Croatian friends: Whats your opinion on Marko Perkovic ?

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No_One_Special13@reddit

Canadian born Croat here. My parents arent radicals. Just typical overly religious diaspora. Raised listening to Thompson. Loved "Lijepa Li Si"... almost felt like an anthem at all the Croatian dances we have in the community. I never associated Thompson with the Ustase. That was until I went to a concert of his when he visited Canada. I noticed a group of Croats at the concert who legit had flags with the "U" in it. Sorta became an awakening for me in that regard. Proudly a Canadian Croat... but never Ustase. Ive even remember Croatia beating England in the WC 2018 and riding my bike in my jersey to a place I knew Croats would come together to celebrate. Riding my bike down a road and a random person shouting out to me... "Za Dom!". I did not answer back. I hate that patriotism for some is tied to such a dark time. Not for me.

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legolas1982@reddit

I went to Canada this winter for a family visit and was really shocked with level of nationalism in some Canada born croatians over there. I don't understand why they have need for that,maybe they think that they must be bigger croatians than those people actually born in Croatia. PS i am croat from Bosnia and Herzegovina.

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MammothTrifle3616@reddit

Croat always, ustaša never. I'm a left leaning Croatian patriot with no yugonostalgia, and I'm ashamed of my countrymen who listen to Thompson. Mind you, Thompson fans are still a minority in Croatia, a very large and vocal minority, but a minority nonetheless.

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Fantastic-Reading-78@reddit

Sadly Ustase were not minority in Croatia, sadly

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Fantastic-Reading-78@reddit

Respect from your ex yu nation member :*

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_BREVC_@reddit

What is there to “believe”? The dude straight up payed a tribute to a neo-ustaša terrorist that murdered some random American cop on that concert. He’s openly telling you what he stands for.

Also, treating him like some persecuted victim of “mass media” is very funny in the context of Croatia, where all of the government officials that actually run the country treat Thompson as an infallible saint.

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arhisekta92@reddit

To me the worst thing about Thompson's concert is that the prime minister brought his kids and took photos with the man.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

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Fantastic-Reading-78@reddit

-I will start, First there was 498 000 then 499 000 then 505 000 then 495 000 then 500 000 people the number was going around all the time like somebody have in mind that number and lets fill it.
-Can he bring 500 000 people yes Croatians in highschools more than 55% think that "Za dom spremni" is fine salute (nazzi salute). So he can bring it but this time I highly doubt.
-When you see place on google earth and size of Hippodrome and then picture from police helicopter in 9 o clock you can see its not full, there is so much distance between people, my prediction comparing to one of biggest concerts in the world and how dense they were, he had 180 000 -200 000 people not more.
-Only this pictures from police drone from top are present there is no other picture drones from above, just from concert, and when you look from that perspective it looks crowded but you cant tell how much is there.
-So it is really confusing in era of drones only Police done pictures.

comparing to square meters and total space for concert this is not 500 000 people.
I think this was some kind money laundering through tickets.

https://x.com/mup_rh/status/1941582003502973104

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

Who cares ?

This guy is banned in the developed world for his fascist view and yet filling Stadions in Croatia where they do their 1945 Hitler Chant

This concert should have never taken place at all

Who cares if it was 300 000 or 500 00

He has many supporters who didn’t attend

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arhisekta92@reddit

well bro sorry to be late to the party, but if you weren't aware the black team has won in every yugoslav republic after the dissolution. the funny era between 2000-2010 was marked by EU entirely shutting it's eyes on worshipping nazism in Croatia, so now we have a developed youth that think ZDS is an ancient Croat salute :)

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Fantastic-Reading-78@reddit

true, just pointing out how big tool are these fascist and how easy is to manipulate them for personal gain.

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Mojakozica@reddit

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Fred_Neecheh@reddit

Singing about, and celebrating, Jasenovac is not enpugh for you to form an opinion on him?

No, he didnt sing about it at the concert but he did perform za Dom spremni, notorious Ustaše greeting "with ancient roots".

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

nothing to see here

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Key-Football-7492@reddit

Nice AI

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

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Key-Football-7492@reddit

Nah I just don’t like AI slop and fake content

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_BREVC_@reddit

That is a pretty famous (and genuine) picture from his interview with a Croatian magazine Arena, dated to February 1996. Can’t say if the colored version was AI modified (the original was published in black and white I believe), but it is a 100% genuine picture.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

😂😂😂 his love for Pavelic is everything but fake

Shitson was performing with the number of an Croat terrorist on his past performance

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Key-Football-7492@reddit

Judging by your logic a lot of Serbian singers shouldn’t be allowed to sing either but they do.

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Fred_Neecheh@reddit

Op asked about Thompson, but yes, I agree, of course. That said, none of them could draw a crowd anywhere near 500 k (let alone proportional to population, aa croatia has a population of 3.82 million).

To this day I cant believe a nazi-adjacent (ustaša-lovimg) singer drew a crowd that big.

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NoSync22@reddit

The number is probably a little lower than that, but it’s still enormous vs the population of the country. Shameful.

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Fred_Neecheh@reddit

To me it was shocking also because I am well aware how many Croats were against it, and not just on the left of the political spectrum.

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Ok-Cat4471@reddit

500.000 people? Where?

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Far_Country_1629@reddit (OP)

Management said they sold that amount, which should be easily confirmed.

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Fantastic-Reading-78@reddit

I highly doubt it was money laundering

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Adept-One-4632@reddit

Many of these people are probably what we in the academia call "bots"

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Far_Country_1629@reddit (OP)

Management said they sold that amount, which should be easily confirmed.

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Expert-Tip3011@reddit

КРАЉУ ДМИТРЕ ЗВОНИМИРЕЕЕ

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CTPABA_KPABA@reddit

who in the made up???

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MammothTrifle3616@reddit

There were more than 3 million Croats from Croatia who didn't go to this concert. Just to put things in perspective. A lot of those who attended were from Germany, Bosnia, Austria, Australia... and other diaspora.

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Far_Country_1629@reddit (OP)

Its a still a lot people. For example there was 7 million people out on the streets of Argentina when they won the world cup 4 years ago, and minimizing that by saying "well, that means 49 million of them did not go out to celebrate" would be dumb. It was a big concert.

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Kitchen-Macaroon9705@reddit

Wartime singer who got into a softer,catholic rock sort of after the war.. Croat and Serb leftist's biggest nightmare ,besides them nobody cares about his past and people are mostly into his music.

I would argue and die on that hill that serbs love to listen to him,he is their guilty pleasure and if Thompson ever wrote a song about heroism of Serb people they would come out in mass to say he is underrated artist who never actually hated Serbs... I think Thompson writing a song about Serbs would destroy the entire balkan left

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Mojakozica@reddit

Why would an obviously mentally ill person be someone's biggest nightmare lol? I'm also 100% sure you guys unknowingly listen Baja mali Mindža on cajka parties. And I don't see why would someone in Serbia listen to Tupson when you have much better artists than him.

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

such a neandertaler take, you think a serb listen to a person who sings 1945 was a bad year ? are you out of ur mind ?

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Kitchen-Macaroon9705@reddit

Sure,a Serb could think 1945 as a bad year for his country,i mean you just get apsorbed into another Yugoslav entity ,after attempted genocide on your people ,with 2 serb province cut off,and no way of saying anything since your country is now under communist control and Red Army in capital city...

1945 bad year that spread us all around the world,deff can be true for a Serb.

I don't see why a Serb would not listen to "Prijatelji" or any of the love songs unless standing by some "principles"

I am not ashamed ,i blast chetnik music also ,only major snowflakes get triggered by a fucking song.

So is making a statue of nazi collaborator like the one in Nis ,and one with the whole room in Belgrade,oh and one in Ravna Gora,maybe Serbia should too follow other example

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Imaginary_String_814@reddit

But you should be, it has little to do with being triggered.

I am always impressed how you guys have no shame, unbelievable and finally you put off ur mask, so you actually are a Shitson fan.

Get some serious help, for Serbs 1945 was a good year, considering it ended the genocide, discrimination and oppression they were facing by their very own people.

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LenaLena93@reddit

I don’t know about Croatians, whether they are fans for his war songs specifically, or is he some kind of.. zeitgeist moment for them lol, but you are wrong about Serbs.

We could never took this as lighthearted to be “a guilty pleasure”.

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oops_all_memes@reddit

I do not want to believe mass media´s views on him, i feel its better to get it straight from the people.

You don't need to believe mass media, you can open his lyrics and draw your own conclusions

I've seen similar threads pop up before with Croatians being in heavy denial so I don't know what you expect to see here

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Far_Country_1629@reddit (OP)

I dont speak Croatian nor i have time to be translating lyrics, faster to ask here.

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Far_Country_1629@reddit (OP)

Thanks for the observation. Was just curious.

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