxi driver in Budapest, I knew, I just was so tired, it was hot and I was in IDGAF mode lol.
Omg for sure that attempt on your card is related! That is exactly the problem- someone got your card details somehow and was trying to use it. I am so glad the bank rejected it!
I hope you had a good time in Vegas, I enjoy it very much myself!
frankchester@reddit
Because Americans in general are not well travelled, and also told constantly that they are the best in the world at everything, and therefore can't conceive that things are better elsewhere. They assume the technology they have is how it works everywhere.
drastic2@reddit
Only 50% of Americans have a passport for international travel, but you didn't used to need one to travel to Mexico or Canada or parts of the Caribbean so it didn't mean people didn't travel. America itself is pretty large, and quite frankly, traveling from say New England to the South to Texas to California and its similar to traveling to different countries. Those distances cover the whole of Europe. They just use the same currency and speak roughly the same language. Because of the distances here, travel to Europe is more expensive, so many people never achieve it. As to best in the World, if you don't have a close-by backyard of a dozen countries, yeah, you don't see how others are getting along with Technology.
PaleozoicQueen@reddit
Oh yes, I of course understand this, my question was rhetorical.
It is similar yes. I have travelled domestically within the United States myself. It is huge and even just my flight from California to Texas was 6 hours in total.
I still find it sad to see the lack of curiosity or wanderlust spirit in a nation that could be some of the most well travelled in the world.
frankchester@reddit
I’ve travelled the US extensively so I’m well aware of the size and also the differences between those places. I’m not sure that visiting a resort in the Caribbean gives a true indication of how things work abroad work, though. From my time spent with many Americans in various corners of their country I can say that the majority genuinely have a belief that things that are done in their country are just how they’re done everywhere. They most definitely have a culture of being told they are the pinnacle of society, and it’s therefore quite the a shock to learn that things work better elsewhere.
PaleozoicQueen@reddit
Indeed. It is sad to see.
I have actually remarked to people in my life since coming back (context: It was my third time to the US, I have been to 8 states) how easy it was to forget the rest of the world existed there. I find it so sad because I find American people in general to be so lovely in the US, I wish it was easier for the average American to have more understanding and connection to the world outside of the United States and their increasing isolation is something that I am finding very worrying.
I was so anxious about going, when I was last there and landed in Las Vegas I was taken to the windowless room and further interviewed, it was intimidating and had my heart racing. In fairness to TSA, I can see how I looked odd as a single backpacker turning up on a flight full of families and couples on package holidays from the UK- but it really was just because I liked the airline.
It was a relief and a shock this time that when I landed in LAX last December, my interview with the officer lasted only 5 minutes!
olivercroke@reddit
If your card has a mag stripe then you're allowed to use it. Why would it be there otherwise?
Free_Ad7415@reddit
I remember going to a Starbucks in New York about 10/15 years ago…the card machine had a contactless symbol on it, so I tapped.
It didn’t work, I tapped again. And again.
The woman looked at me like I was a total moron, grabbed the card from me and pushed it into the machine and asked for my pin. Rude, but whatever.
It was only later that day (in another Starbucks, my card wasn’t working for whatever reason) that one of the staff members there told her colleague about contactless, and did something to the machine to turn it on so I could use it.
I then realised that the first woman had no idea it existed and thought I was some moronic idiot randomly bashing their card against the machine like it would do something 😂😂😂
172116@reddit
I had a job in a corner shop in 2009 or 2010, and one night randomly got some Americans in who had to sign the card receipt - what a bloody palaver. We didn't have a pen (because why would we?), and neither did any of them - eventually had to call the colleague on his tea break and beg him to go through the manager's office for some sort of writing implement. They seemed baffled I didn't have one on the till.
OurManInJapan@reddit
To be fair not having a pen next to a till is a bit daft
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
What for? In a corner shop?
blue_rizla@reddit
This is so fucking funny to me, lmao
Dico80@reddit
To write stuff
Logical_Strain_6165@reddit
How very last century.
HorrorAd7996@reddit
Don’t u still need a pen for the lottery?
Logical_Strain_6165@reddit
I don't know tbh, I don't play. But I think you can do it online.
Eddie_F_17@reddit
And for autographs?
olivercroke@reddit
What is someone writing in a corner shop?
suzienewshoes@reddit
We live in NZ which I think was one of the first countries in the world to have widespread chip & PIN, but to this day whenever we're back in the UK we have to sign our receipts.
blue_rizla@reddit
I would also be pretty amazed if a corner shop didn’t have a single pen tbh. It’s a pen.
evenstevens280@reddit
My corner shop sells fucking pens.
What business on earth doesn't have a pen knocking around?
SuperrVillain85@reddit
My Mrs had this happen at an Asda self checkout when she used her American card by mistake without thinking. It wouldn't give the option for her to enter a pin and just printed out a receipt for her to sign. Absolute chaos.
shatteredrealm0@reddit
You can still use UK Amex cards like this if you just press enter when it’s in the terminal, no pin needed.
clleadz@reddit
They never even got chip and pin. They have chip and sign. Wtf.
WolfColaCo2020@reddit
I was in the US in 2019. In a shop I used the contactless option out of instinct and the person behind the tills couldn’t understand how payment had been taken. I’ve heard it’s a lot more common now
BadahBingBadahBoom@reddit
Went to Florida when they started introducing contactless ('tap and pay').
Lady got excited introducing this new technology the US had and I just had to hold my tongue on how this had been completely normal in UK/Europe for years.
Guilty-Vermicelli320@reddit
I would have tapped and gone. I'm not hanging around for a explanation of it
Minskdhaka@reddit
Are you usually rude to cashiers? If so, why? Because you view them as socially inferior?
Guilty-Vermicelli320@reddit
No, I used to work miminum wage jobs so don't assume you know my background, I just don't want someone explaining what contactless is to me. I would have said, "thanks" and "bye".
FootballAndBicycles@reddit
It wasn't that long ago that I had to swipe my card for the first time ever, in Florida. Had no idea if the magnetic strip even still worked until then.
DarkNinjaPenguin@reddit
This is the perfect situation to educate someone on his the rest of the world works, not in a condescending way.
zwcropper@reddit
I definitely noticed how many more places in Boston took contactless after lockdowns in 2021 than before
AdaandFred@reddit
I had an American sign for their purchase in August last year. The last time I'd checked someone's signature was when I worked the tills at Wicks in 2001.
horoscopical@reddit
I have a mate in America who is a Gamestop Manager. I remember him telling me that they'd just got Chip and PIN.
This was so late that I hadn't even considered that anywhere on Earth might not have it.
xxxxxxxxxooxxxxxxxxx@reddit
I have a US card and it’s just chip without a pin, or contactless.
If I use it in the UK it makes me sign. I guess because there’s no pin.
Anyway I just mention that because for me it’s not that I want to sign but im asked to in the UK when using a US card.
WaltzFirm6336@reddit
Yes!!! I stayed with my friend in Texas in about 2015. Before I went I checked I didn’t need a tap and pay chip as my bank hadn’t yet rolled it out to me. She replied that most places in Texas didn’t have chip and pin yet so to make sure my card signature was easy to read!
BarryTownCouncil@reddit
Big difference in signing is , I believe, that they don't officially pay until they acknowledge their payment was indeed them, at like the end of the month in bulk so their signature didn't really need to mean anything, look like the back if the card etc.
ZeroFrogsHere@reddit
I went to the USA for the first time in 2018 and most places didn't accept contactless payment but would accept cheques😭
Mediocre_Sprinkles@reddit
I went to small to medium towns in Florida and Georgia a few times around 2013-2016ish.
We in the UK were doing contactless most of the time even in my tiny rural villages.
Over there they were still using cheques and signing most of the time. Chip and pin was a new fangled thing they were wary of.
Alternative-Emu2000@reddit
There was a weird transition period in the US, some tills had a keypad for people with Chip&Pin cards, combined with a touchscreen and stylus for people who still had to provide a signature.
Imperterritus0907@reddit
It’s even more amazing hearing people that actually visit Spain every year saying bullshit like they close for “siesta”. No country’s free from idiots
Noasbigasweejockjock@reddit
What do you call it then? When everything closes between 2pm and 5pm?
Imperterritus0907@reddit
It’s just long lunch break. Siesta literally means “nap”. No business closes to take a nap. Funny how everyone missed the point (and proved it).
SGTingles@reddit
That's a belter of a typo in your middle sentence there 😆
HarketSavoy@reddit
I always forget, and that’s when I start to get hungry. I was able to get something to tide me over.
dweedman@reddit
I mean this obviously isn't true in tourist resort towns or somewhere like Barcelona - but I went to visit my grandparents in Zaragoza every year or two growing up and EVERYTHING there was shut between 2/3pm-5/6pm. I don't know what it's like there now, last time I went 10 years ago or so there were some Chinese owned businesses that stayed open but that was it.
Maester_Bates@reddit
Big department stores and supermarkets open all day but most businesses close between two and five every day in Spain
Scrombolo@reddit
Funny, because I remember visiting NYC in the early 2000s and being amazed at them not having chip and pin. Literally still signing bits of paper to use your card like it was the 1980s.
Howard1981@reddit
Just before Covid I was at a restaurant in London where the American tourists next to us tried to pay for the meal with a cheque.
iamsheena@reddit
I'm from Canada (a smaller capital) and whenever I go home, I'm surprised at how far behind we are compared to the UK. It's like going back in time -- from grocery checkouts to website design. It's all stuck in the early 2000s where I'm from.
longtermbrit@reddit
I think they see it as some bleeding edge tech because they got it so recently so there's no way some Europoor nation that doesn't even have to pay for ambulance rides could have it too.
PepsiMaxSumo@reddit
It was such a culture shock to me 10 years ago when I went to NYC expecting to use contactless everywhere like I did in the UK and had to pull out cash because every card machine was swipe only.
I was so confused how America hadn’t caught up to chip and pin, let alone contactless as if they were still 3 decades behind the UK. Covid has at least forced the US to catch up with the 21st century
CuteMaterial@reddit
Same - I went to Boston for a couple of days (I was cabin crew) but had accidentally left my purse at home. I use Apple Pay for everything, so I didn't even realise I'd left it until I landed in Boston. Nowhere took Apple Pay so I had to borrow cash from a colleague.
Total_Rules@reddit
I think it’s fair for Americans to question if London is safe because they’re so used to places being unsafe that it’s the default for them.
DameKumquat@reddit
Anyone who is actually asking questions, good on them.
Some of my American family are visiting the UK soon. First time they've left the Americas. If your comparisons are Detroit, St Louis, Caracas and Rio, then finding out where you should and shouldn't go in the UK sounds like a wise plan.
I assured them that London was incredibly safe from violent crime, but pickpockets love jetlagged tourists, and anyone asking for money in the street is a scammer,.just say no.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
Their right wing influencers like hyping up London being this knife crime riddled hub of Islamism, as a distraction from issues in their own country. Some may well be comparing with other European cities though which are notorious for things like scammers and pickpockets.
M27TN@reddit
That is crazy considering it was them that was catching up not long ago on chip and PIN let alone contactless payments.
tfm992@reddit
It's very much global.
We live in a country with a war happening, my wallet hasn't left my pocket except to pay for a minibus when we got back and for small tips in coffee shops. I've paid for everything with my phone.
I remember in about 2012 we ended up in the US to collect an aircraft and take it to the country it was going to be based (with several stops, I worked for the airline it was on delivery to). My bank card didn't like the magnetic chip being used there even then and would have preferred a PIN. I think this was back in the pre-contactless days, but don't quote me on that.
evenstevens280@reddit
Which is funny because when I went to NYC in ~2019 the cafe owner looked at me with amazement when my Monzo debit card worked on their contactless reader.
GooseyDuckDuck@reddit
It’s weird, the US did a whole generational skip - straight from swipe and sign to contactless, they pretty much skipped over chip and PIN.
No-Zombie9567@reddit
Covid forced that hand, as at the time the world was petrified to even be within 2 meters of another individual
FiveYardFaded@reddit
Thinking that because it’s a small country, it’s easy to get around.
Captftm89@reddit
What people don't seem to realise is that south to north, the UK isn't even that small. The south coast of England to the north of Scotland is roughly half the distance of the US border with Mexico to the border with Canada (which everyone agrees is a large distance).
Where we're tiny is east to west (other than the very south of England).
So anyone expecting a quick trip from London to Edinburgh will be sorely mistaken. The only reason it's not too much hassle is because the London to Edinburgh line is one of the best served train routes in the UK.
The_Blip@reddit
The funny thing about East to West being tiny is that because of the terrain it's generally not that well supported compared to North and South transit.
tgerz@reddit
As a southern Californian who has driven that distance from border to border that's not very big. But that is coming from someone who likes to drive and loves a good road trip. Trains on the other hand are very interesting to me. I love the trains. I love having the option and coming from the states they are one of the best things about living here now. I do see the issues with cost comparisons and reliability, I just haven't had any major issues on them yet. Overall, I'll be honest I love the fuck out of this country and my time here has been great. Hoping I can stay longer and see more of it.
lottesometimes@reddit
They also don't realise that motorways are a lot more congested and that this can add considerably to travel times.
lottesometimes@reddit
I think it's because of the wrong scales used in US maps
SpectreSingh89@reddit
Is North to South really a 12 hour drive🤔
Mindless_Count5562@reddit
This has fucked with my head and I’m a Brit
Hame_Impala@reddit
People forget how far the north of Scotland stretches. Inverness is the Highland capital and it's a solid 2+ hours to the far north driving.
FishUK_Harp@reddit
Most of Canada'as population is in the Windsor-Quebec corridor. The distance between two sends seems pretty small, especially considering the size of Canada. It's a longer distance that the "height" of Great Britain.
BarleyWineStein@reddit
Great Britain is the 9th biggest island in the world, and that's by area. We're kind of long and thin, but just with a few quirky bits sticking out.
Short-Win-7051@reddit
"long and thin with a few quirky bits sticking out" also describes many Brits.
litetaker@reddit
That's what she said. Badum tss.
smushs88@reddit
You’ve met my brother then?
Unusual_Sherbert6893@reddit
He’s Welsh?
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
We're very similar to Italy in that regard (shape wise). But Italy is even longer than Great Britain. It's about 1000 miles getting from Palermo to Turin, certainly more than Dover to Thurso.
ThereAndFapAgain2@reddit
A lot of it comes down to the way countries are projected onto a flat world map that most people see.
It’s very hard to judge the actual size of the countries on a flat map trying to represent them from a globe. Some countries look significantly smaller/larger than they really are.
I’m not saying the UK is an especially large country, just that all of the countries in the world are misrepresented in some way on the maps most of us are used to seeing.
scarby2@reddit
The UK actually gets bigger on a Mercator projection (the one we're used to)
Equivalent_Tiger_7@reddit
Can confirm. Used to do Edinburgh to Portsmouth and back most weekends. Gave up after a while and just stayed up there!
Maus_Sveti@reddit
Yeah, originally from NZ and it did my head in particularly during Covid how Americans were saying NZ’s covid response worked because it’s a “small, rural country”. It’s more urbanised than the US, for starters, and while it’s undeniably much smaller than the US, that wasn’t what made the difference - Australia is similarly sized and they had similar policies. NZ is almost exactly the same size as Great Britain, but a little longer north to south.
smellthecoffeebeans@reddit
The UK isn't even as long as California. I don't think that makes the UK small, however. It is a normal sized European country.
AskingBoatsToSwim@reddit
It can be a hassle if you want to get the cheapest split-ticket 😅
combabulated@reddit
But just one state (also narrow) is ~1,000 miles from north to south borders. California of course.
Viking-Bastard-XIV@reddit
Have an American friend I worked with in Germany coming over in the summer. Wanted to go to Newcastle from Oxford “I’ll be back the same night, it’s less than 250 miles away and I drive that to work and back each day.”
seefroo@reddit
I worked in a hotel in Aberdeen and an Australian guy told me at breakfast he was about to drive to Leeds to surprise an old friend for LUNCH. I assume he must have confused miles for kilometres or something - it’s a 350 mile journey, which is 5 hours if you travel at an average of 70mph (which of course is impossible anywhere in the UK over that distance). If he thought it was 350km and he could travel at 110kmph I suppose it’s doable.
I advised against it but he insisted he could do it. He got back at dinner time, having given up at Glasgow and spent a few hours there instead (which is still a bit nuts for a day trip from Aberdeen).
If he was American he’d probably have muttered something about our roads being criminal and it was all our fault, but he was Australian so he happily admitted he was wrong and then drank the bar dry.
This was pre google maps and all that.
herwiththepurplehair@reddit
Well yeah but if you’re Australian, we must appear teeny weeny. I mean, I’ve been, and it takes forever to get anywhere. I live in Aberdeenshire and it baffles me that folk think the Highlands is just on our doorstep. I can’t fathom why cruise ships are docking here now.
Obvious_Arm8802@reddit
I live in Australia and when travelling long distances I normally stop for breakfast at around the 5 hour mark.
BigDsLittleD@reddit
Met an American lady who was staying in London for a couple of weeks. She had put aside a day to "do Scotland"
I couldn't tell if she thought it was the size of a city and Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen etc were boroughs, or if she just had no idea how far apart Edinburgh and Inverness actually are.
rocketscientology@reddit
Which is so funny because I’ve been meaning to visit the Highlands and islands for years but I feel like I’d need several weeks to do it justice and I never have the leave available!
Lishmi@reddit
Ia few years ago, I spent two full weeks travelling around Scotland. There was obviously plenty I missed but it was possibly some of the best two weeks holiday of my life. I definitely recommend taking at least that time, and planning a rough route. I was on my own for most of it, so I was winging it in parts (had a car and a tent). I managed to fit in two Islands (Skye and Orkney). But I could easily spend a full week exploring either. I have also been to Tiree on a different holiday. That was fun, a much smaller island which was surreal, (being able to see the whole island in a day). But some cool wildlife, managed to SEE a corncrake (rare bird)
wildeaboutoscar@reddit
I'd love to do that, it's such a beautiful part of the world
caspararemi@reddit
So many people think Scotland is just Glasgow & Edinburgh. I'm from a town near Inverness, and the number of people who don't realise there are even people living beyond the two big cities shocks (and infuriates) me regularly. And these are often English folk, let alone people from abroad.
Gone_For_Lunch@reddit
Christ, even folk from the central belt forget there’s people that far up.
HarketSavoy@reddit
We are aware of them but not how far apart they actually are. Or how far away Scotland is by car or train. That’s just the bottom part of Scotland.
paolog@reddit
Oh, I made this same joke and didn't even see you'd beaten me to it...
GrandDukeOfNowhere@reddit
They literally think that other countries are the size of a "Walmart parking lot". I'm currently in Seoul and the other day I went to the Lotte World Tower and I heard an American ask his phone "can you see the whole of South Korea from up here?". Size asside, I don't know if you've ever looked at a map, but South Korea is surrounded by water on 3 sides, you could not see the sea in any direction from up there.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
To be fair, even some native Londoners have that issue. Had to explain to one colleague that Edinburgh to Aberdeen is 2.5 hours and Edinburgh to Inverness 4 hours by train.
TheBestBigAl@reddit
Even if you were able to do 70mph the whole way and they meant 250 miles is the round trip, that's 3.5hrs every day on top of the hours being worked.
Absolute madness.
Frequent-Cobbler4232@reddit
I mean you can do that tbf, I’ve done it a couple times when my sister was at uni there. Not in this fuel cost claimed though.
phantom_phreak29@reddit
That's probably cos they tend to think in just distance especially Americans. Our roads are shit and windy about more than the straight highways of the states. Like eg toon to Leeds is 105miles Google projects it'd take 2hours 4 mins. By comparison Boston to Portland (Maine) 108 miles only takes 1hour 47. 15 mins isn't a lot but it does add up fast and that's considering toon to Leeds is a fair simple get out of toon and on the A1 journey
paolog@reddit
"In Britain, they think 200 miles is a long way. In America, they think 200 years is a long time."
zer0c00l81@reddit
Plus both city centres are a nightmare to get around
paolog@reddit
"We're doing England this weekend. On Saturday, we're touring the royal residences - Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, Hampton Court and Kensington Palace. Then in the afternoon we'll go check out the museums. On Sunday morning we're off to Edinburgh, and then in the afternoon we'll have high tea in Cornwall."
coachbuzzcutt@reddit
While lots of American tourists are clueless about foreign travel, sometimes the reason they do mad, busy itineraries is because they get such little holiday and have to cram it all in (on top of jet lag).
Minskdhaka@reddit
I mean it is easy, compared to travelling around many other countries. The density of the rail network in the UK and the frequency of your trains is hardly matched by any other country.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Wait till they experience our luxurious, flagship: M42✨
Vequihellin@reddit
The flagship 'smart motorway' that is now responsible for the absolute shitshow that is the M27 between Fareham and Southampton? So luxury. Much envy.
If you want a luxurious motorway, the M6 toll is elite. Of course for a truly British traffic experience, you can't beat the M25 and to fully enjoy the scope of roadworks on offer, the M1 is perpetually under maintenance. Honourable mentions to the concrete OG M6 that will give you vibration white finger through your steering wheel and perpetual white-noise tinnitus, the endless torture of the A34, and the roulette wheel that is the M3.
OurManInJapan@reddit
I mean it objectively is easy to get around.
jaymatthewbee@reddit
Unless you’re trying to get to Sheffield from Manchester
horoscopical@reddit
I've taken that exact train before and it was horrific. So crowded you had to just stand in one spot and not move. I'm all for public transport, but that just left me wishing I'd driven.
evenstevens280@reddit
It's insanely easy to get around. You can get from any city to pretty much any other city by train without much planning.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Without much planning? That’s insane! I once had a 2hr delay because a tree had fallen on a line at Oxford which had delayed the driver that was operating my train at Birmingham! They ended up cancelling the train!
evenstevens280@reddit
I mean it's actually quite rare that trains are entirely cancelled, especially long distance ones.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Easy to get around? The only major motorway that cuts through Wales is the M4 and that is only in the south, east to west. There are no other major motorways in Wales, A/B roads and national speed limit country roads.
jaynoj@reddit
There's a saying;
"In the US, 100 years is a long time, but in Europe, 100 miles is a long way"
chadgalaxy@reddit
I was once asked by an American in Nebraska if we have cars in England.
I was baffled why he would think we didn't considering like, every country on the planet has cars, and it turns out he thought England was so small we could just walk everywhere.
pajamakitten@reddit
I mean, I could walk 500 miles...
karmacarmelon@reddit
Would you walk 500 more?
oliviashrewtonbong@reddit
Thinking it's unsafe and we dodge knife crime at every turn
Transasaurus-Hex@reddit
This. Influencers make it seem like London is a warzone. Like, I wouldn't be carrying my phone in broad daylight, but I also wouldn't be doing that in any large city.
scarby2@reddit
What? I carry my phone in bread daylight in every major city?
Ok-Error2510@reddit
Well its safe if its wrapped in a sandwich
Minskdhaka@reddit
As do I. Including in London, when I'm visiting.
Transasaurus-Hex@reddit
I mean, risk mitigation, isn't it? I have my kids with me most of the time (and I'm also disabled), so i can't exactly run down someone who grabs it out my hand.
The risk of someone grabbing it out my hand is 0 if I keep it in my pocket.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
"London" (which parts, anyway?) is basically a chocolate box village compared to actually dangerous places like Rio de Janeiro and Johannesburg.
ThereAndFapAgain2@reddit
This is a bit of a weird one, there are plenty of large cities where you can carry your phone on broad daylight lol
Hame_Impala@reddit
To be fair London’s genuinely much bigger than most large European cities you’ll visit. For population, tourism etc it’s a proper global megacity. Pickpocketing/theft is obviously somewhat ripe in some central areas but some other major European cities (Barca in particular) have a reputation for that too.
Great_Cucumber2924@reddit
I do in London and never had an issue
bibonacci2@reddit
Yeah, I’m likely to keep it out of sight in the very touristy areas but I have it out if I need it the rest of my time. I see other people doing the same.
The whole Londonistan thing is pure propaganda - I was in Baltimore recently and had someone ask me about it. Yes, that Baltimore - home of “The Wire”. A city that has successfully halved its murder rate to 22 per 100k inhabitants (from 44 in 2023) but that’s still 20 times the rate in London.
Educational_Cow111@reddit
Baltimore is hauntingly beautiful, but let’s be honest London is much safer 😂
bibonacci2@reddit
It was fine. The harbour area has been gentrified. Some decent restaurants and a good aquarium.
Being aware of the numbers, I didn’t wander too far from that area, though. I would have taken a baseball game (the stadium is supposed to be good) but they weren’t playing at home while I was there, unfortunately.
marshmellowfoisgras@reddit
It's still a risk. You can have your pockets picked or your bag stolen in any large city
HarketSavoy@reddit
I do in London and every city. I’ve been mugged three times. All in the same hometown, by seagulls. Those are the real threat in certain towns.
Transasaurus-Hex@reddit
I think someone tried to mug me in Peterborough once, but I was too autistic to realise until significantly later
Sensitive_Tomato_581@reddit
Happily with my phone out in Manchester yesterday, along with everyone else. Wouldnt wave it around on the edge of the pavement or crossing the road but I'm not an idiot !!
Maus_Sveti@reddit
Funny thing is, I’ve lived in Brussels for 12 years now, and you hear much the same things about crime and gangs and terrorism. However, I always carry my phone in my hand when I’m in the city (Brussels or elsewhere), and feel that’s safer than in a bag or pocket where pickpockets can get to it. So either there is an underlying difference in the kind of petty thefts that go on, or there’s a difference in the media reporting.
Educational_Cow111@reddit
I do carry my phone in broad daylight sorry everyone 😭
Leucurus@reddit
Influencers? Russian and American bot farms and AI content mills.
Transasaurus-Hex@reddit
That too, unfortunately there are influencers who make money off of the same content mills. Truly parasites latching onto whatever they can.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Can confirm. I’ve just seen an insta story of a lad sinking 4 desperados and then jumping in the ocean at Barry Island. Absolute soldier on the frontlines.
goin-up-the-country@reddit
What's funny is that the US knife crime rate is higher than the UK's by a significant margin. But because gun crime is even higher and gets most of the attention, Americans aren't even aware.
Colonel_Disarray@reddit
This is very clever way to sweep under the rug your knife crime problem - make gun crime way worse so all the attention is focused on it.
Not_A_Clever_Man_@reddit
US murder rate per capita is close to 5x that of the UK. You are safer in almost every UK city compared to the US.
Due_Strawberry_1001@reddit
. Kind of a low bar.
xxxxxxxxxooxxxxxxxxx@reddit
And then we come full circle, 5x the raw foam extremely safe you try is still very safe, an that gun crime is usually between gang bangers in ghetto areas, but you see people ok here assuming the average American is dodging bullets every day, just as people are convinced going to London requires a stab prof vest.
While every knife death is a tragedy, statistically it’s so small that it may as well be considered a non-issue, but UK media loves to whip people into a frenzy.
I’ve lived in some sketchy (not ghetto, but a little rough) parts of both the US and the UK and I consider both to be very safe countries generally.
McKendrigo@reddit
"you see people ok here assuming the average American is dodging bullets every day"
No. No you don't.
But hey, if you want to try and put some positive spin on why your country is 5x more violent than other developed nations, then you do you.
Not_A_Clever_Man_@reddit
FYI actual statistics do not back up your claims. ( https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-highest-rates-of-gun-homicides-are-in-rural-counties/ )
Gun crime per capita is higher in rural areas, the number of gun crimes is higher in urban areas. As a gun owner myself, I try and educate people on the reality that areas with low gun control ( rural ) are more dangerous than areas with high gun control ( citites). Gun control works to reduce crime, and we shouldn't overlook gun violence just because its between deprived groups ( i.e. your stereotype).
Again for some information on where the US stands regarding global murder rates, it lags behind almost all developed countries at 75th worst out of 205. If that is how you would like to describe "extremely safe" go for it. I would argue there is significant room for improvement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
scarby2@reddit
But what op is right about is that gun crime is usually between people who know each other. Strangers getting shot happens but is pretty rare especially if you're not doing something that makes you at high risk of crime
Not_A_Clever_Man_@reddit
Unfortunately you are correct. You are mostly likely to be killed by either yourself (in the case of men) or your romantic partner (in the case of women), in both cases your killer will be known to you.
Now, either way, I would love to see fewer murders in the USA, but I don't see the cultural change required happening any time soon.
CurrentlyHuman@reddit
"We're just innocent men"
Minskdhaka@reddit
The US is not "very safe", though, unless you're comparing it to Haiti or something. It's an outlier among developed countries with its homicide rate, and worse in this regard than many developing countries as well. Bangladesh is a case in point (my father is from there, and I lived there myself for a while). The homicide rate in the US is 2.5 times higher than that of Bangladesh, even though the US is 17th on the Human Development Index, while Bangladesh is 130th. One would think the US would try hard to be safer than a country that's 113 spots below it in terms of economic development. But no.
TheBestBigAl@reddit
Every time that is brought up, there will be some moron saying "of course it's higher, the population is much larger". The words "per capita" get ignored completely.
Critical_Hedgehog451@reddit
I would assume because they don't know what per capita means lool
Vivid_Sun_5636@reddit
Maybe they think “per capita” means it’s the opinion of a crap government outsourcing company, so the data must be wrong?
Silly-Industry1527@reddit
The US has a lot more people per capita than the UK though.
mysilvermachine@reddit
By volume.
78Anonymous@reddit
measured in gallons too
TotallyStressedMe@reddit
Weight
Ratiocinor@reddit
Exactly, and did anyone mention yet that the US is super big?
Like really really big?
So big a European mind cannot comprehend it?
There that should explain it
cannarchista@reddit
Don't forget that US states are also more diverse than all European countries put together, because some of them call fizzy drinks soda and some call them pop. That should also help explain it.
one_pint_down@reddit
Or they'll say its mostly gang related, so it only happens in bad areas. Ignoring that's probably the case everywhere.
Metrobolist3@reddit
I think some Americans think that because we all speak some form of English that the UK is like some colony of the US (ironically) when we're culturally different, and by extension that violent crime in the UK is just like in the US but minus guns.
AudioLlama@reddit
British people buy the GBnews stories that London is a warzone, so we can't really blame the yanks too badly.
epicmindwarp@reddit
TikTok is full of this shit.
Even people who live in Kent think we're getting stabbed twice a day.
thunder_consolation@reddit
I mean I've already been stabbed eight times and I've not even left the house yet
epicmindwarp@reddit
May as well go out and get the full set.
Nosey2parker@reddit
We don’t 😂
horoscopical@reddit
If people get their world view from TikTok and Instagram they're bound to be misinformed about virtually everything.
epicmindwarp@reddit
These people are allowed to vote too.
WitchyRedhead86@reddit
We’re doomed. 💀
TurkishSte@reddit
I’ve got a mate who’s never been to London keep sharing negative content about Sadiq khan, mate he’s nowt to do with us 😂
Bossman_Mike@reddit
The Americans also think every inch of England is a caliphate.
Auchensh00gle@reddit
My brother who now lives abroad but lived in the UK for 30 years has come to believe that knife crime is rife in the UK and it's not safe to go out
rosiet1001@reddit
British diaspora are the worst for the insistence that the UK is unsafe.
NaiveCarry132@reddit
true, and that's largely because we move to a safer country so our standards are higher. when i go back to the uk im shocked at the crime rates
Auchensh00gle@reddit
You're not wrong. I think it's a validation of their decision to leave the UK
Opinion87@reddit
I'm dodging knives here just to reply to this.
BrightSignal8032@reddit
Most we have to worry about is a cyclist snatching our phones out our hands
turdkuter@reddit
I live in the North East US and in having visited the UK and been all over I gotta say I never once felt unsafe. Even walking around in the middle of the night alone. I cannot say the same about home home
SM7DB@reddit
Literally shape shifting to Neo just to get a packet of biscuits from Asda.
Eddie_F_17@reddit
What biscuits are you getting?
crispycat40@reddit
Wouldn’t happen in Waitrose.
Blind_Warthog@reddit
Literally.
Nevernonethewiser@reddit
To be fair I've dodged knife crime for my entire life, never been near it or seen it or anything.
jdthejerk@reddit
My ship made a visit to Portsmouth when I was a young sailor of 20. I have to admit, that was one of the safest places we went. Took a train to London for a day. We never felt in danger.
coppertruth@reddit
Tbf I work with international students and they’re often subject to crime and discrimination after moving here. Many report not feeling safe
MD564@reddit
Social media doom I fear causes this. My own parents who live out in the countryside, think this too.
Educational_Cow111@reddit
It feels extremely safe for me even in the godawful areas I grew up in it felt relatively safe in them all! There’s a reason UK nightlife is huge
Jaded-Wrongdoer-5932@reddit
Thinking we all love the Royal Family
Jaded-Wrongdoer-5932@reddit
Constantly swapping England/English and Britain/British in alternate sentences (although tbf loads of the English do that and it’s infuriating as a Welsh persob)
_Cridders_@reddit
One thing I've seen is although we're much smaller than America, say, you still can't "pop" to Manchester from London, that's not just round the corner 😂
claridgeforking@reddit
You absolutely can just pop from Manchester to London. For whatever reason, we just generally wouldn't consider it a thing to do.
Jaded-Wrongdoer-5932@reddit
plus train fares in the UK are ridiculously expensive
claridgeforking@reddit
They can be, but generally not so long as you book in advance.
ItGetsEverywhere1990@reddit
What people forget for Londoners too is, it’s one thing getting a train from Euston to Man.Picc. But we’ve often had to get to Euston from Forest Hill or wherever first so have ALREADY travelled an hour before the actual journey starts.
That reminds me of when an American company offered me a job that was based in Watford. I asked about relocation costs. They were confused as ‘it’s just an hour from Paddington.’ ‘Yes’ I said ‘but I live 1.5hrs from Paddington and the working hours are 9-8. So when do I sleep if I’m travelling 2.5hrs each way?’
They think we live beside the major terminals? Idk.
claridgeforking@reddit
I don't disagree but I think there is also something to the fact we don't really market "long distance" day tourism much in this country. I think people in London would be more likely to consider a day trip to Paris as a viable option than they would a day trip to York for example.
rocketscientology@reddit
The posts in UKtravel that are like “we will be based in London, planning a day trip to Edinburgh and then popping over to Cornwall the next day” always tickle me
SirDooble@reddit
For some reason it's always the people spending the shortest amount of time in the country who want to see literally everything. They'll be over for 3-4 days and want to do all the tourist spots in London, then Stone Henge, then Manchester, Edinburgh and Glasgow, and usually some odd spot in the middle of nowhere that you've no idea why it's on their list.
Then someone who's spending two weeks here is tentative about whether they'd have time to do London and visit one other place.
Jaded-Wrongdoer-5932@reddit
Manchester???
ItGetsEverywhere1990@reddit
Americans and their 12 days of annual leave. I became so familiar with these patterns when I spent a couple of months mooching around Italy. They get on cruises and rush around hot spots trying to cram everything in. It’s miserable.
Sea-Command3437@reddit
Is the odd spot in the middle of nowhere where their great great great grandparent came from?
redseaaquamarine@reddit
So they can walk the streets that they* did.
*person who is a name on a list
this-guy-@reddit
I thought no Americans were descended from English (or Welsh ). They are all of Irish descent or Scottish, surely ?
That one great great grandparent who bravely battled the oppression, etc.
KeyPhilosopher8629@reddit
I love that sub so so much, some of the travel plans are shockingly bad to a new degree
_Cridders_@reddit
Haha I got chatting to some guys at a gig in Camden once, they said they wanted to go to this club afterwards, did I want to come with them. I said I'd never heard of it, so I looked it up and it was in Liverpool. I said, "You're having a laugh aren't you?" 😂😂😂
Bobby_-_D@reddit
Lots of tourists seem to get confused that Liverpool and Liverpool street are not the same. Lots of tourists that actually make it to Liverpool think that's where Abbey road is and get disappointed they can't recreate the Beatles photo.
OldGodsAndNew@reddit
There must be at least one person in history who's ended up at Charing Cross (Glasgow) when they were attempting to get to Charing Cross (London)
Lishmi@reddit
When my dad was a taxi driver in Stratford (upon Avon), he was offered to take a man to London, who was meant to be in Stratford, London. Not sure how he got that so wrong, but I imagine it was an expensive taxi ride!!
(My dad gave it to the next guy as he was about to clock off and wanted to get home)
Bossman_Mike@reddit
I saw a post online years ago about Americans doing this the wrong way round. Someone was on a train with American tourists who were huge Shakespeare fans.
For some reason, they were coming in from somewhere in East Anglia... so of course the obvious and understandable thing to do is book tickets for Stratford.
Ethelred_Unread@reddit
At Abbey Road station.
Easy mistake to make though.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
I think that is quite a sweet little sign actually, may as well make it whimsical as people are kinda going to assume Abbey Road is next to Abbey Road station.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
It was so stupid and so avoidable, though. Pretty much everyone including the local council and MP warned about that but of course TfL knew best.
marmighty@reddit
St John's Wood is the only tube station not to contain any letters from the word "mackerel"
ContributionIll5741@reddit
I've heard this causes confusion in Norwich train station, as the trains to London Liverpool St and Liverpool Lime St go from adjacent platforms 😂
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Fuck me Yanks are priceless when you’re drinking with them😂
AdministrativeShip2@reddit
Most of the time they'll have one or two bottled beers and think thats a night out.
_Cridders_@reddit
"In America they say, "Let's go for beers", and have two, maybe three beers and then go home. In Britain they say, "Fancy a pint?", and then have seventeen and wake up naked in a telephone box"
SilyLavage@reddit
On the flip side, British people do tend to over-estimate how hard it is to get around. You can make day trips from Manchester to North Wales or Newcastle to the Lakes, it's not that long a drive.
TheSecretIsMarmite@reddit
Yes but at least they're in the general vicinity of each other.
SilyLavage@reddit
They're two hours apart, and a four hour round trip is more than enough to put a lot of Brits off in my experience.
Low-Cauliflower-5686@reddit
I've done Scotland to London by day trips, not by car if course
Educational_Cow111@reddit
LMAOOOI
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
Even better: I’ve had people tell me about “doing” cornwall in a day without a car.
I’ve been a buswanker in Cornwall, in the summer. You spend a lot of time stuck on single track roads not moving
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
That day consisted of 2 hedges and a reversing cam😂😂😂
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
Did you also try to get the number 56 literally ever? 4 1/2 hours to get to Padstow and back 🤦♂️
dbxp@reddit
You can by train, it's just two hours, it can take you that long to get across LA
GenGaara25@reddit
I know the word "pop" is vague, but I'd argue 4-5 hours of travel there and back constitutes more than a pop.
dbxp@reddit
Lots of people in the US commute 2 hours everyday, it's really not a big deal to them
Vequihellin@reddit
To be fair, it can take you that long to get from Portsmouth to Southampton. People seem to forget how to drive when it's raining and there's an accident every 1/4 mile all the damn way.
bored_toronto@reddit
I remember seeing an American at the car rental place at King's Cross mention he needed to be at St Andrew's for tee time. Stupid sod.
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
To be fair, London to St Andrews isn't that bad if you go via public transport. Hop into Kings Cross Station, get the LNER to Aberdeen and it goes through Leuchars, a village just outside St Andrews. Catch the bus (right outside the train station) which comes every 10 minutes and goes right into town. It takes around 6 hours, but it's straightforward.
Don't know why he'd bother driving, which is a longer, more complicated journey.
bored_toronto@reddit
He was American. Their identity is based around cars.
Happylittlecultist@reddit
2.5 hours by train. Not exactly pop but day trip or to see a gig or something is possible.
Vequihellin@reddit
We won tickets to Cirque to Soliel in Manchester. We flew up from Southampton, got the fun little tram into Manchester and walked/trammed everywhere after that. It was a 40m flight at most. 10/10 would do it again.
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
We're not just smaller than America, we're also significantly smaller than Germany and less than half the size of metropolitan France. What makes us different is how 'thin' we are coast to coast in most places, something that we often look past (with of course the big exception being like Cornwall to Kent/East Anglia ish). Our land's shape is generally very similar to Italy's.
Rude_Rhubarb1880@reddit
Best one I’ve seen was a road trip over Christmas (when everything is shut) which involved 10 to 12 hours of driving and spending actual Christmas Day having a meal in a motorway service station
I’m convinced a good proportion of itinerary from Americans are pure trolling.
Totally mental stuff like: I’m staying in London and have a morning free Shall I use the time to go to Stonehenge and Edinburgh Castle or visit Wales and Peak District instead.
Or:
I have a two hour lay over at Heathrow, is that enough time to watch changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace?
Normal-Height-8577@reddit
Very few Americans know that Wales even exists.
I've seen so many people going "I want to tour the UK - I've pencilled in London, Cornwall, Stonehenge, 'Cotswold', York, Edinburgh, Loch Ness, the Isle of Skye, Belfast, Dublin and the Blarney Stone...Am I missing anything?"
And you're like, well for one thing, Ireland isn't part of the UK any more. It's a lovely place to visit, but did you mean to go there? Also, the Cotswolds is a very big area, not a single location. And also: Wales.
SirDooble@reddit
Poor Wales. Truly beautiful country with so much to see, but I feel like none of its destinations have had as much success with international recognition. Probably doesn't help that half the time Americans see anything of it in media, it's been dressed up as an alien planet for Doctor Who.
wildeaboutoscar@reddit
Part of it in terms of America might also be that fewer people emigrated to the US from Wales in comparison to Scotland and Ireland (note- this is purely an assumption I could be wrong). So it's not talked about as much as there's no 'family' connection
Jaded-Wrongdoer-5932@reddit
not really true. Large Welsh-descended communities in Pennsylvania for example. My aunt emigrated in the sixties there and there is a lot of awareness of Welsh roots
Jaded-Wrongdoer-5932@reddit
ironic as quite a few of the American founding fathers were Welsh or partially Welsh
Hame_Impala@reddit
Maybe for the best, help them avoid some of the overtourism we have in Scotland.
GlumAd9856@reddit
You forgot Clarkson's farm.
GeekHabits@reddit
Lucky Wales
Eddie_F_17@reddit
Reading all those places, all I could think was how much it would cost to see them all. Probably about £1k on travel if you plan it right!
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Trying hard to keep it that way😂
Normal-Height-8577@reddit
Yeah, fair! I will admit that the few times someone's asked for favourite places in Wales, there's always part of me thinking "But I love those places because they're quiet and not crowded - I don't want to tell everyone where they are!"
No-Zombie9567@reddit
I've been with family in a small town on Christmas Day, where i've been approached by Americans asking where to get some food, as they'd been told London closes for Christmas so they went elsewhere.
pajamakitten@reddit
Which is silly because London will have loads of places open on Christmas. Hell, pubs are open across the country on Christmas.
Bossman_Mike@reddit
What I don't understand is why TfL has a complete shutdown on Christmas Day. There are tens of thousands of people working, lots of car-less younger people who might want to visit folks, plus London is so diverse there will be plenty of non-Christians or people who just don't care about Christmas who would be happy to drive a bus for a few hours.
FlounderAnxious9965@reddit
I mean tbf most pubs close at 5 on Christmas Day and won’t take walk ins on food, out of experience. But there’s Deliveroo etc.
No-Zombie9567@reddit
You know what these Facebook & Travel groups are like. They warn tourists that there is nothing at all to do on Christmas Day.
GlumAd9856@reddit
I was working with some expats who decided to take their families on a joint holiday at Christmas to Wales . . . . and were then surprised that everything was shut.
No_Base4946@reddit
> as they'd been told London closes for Christmas so they went elsewhere.
I would've thought you'd at least find a Chinese restaurant open and busy enough in Golders Green...
No-Zombie9567@reddit
Or Edgware road has a plethora of places open
No_Base4946@reddit
I would think most parts of London have somewhere open on Christmas Day for dinner.
The mosque down the road from where I used to live in Glasgow used to be open invitation for Christmas dinner. One year they actually had a guy from the council come and ask them to turn about half their Christmas lights off at night because the sheer intensity was waking people up three streets away.
They love them some Christmas cheer, those guys.
paolog@reddit
Aw, c'mon, buddy - Wales can't be that far. The Princess of Wales was from London!
pickindim_kmet@reddit
I saw a video that popped up recently where an American tourist was in London and decided to go to Liverpool for a day. The distance might be normal for them but I don't think any Brit - unless they have to - is doing that for pleasure.
Maus_Sveti@reddit
I never get the argument that they are used to long distances, anyway. Not like they have more hours in the day than the rest of us.
Rude_Rhubarb1880@reddit
Agreed. A day trip like that is normally due to work and it’s only a day trip because work won’t pay for a hotel for a night
pickindim_kmet@reddit
My dad still tells me 30 years later about the work trip he did from Newcastle to Portsmouth. He did it there and back in a day and he's still traumatised by it. He saw white road lines moving towards him all night in bed.
Dans77b@reddit
At the same time plenty of Brits go to NYC thinking they can have lunch at Niagra Falls. We are all as stupid as each other.
Rude_Rhubarb1880@reddit
LOL no they dont!
Dans77b@reddit
They do, Im a Brit, but Ive lived in both countries, and if im honest, Ive had more experience of Brits underestimating distances than yanks.
But if we are honest, mist people dont appreciate distances when they go abroad.
TMI2020@reddit
The travel agent I booked my first trip to NYC many years ago with did…as soon as I got home and looked up my hotel I realised that I was a 7 hour drive from Manhattan and had to get them to change it.
Moppo_@reddit
That sounds great, I can't be arsed with Christmas Dinner.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
They say the same of us, at least that is theoretically possible. We regularly forget that their states are the size of countries. I have seen this before about Christmas - I get the impression this time is sold to tourists as being this magical romantic thing, but they find the day itself and period after everything is just shut.
ThrowRAkitty13@reddit
Can't help but laugh everytime I see posts like that where tourists think they can do a 5 day road trip across the whole of Britain, all you're going to see is a lot of motorway and not a lot of actual destinations.
CommunicationFit4564@reddit
I was once on a train into work on a Saturday around 11am. The train goes from Carlisle to Newcastle and is almost always full of very drunk people heading into Newcastle for a big full day session. There was these 2 American tourists and they were asking me what the big occasion was, why the train was so rowdy… I was like well it’s Saturday…this happens every week. They were horrified
BuncleCar@reddit
There are plenty of Americans with channels on YouTube who'll explain what it's like here, as they now live here. I'd suggest
Naps and Adventures (she's Canadian, but same principle)
Girl Gone London
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Thanks for that, I’ll definitely check them both out. A guy pops up on my FB occasionally that moved here when he married and talks about his experience compared to the US.
He discovered bubble stingy’s recently along with the remedy lol.
BuncleCar@reddit
When you watch one of them plenty more will appear in the suggestions. It's a popular subject
Jimmy-The-Perv@reddit
I often say something a lot of people get wrong about this country is how much freedom we actually have.
For example, before the war, I went to Ukraine. Did Chornobyl and Kyiv, and during the walking tour of Kyiv, he pointed out the Bank of Ukraine. I innocently asked if we can go in there.
He gave me a snort of derision and answered "of course not. Can you just walk into the Bank of England off the street?!" "Well, yeah......"
In hot weather, we can go to a park and get drunk, or even drink on the street. We can just walk into Parliament during PMQs. We can spend 10 minutes of Companies House setting up a business. You can (within the incredibly lenient rules) just pitch a tent in the middle of Scotland and camp overnight.
It often startles people how much we can actually freely do in this country. Even British people sometimes.
chadgalaxy@reddit
I remember being screamed at by a police officer in the US for walking over a small, completely empty road without using the crossing. He made us walk 100m down the street to the crossing point, wasn't a single car in sight.
horoscopical@reddit
I've had Germans over here whom I've had to practically force to cross the road because they're trained to always use a crossing.
Majestic-Camel2927@reddit
Germans are so bad for this. “It’s a bad example for the children” they say, mate, there is NOTHING on the road just cross already.
lottesometimes@reddit
tbf theres lots of plain clothes officers enforcing fines if you cross a red traffic light
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
I had similar. They even went for their gun!
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Something I became aware of recently is that apparently, when fuelling up at petrol stations in the US, you have to prepay. Even if it’s physically manned.
I know we have that here for self service but to me that was strange.
Free_Ad7415@reddit
Oh it’s so annoying . Especially because you’re obviously on holiday in a rental car, have no idea how much fuel costs and have no idea how much you need. So you kind of under guess (cos you have no idea what happens if you pay too much) and then have to do it all again.
Loads of them you actually have to walk in and queue to pay then go back out and pump as well. So silly
Routine_Ad1823@reddit
I remember discovering this on a work trip, and then subsequently prepaying like fifty bucks at every field stop, getting the expenses reciept, then getting the unused amount back in cash. A wee bit naughty I guess, but I took it as a per diem
Jimmy-The-Perv@reddit
Canada does that too.
We hired a car in Toronto, drove to Niagara Falls and back, then had to fill it up before returning it.
Fortunately Canadian fuel is hilariously cheap, so pre-paying $30 was enough.
BelledeJour71@reddit
That British people are generally friendly and welcoming. I think nowadays many aren't. I think since COVID it has been very noticeable how dreadful and selfish a lot of Brits are now (sadly).
My British born uncle (emigrated to the US 40-odd years ago) noticed a shift the last time he visited. He is a man who is always enthusiastic and speaks to anyone. He couldn't beleive the change in people since the last time he was here.
Unpopular opinion but decades of experience in the hospitality industry and meeting people from all over the world. Americans were always my favourites and I found them the friendliest.
I suspect many Brits now take 'fly and flop' holidays rather than exploring further afield and experiencing different cultures and this has maybe made many of us a bit more 'stiff.' When I was young, everyone longed to see America.
It is very true that travel does broaden the horizons and makes an open-minded, enthusiastic and interestng person as opposed to a miserable idiot who sits on Facebook all day posting about migrantion.
SopranoCrew@reddit
totally disagree. visited nottingham and leeds a few months ago from the US and everyone was nothing but nice.
BelledeJour71@reddit
I am glad to read that.
iamtherarariot@reddit
As a Notts girly you picked some great places to visit! Hope you had a good time :£
SopranoCrew@reddit
I had the time of my life lol, it made me wanna look into studying abroad for the rest of my degree if possible.
ThatGirlFromClimbing@reddit
What baffles me is the number of people who love travelling and visiting different countries, but have barely explored the UK beyond their own area or their annual holiday to the same town in Devon. There is a lot to be said and gained from exploring the UK more.
BelledeJour71@reddit
So true!
wildeaboutoscar@reddit
I would love to (and am trying to) but it's much harder to get around the UK if you don't drive than it is to go to some other countries.
Also in some cases it's cheaper to stay in another country than in a hotel in the UK. I agree we should all be doing more to explore though.
iamtherarariot@reddit
The fly and hop holidays I suspect are due to affordability. Also I used to want to go to America but I won’t be going under the current administration. I’ll happily go to Canada, but not the US.
I do think you’re on the money about people being ruder though unfortunately.
BelledeJour71@reddit
Agree and thank you.
amberthezombie@reddit
I don't think anybody wants to go to America anymore because their political climate is completely fucked. I've travelled all over the world but you couldn't pay me to step foot in America as a woman right now.
BelledeJour71@reddit
I wouldn't go there now, either (unless to visit my family there). It does not have the appeal it had 30 years ago. Far from it.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I understand what you’re trying to say, but also take into account what’s happened since COVID. We’re all struggling as a people and it’s miserable, but maintaining cohesion is our best option right now.
And regarding Americans, I think they’re great people, when you speak to them individually and get to know them, they’re very profound people. It’s just a shame that because they’re on the main stage so much, their PR takes a huge hit which affects the everyday citizens who are not so different from us.
BelledeJour71@reddit
You are of course right. Folk struggled in the 1970's (my parents did) but they were not miserable. They were happy. The difference now is economic difficultly + isolation. At least in the 70's, people socialised with friends and neighbours, dinner parties, visited pubs and casinos, played sport and worked together.
Low-Cauliflower-5686@reddit
To be honest, most people I know and work with just go on regular holidays to Spain, Blackpool and Florida. I know in more working class areas, going to more unusual places is seen as uppity. I went to Japan and a colleague asked why would I go there when I could go to Tenerife
BelledeJour71@reddit
Precisely.
Which-Wing-366@reddit
that its hellbent on brainwashing its people with mental health act only to toss them aside and treat them like dirt when they create the problems in the first place
ghoarder@reddit
Thinking the UK is London
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
There’s more tourism in the UK than just London. We have a huge range of historical sites, medieval villages, 3 national mountains which brings in tourists, old battle grounds, war memorial, castles. Cities like Manchester which have strong roots in the industrial revolution.
The UK has lots to see for those willing to read.
North_Still_2234@reddit
There's a lot more than 3 mountains across the UK
LiliWenFach@reddit
And you can't climb yr Wyddfa in two hours. No, you can't catch a train from Betws y Coed that will take you 'directly to the bottom of the mountain'. Neither is there a train that will deposit you back at Llandudno Junction station in time to catch the ferry train by 6pm. It's a mountain, it's 3pm on a Sunday, it's April and you're wearing shorts and flip flops. No, sir, you are not 'going for a quick walk to the top of Snowdon' today.
Husband and I eavesdropped on that very conversation between a tourist information officer and an English man in Betws. I thought the lady at the counter displayed admirable restraint as she explained to him why none of that would be possible.
Sad_Supermarket_2074@reddit
One of my favourite past times when I need a chuckle is reading the TripAdvisor reviews for Yr Wyddfa (yes, really, that's a thing).
bad_dancer236@reddit
Same in the Lakes. Tourists rock up to the desk in cargo shorts and trainers asking for best places to park for their hike. “Do you have hiking gear? No? You’re not going up Helvellyn, then, mate. Yes, I know you want a photo on Striding Edge, but you’ve got to walk all the way up there and all the way back down to get that.”
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
And don’t forget to mention the completely unreliable public transport in the valleys. Hour long wait times in between buses in the middle of a village. The treacherous journey from Treforest Estate platform to civilisation!
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I could’ve mentioned more yes, Pen Y Fan comes to mind as my personal favourite but I decided to reference the 3 largest summits in GB as it seemed more relevant.
North_Still_2234@reddit
I'm sure "3 largest summits" isn't what you mean, as the 3 largest are all in Scotland. I think you mean the highest in each country of GB.
These things are important to mountain baggers.
Lost_Afropick@reddit
Thinking London is the busy tourist areas in Zone 1
Northerners are guilty of this in London. "A pint cost me £silly!". Yes. Yes it does in Charing Cross.
"I was in London and heard so many languages it's hardly England at all". That's because you were outside Big Ben or Tower Bridge.
lewisw1992@reddit
Or because census data tells us the majority of people living in London aren't even British...
Forsaken_Hat4607@reddit
The number of people in Scotland that have told me how they ‘don’t like London’ and it turns out they mean exclusively zone 1… well, yes, no one likes those bits of London. It’s like thinking Princes Street represents all of Edinburgh
Scottish_squirrel@reddit
This is a problem the UK has in general. London gets more and more tourist friendly things and the rest of the country is left "boring" or relying on its own history.
horoscopical@reddit
I quite like not living in London, but I do envy the number of events on down there I'd love to go to if I were closer.
And their airports are WAY better connected, both to the city, and to other airports.
Agitated_Nature_5977@reddit
Yeh lol Shrek experience etc. please don't distribute stuff like that up here in Scotland
Brewer6066@reddit
Good idea. Shrek is canonically Scottish so I think we should move it to Glasgow and get something better next to the aquarium.
Scottish_squirrel@reddit
I live in Glasgow. Always have done. I know there's stuff to do here but googling at the weekend the suggestions were basically kelvingrove, transport museum, football stadium tour or get a rabbies bus to the Highlands. Travel bloggers don't even know what to suggest up here.
Shrek experience would be top notch!
VOOLUL@reddit
For anyone significantly outside London, London might as well be a foreign country. It's so much different to the rest of the UK.
No_Technology3293@reddit
And Scotland is Edinburgh
elevatedupward@reddit
Edinburgh and Skye. And of course you can visit both in a day.
If you suggest that while technically you could it would be a complete waste of time, some of them get quite upset and regale you with stories about their regular 600 mile commute as if spending your life in a car means that your holidays should be spent the same way.
thierry_ennui_@reddit
I mean there are British people who ask London-specific questions on this very sub. Americans aren't the only ones making that assumption.
ghoarder@reddit
What? Like "Hello all of UK, which tube line do you use on a daily basis?" ?
thierry_ennui_@reddit
Yeah, I've seen people asking things like "is Holborn nicer than Peckham" etc as if people in Inverness will automatically have a handle on the intricacies of suburbs 500 miles away
Agitated_Nature_5977@reddit
Shhhh, Can we keep the bulk of them in London? I like having relaxing days out on a Saturday
OddSign2828@reddit
Thankfully most of them don’t make it past zone 2
Ragingdildo3@reddit
Thinking London is Croydon
GazRD1882@reddit
That we are a nation of tea drinkers. 60% of people at my work inc myself drink coffee. My wife prefers coffee, my parents prefer coffee.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
I feel like we are a nation of casual tea drinkers. It is at home, not really snobby about it, teabags in a mug. When outside the house people prefer coffee and it has to be the proper stuff, not instant.
Working-Ad-6698@reddit
Like only places outside home where I drink tea are like chippies and tea houses lol, drinking coffee in restaurant makes more sense somehow.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
There generally isn't a lot of craft in tea, many places will just give a teabag and hot water. Even if it is good tea, you are still just letting it brew yourself in a pot. I don't have an espresso machine at home, so makes sense to have a proper one when I am out.
SkullCowgirl@reddit
Around 10 yeas ago I kept seeing youtubers claim we don't even know what coffee is over here.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
Depends on the person really, some could easily claim people drinking chain coffee with a lot of milk which tends to be the norm aren't experiencing it "properly".
andthatmakestwo@reddit
Tea at home to relax coffee at work to focus for me
Forsaken_Hat4607@reddit
Tbf I know a lot of coffee drinkers (or people who don’t normally drink either) who will still have a cup of tea from time to time and have a preference for how they make it and etc, but not anywhere near as many the other way round. I think tea is still more of a default drink than coffee is, even if plenty of people are regular coffee drinkers. It probably depends on area and demographic as well because at the last place I worked it was more of an 80/20 split in favour of tea
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Amount of people that stop drinking altogether due to the caffeine due. I know there’s decaf but my mum doesn’t like it.
CoffeeIgnoramus@reddit
I have always worked in areas with international visitors, but I'm going to give you one of the weirdest ones I ever came across, so not common, just funny:
I have a young adult whose parents sent her over with an iron and ironing board from the US because they weren't sure this technology would exist in the UK.
AreaMiserable9187@reddit
My friend was in Edinburgh on her honeymoon when the Queen died. A family of Americans asked my friend if she was doing okay in the wake of the horrible news as if the Queen was her grandma.
pajamakitten@reddit
To be fair, the reaction when Diana died was pretty extreme here and you could be forgiven for thinking it would be like that when the Queen died.
Master_Piccolo_9178@reddit
You make a good point but I can't help pointing out the understatement. Pretty extreme? Half the country was certifiably batshit crazy.
pajamakitten@reddit
I was only five when it happened and it somehow passed me by entirely. I did not know she was dead until years after it happened. I am only going off what I have heard it was like.
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
It's not just Americans who do that though. My husband was working abroad when the Queen died, and had German colleagues coming up to him and saying "I'm sorry for your loss." It was sweet that they were concerned I guess.
barkley87@reddit
I was on holiday in Singapore and I got various locals and tourists saying the same to me.
onionsofwar@reddit
My company is quite international and during that time it happened a few times that the people overseas made a point of offering really sincere condolences to the British colleagues during calls.
It was hard to shake it off and make them understand that it wasn't a big deal without sounding harsh.
rice_fish_and_eggs@reddit
I mean tbf we did seem to collectively decide to stop using them about 10-15 years ago. I honestly cant remember the last time I ironed a pair of jeans or a t-shirt.
Routine_Ad1823@reddit
I thought you were talking about the Royals at first!
Works for both I guess.
And yeah, except for weddings and funerals I haven't ironed for about 20 years
klausness@reddit
What are you talking about? I use the royals all the time, especially on my jeans and t-shirts.
horoscopical@reddit
I own an iron but no ironing board. When I moved into my own place 3 years ago, an ironing board was one of those things to eventually get around to buying.
I still haven't.
CoffeeIgnoramus@reddit
... WHAT!!! No one told me, I ironed my underwear this morning and you're only just telling me that was unnecessary and no one does this anymore?!?!
(... oh and that story happened more than 15 years ago!)
life-ofthefuneral@reddit
On a holiday in Italy in like 2013 the Americans in front of us in a queue heard our accents and excitedly asked ‘how’s the baby?!’ After questioning they seemed to have assumed we would just KNOW they meant the royal baby???
chadgalaxy@reddit
I've heard of Americans turning up to Scotland expecting people to all be living in wooden huts like Braveheart and England expecting everything to be like Harry Potter and being absolutely baffled when greeted with large, modern cities with skyscrapers and stuff.
hdhxuxufxufufiffif@reddit
That's especially funny because if I'm not mistaken using a 110V iron in the UK would be dangerous.
PipBin@reddit
Years ago I was in the USA and had the news on. There was a piece about how Prince William had flown the air ambulance and picked this guy up. It was all how this bloke was so surprised that the Prince was flying the helicopter etc. It was in my home town and didn’t even make the local news….
CoffeeIgnoramus@reddit
Haha! yeah, I have married into a family that live in a different country and I learn more from them about our royals than I ever have from any fellow brit.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
LOL that ironing board is quality, it makes me wonder whether we’re exposed to other cultures a lot? Or they’re not exposed to them enough?
And I hate questions about the royals, I don’t care nor know anything about what they do. If they were relevant and actually ruled the country instead of parliament then fair enough but they’re just symbolic and have cool castles.
trustmeimabuilder@reddit
I was asked, in Sri Lanka, if I knew Princess Diana.
Sea-Still5427@reddit
Assuming that UK, Great Britain and England are the same thing and that money is synonymous with upper class.
Fucked-to-fit@reddit
I was talking to an American and told him I’m Scottish and his response was “oh so you live in Ireland?” Genuinely didn’t know what to say
Sea-Still5427@reddit
To be fair, I'm pretty sketchy on American geography.
j_ulienneee@reddit
heavy on the class differences
Sea-Still5427@reddit
Also mistaking passive aggression for politeness. They may not say it but they're judging you seven ways to Sunday.
Visible_Pressure_404@reddit
We’re a far more advanced, progressive and fair country than the one inhabited by the ungrateful tax dodgers across the pond.
Despite the right wing moral panics that get most of the air time, we’re far less racist, homophobic and misogynistic. And, mass shootings don’t have to be factored in to our educational policies.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Do think we take for granted that we don’t experience the same type of violence in our schools as compared to the US?
When I think back to my time in HS, there was never really any violent animosity towards others. Minority groups got along, there were fights of course but that’s normal. I could never imagine someone in my year, above and below that would ever want mass shoot the school though.
Fucked-to-fit@reddit
I’m not trying to undermine you or anything but as a mixed British person I have to say racism was rampant in my HS there wasn’t a single day where racist comments weren’t hurled at me.
School was hell and now 6 years later I still get nervous in most public settings because of it.
The one good thing I can say is that this sub and other UK based ones have started easing those fears.
twirling_daemon@reddit
I came across the odd kid that it wouldn’t have surprised me if they attempted some sort of mass atrocity
There were a couple very unsettling ones I went to school with, ran into them both years later and they still made me feel very uncomfortable/nervous which is highly unusual for me
But, fortunately here they have so many fewer options for causing such mass destruction that even if they did go off the impact they were likely to have is so diminished. There was a third odd bod but she was more likely to just harm herself and leave a ‘X reasons why’ naming those who she had an issue with
That was 3 in the entirety of my school life, and I never had to worry that they’d be able to obtain let alone bring in weapons capable of mass slaughter!
SnooBooks1701@reddit
Murders make national headlines in the UK because they're rare, mass shootings don't even always make national headlines in the US
Suitable-Tough5877@reddit
Just to say, this has been a massive turnaround in Paris in the last 20 years. People now hold doors open for you and apologise when you bump into them... I think all the online jokes finally got to them. It's still a thing in England too of course, but it's moving the wrong direction.
Mr_Blott@reddit
The "French people are rude" thing actually comes from the UK and US
In France, kids are brought up to respect people no matter what they do for a living; doctors are treated with the same respect as cleaners and waitresses.
The Brits and the yanks (generalisation here, just explaining where the stereotypes come from) will often ignore someone they don't see as equal to them, or talk down to them. For example, not saying hello to a shop assistant when entering the shop, clicking fingers to get someone's attention etc. The most common one they do is leaving a mess in rental accommodation because "the cleaners will get it and I'm paying them". French families generally don't do that.
You get poor Pierre who's had a shit day anyway, and some fat Hank or Barry speaks to him in a way that sounds fine to their ears, but is incredibly rude in his culture, of course he's going to be "peesed off"
The only other people I've heard complaining about the french are the touristy places in Greece and Spain; not so much rudeness; they just assume people speak french the same way everyone else assumes they speak English
Useful-Risk-4340@reddit
'Arrogant, rude French' is and has been a stereotype in many countries since forever. Many, many nations have history with France. I'm not saying the stereotype is accurate or fair (which are?) but it's not an Anglophone phenomenon. In the UK and US, genuine animosity toward France or French people is vanishingly rare, it's a silly joke.
I had an Italian boyfriend. Italians have a real love-hate relationship with France. To younger Italians it is mostly a joke, but I met many Italians who seemed to truly dislike the French. Honestly, it seemed like envy to me. I suffered secondhand embarrassment. French love Italy though, it's very one-sided.
Boofagoofdoof@reddit
Every time I've been to Paris I've had nothing but kindness (apart from one person, who was a knobhead but you get them everywhere). People even went out of their way to come and help me without being asked a couple of times, I loved it there. First visit was 40ish years ago, I got super lost on my own and everyone was lovely. So I never really understood the stereotype
dreamsonashelf@reddit
Holding doors open, helping people carry heavy things like prams or suitcases up/down stairs, saying "bonjour" when walking into a shop, a waiting room or a lift, etc, have always been standard in France, even in Paris. It's not something that's only started happening over the past 20 years.
Suitable-Tough5877@reddit
i disagree. Holding the door open was not the norm 20 years ago - if you held the door open for someone, half a dozen other people would have squeezed ahead of you. And it was normal that people barged into you without apologising. I don't particularly mean it as a criticism, in a way it's a bit pointless having to apologise to everyone you bump into on a crowded street. It's just what the norms were then.
Insila@reddit
Whaaaat? I admit it's been 5 years since I visited Paris last time, but my impression has always been that the French are polite and helpful, and that Parisians aren't french (according to the rest of France).
EmmaInFrance@reddit
I think that much of this idea of French people being rude is due to tourists being rude first, simply because they haven't bothered to learn the very basics of proper French etiquette.
Here, everytime that you intereact with someone - for example, in the street, in a shop including when you first enter, n a restaurant or even on walking into a room - you have to say "Bonjour" before saying anything else.
Tourists get cold or even rude reactions because they just don't do this.
If I walk past a member of staff in the supermarket, we will both say "Bonjour" to each other.
If I walk into a boulangerie, I say "Bonjour" to everyone inside. Same with waiting rooms.
If there's a massive queue, then I wait to say it until I reach the counter.
Even in big chains, staff will greet you as you walk past the tills, and you greet them back.
You should also say a quick "Merci, au revoir" and/or "Merci, bonne journée/fin d'après-midi/soirée", adding "à vous aussi", if they say it first.
Again, when ordering something, a simple "Je voudrais , s'il vous plaît" (I would like , please) goes a long way, rather than barking orders, especially the American "I'll get a ___"
Customer service here is usually more present and interactive than in the UK but, like the UK, it's still genuine and sincere, and nowhere near as obseqious as in the US.
Tipping is only required for exceptional service.
To be fair, even in France, everyone stereotypes les Parisiens , just like British people stereotype Londoners, but while it's mostly recognised as an over-generalisation, made in jest, there's also often resentment over Parisian second home owners, especially here in Brittany, and the 'Paris is the centre of the universe' attitudes - something that is also an issue in not just London, but Cardiff and Edinburgh too.
In my 20 years here, I have found the vast majority of French people to be very kind, welcoming and helpful - especially here in Brittany, but then, the French also recognise this region as being extremely friendly and welcoming.
Along with the rain we get, it's one of the many things it has in common with Wales - my original home.
In small towns and villages, there's still a very strong sense of community, and everyone looks out for each other.
When my kids were younger and out on their bikes, if they fell off, someone would stop their car to help them up.
I have had lifts from local people I've never met before when I had a flat battery and needed to get my kid from school.
Overseerer-Vault-101@reddit
100% moving in the wrong direction. No one says thanks anymore for kind gestures. You step to let someone through a tight spot first, you hold a door or a lift for them and nothing, lucky if you get eye contact let alone a smile. The plague of "don't engage for any reason" is getting bad here.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Like how Paris is losing the stereotype, can you see London losing it too? It’s the face of the UK and paints the rest of us as stabbers.
Barry from Swindon does not indulge in stabbings.
this-guy-@reddit
There are actually job vacancies for stabbers now. The tourist board has to hire them in to keep up the British vibe. It's sad really, we are losing our culture. I remember when it was all stabbings round here, my nan would stab 3 people on her way to the bingo.
No_Coyote_557@reddit
In my experience the French are rude to rude people and polite to polite people.
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
The presence of non-white people is not a sign that our civilization is collapsing
We don’t all revere the monarchy
And for people from you know where your great great grandmother’s supposed nationality does not interest us and doesn’t make you one of us. It especially doesn’t give you any kind of right to criticise the existence or supposed “problem” of non white Brits
mrmazola@reddit
I'm on holiday in Costa Rica at the moment and was chatting to a Canadian yesterday, when I told him I'm from London he said you must be glad to get away from hearing the Muslim call to prayer all the time. I said where the hell did you get that idea from, he said he saw it on tik tok.
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
I really resent when shit like that happens. Not only are they regurgitating the dumbest propaganda on earth, I hate that bigots assume I’m in their club.
wildeaboutoscar@reddit
Also who says that to a stranger in holiday? Bizarre behaviour
tay-tay-hay@reddit
What an absolute mood! I work with the public and I’m amazed by the number that assume I share their views without knowing me.
dobbynobson@reddit
I remember working in a posh shop, and a rich old American in a big hat who was waiting for his wife to spend the equivalent of my monthly salary started confiding in me about how they could never use the expensive gold rimmed dinner service because the 'help' would steal things when they were cleaning up, you know? He then started moaning about how they'd prefer not to employ Hispanic staff but that's all they could get. Like, what fucking planet are you on mate? I'm a 22 year old Londoner earning £8.50 an hour who doesn't employ staff, isn't a racist, and doesn't wear a daft hat, we are not the same.
Adept_Mouse_7985@reddit
I’m just imagining the rich Texan from the Simpsons. Minus the guns. Hopefully.
tay-tay-hay@reddit
So basically he was trying to brag and make himself look impressive to you with his big, overcompensating hat but failed to realise 22 year old Londoners on minimum wage (and most reasonable people) are put off by racism.
Dans77b@reddit
I think its interesting. I like when people explore their own ancestry. Ive never understood why Europeans get so upset about this one.
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
Read that last paragraph I wrote, surely you see why we don’t like that
Dans77b@reddit
I agree with your last paragraph I suppose, but in my experience, most Americans are genuinely just interested in their own family history. Ive spent many years in both countries, and honestly dont think I've experienced the 'preachy' thing you are alluding to - although I dont doubt it does happen.
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
And I never criticised being intersected in family history. I said that your distant ancestry doesn’t convene ancestry and to not act like it does
That’s the thing Europeans generally find objectionable.
Dans77b@reddit
Thats fair enough, I misunderstood you. But I think many of us in Europe find the very idea of an American calling themself Irish/Scottish/Italian etc objectionable. That in itself is obviously not a problem, and I find it flattering that they want to connect with us. Many Europeans would disagree though.
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
That's precisely the bit I find objectionable. I'm Scottish, because I live here. I don't mind Yanks coming over who are interested in their Scottish ancestry, or want to tell me about their great great granny who was Scottish. I do mind when they call themselves Scottish. Having distant Scottish ancestry, or visiting here once, doesn't make them Scots.
Dans77b@reddit
Why does it matter? In a world where people seem to be more divided, I like to see people making these kinds of connections to others.
I wish more British people had the same kind of interest in their past.
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
I think it demonstrates they have a cheap and shallow understanding of Scottish culture, if they think they can claim it for their own after one short trip. By all means, make connections, but you can do that without claiming every culture and people to be your own.
Question- would you have the same opinion if they went to Africa or Asia and claimed to be African or Asian based on some distant ancestor?
Dans77b@reddit
I dont think I'd see it any differently if im honest.
As long as they showed a genuine interest in the place. I think travelling across the world shows a genuine interest, even if it is just a short trip.
Adept_Mouse_7985@reddit
When you have to explain that a third generation Glaswegian Pakistani is more Scottish than they are…
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
Exactly! They often make it into a weird racial thing.
LilacMages@reddit
Tbh only the MAGA muppets belive that bollocks (par for the course though)
Zealousideal-Low3388@reddit
Not only them, go ask a reform voter “is London safe? If not, why not?”
And yk, ask them to clarify when they pointedly mention diversity or the heritage of the mayor
PuppyGirlRya@reddit
Our food isn't awful. Sure most isn't anything fancy but it's filling, tasty and will make you feel great after a cold and rainy day. I'm sick of seeing people wh aren't from here thinking we still eat like we're being bombed by the Germans.
KarlArmstrong9221@reddit
That is rains all the time. I’d happily swap the wind we constantly get for rain.
Purplemonkey78@reddit
Depends where you are. I live in Glasgow and it feels like it rains all the time…
Responsible-Link5739@reddit
I'm that old I remember using cash.
Sirlacker@reddit
Travel distances. The UK think 100.miles is a long distance and the US think 100 years is a long time definitely rings true. You see it on Reddit all the time
"Oh I'm just planning on visiting the UK for a few days and I want to do London, Manchester and Edinburgh in 3 days".
No, you absolutely don't want to do that. There are very few UK roads that you can actually just chill on, most of the roads are very engaging whether that's with traffic or just the nature of them not being very straight. Firstly its very tiring. Secondly, if you were to travel 60 miles at 60mph, it should take an hour theoretically. But it's more likely to take you 1hr30-1hr45 and this just gets worse the further you go. So by the time you've actually arrived at your destination, not only are you more tired than you thought you'd be, you also don't have as much time as you think you would have either.
Ratiocinor@reddit
I've given up explaining this to Americans because they just don't get it. I think they have to just experience it to understand it
"But it's only a 4h drive, I've driven that far just to go to a restaurant in the US"
Yeah nothing in the UK is "only a 4h drive". Any drive that long here means getting to a motorway and driving past, around, or through multiple cities. Heaven help you if any of those are at rush hour which is basically guaranteed to happen if you're on the road at that hour since we're such a dense island. And there will be traffic jams, roadworks, 50 average speed zones, accidents, or other delays because our roads are just over capacity so it will take longer than 4h for sure
That's the best case scenario. If you're driving 4h on A and B roads into the country like down here in the South West (no motorways) you will arrive at your destination exhausted
They think it's the same thing as driving an automatic 4h on a dead straight interstate through some area with 1 person per square mile and the odd random towns with population 500
watterpotson@reddit
As an Australian, 4 hours of driving in the UK is really no big deal.
I've done two long road trips in the UK. The travel days averaged out to about 3 hours of driving per day. And the non-travel days averaged out to about 1 hour of driving.
The longest travel days were about 6 hours of driving. We'd take breaks for morning tea, lunch, or to see something along the way. During the first trip we drove from Alnwick to Bakewell and decided to take the long way 'round and have lunch in the Peak District. We drove from North Wales to Scotland in one day during the second trip.
It's really not that tiring. Everything is new, it's exciting, super interesting, and not boring (which can be very draining). And you're on holiday. Totally different mind set.
Both times the hire car people were shocked by how much we drove, lol.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
The A30 towards SW is great fun though, goes up and down like a snake. Nightmare for fuel efficiency though.
Ratiocinor@reddit
"Fun" yes but fun means constant engagement which means tiring like the other commenter said
And the second you come off the A30, A38, or A303 in the south west you are on shitty little roads
Bossman_Mike@reddit
Mind you, I remember visiting the US one time and "just up the road" was 120 miles in a straight fucking line.
culturerush@reddit
The other thing with this is that cities in the UK are very different to the US in terms of car access at speed
Most cities in the US seem to have a highway going right through them (from my experience) so going from one city to another may be a relatively motorway like drive from point a to point b
But outside a few of the big ones most cities in the UK don't have a motorway going through them, they have one going near them that you will have to come off and then contend with local traffic on A and B roads.
I was just thinking about it the other day when I remember driving around florida and how most of the drive even through little towns was on what we would call a motorway which was in stark contrast to coming off the M4 to get to like central Cardiff
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I do think how crazy it is that an M4 slip road is literally next to me. One of the most critical motorways in the UK. Goes to show how densely populated we are in some areas.
And yeah, from Newport Road, it’s pretty much a straight line to the centre.
culturerush@reddit
I live near the last exit in Wales for it, my wife grew up in England not far from it
When I drove her to the end of it after we moved she was really disappointed, she thought there would be a sign up saying "this is the end of the M4" or fireworks or something
Tape_Badger@reddit
I have relatives in Canada and when they first came over here, they commented on how 'the minutes is double the miles' in the UK. It's a pretty good rule of thumb.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Exactly! People seriously don’t weigh in the fatigue. And what you mentioned about engaging roads is spot on. The amount of freight that transits in and out of the UK is crazy. I say this as someone that worked in logistics and only saw what one company was doing.
Foxtrot_Oscar111@reddit
Coming to the UK...
Bossman_Mike@reddit
Because you're from a place, you know everything about it.
I've never heard of the Clan MacDonald Country House Hotel and I have no fucking idea when the last bus leaves Perth for Brigadoon.
"BUT YOU ARE SCOTTISH"
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
That we are all royalists. When I'd say a tiny percentage are the flag waving on the mall at royal weddings types
terryjuicelawson@reddit
Few are that keen but the royals have a very high popularity rating (64% says google AI). Politicians would struggle to get anywhere near that.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
Very high? More people watch a football match than a royal funeral or coronation
horoscopical@reddit
The most viewed TV broadcast in the UK in 2022 was the Queen's funeral, with almost 27 million viewers. Likewise, 18.8 million watched the coronation in 2023.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
Some massaging of the figures involved in that and even then that's less than half the country for undoubtedly the biggest royal moment possible in a lifetime.
Working-Ad-6698@reddit
Also some people from outside UK were waching that too I'm sure. I've also met couple of people from South America during late Queen's funeral / during that summer who had travelled to UK mostly for that, they seemed to be super fans and really fond of her.
terryjuicelawson@reddit
I am speaking more of general support than in person attendance. But even then, the streets were absolutely lined with the last transition of the funeral and coronation? Did you not see people queueing overnight just to file past a coffin.
Dennyisthepisslord@reddit
A tiny amount of people. Just like the amount of people who sat outside a shop to pick up a iPhone Vs the rest of the country
terryjuicelawson@reddit
A million for the funeral apparently. It probably peaked with the Queen but it is real.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Majority of my knowledge from the Royals is from Neftlix’s The Crown.
And that time I got to take an extra 15 minutes break in work because Will and Kate got married and it was on YT. Cheers guys.
Darkus185@reddit
South Africans don’t know that the UK has sandy beaches.
The number of times I’ve had to show pictures of Newquay or Woolacombe is insane.
Accurate-Ad9790@reddit
We all love Afternoon Tea, and like the Royal Family.
will17blitz@reddit
Yes, we all spend our weekends having Afternoon Tea at Fortnum & Mason's. Chance would be a fine thing.
lewisw1992@reddit
That London = UK
MostlyBoatsandBikes@reddit
Hygiene, it’s a chargeable extra, even in top hotels.
dbxp@reddit
Here in Manchester it's just coming to Manchester. It's a great place to live and great for events but it seems to have popped up on some listicles and now people are coming here and asking where all the big tourist sites are.
Cazspresso@reddit
Tbf if Manchester does have touristy things, they’re not in obvious places. We went to do the Corrie tour for my birthday and apart from that, couldn’t find anything else in Manchester to check out.
ELOwoozle@reddit
If you like industrial heritage there are some great things to see in Manchester and Lancashire. There are lots of things to see regarding steam engines and the textile industry.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Are you seeing a rise in foreign tourists coming to specifically see Manchester? That’s interesting, it’s a city rooted in history but I know it has a sizeable international student population too which probably adds to that.
dbxp@reddit
Some are touring the country, some come just to Manchester and only after booking the trip ask what to see.
snakeoildriller@reddit
Well, if they're using Manchester Airport it's not a good intro to the UK. Endless queues, grubby rundown buildings and car parking that only a celeb could afford.
rabbithole-xyz@reddit
Not to mention it's dirty everywhere and covered with litter. I always cringe from embarrasment every time I fly into Manchester Airport.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Brilliant. Well at least they stumbled upon a great food culture in the UK.
SYSTEM-J@reddit
I remember when I first moved to Manchester and I went into a news agents that doubled as a gift shop. They had a stand full of blue fridge magnets and key rings saying "There's only two teams in Manchester: Manchester City and Manchester City reserves." And then right next to it, an identical stand in red where everything said ""There's only two teams in Manchester: Manchester United and Manchester United reserves." That should tell you something.
Mfcx6sp4@reddit
Thanks for making me giggle
No-Zombie9567@reddit
Send them all to Old Trafford, its full of tourists anyway
Ok-Set-5829@reddit
Razor sharp satire here
North_Still_2234@reddit
I've lived in Manchester and Liverpool. Both great cities but Liverpool has way more in terms of tourist attractions
dbxp@reddit
Doing a loop from London up to Liverpool and York is what I usually recommend
T_raltixx@reddit
They think British food sucks because they go to tourist traps.
AlwaysGoForAusInRisk@reddit
Too many US comedians walk straight into Weatherspoons and then complain the food is shit on the podcasts
fantasticdave74@reddit
I’ve seen Bill Barr doing that and it made him look like a considerable tit
Fun-Cheesecake-5621@reddit
Or they go to Toby Cavery for a roast 🤢
pajamakitten@reddit
It would be like us complaining food in the US is crap because you went to Olive Garden in Times Square.
dvb70@reddit
I do think for US tourists their taste buds are a bit fucked down to how much sugar they have in their food. Every time I go to he US I notice how sweet everything is. Even stuff like bread clearly has lots of sugar in it. I imagine if you are used to sugar in all food going somewhere its not done must be quite a shock.
Tourist trap food is also largely pretty awful as well of course.
Front_Mention@reddit
I found it amusing when subway in maeroca had to define itself as cake die to the sugar in it
numba1cyberwarrior@reddit
I mean your clearly wrong lol. All my American friends who were US military and stationed in countries like Japan, Korea, Italy, and Spain raved about how good the food is.
Most did not have positive things to say about British (and German food).
I personally really like British food but it's definitely considered not as flavorful compared to the American palette.
Electric-aura3000@reddit
I remeber when i went to New York like 6 or 7 years ago and the Fanta Grape was 90g of sugar for a 500ml bottle! That's more than 3 times the amount we have. Even their bread is super sweet it's more like brioche.
Alternative_Net_2262@reddit
Lowkey it is rubbish, especially the portion sizes these days are so stingy
horoscopical@reddit
Or because they get all their info from Instagram and TikTok.
dreamsonashelf@reddit
Or because (for the older ones) last time they visited the UK was in 1988.
culturerush@reddit
Every now and again an America food influencer (god I hate that term) pops up on my feeds eating some shit like a Yorkshire pudding burrito or a royal London burger. It's just wanky London "quirky" food
It's not a Sunday roast in a rural pub with a fireplace
But yeah they take all the popups in London as what British food is when it's just meat for sloptok
Ratiocinor@reddit
"Where's a restaurant I can get good British food?"
You don't get British food from a restaurant
You get it from a pub. Every Brit instinctively knows from vibes alone which pub will serve good food and which won't, tourists won't have a clue so they shouldd just use trip advisor to find a pub serving food that's highly rated. It will be the best British food you ever have
Tourists don't get it though so they just go to some "Authentic 100% British Fish & Chips" restaurant they saw on a sign somewhere in some tourist area and get absolutely scammed (fish & chips is supposed to be a greasy takeout food)
No other country works like this so I guess we're just destined to have the "shit food" reputation forever. The very notion of a "gastropub" baffles and confuses any foreigner I think to them it's like going to a dive bar for a gourmet meal
BriefPlay535@reddit
Second this - fish and chips should be eaten out of greasy paper near the sea
soggyarsonist@reddit
The clock in Chester isn't sufficiently exciting to block the whole street taking a photo
SnooBooks1701@reddit
Only going to London
Wooden-Attention-261@reddit
I think you should focus your question on England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland to get accurate answers. With England it's that the food is terrible, the dental hygiene is poor, that everyone favours the Royal Family, and that there aren't many, many versions of the English accent.
Pizzagoessplat@reddit
We left the EU not Europe
xerker@reddit
Thinking that London airports are in London.
There are 6 named London. Only 1 is in London, you probably didn't land in it.
gregRichards2002@reddit
I think a lot of American tourists mistakenly believe a lot of Scottish men are wearing tartan kits all the time and are surprised when they come over and discover that is not the case.
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
Most tourists have a few destinations in mind when they come to the UK and those pretty much shape their view of the country.
There's London, Windsor Castle, Stonehenge, Bath, Cambridge, Oxford, Edinburgh and Loch Ness. You might get the odd tourist in Manchester for "soccer" or Brighton as a little day trip from London, but they are very rare.
I think it gives tourists a very warped view of the country and I do wonder what happens if they end up in a large market town for an evening. I can imagine it's a bit of a culture shock.
Saying that , we probably have exactly the same view of other countries. After all, in Italy many of us know Rome, Venice and Florence. Fewer know Milan or Naples. Even fewer know Bari, Catania or even the port of Genoa.
BodybuilderFree1125@reddit
London is actually not the best city to visit in summer or spring …
the_weaver_of_dreams@reddit
I think British politeness is more accurate than you suggest, simply because there is a culture of public politeness in the UK that doesn't exist in many other countries. Holding doors, frequently saying sorry, orderly queueing, the way that we phrase requests softly, all of that legitimately happens in the UK and contributes to that perception.
It's likely similar to how Brits experience Japan as a polite country, because again there is a culture of public politeness there (even if privately a Japanese person resents you or is a dickhead).
Dans77b@reddit
Strongly disagree. Im British, but grew up in Indiana, I was always appalled at how rude Brits could be when I visited as a kid. Like it was rudeness that I couldn't quite believe.
I think the average person in both countries is equally polite (taking into account cultural differences) but you see a lot more public swearing and threatening behaviour in the UK.
The Caveat is that my experience in the USA was mostly more rural than my experience in the UK.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
It's more that rudeness is defined differently ok different countries.
Dans77b@reddit
I agree, much of what I experienced when I was a kid as rudeness, I wouldnt think twice about now, the behaviour I saw as threatening was just shouting in the street and public swearing. Either way, to this day, as a 33 yr old man, I still think Midwesterners are much more polite than Brits.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
Yes, because your standard for politeness is what you grew up with in the Midwest. Also, you said your experience in the UK was Southport and London, I mean I don't know Southport but I suspect it's very different from if you visited an affluent small town or something. And London is famous for being rude.
Dans77b@reddit
True, but that was just my impression as a youngster without any sort of prejudice one way or the other. In general now, with experience as an adult having been back to the USA on visits, I still hold the same view, but must admit, the American politeness does seem a little more fake these days. But its politeness nonetheless.
RadTokyo@reddit
Comparing like with like, I find much more rudeness / threatening behavior in NYC (where I currently live) then in London (where I used to live). I have heard that midwesterners are very polite, though!
Dans77b@reddit
Yeah I visited NYC once, didnt find them especially polite, Londoners probably a bit nicer.
RadTokyo@reddit
To be fair, neither city is going to be winning any awards in that respect any time soon!
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Which part of the UK did you visit? If you don’t mind me asking?
Dans77b@reddit
I was born in Southport, moved to Indiana when I was about 6 in the late 90s, and visited the UK every few years until wr moved back here in my mid teens.
Those childhood visits were mistly to Southport and London.
I still liked the UK as a kid, but I knew then that midwesterners has better manners!
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I’ve always thought these are just basic human qualities we’re taught at a young age. I have a vivid memory of primary school, I forgot to say please after asking for a sharpener off the teacher. All my friends gasped, one kid said “ooohhhmmmmm”, I shit myself and the teacher gave me a stern look until I said please. It stuck with me ever since as a core memory.
Aren’t all kids taught to have manners in developed schools?
shmozey@reddit
There isn’t a word for please in some languages such as Vietnamese.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
If you're taught them then they're not basic human qualities. Every country teaches it differently.
the_weaver_of_dreams@reddit
No, the use of "please" and "thank you" differs across different countries (and I'd imagine that the UK uses those words more frequently than many others).
Moppo_@reddit
Yeah, politeness doesn't equal friendliness. It's to avoid unnecessary conflict.
Suskita@reddit
A lot of tourists think renting a car is a must, especially from the US but I've also heard this from Germans, Canadians, Australians etc.
Yes in some cases it can be a good idea, but it's definitely not the main way you can move around in this country. they also typically assume that every type of accommodation and destination has free and easy parking. Definitely not the case!
Nervous_Yard7034@reddit
I think it depends on what they want to do.
When I worked in a language school in Brighton, the typical itinerary would include a weekend in London, a trip to Windsor, Oxford, Stonehenge and Bath, or a trip to Cambridge and Oxford, and if you still wanted to see somewhere, a trip to Edinburgh and Scotland.
While you could use public transport, a car does make that more manageable.
I do think that itinerary gives tourists a weird view of the UK. I've often wondered what happens if they find themselves in Dartford.
Low-Cauliflower-5686@reddit
Yeah , often Americans or groups of Chinese who will rent cars even in the cities of Edinburgh and London.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Subjective on where you are and what you’ll be doing really. The big cities usually have great public transport links such as trams, regular buses, underground, taxis. If you’re staying there then no car needed.
If you’re wanting to experience the South West area then you definitely need a vehicle. All A/B roads, awful public transportation.
EUskeptik@reddit
People who say the French are rude are absolutely correct. It’s especially true of Parisiens, but except for people whose livelihoods depend on tourism, the French are generally not polite.
My best friend hails from Paris and is extremely rude, even to me! I have just learned to expect it.
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Boofagoofdoof@reddit
I've always found them lovely, I feel so alone
EUskeptik@reddit
I’m really, genuinely pleased for you. ✅
I’ve heard many people say that Germans are not especially friendly and have no sense of humour. My experience with German people has been the polar opposite. 🙂
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Boofagoofdoof@reddit
This makes me happy :)
EUskeptik@reddit
You and me both!
I have lived and worked in several countries in Europe plus the Middle East and USA. I take people as I find them and often individuals don’t conform to stereotypes.
My happiest times were in the Netherlands and parts of the Middle East. I feel very much at home in Sweden but that’s probably because my father’s family were from there.
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Tinywrenn@reddit
That historic fiction is fact. I worked at a very well known U.K. heritage site for a few years and the amount of times I’d hear Americans claim that they are a direct decedent of Anne Boleyn is comical. I once asked a gentleman who told me she was his 16 time great grandmother if he was sure and he said he was and he’d bought a heraldry certificate online to prove it.
Also got a lot of questions about things that happened in The Crown or Philip’s Gregory novels. Absolutely shocked them to the core to find out all of this stuff is not exact fact and documentary.
Funniest suggestion I ever got was from a couple who told me we should really put up some photographs of the Tudors because the paintings are fuzzy and the children aren’t interested…
Secure-Property4926@reddit
I still can’t believe they built Windsor castle so close to an airport.
Hopeful_Shape3723@reddit
Japanese tourist once told me as a fact that it rains every day in England ☹️
shmozey@reddit
Strange dig because Tokyo is significantly wetter than London.
buzyapple@reddit
That we never see the sun, it’s cloudy all the time.
MACintoshBETH@reddit
Saying the food is crap is the main one I see. We have such a diversity of cuisines here that you can pretty much eat anything you like
Hakmanrock@reddit
It doesn't rain nearly as much as people complain .. and Summers can be extremely hot.
shmozey@reddit
This is a good one.
London is actually 33rd in Europe for average annual rainfall. Less than Rome, Barcelona, Paris, Lisbon etc.
Haunting_Hour_4556@reddit
A common question I see on a lot of the travel subs is "we're visiting London this weekend, but Harry Potter World says it's sold out. How can we get tickets? We really want to go!"
Then you're not going. They don't keep a secret stash of tickets to one side for tourists who didn't plan ahead, especially during the school holidays.
Secure-Property4926@reddit
A bit like the ones that say that they are arriving on Thursday, how will they get tickets to City vs Arsenal on Saturday. And completely baffled it’s sold out.
alfienoakes@reddit
It’s relatively small but it can still take longer than you think to get somewhere. You can’t do Stonehenge, Stratford on Avon, York and Loch Ness in one day.
t0riaj@reddit
When I used to live in Manchester people abroad would always ask me what football team I supported. Neither. I don't care about football
buzyapple@reddit
When I was in Cape Town I had a conversation with a teen about football. He didn’t understand how I couldn’t tell who he supported from his football shirt and was determined to tell me football is everywhere in the UK.
pajamakitten@reddit
Just say Salford.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
This. I know football culture is huge in the UK, but so is a lot of other things!
I do find it wholesome when international fans fulfil their dreams of seeing their team play on home ground or visit stadiums.
EvilTaffyapple@reddit
Anything to do with “being unsafe”.
Afraid-Priority-9700@reddit
I once read a post by an American woman who had written about her initial excitement to move to Edinburgh. She quickly changed her mind after reading that we're not allowed to carry handguns here, and wrote about how awful and scary it must be to not be able to "defend yourself." She seemed genuinely shocked when Scottish women told her that they walk out their houses, catch buses, even get home safe at night, all without handguns.
Big-Cartographer-556@reddit
I get this from family in the US who live near, regularly go to sporting events in a city that often has 15x+ the gun murders per year than the entire UK.
RotaryDesign@reddit
Worst thing that happened to me was that bus driver who didn't reply when I said "good morning"
uamvar@reddit
Most of us couldn't give a toss about Jesus.
Ok-Rain6295@reddit
When I worked retail I had a fair few US tourists try to pay in USD or euros.
LittleSadRufus@reddit
Yes I had an American screaming at me "But it's US tender, this is the global currency".
My dear, don't drink the Kool Aid your government is spinning.
iamsheena@reddit
I think this is down to being able to use it in Canada and possibly non-US places nearby. I know in Canada from experience (though not recently), I've seen Mexico in the media. So if they've only travelled around those places, they might think it applies everywhere.
Serious_Escape_5438@reddit
I bought a stamp for a woman in front of me once to get the queue moving. They only had dollars and American express or something and kept arguing to try to get the woman to accept her dollars.
hdhxuxufxufufiffif@reddit
When I worked in a pub, I had a yank give me one dollar as a tip and he got upset when I said it wasn't necessary and that if he really wanted to show gratitude, pound sterling would be more useful.
Simbooptendo@reddit
Something something needing loicences for everything
Seriously what accent is supposed to pronounce 'Licence' as 'Loooiiiicence'?
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Y’all need a license for your freedoms?
RegretEasy8846@reddit
That they can ‘do it in a day’ inc. wales and Scotland when they’ve arrived at London. Laughable.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I wonder how they cope with the difference in road sizes and even driving position.
I’ve driven on the left and it’s incredibly strange at first, roundabouts in particular because you do the opposite of before.
AssumptionBudget279@reddit
I do work in the tourism industry but this wss while I was on holiday snc was on a tour myself.
A American asked “Can I sit on Hadrian’s wall?”
It’s a thousand years old, what do you think???
I could see our tour guide sweat drop a little as he told her that wouldn’t be the best idea
🙈
gromitrules@reddit
I mean, the footpath actually runs on top of it for a good bit, so I reckon you can safely sit there as well as walk… That obviously does not go for ALL of the wall!
Lottes_mom@reddit
This sheep liked sitting on it
Maleficent_Fee5565@reddit
That fish and chips here is better than elsewhere. I swear I've had fish and chips so much better in like 3 other countries.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I’ll stand by Maltese fish and chips till the day I die !
Whoooshingsound@reddit
Americans, dollars are only good for paper crafts over here. Hospitality staff don’t have time to collage, if you’re gonna tip use sterling.
InternationalBar6593@reddit
The food can't be as bad as they are led to be believe.
Ralphisinthehouse@reddit
Food. Americans always come here thinking it's terrible and leave thinking it's better than theirs. And objectively, almost anything is healthier than American food. If you ever want to see a chicken breast the size of a cantaloupe due to being pumped full of chemicals, America delivers.
badger906@reddit
Americans all assume you’ll get stabbed the second you get off a plane. Yet they have 85x more stabbing a year per 100k than we do.. fairly sure downtown Iraq is safer than some US cities
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
A lot of capitals in the region are fairly safe now. I saw a video of the Syrian president doing an opening ceremony of a basketball court in Damascus. Friendly against Lebanon. I’ve also seen vloggers going to Baghdad and having a blast.
julemeister@reddit
London is not the UK and no we don't all know Bill Smith from Liverpool.
bored_toronto@reddit
American tourists seeing some Roadmen: "Honey, let's ask these athletes if they know the way to Lice-ester Square."
Creative-Champ@reddit
Going to London, thats it.
TemperMe@reddit
Where are you seeing a stereotype of “politeness”? If anything most of the UK is considered cold shouldered towards people, granted it’s not French rudeness but it’s still a thing.
The big negative stereotype is being knifed for some reason.
Drammeister@reddit
They have fish and chips in a pub instead of a proper chippy.
Savings_Science5786@reddit
The idea that our healthcare system does no more than amputate limbs with rusty saws. There’s no appreciation of the fact you can pay for private healthcare here if you want/can afford to.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Lol this is brilliant. Anybody who works/has worked in corporate knows that Bupa is usually offered in employment benefits and if your job involves a screen then you have to be entitled to eyecare.
I took out a free eye test with the Red vouchers even after I left company.
PlasticSmile57@reddit
That we’re all Harry Potter crazy. The amount of times I have to explain why wearing full merch/cosplay is likely to get you the cold shoulder from a barista…
PaleozoicQueen@reddit
As a Welsh person - our existence
culturerush@reddit
I had a Canadian in Thailand argue with me that Wales was part of England, he kept saying "I studied geography I think I would know" and his missus said "he's from there I think he would know"
In the end I said "yeah and your from America aren't you?" and fucked off
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
I’ve enjoyed the quietest picnics at Llandegfedd for many years now, I don’t know if I’m ready to expose it to internationals yet
Crimson__Fox@reddit
"Where is Wales?"
"It's a country west of England."
"Ah, you mean Ireland?"
scarby2@reddit
Yeah, but I think the risk of someone stealing your phone and running off with it is extremely low. I've never heard of this happening to anyone I know.
And if it does get nicked somehow i'll just wander into a shop buy a new phone, restore from backup and wipe the old one (then claim it on insurance).
Brave_Assumption6@reddit
That our newspapers are as formal, sanitised and RP as our famous BBC is known for worldwide.
No, most of our newspapers are the polar opposite of BBC News.
No_Detail9259@reddit
Those acid in face attacks a very rare.
Tru72@reddit
We're not gonna die or get abducted if we don't have guns to protect ourselves.
....and we don't shoot kids as a hobby
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
God I hate the obsession with firearms. An example I like is of my experience in Turkey where I got to go to a range for the first time and shoot a pistol, great fun. But Turkey hasn’t made it their entire personality.
The concept of “American Firepower” is what I like to call it.
Inevitable-Debt4312@reddit
That the King’s in charge.
Inevitable-Debt4312@reddit
That the King’s in charge.
Inevitable-Debt4312@reddit
That the King’s in charge.
DapperDouble666@reddit
A lot of visitors seem to think the entire country is just London, which misses so much. They also arrive with this exaggerated fear of danger that just doesn't match the daily reality for people living here.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Yeah, I agree. Whilst this has its pros and cons, it would be nice to see tourists see some of our other sites. As someone that’s into history, it’s nice to share facts and information with others.
A lot of our sites are usually empty or you get the odd person walking their dog nearby. There’s this massive crumbling cathedral out in the southern Welsh countryside I came across and the only person there was the bloke changing the bin liners, sent from the council.
TMI2020@reddit
Mind me asking where this is? I’m in south Wales and I’d be interested in finding this…unless you’re talking about Tintern Abbey 😂
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Bingo😂after September there’s no one there because they can’t hack the weather😂
TMI2020@reddit
I had a colleague when I worked for National Trust who also worked for Cadw at Tintern and he hated how much the days used to drag when they were quiet in the winter months!
Dans77b@reddit
Most Brits have the same fear when going to London. Its completely unwarranted, but many people just dont feel comfortable in cities.
LilacMages@reddit
That the food sucks
Usually turns out that they went to a Spoons or something
Ultimate_os@reddit
That it’s all London.
CuteMaterial@reddit
I work in a theatre and soooo many American customers think our programmes are free and get all pissy when I tell them that they cost money here.
AssumptionBudget279@reddit
I also used to work in a gift shop in a tourist area and I was often asked do you accept dollars and do you accept euros by Americans.
No and no… best check the currency of the country you are actually in??
pickindim_kmet@reddit
Maybe a bit specific because of where I live but tourists that think the UK consists of London, the Cotswolds, York and Edinburgh. Sometimes Liverpool gets included. Nothing against those places, I think they are great, but anything between York and Edinburgh right across the country gets ignored. Then they're off to Ireland.
My partner, before I met her, hadn't been here and thought Ireland was the best place to go for beaches and castles and - yeah it's lovely - but we have so much of it here too she didn't realise. On the plus side, I get to explore unspoiled beaches and history all by myself in summer with no tourists around me.
Immediate-Escalator@reddit
The most common one I see is thinking that they can cover way more ground during their trip than they actually can. I’ve seen people posting their itineraries for comment and they’re talking about visiting London, Cornwall or the Cotswolds, Edinburgh and the Highlands or western isles of Scotland over the course of a week or 10 days.
AlucardVTep3s@reddit (OP)
Size of fucking Malta to some people😂
Immediate-Escalator@reddit
A mate’s sister once went to America and told a story that someone was confused that she had flown there from the UK because they thought the country was so small they couldn’t understand where the planes would land.
lovesorangesoda636@reddit
Scotland is not Outlander and Scottish people really don't give a fuck about what clan your great great great granddad's third cousin might have been in.
Charming-Objective14@reddit
French people aren't rude they just speak their mind and I wish more British people would.
AdjectiveNoun111@reddit
Eating at terrible restaurants.
Any tourist hotspot, especially in London, has the worst food places on earth.
All it takes is a bit of a Google search and walking about 10 mins off the beaten path to find amazing food, instead people go to Angus Steakhouse or Jamie's Italian and go home thinking out food is shit.
Timely_Egg_6827@reddit
That Central London is Disneyworld and we are all tour guides. Work in a non tourist related job between three tourist attractions and get stopped and questions on way to and any time out of office. And people genuinely get rude if you can't help. I try to be nice but if you start that nonsense about my job relies on your money...
BarbiePeonies@reddit
Americans think our portions are small like no mate your portions are monstrous
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