Need to align with HIPAA & CSV - onprem vs cloud
Posted by ontherise84@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 4 comments
Hello there,
I'm currently the sole syadmin for a small biotech company. We're in europe and we're evaluating a couple of collaborations with US companies, but they require HIPAA & (possibly) CSV. We are thinking of getting ISO 27001 certified as a baseline to start our (long) journey towards them.
We currently have an onprem datacenter with HPC, AD, K8S clusters, Proxmox VMs and around 30 laptops. We have Microsoft 365 as a collaboration platform.
In order to cope with unmutable logs, certified datacenters and so on, would it be easier to totally ditch the onprem network and shift toward 100% cloud (Azure) ? Apart from the laptops I mean - but the can be joined to Entra ID.
Thanks for any help/opinion
Head_Personality_431@reddit
ISO 27001 is a solid starting point and will give you a good framework before tackling HIPAA and CSV requirements. On the cloud vs onprem question, Azure does make a lot of the technical controls easier to evidence during audits, things like immutable logging through Sentinel and certified datacenters are basically handled for you. That said, 27001 doesn't require cloud, and plenty of companies get certified with onprem setups, it just means more legwork on your end to demonstrate those controls. If you're already in M365 and considering Entra ID for the laptops, leaning further into the Azure ecosystem probably makes your life easier in the long run.
InstructionDirect773@reddit
I was in a similar spot about three years ago at a smaller med device company in Germany—suddenly we're getting inquiries from US partners and our CEO's like "yeah we're HIPAA compliant" and I'm sitting there like... are we though? It was genuinely stressful because it wasn't just about the tech stack, it was realizing how much operational stuff we'd been doing casually that would need to be actually documented and intentional.
Here's the thing that helped me: HIPAA and CSV sound scarier than they actually are when you break them down. HIPAA is mostly about access controls, encryption, and audit trails. CSV is just the EU's version of GxP requirements—it's pharmaceutical stuff but the principles overlap. Getting ISO 27001 certified is a genuinely smart move and honestly, most of the work you do for that will count toward both frameworks anyway, so you're not starting from zero.
The practical stuff I'd actually focus on right now: get your hands dirty with your current infrastructure and map out who has access to what. You're probably the only person touching a lot of systems, which is actually both good and bad—good because you know what's happening, bad because you need documented procedures so when you eventually hire people, they have clear guardrails. Document everything, even the stuff that seems obvious to you now. For the
InstructionDirect773@reddit
Honestly, the on-prem vs cloud thing is less about where your data sits and more about who can actually *audit* it properly. If you're going for HIPAA compliance, you'll need solid logging and monitoring in place regardless — cloud providers usually have better built-in audit trails, but on-prem means you have tighter control if you set it up right. ISO 27001 is definitely a good starting point, but heads up that HIPAA and CSV have some specific requirements (like Business Associate Agreements, encryption standards, breach notification procedures) that go beyond what 27001 covers, so you'll need to layer those on top.
tlrman74@reddit
I'm working at a US based medical device manufacturer and have been working towards the same requirements. To get my logging in order across a hybrid environment I implemented WAZUH SIEM. It can collect logs from all your local devices plus cloud services and give you HIPAA compliance stats and recommendations. I've just started implementing some of the Linux endpoint hardening to standardize server and will hit the Windows servers next. It's a pretty comprehensive system that will take while to fully implement but in the long run will make us that faster to onboard new systems and stay compliant.