Build refresh - Update from AM4 to AM5?
Posted by Rhesous@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 12 comments
Hi everyone,
I am currently running this setup:
- CPU: Ryzen 5600x
- CPU Cooler: Bequiet Dark Rock 4
- GPU: 5070Ti OC (Asus Prime)
- RAM: G Skill DDR4 16Go (2x8) 3200
- PSU: RMx 1000 Shift (the old version with the 12VHPWR)
- SSD: 1To Samsung EVO 980 + 1To Msi Spatum M470
- Motherboard: TUF GAMING B550 Plus Wifi II
- Case: Corsair Frame 4000D
I was quite happy with that build, but recently upgraded to a 4k screen, and now I am seeing stutters in my games, which apparently come from CPU (for instance I see an average loading of 70% but peaks over 100% and my GPU is between 80% and 92% load).
- My usage: I only play single player games, I am not at all into competitive games and I am running it on OLED TV 4K 120hz or my work monitor (IPS 160Hz, 4k as well). I have a steamdeck so if I can handle streaming through moonlight it's brillant. I do not need that computer to work or do anything but gaming.
Currently I am playing Expedition 33, Diablo IV, Black Myth Wukong, Warhammer Spacemarine 2, Cyberpunk.
- My question:
I think my AM4 plateform is starting to show its limit, and I'd like to play games comfortably in 4k. I am happy with the DLSS results, but not with the stuttering :D
Money is not a big issue as long as this is <1000k€, and I was wondering if that would help to upgrade CPU and RAM. After some research I think a good balance would be:
- CPU: Ryzen 7800x3D (or 9600X?)
- RAM: DDR5 32Go (2x16) I suppose?
For the motherboard and cooler I am open to suggestion, I need something very quiet!
Do you think that makes sense? What would be your recommendations? For information I leave in Europe so Microcenter amazing deal is not possible haha
MrAToTheB_TTV@reddit
Depending on budget but just an upgrade to a 5800x3d will get you a decent chunk of performance.
Rhesous@reddit (OP)
Hi! Sounds like a good idea, I saw that they want to reissue it
MrAToTheB_TTV@reddit
You could also see if you can get some nice 3600mhz ram with good latency timings. It will get you some extra performance too. Upgrade to a 32gb kit rather than added extra to your current set up. And just sell the old cpu and ram kit to recoup some of the cost.
Rhesous@reddit (OP)
Thanks! I checked at the RAM price yesterday for DDR4, and it is crazy (200€ for 32Go is a good offer now...) but interestingly I noticed that back in 2022 when I first set up this PC, I kinda forgot to activate XMP (called DOCP under my bios), so now I have 16Go running at 3200 instead of 2133 which hopefully will be a bit nicer haha
MrAToTheB_TTV@reddit
That will make a difference
Emrefication@reddit
So, just to get this right: You've upgraded your monitor and you're playing games at 4K now, and games were not stuttering before, but are stuttering now?
That's kinda strange. Because, simply increasing the resolution has like almost zero negative impact on CPU-performance. Sure, there are some graphics settings which do increase the load on the CPU - raytracing for example can be very heavy, especially on older CPUs.
At what resolution did you play your games before?
Rhesous@reddit (OP)
Sorry you are right it's a bit unclear. You are correct in the sense I used to have a 3060Ti which was running at 1080p, and I changed my screen for a 4k which I use for work and I decided why not gaming in 4k. So I bought a 5070Ti for Black Friday and decided that upgrading to AM5 would wait a bit, it's not like the prices are going to be crazy over the weekend (hahaha... :'( ).
So now I am playing games in 4k which feels nice and in particular for some old games I use to play is incredible (e.g. Crash Bandicoot 4); but for some other, notably Clair Obscur Expedition 33 or Black Myth Wukong, I noticed that I have some drops in the FPS. I used steam overlay to monitor GPU usage and CPU usage, and I noticed that these drops were not necesseraly during high GPU usage, but for instance in Clair Obscur, the GPU is at 80%load, and my FPS plummet at 50/55fps with some drops, while the CPU is at 70% overall. However, Steam Layout shows also the CPU Max Core usage, and turns out it is often at 100% when it occurs.
FloxaY@reddit
for 4k that cpu should be fine, maybe upgrade to 32gb of ram but other than that just try to figure out what causes the stuttering, that should not happen.
Rhesous@reddit (OP)
Hi, thanks, do you know how I can do? If you have any guide happy to read it
FloxaY@reddit
there is no such guide, you will have to basically go over and check everything; temps, usage, background apps, problematic software (sometimes afterburner itself can cause stutters due to monitoring), carious settings, drivers, etc..
sometimes it's easier to just start with a fresh windows install, or a secondary, clean windows install if you have storage for that.
Radiant_Patience4994@reddit
Don't upgrade wait... At least 2 CPU Generations.
Rhesous@reddit (OP)
Thanks!