Iran escalates crackdown on dissent as arrests, executions and threats surge, observers say
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cambeiu@reddit
With the IRGC now fully in control, an even more hardline approach is to be expected. That is one of the most tragic consequences of this stupid war: It empowered the hardliners even further.
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
Yeah, maybe it was a mistake for Israel to kill all the moderate leaders? Hmm.
BendicantMias@reddit
They didn't kill Pezeshkian, which is suspicious...
Insignificant_Letter@reddit
Because he’s a mouthpiece for the IRGC, why waste missiles on the facade when you can go and hit what is behind?
BendicantMias@reddit
Pezeshkian is the opposite of a mouthpiece for the IRGC. He was the sole moderate election candidate, and has been the lone conciliatory voice in Iran in this entire war. Much to the chargrin of the hardliners, who've had to shut him down each time.
Insignificant_Letter@reddit
That can all be true and it can also be the case that the IRGC can say jump to which Pezeshkian says how high.
The reality is that in a post-war IR, the relationship between the civilian and IRGC government will be lopsided towards the IRGC - the fallen Ayatollah Khamenei was the one balancing the two, now that his son is in charge the IRGC pulls the strings - if low-level IRGC navy soldiers are willing to call the civilian foreign minister ‘an idiot’ - then imagine what the relationship is like with the higher ups.
Opening-Cheetah467@reddit
Mistake? This was intentional and they know it
3nterShift@reddit
The real blackpill to swallow is realizing Israel wants Hamas, Hezbolah and a hardline Iran to exist. This is the core justification for their genocides and land grabs.
Magjee@reddit
Even when they forced out 700,000 people to create the country they were always dependent on framing resistance as an excuse to push for my land and support
MelodiusRA@reddit
Calling Khomenei a moderate after 40 years of proxy wars in the Middle East is easily one of the stupidest things you possibly could have typed out.
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
It's all relative.
The US had a list of leaders it hoped it could work with. The list turned into the Israeli kill list.
For the record, Khamenei had issued a fatwa against developing a nuclear weapons unless it was necessary to the survival of the Iranian state.
And now it is necessary.
Thanks, Obama.
All_Wasted_Potential@reddit
Yeah or we could just eliminate all the hardliners.
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
I think the reality is that Israel is trying to push US and Iran into a state-disolving conflict, which is why they are continuously undermining every attempt at a peaceful resolution.
Also, I think if we did kill all the hardliners, it might, uhm, shift the moderates towards a more hardline position.
All_Wasted_Potential@reddit
Then there are more hardliners to eliminate. Make the idea of being a hardliner so absolutely terrifying that they have no choice but to abandon it.
Because the alternative is appeasement. Which history shows doesn’t go too well either.
Kaymish_@reddit
So basically you want a genocide. Why is it that Americans always turn to genocide when they don't get their way?
All_Wasted_Potential@reddit
Why is everyone cool with these radical theocracies that discriminate against women and LGBT? Appeasement worked really well in the lead up to WW2.
BendicantMias@reddit
Lol, you supposedly care more about LGBT than you do about murdering millions? Talk about backwards priorities. Not to mention there's plenty of other states you hypocrites tolerate that don't tolerate LGBT, like Saudi Arabia.
Plus you sound like a Republican, who are hardly friends of LGBT. In other words, all these empty words of yours are nothing but convenient excuses.
shades-of-defiance@reddit
Just to be clear, democrats are neither friends to the LGBTQ community nor are they any less war-hungry, and their presidential candidates are in general just as hawkish on the Middle East issues
Saorren@reddit
honestly seeing how people speak online about other countries its like they never looked in a mirror or something.
BrassUnicorn87@reddit
We’re not, blowing people up isn’t a good way to get the theocrats replaced with good people.
All_Wasted_Potential@reddit
So what’s a better way? What nation had a faster turnaround than post-war Germany and Japan?
gattaaca@reddit
Point to where the US has done this successfully in the past without a) destabilizing an entire region or b) empowering more to hardliners to replace the old ones.
Libya? Afghanistan? Iraq?
I think you guys enjoy continually banging your head against that same brick wall just a little too much, the brain damage is becoming apparent.
this_dudeagain@reddit
Germany
All_Wasted_Potential@reddit
Maybe we just haven’t gone hard enough?
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
Just one more bombing campaign bro, this time we'll get a liberal democracy, come on bro just one more bombing
All_Wasted_Potential@reddit
It worked pretty damn well in Germany and Japan. Probably because we went further.
BendicantMias@reddit
It didn't. The stategic bombing campaigns in both Germany and Japan failed to win the wars, so Germany had to be invaded properly and Japan nuked.
There's literally a Battleplan episode on this lol - https://youtu.be/YgQflQQM-_Q?si=chNawL0a1xjzbnJp
Haywoodjablowme1029@reddit
This is just disgusting.
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
The US dropped more bombs on Cambodia than the entire allied air forces dropped in all of World War 2. So no, you didn't "go further" in Germany than you have since. And if you think nuking Iran is going to lead to a flourishing democracy, you've got rocks in your head.
tmfink10@reddit
I see you’ve met one of our above average voters. (send help)
BendicantMias@reddit
The only way you can go harder is by risking your necks by invading properly. But you're too cowardly to do that. Your president is literally called a chicken.
If you want to go harder, then grow a spine and invade. Fight a proper war.
ThatOneGuy444@reddit
You're a fucking psychopath and I wish to God the idiots in charge didn't think exactly like you.
cambeiu@reddit
Forgot Syria.
BendicantMias@reddit
Robert Pape literally wrote a whole book on this, going through the entirely of modern military aviation history - you CANNOT win a war purely through air power. It has failed every time it's been tried, and it's been tried aplenty.
It also really makes you look like cowards, even as your allies take hits. Yet you do nothing to risk your own necks, only their nations. That's pathetic.
MelodiusRA@reddit
You know what the US’ objectives were? You should probably tell China, they will pay you the big bucks to be a part of their Intelligence agency.
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
It's probably best not to think of US objectives given that Trump is pretty self centered and only thinks of himself and that everyone in his cabinet told him this was a bad idea.
But you know who else was in the situation room, the only one pushing for this? Benjamin Netanyahu.
So the two questions the Chinese should be asking are, "What are Israeli objectives?" and separately "What are Trump's objectives?"
Israeli objectives is to drag the United States into destroying Iran as a functioning state so it can be the dominant power in the ME, free to expand its lebensraum.
Trump's objective, at this point, is to survive politically without looking like a loser. This means he can't sign a deal which is worse than the status quo ante, and he can't launch a ground invasion or drop nukes, and he can't also do nothing about gas prices... he also seems unstable, so he might rotate strategies depending on what he's most anxious about on that given day.
MelodiusRA@reddit
There were many more people than just Trump and Netanyahu that believed war with Iran was expedient.
No offense, (honestly, no offense. There are many morons itt but you seem like you are just misinformed), but chalking up the war to just “Trump and Bibi wanted it” is reductive and propaganda spread to make the war seem unpopular.
The US, Israel, and the GCC have wanted to defang Iran for a long, long time. Hell, despite what Europe says, half of NATO high command has been looking to do this as well. It’s been 50 years of religious proxy wars and of course, threatening to do this toll shit.
With the potential Taiwan invasion coming up, the US did not want Iran creating a possible two-front war during that time, so they finally retaliated against the IRGC at this point and before they can’t afford the resources to defend both sides.
This is actually why you are seeing a ton of propaganda online only pushing one way. Usually the bot networks populate both sides of the online agenda to sow division in the Western audiences. But in this case, a loss for the IRGC is so overly destructive to the CCP’s goals you will only see one narrative.
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
Yeah, no doubt WH staffers are in fuld CYA mode because they see what's coming, so maybe grain of salt on that NYT situation
And while everyone's wanted to defang Iran, nobody did what Trump did because everyone knew exactly what would happen.
northrupthebandgeek@reddit
Can't discern the enemy's objectives if the enemy doesn't even know its own objectives. Sun Tzu would be either proud or disgusted. Possibly both.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
its an admission that '40 years of proxy wars' was alwys just propaganda
Decent_Cheesecake_29@reddit
Khameni issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons. Like it or not, he was a relative moderate
MelodiusRA@reddit
Yeah bro the neverending wars in the Levant was pretty moderate.
Stubbs94@reddit
Yeah, let's not blame the hyper militaristic ethnostate in that region occupying and bombing its neighbours...
MelodiusRA@reddit
Israel has literally never declared an offensive war.
BurialA12@reddit
So the West is an extremist alliance?
MelodiusRA@reddit
Lmao bro don’t you get tired of blaming the West for intervention when every dictator in the region started a war on average 10 years?
hairybeavers@reddit
I guess you are forgetting the fact that US intervention is the reason why Iran's democratic government was replaced by a dictatorship in the first place.
MelodiusRA@reddit
Sounds like someone needs to brush up on their mid-19th century Iranian regional politics.
tl;dr is Mossadegh was angling to become a dictator by dissolving parliament, cancelling elections, stealing the private sector’s property, and winning elections with 99.3% of the vote.
The CIA just provided some guns but pretty much every political faction in Iran wanted Mossadegh out. The Shah was the leader with the most political clout in the aftermath.
hairybeavers@reddit
Ah yes, the classic ‘CIA just handed out a few guns’ version of fictional history where we just ignore the actual facts.
In reality, the 1953 coup wasn’t some organic uprising, it was Operation Ajax, a coordinated effort by the CIA and MI6 to remove Mohammad Mosaddegh after he nationalized Iran’s oil. That included propaganda campaigns, bribing politicians, organizing mobs, and backing military elements to overthrow a democratically elected government. Mosaddegh didn’t just ‘cancel democracy’, he was in a power struggle with the Shah and used a referendum to limit royal interference. That’s a far cry from justifying a foreign-backed coup.
The idea that ‘everyone wanted him out’ ignores the fact that the Shah literally fled the country before the coup succeeded and only returned after the operation worked. It wasn’t just Iranians deciding to swap leaders, it was Western intervention to protect oil interests and Cold War influence, which then led to decades of dictatorship under the Shah. Perhaps it's you who should brush up on your mid 19th century history.
MelodiusRA@reddit
tl;dr Iranians wanted Mossadegh out because he was unpopular that they did it as soon as they learned they would receive international support for the new administration
BurialA12@reddit
The Strokes gave a very neat summary the other day at Coachella
hairybeavers@reddit
I wasn't aware of this. Appreciate you sharing it.
Always good when stuff like this makes it into the mainstream. Makes it a lot harder for people to pretend that history doesn’t exist when artists and other prominent figures are calling it out in front of huge crowds.
ChefCurryYumYum@reddit
They got the outcome they wanted.
R1donis@reddit
Same with Russia, people who say "just get rid of Putin" dont understand that he IS the moderate, and big part of goverment are hardliners, and so is population. Prigozhin wasnt going to Moscow to stop the war, he wanted a ww2 level of mobilisation.
MrDemonRush@reddit
Prigozhin wanted Shoigu out, as they didn't come to terms about funding. But because he never intended to overthrow Putin the whole thing just kinda shut down. He didn't want the war at all, since it was just a money sink, he said as much prior to the uprising, in his famous "grandpa is an idiot" quote, directed at Putin.
ModernirsmEnjoyer@reddit
Пригожин - аутсайдер, который просто заигрался и начал шатать лодку нарратива всей войны.
А мобилизации никто проводить не будет кроме клоунов которые в телеграмчиках сидят и каналы водят. Власть просто не выдержит социальный удар от такого.
namikazeiyfe@reddit
Brother it's not as if Iran have not been doing this very thing wat before the war started. Earlier this year they murdered thousands of protesters just like they did in 2024, 2021 etc. Hack, the very moment this islamic regime took over from the Shah they murdered lots of dissenters and oppositions and even those who help them take power. To you who just started paying attention this might be significant and due to the US/Israel war, but to this regime this is just Tuesday.
Kelak1@reddit
The thousands of protestors as reported by US and Israel, and has been questioned whether it's legitimate.
The thousands of "peaceful protestors" who it was revealed were actually western operatives when Israeli supplied weapons?
You're only seeing propaganda from one side and calling it reality.
Dorkzilla_ftw@reddit
Questionned of it is legitimate by Chinese and Russian puppets. Because if you remember well, the leadership of Iran admitted doing so. This event led to the internet blackout.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-armed-mossad-cell-arrested-over-plot-to-provoke-clashes-at-protests/
WestcoastAlex@reddit
perhaps if there wasnt a track record of israel tainng and supplying weapons...
https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-armed-mossad-cell-arrested-over-plot-to-provoke-clashes-at-protests/
grand_historian@reddit
Living in Tel Aviv as a Nigerian must be a nice upgrade.
AmarantaRWS@reddit
This is what I've been saying. Anyone who actually supports popular rule in Iran should support the stabilization of the region, not constant war. Constant conflict only enables and emboldens the more extreme.
MaskedPapillon@reddit
It's so good that the US completed all it's objectives, right? /s
40_Thousand_Hammers@reddit
And: they made Iran a superpower, that regime ain't changing soon.
AbabababababababaIe@reddit
Protestors are arrested all around the world, including in the USA. Iran is also facing an existential threat, and will therefore do whatever its leaders think they need to survive.
Blackout38@reddit
Arrests or executions?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
regular protestors arent being executed. Iran is excuting spies and terrorists
Blackout38@reddit
Easy to do when you label regular protesters as spies and terrorists.
context_hell@reddit
Trump openly admitted that the us was funneling weapons into iran through the kurds.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
why would they arrest regular protestors?
there was a week of non violent protests in december/january, then the armed israeli agents joined demonstrations and shot police, burned busses, burned ambulances, etc
israel and america already confirmed their agents went in to do that
https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-said-frustrated-that-mossad-promises-of-iran-uprising-have-fallen-short/
Blackout38@reddit
They’ve literally been running news segments for a month telling the public any protesting will be considered treason and supporting the enemy i.e. all protesters are terrorists or spies.
Your article is not about the protests in December or January when 40,000+ are estimated to have been killed by the IRGC and is in no way confirmation that the US and Israel caused that. It only shows that Iranian news outlets broadcasting things like “we will make your mothers mourn you”, “we are keeping a list and will go house to house when this is over”, and “we will consider any protester as aiding the enemy” was very successful at preventing that strategy from Israel.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
who estimated 40,000?
Blackout38@reddit
The Iranian health minister comparing the bodies in hospitals and morgues around the country relative to its baseline. They actually think it’s higher if the bodies never made it to a hospital or morgue which is highly likely based on those figures.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
false
Blackout38@reddit
False
WestcoastAlex@reddit
feel free to provide your evidence
Blackout38@reddit
The Guardian, Time, Iran International. So 30-36.5k in those two days and as the month passed Human Rights Watchdog notes more than 10,000 were arrested, tortured, sentenced, and even disappeared. And this is all before the Trump took action against them.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
all those sources point to the very same 'Iran Human Rights' group based in Washington
yes, they reported 40,000 in january\february.. then they quietly revised their number to about 6000 and even then its exaggerated
i think we can all agree there were killings without exagerrating based on israeli propaganda
Iran published the names. if there were 37,000 missing names we would have heard by now .. and arrests arent death. the most common punishment for simple rioting is fines, so far as ive read the only executions have been for those who showed up armed and killed police
again, if Russia sent hundreds of armed agents to America with orders to shoot police or ICE during protests.. what do you suppose would happen?
AbabababababababaIe@reddit
Does it matter? They are forced by the circumstances. The conflict with the USA is existential for Iran.
On top of that, the USA can and has funded rebels in countries before, and now any anti-government movement in a nation that is not on friendly terms with the USA could plausibly be a foreign threat.
Iran is forced by circumstance, the USA is there by choice. The only way to save lives is for the USA to back off
avroLancasterBPR1@reddit
It kinda does matter
The gap between prison time and executions is very large, especially if you already think that the prison time is unjustified
Minoleal@reddit
Traitors are always treated this way, everyy nation in the world has done this to the population that betrays them for foreign powers. They are at war.
avroLancasterBPR1@reddit
Im not 100% convinced in the Iranian Regimes good faith nature of identifying traitors oversimple dissidents.
Why are you?
Minoleal@reddit
Im not 100% convinced in the good faith nature of identifying traitors over simply dissidents of any nation, but not every war is an existential war, some even go after them when not a war.
But this is a defensive existential war for Iran against the strongest colonial and imperialist powers in the world, we are more understanding under those circumstances. They will abuse and commit mistakes, but if US and friends get away with it without a single one of those things, we won't bother to focus so harsh on Iran doing it.
avroLancasterBPR1@reddit
Who’s we? I’m capable of criticising both, apparently you aren’t.
This is an excuse to murder innocents whos crime is criticism under the guise of being ‘traitors’, and you’re falling for it. Have shame
Minoleal@reddit
When I see you criticising the break down of anti-Israel's genocide in any of the MANY news of that I will take your word in consideration.
You are just fabricating consent on this illegal, offensive war that has killed over 10k Iranians.
MelodiusRA@reddit
Offensive? Not unless you don’t count any of Iran’s proxy wars as their fault.
Minoleal@reddit
Just like the MANY more proxys that USA use, like the "peaceful protestors" that USA and Israel hired to murder people in Iran.
USA will never have a moral high ground over anybody, is an imperial, colonialist, terrorist country, and most most powerful to put the cherry on the top.
MelodiusRA@reddit
Nobody brought up the US having a moral high ground.
This is about US national interests coinciding with the moral failings of Iran’s leadership.
Minoleal@reddit
American excepcionalism is just propaganda and the fact that you eat that up is shameful in the information era.
You are powerful because you are willing to commit every single crime you can imagine to get power and are good at it, may it be slavery, genocide, torture or coups, you are behind of easily half the problems of the world and are so unwilling to accept it that it's clear you are a lost cause.
MelodiusRA@reddit
lmao just read a book dude.
this was just sad
namikazeiyfe@reddit
So your entire moral compass only depends on whether those who are committing crimes against humanity are opposed to USA? So as long as they are fighting a war against the US they are free to kill as many of their own people as they like so long as it helps their war effort against the US?
My goddess!
Minoleal@reddit
A lot of baseless assumptions, I'm just pointing out the hipocrisy of pointing fingers at Iran when USA and Israel are doing way worse things right now and they have no extenuating circumstances to be taken in account other than distract people form their raping pedophile elites that screw up the world.
namikazeiyfe@reddit
You're pointing out hypocrisy without even seeing the hypocrisy in your argument and how extremely depraved it sounds? Just wow!
Minoleal@reddit
I see how you pretend to fabricate consent by focusing on the defender instead of the invaders.
namikazeiyfe@reddit
No I'm focusing on the people who are getting executed just because. That's the moral stand to take. Your argument makes it seem like you would have excused the Nazis executing dissenters just because they were facing an existential war.
ThevaramAcolytus@reddit
The NSDAP was facing an existential war, yes, but one of their own choosing after invading a series of many different countries on two continents.
Iran hasn't invaded another country since the 1730s, almost 300 years ago and before the U.S. was even a country.
Two entirely and wholly different situations.
rollandownthestreet@reddit
It’s only existential for 1% of the population that’s in the leadership and IRGC. Lol
juflyingwild@reddit
Germany is arresting protestors for words.
Zipz@reddit
So the Israeli government are extremist for including it
But people yelling it aren’t ?
Funny double standard
champagneface@reddit
They didn’t say the Israeli government are extremists for including it
moonorplanet@reddit
Australia is arresting people and raiding peoples homes early in the morning for wearing T-Shirts or saying words.
BurialA12@reddit
The Kid Starver in no.10 arresting people for social media post
namikazeiyfe@reddit
Which includes executing their own people right? This is like saying that Nazi Germany was in the right to execute Germans who were against them.
Decent_Cheesecake_29@reddit
And facing militias (terrorists) that the US and Israel have been openly arming.
WurstofWisdom@reddit
What the fuck is with these comments?
You can be critical of the bullshit and awfulness of the US/Israeli attacks - and also be critical of the absolutely fucked Iranian regime.
People here trying to justify the actions, or outright deny the actions of a government with a long history of brutality. The fuck is wrong with you?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
nobody is justifying shit here.
WurstofWisdom@reddit
You seem to flipping between both denial and justification if your comments on this thread. “Oh they are traitors and deserve it” then squeaking “that didn’t happen” .
Proud bootlicker are we?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
i have neither written 'they deserve it' nor have i written 'it didnt happen'
MysteriousDegree7765@reddit
I honestly don’t believe this for even a second. Mainstream outlets have been way less careful with how they present their propaganda over the last few years. We’ve already seen countless straight up lies about Iran since before the US went full sea-piracy
Zipz@reddit
You don’t believe that Iran is holding public executions?
You do know a two second google search will tell you you’re wrong right?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
executing traitors and enemy spies is normal
Zipz@reddit
So a second ago it wasn’t happening now it’s normal ?
Let alone can we see this evidence that they were spies ?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
you seem confused.
israel and america both confirmd they had agents in Iran and gave certain groups weapons to overthrow the government
what would you call those people? what would you call Iranians who decided to work for the enemy?
Zipz@reddit
It’s funny you believe Israel and trump now? The two biggest liars said something and you believe them why?
Let alone again you skipped over what I asked for. I want actual evidence. You know these people went to court right ? So where’s the evidence they did anything ?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
last summer the war began with drone strikes. those drones were built in a Tehran warehouse by Mossad agents and used to assassinate a pile of islamist leaders
do you know who the Mojahedin e Khalq are?
Zipz@reddit
One more time 100s of executions planed
Zero evidence has been shown to anyone
I want actual evidence show me
WestcoastAlex@reddit
go sit in court while they are facing charges. this is reddit.
Zipz@reddit
It’s funny how you don’t care people are being killed with zero evidence in kangaroo courts where they torture people for confessions
Says a lot about you
WestcoastAlex@reddit
falling for obvious propaganda says a lot about you
like someone said earlier, if it was shown Russia sent agents into america during protests to shoot police and instigate violence.. what do you expect would happen?
Zipz@reddit
If Russia did that
America would take them to court and show evidence before they killed them
It’s not complicated
Most the world is going against the death penalty. Yet you are cheering the regime on while they produce zero evidence
WestcoastAlex@reddit
they have been in court. evidence was given
nobody is cheering them on you moron
Zipz@reddit
Then show me the evidence……
It’s wild you don’t even get it. They are being killed based on confessions while being tortured.
You must of missed what they did to Saleh Mohammadi. It’s funny you talk about evidence while all evidence showed it wasn’t him
WestcoastAlex@reddit
https://www.turkiyetoday.com/region/pro-netanyahu-israeli-channel-says-protestors-in-iran-armed-by-foreign-actors-3212919
Zipz@reddit
I’ll ask again
Bibi isn’t known for being truthful
So why do you believe him now ? I know you never believed him before so why now ?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
"Foreign actors are arming Iran's protesters with weapons, which has resulted in a relatively significant number of casualties among Iranian security force personnel," Channel 14 reported Tuesday.
Zipz@reddit
So again
You never believed them before
Why do you believe them now ?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/35200
Zipz@reddit
Iran announces
Iran doesn’t show
Again you keep missing the point
WestcoastAlex@reddit
https://youtu.be/lG1g3BokSIc
Zipz@reddit
A random YouTube channel
You do understand I’m not saying riots didn’t happen right?
Again it’s funny how hard you are going to defend the regime
It’s funny also how you ignored the wrestler and keep ignoring all the cases where people are killed with zero evidence
WestcoastAlex@reddit
https://youtu.be/6r35DEBLecw
yes i understand. the protests were non violent until the israeli agents showed up with weapons and shot at police
this isnt defending the regime, its explaining what happenned to a moron
you are demanding evidence and i keep showing it to you
do you even know who the Mojahedine Khalq is?
Zipz@reddit
Again when people go to court the court is expected to show evidence before they kill them
Where is the evidence
Like in the case of Saleh Mohammadi where all the evidence pointed to it not being him
WestcoastAlex@reddit
Saleh killed a police officer during riots and was arrested there
Zipz@reddit
No he wasn’t
And all evidence actually points to him not being there
He was tortured and his confession under torture was what was used to give him the death sentence
Why are you bending backwards in defending the regime?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
thats what you say.
bearkin1@reddit
Look at OP's post history. His entire account is pro-monarchist, pro-imperialist, Islamophobic content. He is a bad-faith poster who is here to spread propaganda in support of the US invasion of Iran.
avroLancasterBPR1@reddit
This sub is full of people who only post about 1 specific issue exclusively
bearkin1@reddit
You're right, but there's still a difference between posting in support of death and posting in defiance of murder
jaynic1@reddit
Report
Metasenodvor@reddit
Iran - 228 prisoners per 100,000
US - 542 prisoners per 100,000
"According to the U.S.-based Human Rights News Agency (HRANA), over 7,000 people – including at least 6,488 protesters – were killed in the protests". Wasn't it 30k people?
Also, does anyone expect an US agency to be neutral in this?
WestcoastAlex@reddit
HRNA is the verybsame agency that hyped the '30,000 dead morgues are full" propaganda in Jwnuary .. then they quietly revised their number to 6000ish
MelodiusRA@reddit
Somehow, this sub’s usual suspects will defend the the hundreds of executions of young 20-somethings as a righteous crusade against the wicked West
Dorkzilla_ftw@reddit
It's already happening in the comments. What a pitiful bootlicker sub.
MelodiusRA@reddit
It’s literally just a bunch of anti-West tankies. Zero critical thinking.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
who do you suggest deserves the blame for this?
evil__brain@reddit
Imagine if Putin admitted to arming terrorists in the US who went on to kill over 3000 people including 200 policemen, and burned down hundreds of government buildings and mosques.
You Americans... I just can't!
WestcoastAlex@reddit
bingo 👍 exactly
Nine-Eyes-@reddit
What, like Putin arming seperatists in the Donbas in Ukraine before going on to kill thousands of civilians and invading the country?
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
Well who was it who killed all the moderate leaders in Iran and let these hardliners take over? Surely not the wonderful West?
MelodiusRA@reddit
The guys that got killed were not moderate lmfao
What kind of braindead idiot thinks Khomenei was a moderate xD
WestcoastAlex@reddit
he was moderate
haggerton@reddit
He issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons. What kind of braindead idiot thinks he wasn't?
namikazeiyfe@reddit
While overseeing enrichment of close to 60-70 percent? What kind of brain-dead idiot thinks that was weapon grade? That fatwa was just to blind side useful idiots
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
Compared to the people in charge now? Yes he was.
namikazeiyfe@reddit
They have always been in charge. It's crazy how ignorant most of you really are on this things.
MelodiusRA@reddit
And you are basing this on absolutely nothing
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
Khamenei Jr was the IRGC's favoured candidate and if you've read literally any background on him it'll say that he's more hardline than his father was. But I'm guessing you're not the reading type.
MelodiusRA@reddit
He’s dead.
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
Oh for fuck's sake, I figured you were dumb but this really takes the cake. Who do you think is the supreme leader of Iran right now?
GianfrancoZoey@reddit
They're a 10 month old account who supports genocide and writes rage bait comments, they're not stupid they're being intentionally malicious
MelodiusRA@reddit
A cabal of IRGC elites that don’t want to get bombed by saying “I’m the guy in charge”
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
...and your sincere belief is that this "cabal of IRGC elites" is less hardline than Khamenei Sr was?
MelodiusRA@reddit
They’re all about as bad, with minor differences, yes.
Potatoe_Potahto@reddit
Tell me more about "basing this on absolutely nothing". LMAO.
MelodiusRA@reddit
They literally all want to push their ideology on the region at large and just have differing perspectives on how to get there. They are all just as hardline but want to use different methods.
It’s really not that complex. Your response is extremely telling you have no no clue what you’re even talking about lmao.
Advanced-Net-8119@reddit
we will blow them up too /s
Future-Excuse6167@reddit
I mean, you are basically saying if you are an evil regime and kill a few hundred of your citizens, then that gives another country the right to come in and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians to depose you and replace you with a regime that pinky swears to be Good and Serve the People?
Nobody is defending the execustions. We're just saying it's not enough reason to invade a country if you really do care about human life or human rights, which, spoiler: the US and Israel demonstrably do not.
WestcoastAlex@reddit
agreed 👍
MelodiusRA@reddit
Hundreds of Thousands? Bro what fantasyland do you get your news from
haggerton@reddit
It's not news, it's history. The US will do to Iran what it did to other countries in the Middle-East.
https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/costs/human
MelodiusRA@reddit
lmao imagine blaming a single belligerent for decades of administrative mismamagement by dozens dictatorships.
I hope you didn’t pay for any degree because it was obviously wasted.
haggerton@reddit
Whatever you say Nazi bootlicker.
MelodiusRA@reddit
Fuck fascists and fuck authoritarian bootlickers like you.
Control the narrative on some otherpost.
RdPirate@reddit
And the bombings expanded the power of the executioners and killed their opponents. Strange...
BabylonianWeeb@reddit
I have seen more people defending bombings of Iran than Iran executions here
Virtual-Pension-991@reddit
Let me guess, the rest being putting the toic back to the US and Israel?
BendicantMias@reddit
We literally have an American above in this very post who's calling for a genocide...
PartySr@reddit
Zionist who defended Israel actions in Gaza, and denied every atrocity committed by Israel, now pretends that it cares about others.
VicenteOlisipo@reddit
Wait, so having Trump and Netanyahu coming out and saying they're the ones orchestrating the protests (regardless of whether that is true or not) didn't make the regime more tolerant of protests? Who could have guessed?
redux44@reddit
"Shiva, a London-based Iranian journalist, says she has received direct threats from Iranian security forces, been labelled a “traitor” and had her assets in Iran confiscated. Shiva and other Iranians who spoke with ABC News in recent days asked not to be identified by their real names because of security concerns."
Was she cheering on the US/Israeli bombing of Iran? If so than this is par for the course.
PsychologicalSet8678@reddit
Probably.
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