cheap euro summer
Posted by orange_peele@reddit | Shoestring | View on Reddit | 35 comments
me and a friend are attempting to travel from los Angeles to Europe for the summer. We’re trying to find flights late june to late july/early august, we’re flexible on destination and timing as we’re going to take the train around Europe. I know it’s tough timing but any advice on flights, stay and transportation would be appreciated!
easierthanbaseball@reddit
Consider going in the off season. AC isnt much of a thing in Europe but it’s getting hotter and hotter. Personally, I enjoy it in October/November much better. Cheaper, fewer crowds, yes you need to pack a jacket for the northern parts, but the southern parts are still quite balmy.
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
it’s kinda difficult because we’re students and my friend is visiting family so we have to go during this time :/
StarDue6540@reddit
Se Asia is doable outside of the flight price. In the 80s my husband and I bought a eurail pass and it was super flex. No reservations needed so we toured a city during the day and then would hop a train for the night Spain Italy Greece Germany austria Amsterdam all over europe. Nowadays you must have reservations and I don't know if they even sell those tickets anymore. The eurailpass was like 400 or 600 back then.
easierthanbaseball@reddit
That makes sense but then your trade off is that it costs more. Maybe consider a cheaper area of the world to explore. Get an Amtrak Rail Pass or something.
pharmlifegirl@reddit
Agreed - I went in January. Good deals for flights and accommodations. Just had to be strategic about where you’re going to get good/ok weather (Portugal, Spain, Italy, etc.). You won’t be swimming likely.
jlnbtr@reddit
High season in big cities. Cheap won’t happen, not even remotely. Hostels will be 40-50€ and up per person. That’s 3000€ for the month. Add flights from LA, 1500€. Cheap food 20€ a day. No beers. No museums or anything paid. Trains 50-100 each. That’s 6,000€ each with the bare minimum
StarDue6540@reddit
Yup.
StarDue6540@reddit
1500 is not nearly enough. I'm a budget traveler. I just got back from paris and everything is expensive. The best advice i can give is to plan your itinerary and book your planes or trains in advance for cheap prices. We stayed in Paris and friends asked us to come to Switzerland and the train would have been 1000 for 3 of us round trip. So we rented a car. Still expensive but nice to see the country side. 14 euro is a good starting point for any entree per person for lunch. The cheapest meal we had was 30 euros at a Vietnamese place in the Moree (sp?) district. We did bicycle tour at Versailles the L Vuitton museum and lots of walking. Having a friend definitely helps. 3 people at Versailles was over 400 for the bike tour. Again, booking in advance will probably be cheaper. Look in to city passes for doing things in specific cities they can help with entrance fees. I don't know if they are still a thing.
IDespiseBananas@reddit
This is not related to your question but. I get people want to see Amsterdam, and dont get me wrong it is beautiful, but its also very touristy. There are other cities just as beautiful, less tourists. Depending on how long you plan to stay, consider some extra 2nd options
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
what cities do you recommend?
IDespiseBananas@reddit
I remember seeing a thread on reddit where people “voted”. Pretty sure Deventer, Utrecht and Maastricht all came in really high.
Deventer is one of the oldest cities, its in the east. Utrecht is a big city (for dutch standards), so probably the best out of the 3 if youre looking for that. Utrecht is in the middle middle of NL. Ive never been to Maastricht but form what Ive heard very beautiful. But its all the way in the south.
Personal favorites are Delft (but its small), I think Arnhem is nice, which also has the openluchtmuseum (open air museum?). Which has life sized buildings showing how the people way back used to live.
This is from the top of my head
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
i’ve never heard of these cities i’ll have to do some more research. Would be pretty nice to get away from the crowds
IDespiseBananas@reddit
I mean if its your only time in NL and youre here for 2 days it might feel weird not to see amsterdam.
But just wanted to let you know there are other beautiful cities that will be less touristy. If you have any questions, dm me. Ill answer but i might not have an answer
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
I really appreciate it
grotemeid@reddit
Literally all of the cities they named are, it’s not like Amsterdam the most touristy out of all of them.
IDespiseBananas@reddit
Ive never been to any of the other cities, so I kept it to what I do know.
Was just giving a little advise thats all
Impossible-Snow5202@reddit
The most popular capitals in Europe, during peak tourist season, by train?
No, not on a shoestring budget.
You need to choose second cities and travel by bus.
What is your total budget? How much are you allotting to flights, how much to accommodation, and how much to intercity travel?
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
i think our budget is around 1,500 for everything, especially if we can get housing for cheap, the friend i’m traveling with is from france so that definitely helps.
OkFaithlessness2652@reddit
Op, depending on the time this can be a lot or tooooo little.
snackhappynappy@reddit
You are picking some of the most expensive parts of Europe at the most expensive time of year so consider doing a budget and then checking flight and accommodation prices Then decide what you want to see/do Then, see if your remaining budget will cover it Then you will know if you are using a bus or a train
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
good to know!
Key-Picture7475@reddit
We’re having to travel that same time. Bought tickets about 5 weeks ago and the same ticket is now $2000 more! If it has to be this summer, book now. Also check hostel availability before looking into those cities. Once all that is booked, if you want to see popular sites (the Louvre, etc…) get tickets now. Of course you want to see the big cities, but prepare for crowds. If it all possible, I’d save some $ and go during winter break or Spring Break next year. Good luck!
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
thank you!
NiagaraThistle@reddit
"cheap' is not the word you can use for this trip. You are literally going to the most popular places at the most busy time, during a fuel crisis that is inflating airfares and potentially train prices soon.
That being said, you could have an AFFORDABLE Europe trip but you need to set your expectations fro budget.
FLights will probably be $1200+ round trip LA to London (which is USUALLY the cheapest gateway city to Europe - but not always).
Eurail pass will probably cost you +-$450 depending on how many travel days you actually need. THen for countries like Spain you will need seat reservations, and in other countries if you use the high speed ICE/CE trains. Seat reservations will cost an extra $5-30 per reservation when needed. To avoid these prepurchase your train tickets for each destination (ie point to point tickets) or focus on REGIONAL slower trains instead of High Speed ICE/CE trains. Take a bit more time and connections, but will save you money on reservations. Point to Point tickets might also be cheaper than a Eurail pass if bought early (ie now) but will limit your ability to be spontaneous since you will have to know your route and buy all tickets ahead of your trip for the best price.
Hostels will vary from an average of $30 per night to $90-100 in some popular cities at the most popular hostels.
Food can vary wildly depending on where you eat, how lax you are about sticking to a budget, and how much alchol you drink. While you could get by with about $45 per day eating if you have a small cheap breakfast (ie coffee and croissant), a picnic lunch from a market or grocers or train station (ie a baguete with lunch meat, cheese, fruit from a grocery store) and a small cafe or local restaurent dinner every couple days, and zero alcohol, to $75+.
Sightseeing will be where you won't want to skimp much because it's legit why you are probably going to Europe in the first place. Forget unique experiences if you want a 'cheap' trip. Find student/youth discounts (if you are under 27 adn/or a student) plan to be in cities when your must dos offer free days (paris's louvre offers this still i think one day week), look in to city museum pass a(again paris has one that could save you money on sightseeing), accept you don't need to go inside every attraction and prioritize which ones you MUST see/do on you budget. take free walking tours to see a city. THis could easily be an average of $25-50 dollars per day depending on what you expect to see or do.
Walk. In cities walk or take public transportation instead of more expensive taxis and ride shares. The costs for taxis and ride share will add up quick. And walking / public transportation is super convenient in European cities.
Consider mixing in some TOWNS into your itinerary. Not only will they be cheaper than cities and help keep costs down, Europe's towns in every country are amazing and provide a more intimate look at the country's culture, are less crowded (mostly), and will carbonate your trip with a different view of Europe.
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
This is so helpful thank you! we got tickets to Paris since they’re canceling trips from lax to London. We haven’t looked into the train yet, regional trains are a good idea. We definitely will be walking everywhere, and look into student discounts.
Top-Calendar-2434@reddit
Forget about coming to Europe . Fix your bloody country first
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
wish i could
mango-affair@reddit
If you want to do something cheap, try WWOOFing. Not sure your Budget aligns with your timing and objectives, unfortunately. Also, Barcelona and Spain in general are unbearably hot in August.
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
i’ve been wanting to try this! might be difficult on this trip since we’re planning to travel so much but in the future i’d want to come back and try it out. Last time i looked into it there weren’t many options
andyone100@reddit
Usually Norse flights to London (GTW) are the cheapest across the Atlantic. Unfortunately, they’ve stopped the flights out of LAX, so out of NYC is probably your cheapest option. Then fly to wherever you want in Europe with one of the low cost airlines eg EasyJet, Russia, Wizzair etc
orange_peele@reddit (OP)
yeah it is pretty tough especially out of lax we ended up getting tickets to paris
Agreeable_Ad281@reddit
You’re booking last minute to some of the most touristy destinations in the highest season of the year. Shoestring is out of the question. If you want to save money then you need to be able to plan in advance and do basic research.
grotemeid@reddit
It’s high-season and you’re planning to go to very touristy places I don’t think it’ll be cheap esp this last minute.
LoquatsTasteGood@reddit
Flights to Europe in that window are generally expensive without a war and global fuel shortage. Within Europe cheap flights can still be found. I would basically play around to find your cheapest flights and then explore options from there.
Also what kind of budget are you working with?
OkFaithlessness2652@reddit
You are quite vague. But central, eastern and Balkans Europe has tons of gems to a very affordable price