should I choose ASRock?

Asrock boards have been known to fry am5 cpu s for a while, it's not every board, it's not like the intel drama from a while back, but plenty of boards are afflicted

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Tokishi7@reddit

Who do we pick then for AM5? I feel like ASRock was always the best AMD board brand by miles

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repocin@reddit

I went with an MSI board because it fit my needs at the time, and I don't have much to complain about. It just kinda works the way it's supposed to.

Brand loyalty is dumb, just buy whatever works best for you at the time of purchase based on what's available.

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If you're brand loyal for some weird religious reason (like a shocking number of people on both sides of the iOS vs. Android schism), absolutely. But if you trust and rely on a specific brand because they have shown themselves to be reliable, that's not dumb at all IMO.

I doubt I'll buy anything but Ruckus APs from now on because I've had such a positive experience with them after struggling with ASUS's overpriced networking gear. This is mostly academic since your central point - that it really doesn't matter if you have an ASUS or MSI board - is correct. I just don't agree with treating it like a universal truth.

This is especially true because when you leave the world of mass-produced Chinese electronics, brands can also matter quite a bit beyond the label. I play drums and almost exclusively play Paiste cymbals because they're the only cymbals that sound "right" to me (with a few exceptions like Zildjian A and Sabian AA). They use a different process from the other brands and it results in a distinct character that I can really only get from them.

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Tokishi7@reddit

Brand loyalty might be dumb, but Asus is infamous for their customer service and my MSI laptop has been the bane of my existence. Pretty much only leaves Gigabyte but they aren’t exactly seen positively either.

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WastingMyLifeToday@reddit

My previous mobo was Asus, and I had the most problems with it.

I have no brand loyalty, I try to look at recent reviews and only buy things that's been on the market for at least 6 months, so there are enough reviews.

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Nosferatu_V@reddit

Go for the 600 chipset in AM5 and you'll be fine. No issues to report on my B650 and the X670 from the dude higher up

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Icy-Distribution4418@reddit

It was a good budget brand, great value, i'd say go for Gigabyte or Msi, avoid asus because they re a shit company costumer service wise (Msi and Gigabyte aren't amazing either but at least they re not Asus)

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WastingMyLifeToday@reddit

In that case, I'm happy my system has been running flawlessly for 2 years, running 24/7.

Either way, any motherboard in EU has 3 years warranty, +1 year from VISA extended warranty (at no cost)

If you pay with VISA/Mastercard, you could have an additional 6 to 24 months of warranty (these credit card warranties can be drastically different depending on where you live, so look into what your own credit card offers)

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Falkenmond79@reddit

Some x870 boards burned CPUs due to shitty voltage regulation. Asrock and amd are blaming each other, so I don’t know if it’s fixed yet. Might be with a newer bios. I would just avoid x870 boards and go with 650 or 670 or 850 instead.

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WinterKujira@reddit

How bout AM4? Ive been eyeing a b550m asrock that sale around $60

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Yethix@reddit

I have this exact board and have been using it for 4+ years. Went through two gens with it (3100 and 5600X3D) with no problems. Installed my own wifi card with no issues there too. Love this board to death, so much connectivity for such a low price

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WinterKujira@reddit

That's what got me really interested in it, it's dumbfounding how budget it is with what it offers, 2 m.2 slots and a m.2 wifi , heck even type c, which is hard to find on budget matx boards, thanks for your input! hopefully I get mine soon

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Falkenmond79@reddit

No worries there. Never heard anything bad and haven’t experienced any problems. AM4 is still interesting, too. What with the 5800x3d possibly being re-released. Though the 5700x is also still a viable CPU. 5600x for a budget.

The B series usually come with some caveats of course, with less PCIe lanes and older PCIe revisions. Which in my book don’t really matter. You won’t see a performance difference and that is what counts. More PCIe lanes also are only interesting if you want to run multiple GPUs and/or more than 2 hard drives.

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WinterKujira@reddit

Thanks! I'm currently running b450m 5700x 3070 which I dont really OC and always undervolt so its just right in my alley, just wanted to expand my m.2 slots then the m.2 wifi key, which the mobo offers, and what I need.

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Fredasa@reddit

Asus as well. The two of them seem to share the phenomenon of killing users' CPUs, and I have yet to hear of any of the victims having their destroyed hardware replaced by the ones who caused it. Asus is also the one who already has a legendarily poor customer service reputation.

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Fred_Wilkins@reddit

Why?

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Nosferatu_V@reddit

They're generalizing because some B850 and X870 boards had some instances where X3D CPUs were fried. Nothing to do with B650 or X670 boards, which are great by the way.

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Caswagna93@reddit

I've had an ASROck b350 Pro 4 since launch. It has a 5700X3D in it currently. Best $85 motherboard I could have bought.

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standin_faith01@reddit

asrock motherboards, compared to other manufacturers, have a higher tendency to fry your cpu if you are on AM5. go to the asrock sub and you'll see a post about a dead AM5 cpu every couple of days.
i recommend msi, me myself just switched from asrock b650 steel legend to msi b850m gaming plus wifi

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theangriestbird@reddit

I would not recommend MSI, they lie in their motherboard manuals.

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NEO71011@reddit

Woah what happened Asrock used to best choice 2 years ago?

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Typical-Split9803@reddit

They didn't fry X3D CPU's in the first week. It takes time, you know...

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Nosferatu_V@reddit

Yes, as it also takes time to research what you're talking about without generalizing or sounding like a parrot. ASRock's problem is on the 800 series chipset, nothing to do with the 600 series, which are great and cheap as well

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Fredasa@reddit

Personally, I'm not going to blame somebody for pinning blame direct on the manufacturer for producing a product with an alarming rate of catastrophic failure. That's not the kind of metric that invites one to rummage around for ways to continue trusting them, when there's plenty of competition that don't have similar problems.

It's worth bearing firmly in mind that ASRock has acknowledged the issue, and yet has not compensated a single victim for the loss of their CPU. That just doesn't inspire bending over backwards to leap to their defense.

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Nosferatu_V@reddit

Not all ASRock motherboards, the 800 series chipset, specifically. If you go for a B650E, for example, you'll have most, if not all, the features of a B850 board and none of the shenanigans

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nvidiot@reddit

Don't go with ASRock. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, the failure % is still very low vs how much sold, but it's still greater than other brands, and if it happens to you, it's going to be extreme annoying.

A friend of mine and I have both built 9800X3D with ASRock X870E Nova (before CPU death was known), and while my PC is still fine, my friend's board fried his 9800X3D. So yeah, chances are definitely real.

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AnOrdinaryChullo@reddit

People look at 9800x3D and its low TDP and mistakenly assume that it doesn't get crazy hot and that stock voltage settings should be left as is when both could not be further from the truth.

On nearly all boards, ASRock very much included, the stock voltages are stupid high and need to be tweaked from the get go especially if you want to run it with EXPO enabled.

Boards, to ensure best compatibility, hike up the voltage ranges across everything with little regard for system longevity.

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ZoteTheMitey@reddit

fuck no

gigabyte or MSI for AM5

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NefariousSINNER@reddit

If you mean AM5 board, I will just assume so, then no. Personally I recommend Gigabyte B850 Aorus Elite Wifi7 board. Great VRM section, looks good, performs great. Dunno about price, but in my country (Poland) I paid about 250 dollars for it. Take under consideration that PC parts here have VAT and extra "european" tax on parts that's like 10-20-30% more than the US.

But if you aren't going to run 9800X3D/9850X3D/9950X3D/7800X3D, then you can safely get the ASRock board.

But also like, what CPU, what GPU, what budget?

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holaqueasevey@reddit (OP)

Right now I have a Ryzen 5 7600X, it was a gift. In like a year or more maybe I’ll upgrade to an X3D, but not anytime soon.For the GPU I’m still deciding between a 5060 Ti or a 9060 XT.Total budget is around 1200 dollars, but most of that money is going to the monitor and the GPU, so I’m trying to save on the motherboard (not much)

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EmbeddedEntropy@reddit

I’ve been running ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi with a 9900X for a year. It’s been fine.

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Nosferatu_V@reddit

Another fellow ASRock B650M owner here. In my case, it's the HDV/M.2, which is a great budget card at $100 (it can also be found for as low as $90 on occasion). Just $15 more to put in a wifi card and I've been using it for 2 years without a single complaint. It even comes with a pre installed shield.

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AcanthocephalaDue715@reddit

I have the 650 and it’s great

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Black_dubbing@reddit

If an asus b850 pro is available to you, that would be a great budget board. But for am5, get anything but an asrock board.

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VersaceUpholstery@reddit

Asrock just has a documented history with killing x3D chips, specifically the 9800x3d. Not all of them do, but enough that even you or I know about it

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WastingMyLifeToday@reddit

I have an AM5 Asrock Steel Legend X670E and I have absolutely zero complaints. Bought it 2 years ago, my PC runs 24/7. CPU is 7950X3D

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aminy23@reddit

not just X3D:
https://videocardz.com/newz/asrock-motherboards-are-now-killing-ryzen-5-9600x-cpus-four-cases-in-two-weeks

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Dlion0@reddit

I use an Asrock A620M-C and have had no issues. Motherboard brands literally don't matter. Just make sure your specific model is on a bios version that doesn't cook your chip.

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KerbalFewl@reddit

First of all, check the Asrock subreddit, that will change your mind about "not many" killing cpu's.

IMO motherboard brands do matter for 2 things: Warranty and software support. I know I have a gigabyte board and my rgb will never work properly because of bad firmware. I have a gigabyte monitor and my Displayport will never work properly because of crappy firmware.

Same for PSU, your power supply may have 10 years warranty, but good luck claiming it from some new chinese company, that may not exist anymore in that time.

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DENNYCR4NE@reddit

I had an AM4 board that had major sleep/hibernation issues and I’ve stayed away from them since

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evilbob2200@reddit

Avoid asrock

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Tatsuya1221@reddit

So Asrock motherboards have a problem with their x8xx line, this seems to vary wildly with different boards, with the one that seems mostly immune to this being the X870E nova, but even it has some reports, just far fewer.

The cause seems to be related to improperly reported voltages and overclocks (not user overclocks, motherboard manufacturer overclocks), this does not seem to effect asrock 6xx boards.

Their gpu's and monitors are fine and don't tend to have issues above the norm, anything else i don't know about and can't comment on.

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Numerous-Loan-8008@reddit

They're probably fine if you make some adjustments to ensure safety

Disable PBO, or if enabled, lower EDC by 10%, TDC by 5%, PPT by 5%

Set a Curve Optimizer of negative 10 (as long as it's stable)

Set max CPU/TJmax temp of 80°C

Limit CPU/SOC voltage (if possible)

Anything you can do to keep it from nuking the CPU

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