legality question
Posted by PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit | GunnitRust | View on Reddit | 17 comments
so I know open bolt firearms are often considered readily convertible machine guns if they can feed from a detatchable magazine. does anyone know the legality of an open bolt firearm feeding from a non-detatchable tube magazine?
Gandalf1025@reddit
Still a potential machine gun. Or AOW.
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
yep. thanks for the reply, a few people have said the same thing. that's a shame.
FredyOriley@reddit
I would not worry about the legality of a semi auto open bolt gun. The Atf likes to point out how readily convertible they are but some how an ar15 lower receiver with the correct inner space layout with the correct fire control group and bolt carrier isn't automatically considered readily convertible? There's several relatively unknown gun tubbers that has tapped themselves making semi auto open bolt guns and they are still free. These laws more so target firearms manufacturers then private citizens.
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
I mean yeah, but even if I wasn't even a little concerned about me getting in trouble, I'd still be concerned about contributing to putting GunnitRust under for "Illegal Activity".
PsychoTexan@reddit
Magazine type doesn’t really matter. It could be tube, drum, stick, pan, belt, stripper, wire, chain, revolver, hopper, integral, external, magazine take your pick. If there are two rounds that could be separately fired with the same movement with minor modification then it’s an mg and your dog is forfeit.
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
aw. I was kinda hoping to do an open bolt tube-fed pistol, but I guess that's a bust for now.
60rds@reddit
Nothings illegal if nobody knows
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
yeah, but if I made it, I'd post it on here.
Daedalus308@reddit
I know that the likelihood of rounds detonating inside a mag tube has been exaggerated over the years, but i fear that the impulse of a repeating arm might increase those odds greatly. Open bolt legality aside, keep that in mind.
firearmresearch00@reddit
Marlin made multiple semi and bolt action tube fed 22s. Never heard of someone popping one accidentally other than the typical tube fed dropping a round straight down when loading
Daedalus308@reddit
Well for a .22 that's different. Lead tip, rim fire, yeah id be significantly less concerned
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
yeah, I considered the possibility of wood or plastic spacers, but I bet it would turn out fine.
TacTurtle@reddit
Any magazine would be considered a machine gun.
The one exceptions was open bolt single shots like the Cobray Terminator or a number of cheap 22 rimfires.
Emach00@reddit
Stupid NFA.
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
okay, yeah. I kinda figured this might be the answer, but I had to hope.
Emach00@reddit
Or go full Keltec Grendal and feed it from a non-detatchable box mag loaded by stripper clips.
PhilosophyEnough1866@reddit (OP)
I thought of that, but it sounds harder to make.