Why are some people so anti-helmet? I’m kinda worried about my bro
Posted by Consistent_Debate637@reddit | ebikes | View on Reddit | 98 comments
I just saw that e-bike crash clip going around—the one where the rider goes over the bars and lands head-first. It looked almost funny for a split second, and then it really didn’t.
It got me thinking about helmets. Why do some people push back on them so hard?
I’ve been trying to get my bro to wear one, but she’s completely against it. him main thing is that helmets feel stuffy and distracting, and he thinks being uncomfortable will actually make him ess focused while riding.
he only rides short distances on quiet streets, but that honestly doesn’t make me feel better. Most accidents happen close to home anyway, and cars don’t really care how “easy” your route is.
For people who’ve dealt with this—how do you approach it?
Is the comfort argument actually a dealbreaker for some, or is it more of a mindset thing?
And more importantly, how do you convince someone without coming off like you’re nagging them?
I’m not trying to control him, I just want him to be safe.
musicfan-1969@reddit
Stupidity mostly.... whenever I get funny looks or comments, my reply is "I'm way too old to be mercyflighted to the ER with a fractured skull, bro"
Liarus_@reddit
It's one more thing to carry, care about, to buy, and it slightly affects your neck mobility.
That being said, refusing to wear a helmet is just gambling your life for absolutely zero gain, a helmet is something you will rarely need, but the times it will do it's job will most likely prevent life changing injury.
To put it simply: people who do not wear helmets are simply stupid.
Worldly_Abalone6341@reddit
Helmets limit field of view. Nobody likes to admit it but its true. Id still wear a helmet though.
highinthemountains@reddit
How can a bike helmet limit your field of view? Does it have extra wide straps? A full face does somewhat limit the view though
Worldly_Abalone6341@reddit
Put a full face helmet on. Start way outside your peripheral view. Move your finger from outside your view until you can see it. Do that same without the helmet. Do you see your finger sooner or later without the helmet? Thats how it limits your view.
Hungryforflavor@reddit
Do you turn your head to look left and right while your driving your car ? Well the same goes if u have a helmet on or not . U dont have eyes on the sides of your head
Hungryforflavor@reddit
Maybe on a full face motorcycle but not on a bicycle helmet
Outrageous_Purchase1@reddit
I just saw a great video about convincing people to wear helmets: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JfbTwrtOWU
Tl;dw: Acknowledge his beef with helmets, but argue that the risk of what he's doing and the speed at which he's doing it. Also maybe help him buy a nice, higher end helmet that isn't uncomfortable.
drewfromthefuture@reddit
I was going to recommend this video!
Melodic-Matter4685@reddit
you make yer case and you walk away. All that presenting more evidence or trying to convince people does is make them double down.
Bro gotta figure it out for themselves and as a friend, you just gotta let them.
Hungryforflavor@reddit
No brain no pain , unfortunately this is not the case , unless he or she is doing stunts u dont plan on crashing . I have been on a couple low speed crashes both times my helmet saved me to just talk about it instead of a trip to the ER .
PghSubie@reddit
Some people are anti helmet. Some people are idiots. There's not really much that you can do about them
PuzzledActuator1@reddit
I've been thrown off a bike onto a curb and smashed my head on it just riding around when I slipped on what was probably oil. I credit my helmet with potentially saving my life. The helmet was destroyed, but I walked away with a few scratches and no concussion.
BoringBob84@reddit
Well said! We never know when it is going to happen.
ZombeeSwarm@reddit
OMG I had the same thing happen to me. I was riding on a bike lane going fairly slow and suddenly I was just on the ground covered in blood. I fractured my nose and bit through my bottom lip (6 stitches) and was totally concussed. There was grease from the restaurant or a food truck or something in the bike lane, totally invisible. I cant imagine what would have happened if I didn't have my helmet.
Erander@reddit
Destroyed helmet did it's job, couldve been your skull
Ur-in-a-tor@reddit
It takes a specific type of stupid to gamble when there is nothing to win.
BoringBob84@reddit
There is plenty to win. A helmet is one more thing that we need to buy, maintain, and remember to use on every ride - cost, effort, and inconvenience. A helmet messes up our hair, makes our head uncomfortable and hot, and isolates us from the wonderful feel of the breeze.
With that said, modern bicycle helmets with air vents can be rather light and comfortable. I still choose to wear one for safety, but I can understand when people choose otherwise in certain situations.
wedstrom@reddit
I don't think your down votes are fair because it's important to acknowledge the reasons people don't wear helmets even if we advocate for universal adoption. In places with excellent bike infrastructure like the Netherlands, these sorts of concerns honestly win out and nobody wears a helmet. Maybe someday.
In the meantime I literally wear a 4/5 star impact tested rotational impact standard motorcycle helmet and gloves.
BoringBob84@reddit
Downvoting comments that are polite and factual just because I have a different opinion is a violation of "Reddiquete," but since there are no consequences, many people still do it. I pay little attention to it. Unless someone can point out the flaws in my reasoning, simply disagreeing with me is of no consequence.
I am a strong advocate for wearing helmets, but that doesn't mean that I pretend there are no benefits to not wearing one - just that the safety benefit far outweighs the inconvenience in my opinion.
BWWFC@reddit
ya know... think this every time out in traffic diving a car. mostly just emotions driving every decision out there to get to the next light and judgemental impeding others lol
Snarkosaurus99@reddit
I like that.
urtv@reddit
Probably because he hasn't found a cool looking helmet
NefariousnessOther28@reddit
It's the best when people say that helmet's don't look cool... what really does not cool is a brain injury, maybe you need someone to feed you or change your diapers because you're brain doesn't work properly any more. But hey, at least you didn't look like a dork with that helmet on. Helmet's are like seat belts, when you need one you really need one and you never know when that's going to happen.
zeitgeistincognito@reddit
True story. Used to be a case manager for the TBI waiver in my state. Brain injuries do not increase ones cool quotient.
Also, people assume they'll just be dead...but that is frequently not the case. Loss of ability to independently mentally function, loss of friends and extended family because TBI can dramatically change personality, sometimes loss of ability to independently physically function (walking, talking, toileting, etc), none of it is remotely "cool".
The_walking_man_@reddit
jekkies-@reddit
people who ride without helmets look as far from cool as possible lmao. they look stupid as fuck
GMN123@reddit
Modern helmets like POC definitely look cooler than my rapidly diminishing hair.
BenTheHokie@reddit
Anyone that doesn't wear a helmet doesn't have a whole lot to protect up there.
aredridel@reddit
Not wearing helmets is common in places with better safety than the US. The problem is cars — honestly even having been hit by cars five times now, I've had my helmet hit the ground zero times. The risks are not as great as we estimate.
However, it's extremely true that helmets save lives. They take a smallish (not small enough) number, and more than halve it.
That's the weird thing about thinking about this stuff. "Wear a helmet" is a very doctor-like statistical reduction in risk, not really perceptible in a single person's life very well, but statistically quite meaningful.
On quiet residential streets? On bike paths and being the sort of person who's polite to people walking? Probably actually fine in every meaningful way. That behavior does way more than a helmet.
But if you're biking on city streets, on non-separated bike lanes, on the shoulder near traffic, or heaven forbid, on mountain trails? The risk has climbed so much that you are in fact an idiot for not wearing a helmet, and in one of those cases, full-face protection.
Kong28@reddit
It's like my seatbelt. I've never been in a car accident but in case I do, I'm 100% taking wearing a seatbelt vs not wearing a seatbelt.
Terrorphin@reddit
You would be safer still if you wore a helmet in the car - and yet you chose not to do that - taking a small but potentially significant risk. The difference is only in where you draw the line.
BoringBob84@reddit
The risk without a helmet is literally death. And if we consider it idiocy not to wear a full-face helmet to protect our face, then it would also be idiocy not to protect every other part of our bodies with pads and armor.
I don't want my face covered. It interrupts my visibility, it is heavy, and it is uncomfortable. I accept the risk of a facial injury. I do not accept the risk of death.
unseenmover@reddit
Let um. I always wear one..
MesugakiBratTamer@reddit
Because some people don't like the way bicycle helmets look (many would say they look dorky); I personally don't like the way they look either. That's why I opted for a way better-looking German Half Helmet from my local motorcycle dealer/shop
ScoobyDooItInTheButt@reddit
Helmets are uncomfortable when you've never worn one before. That's the same for anything else they've worn like watches, hats etc. it's different. The helmet keeps your ass alive though so either you get used to it or you risk a permanent life change. I didn't like the feel of helmets before. They've saved my life multiple times.
Laserdollarz@reddit
That's why I always recommend people go to a store and try them on. You gotta find something you will WANT to wear.
Honestly, wearing a full helmet was bizarre at first. I felt goofy and enclosed. The cheap one I first purchased was really bad and wasn't doing me any favors. 12k miles and three helmets later, I love my helmets.
My gf's birthday is this week and I'm taking her to a store for a new summer helmet. She's very excited about it.
tokin247@reddit
FF ftw. I just ordered a fox rampage vault. I've been without one doing reckless stuff for too long. I figure the extra chin protection is necessary going 40+kmh
Laserdollarz@reddit
My girlfriend works at a dental office. I wear a full face because I do not want to have to call in an emergency favor from her boss lol.
BoringBob84@reddit
Modern, lightweight, vented bicycle helmets are much more comfortable than bulky motorcycle helmets.
ScoobyDooItInTheButt@reddit
They absolutely are. Either one will take an adjustment period so people just need to stick with it for a bit.
BoringBob84@reddit
When I started riding bicycles again, I was accustomed to motorcycle helmets. The bicycle helmet felt wonderfully light and comfortable in comparison.
Oakland-homebrewer@reddit
Same thing goes for skiiers...
SuccessfulVacation31@reddit
Also this. countries with the highest % of helmet wearers have the highest rates of injury.
https://d2p6e6u75xmxt8.cloudfront.net/2/2024/12/Utrecht-Netherlands-Cycling-profimedia-0891828809.webp
BodSmith54321@reddit
This has more to do with a county having a biking culture and infrastructure than it actually being less safe to wear a helmet.
SuccessfulVacation31@reddit
I didn't say less safe - I said helmets make very little differnce. Read up on what they are designed for - a low speed fall onto the ground. Read up about risk compensation.
BoringBob84@reddit
I disagree. I think that you are incorrectly presuming causation from correlation.
The_walking_man_@reddit
This.
Of course a higher population of bicycle riders would have a higher number of crashes.
The fact that they think helmets are the problem is a bit telling.
BoringBob84@reddit
It seems to be a common mistake (probably due to confirmation bias) for people to presume causation from correlation.
If that presumption was logical, then no one would drink water, because everyone who drinks water eventually dies (i.e., 100% correlation!).
In this particular case, to determine causation, we would have to compare injury rates between two cities with all other relevant factors being equal (especially infrastructure) and the only difference being the rates of bicycle helmet usage.
BodSmith54321@reddit
That's why you get one rated for higher speed.
https://nbda.com/nta-8776-vs-cpsc-why-your-helmets-safety-standard-matters/
RCPD_Rookie@reddit
In the motorcycle space, the pushback usually boils down to folks don’t like to be told they have to do something. I’m ATGAT (all the gear, all the time), but I recognize adults get to make their own decisions. Wear or don’t wear, I’m not going to judge.
SuccessfulVacation31@reddit
The thing is motorcycle helmets do actually protect - and motorcyclists risks are much higher. So higher risk and better protection
You wear all the gear all the time? Really? Neck brace? Body armour?
BoringBob84@reddit
All I see in a link is a picture. If it is true that there is a correlation between high rates of helmet usage and high rates of injuries injuries, then we cannot just presume causation.
Helmet usage may be high because the infrastructure is so dangerous, and the injury rate would be even higher if helmet usage were lower. I suspect that is the case in most of North America.
degoba@reddit
I don’t know but I won’t get on two wheels without a helmet. Not even around the block. A TBI is not only devastating for the individual but for their loved ones now turned caregivers.
InvestigatorSenior@reddit
it only takes one fall and consequences stay with you forever. I've flown OTB at speed last year, went head first into a tree and some bushes, dusted off and continued on my merry way. If not for helmet, gloves, glasses and kneepads that would be a very different outcome. Upgraded to a MIPS helmet afterwards for more safety at cost of bit less comfort.
But I totally understand your buddy's attitude. I was raised in riding culture where helmets were for loosers. Then we grown older and less indestructible and helmets got much more lighter and comfortable so there's no excuse not to wear one even testing bike on a parking lot.
tsigwing@reddit
Nothing worth protecting
LongDonSilver1978@reddit
I can only speak for me… I don’t like helmets at all. I don’t like anything on top of my head. I had to think long and hard… Because they just passed that law in New Jersey that you not only have to insure your electric bike, but you have to wear a helmet as well. If that ever passed in Florida(I doubt it would with our republican legislation.) I would probably go back to driving.
I had the same problem with wearing masks during the pandemic… I don’t like anything on my head/face.
I only ride on the sidewalk here in Florida, which it’s allowed… So I guess I’m on the safer side of things.
I think it’s a personal choice… And it should be.
SlashNreap@reddit
I mean, personal choice aside..
Imagine you end up crashing into a car with your bike, it's a family just going out to fetch some groceries. You were riding responsibly, but you didn't wear a helmet and hit your head wrong and died. Now these people have to deal with having killed you, for the rest of their lives. Does that sound like a "free" life to you?
Something that might not have happened if you wore a helmet.
Sometimes it's not all about you. But then again, I don't know. I might be too EU to understand that my choices for my own freedom should also not impede other people's. Because, yeah, having a preventable death on your conscience and record probably does impede that freedom.
So I wear gear, helmet and gloves on bicycles, full gear on motorcycles for my own safety and the safety of others. It's simple. Is it uncomfortable? Not really, except when it's scorching hot, but I'd rather be sweaty than dead.
GMN123@reddit
I mean, the issue here is poor driving, if they hit a cyclist riding responsibly they were clearly at fault and with or without a helmet they've likely caused life changing injuries. The driver isn't the victim in this analogy.
SlashNreap@reddit
I don't think you understood what I meant.
lNuggyl@reddit
For me its my head size.. my head is too damn big for a normal helmet and it makes me look ridiculous. Id have tk get a dirt bike helmet but then id get criticized for wearing those on an ebike. Some people will say they'd rather look stupid than a broken skull. But i cant find big head helmets that look good, they all make me look like im going to war.
Im open to suggestions
SlashNreap@reddit
Wait, you don't wear a full face helmet because other people say they look ridiculous..? Do you also not wipe after shitting just because people might think it's gay or something? lol
Wear your gear and find a helmet that fits your head. Who cares about what other people say, you don't wear these things for fashion you wear them for safety.
lNuggyl@reddit
Its not really because of fashion. I wore a dirt bike helmet in a college town one time, ONE TIME. and that one time I got pulled over because it looked like I was riding a dirt bike around town. After looking at my bike and realizing I wasn't, he said its because "i had a motorcycle helmet, and its meant for motorcycles"
Before I had it and after i took it off, I didnt have any issues.
NPVT@reddit
As a bicyclist whose been in wrecks with and without a helmet I say please wear a helmet. I also had a brother who got to donate his organs because he crashed over his handle bars and crushed his head into the ground. His mom told them to take him off of life support. Wear a helmet.
EstimateCritical9927@reddit
Just get a helmet that looks cool, then it’ll make you want to wear it more because it looks cool. That’s what I personally do.
Odd-Lime-2738@reddit
Ex-biker, so lids are a necessity. No argument needed.
But. Bicycle helmets are not designed for high speed impacts. One of the tougher standards uses a drop test from 2 metres. Which means I exceed it by simply falling over. (Big tall rando)
They slightly increase the risk of some injuries while lowering the severity of others. And it doesn’t matter what lid you’re wearing when an HGV parks on yer noggin.
If you’re doing bicycle speeds, they’re fine. I wear a melon-print one on my melon, which gets a laugh and gets me noticed, but it’s only a small part of road safety. Not even the most important part. Skills (such as not riding like a muppet, being traffic aware, riding to the conditions) are more important, but skills AND gear is the way.
Will a bicycle helmet save my life? Not too likely. Will I wear one? Absofuckinlutely.
Of course, if you’re determined to hoon around on badly maintained, poorly built emotorcycles at highway speeds while wearing a half inch of polystyrene designed for a 15mph impact, carry a donor card. Your organs are way more valuable than you are, so please try not to land on them.
RCPD_Rookie@reddit
I kind of have been going down a rabbit hole researching helmets lately, and while I agree with a lot of what you say, I feel there is a clarification that needs to be made. Normal bike helmets aren’t going to do much for crashes at e-bike speeds. However, NTA 8776 certified helmets are designed for impacts happening at class 3 (28 MPH) speed. And for the best chance at avoiding a traumatic brain injury, a helmet should also be MIPS and receive a 5 star rating in Virginia Tech’s helmet testing.
Odd-Lime-2738@reddit
Yeah, absolutely. Useful info, too!
It’s all changed a bit since back when Snell was all the go. I went down that exact same rabbit hole back in the 00’s.
Kingfisher317@reddit
I was helmet optional in my late teens but I've since realized that even though I didn't want to admit it to myself, I was worried about how I'd be perceived. Maybe find them a helmet that matches their style or their bike and see what they think.
BXRunner@reddit
Small brain = small helmets.
They must be outta their size, that's all.
Cold-Committee-7719@reddit
You can't save people from themselves. It seems like a regional thing. In some countries, its not cool. Around here, there are tons of cyclists and it's really rare to see someone without one. I don't think anyone is impressed by this behavior.
ladybugseattle@reddit
Seattle seems to have waived the existing law for all the rentals.
BoringBob84@reddit
There is no existing law.
The helmet law was in King County and it was recently repealed because it was being enforced disproportionately on poor and minority people, and because it was a barrier to bicycling for many people. Several cities in the area have their own helmet laws. However, Seattle is not among them.
https://www.kuow.org/stories/all-sides-in-the-helmet-law-repeal-debate-agree-wear-your-helmet
thephotoman@reddit
I don’t get it. I found myself picking up a full DOT helmet with face guard because getting dirt and bugs in my face while riding sucks.
It’s too nice to have that whole head coverage.
seweso@reddit
In the Netherlands - where we have more bikes than people - we rarely use helmets. At least not at the max 25 kph e-bikes, rarely see someone where a helmet on an (e) bike.
Research shows that you and vehicles around you take more risks if you wear a helmet. It does not actually make you safer in all cases.
Helmets are also the reason people don’t bike at all. It’s a great way to regulate bikes out of existing in the first place. Barrier to entry and all.
I’m not a fan. I would not even use a helmet on a 80 kph e-bike.
Militant_Triangle@reddit
Darwin at work.
BWWFC@reddit
it's just lazy. lazy is common and in great supply these days.
CautiousPerspective@reddit
I wouldn’t say I was anti helmet but I did go without for many years. Several reasons really. First I grew up not wearing a helmet. No one did. Didn’t wear one all through my 20s - 40s either. It just wasn’t a thing and I still see a lot of adults my age not wearing one. Never met anyone that crashed their bike and ended up with a head injury that wasn’t wearing a helmet. Broken bones and scrapes for sure which a helmet is going to help with that. Really didn’t seem like a major issue to me for a very long time. Kind of like it’s possible but so is getting struck by lightning.
The reasons for me boiled down to. Likelihood of a head injury, fit, comfort and vanity. It’s quite overwhelming when you make the decision to be dedicated in finding a helmet. There are so many helmets on the market with a huge range of cost.
Initially it’s like oh I’ll cave and buy a helmet. Only to start riding and have it slip down affecting eye sight or it just slides around so much that it’s not going to help anyway. Make a few purchases and it’s wasted money. There really is a lot into finding a helmet that fits well, decently comfortable and yep vanity, no one wants to look ugly.
After a lot of trial and error, wasted money and research. I realized I have an odd shaped head and my face is quite small. A challenging combo which makes sense why I never liked wearing hats or anything on my head. I don’t like the feeling.
When I meet someone that is “anti helmet” it’s rare they are choosing to be a rebel it’s mostly they have had the same experience as me. So I steer them toward a brand that I know fits a round head shape, oval, good ventilation, or tell them to try the several I have in my garage that I mistakenly purchased 😆
TopRepulsive4766@reddit
I require my boys to wear helmets...period. My thoughts on helmets is that they can often prevent injury in a crash. My boys have occasionally come down hard on their heads while dirt bike riding. And I feel if they hadn't been wearing their helmets (which took the impact), their heads would have taken the impact. I really really do not want my boys' heads taking that kind of impact. If I want my kid to have a head impact, I'll slap the boy myself...lol.
I do hear some argue against helmets. But I just tell them no harm can come of wearing a helmet. So why take unnecessary chances.
MattGarcia9480@reddit
Some people are just beyond hard headed. Hopefully the hard head is hard enough to survive falling or crashing. Tell him to sprint as fast as he can and then jump head first into the ground and let you know how that turns out.
Jeff61059@reddit
My helmet is comfortable and cool. I forget I’m wearing it.
SuccessfulVacation31@reddit
Read up on the real stats about it. ACROSS POPULATIONS helemet compulsions put folk off cycling thus increasing diseases of inactivity. Cycle helmets off very little protection, head injuries that are able to be mitigated by helmets are very rare, some injuries are made worse by helmets
Basically they are a fig leaf not an effective safety measure.
https://www.cyclinguk.org/briefing/cycle-helmets
Barbarake@reddit
I actually read the article and researched cycling UK's stance on helmets (neutral on individual helmet use, against mandatory helmet laws). I also read the meta-analysis on the studies used to determine their stance here..
https://www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2024-01/2401_Helmet%20Appendix%20A.pdf
In short, there are so many factors that go into whether or not someone gets hurt while cycling that is almost impossible to make a firm determination either way (up to and including the fact that people tend to act more recklessly when they feel better 'protected'). They also, by necessity, are based on things like hospital visits and therefore can't take into account people who didn't get hurt/go to the hospital because they were wearing a helmet.
Personally, I view it as a 'can't hurt' and will continue to wear a helmet.
Soup_Du_Journey@reddit
Maybe they are but anecdotally, I’ve been saved a rock through the skull three times by helmets and I’ve been grateful my noggin didn’t look like the helmet did afterwards. When I’ve crashed without a helmet, I’ve almost always wished I’d had one. If people don’t want to wear it, they shouldn’t have to, but I’d likely be dead without them if that means anything
Spamgrenade@reddit
In the cycling world there is a misguided belief that wearing a helmet makes you more unsafe.
Snarkosaurus99@reddit
Hmmmm. It will be interesting to see if OP replies. Something feels off.
It was nice in the before times when Reddit posts were posted by humans.
charismelia@reddit
I'll wear one on the bike commute where I'm next to cars in the bike lane, but I admittedly go without when I'm casually on the nearby trail in the park. I'm also conscious never to go more than 5 to 10 mph max though especially since I'm already watching for pedestrians, dogs, and other bikes.
It ruins my hair and is uncomfortable, but I have a white one that makes me feel like it's not just safety but another visibility tool, small as it is.
greybeard1363@reddit
Yep, until recently, I would have thought the same thing. And then a couple months ago, I was out riding. I was going down a sidewalk (that I probably should not have been on) to avoid speeding traffic on the street. I saw someone walking toward me in the distance, so I pulled off into the grass next to the sidewalk and stepped onto the ground, straddling the bike. I lost my balance, fell over with the ebike falling on top of me and the back of my head hit the sidewalk really hard. Without my helmet, it would have meant an ambulance ride and a concussion at a minimum. Now, I know, that something similar could have happened just doing stuff around home (non-bike related), but in this case, the helmet saved my brain. I will not ride without a helmet, the risk is now more obvious to me, especially since mitigation is available at the click of a chinstrap.
Public_Fucking_Media@reddit
Because we need organ donors
Proxy345@reddit
Funny enough I can't remember the last time I saw someone wearing a helmet on a ebike, aside from on youtube but it's extremely rare to see that in person despite how popular ebikes are.
pterencephalon@reddit
Regional/cultural? Most people I see are wearing helmets.
East_Worldliness2287@reddit
Stupid is as stupid does !
MonzellRS@reddit
Safety third
IntelligentOkra41@reddit
Drop an egg on the floor and say "that's your head if you wreck." Or make him read Humpty Dumpty.
GMN123@reddit
I'm all for wearing helmets. I choose to wear a helmet.
I'm completely against mandatory helmet laws. It dissuades people from cycling and that is bad for everyone's health and safety on our roads. Fewer cyclists mean less bike infrastructure and quality infrastructure and drivers that expect and understand how to behave around cyclist are far more important to safety than helmets are. It's not a coincidence that the safest places in the world to ride a bike do not make helmets mandatory and generally have low helmet use for commuter cycling.
arky_who@reddit
I wear one, but the stats on cycling don't bear out on it actually doing very much. It doesn't really cover the sort of injuries commuting cyclists tend to get, drivers give unhelmeted cyclists more space, and your long term life expectancy goes up on a bike whether you wear a helmet or not.
Granted most of those studies are for analogue bikes, but I can't see it being much different for class 1 ebikes.
ogsball@reddit
Good luck. Never underestimate the power of "It will never happen to me" stupid.
bringbackrall@reddit
Homie is auditioning for the Darwin Award.