If you had to buy one efficient car today to keep for the next 15 years, what would it be and why?
Posted by Mental-Philosophy3@reddit | askcarguys | View on Reddit | 363 comments
I’m trying to get a new car which I never thought actually would be a tough decision to make, my past cars has always been bought for me probably by my dad or brother, now I’m getting mine myself and quite lost in making a decision. Which would be your not luxurious “go to car” if it was you?
Gullible_Key1382@reddit
Right now BMW new i3 EV
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
An EV.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
What kind of EV would be budget friendly something around $12k to $20k
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
I bought the bolt for $14k and id4 for $18k. Both were used
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
And these are cars that could last me 10-15 years in your opinion?
robert32940@reddit
We're at 8 years ~180,000 miles on a 2018 Tesla Model 3 and it's held up amazingly well compared to any ICE vehicle I have ever owned.
Xxachingmeatxx@reddit
Very interesting. I have been doing research regarding a Tesla. I was looking at a model 3/Y and 2023 or newer. Can you tell me about your experience?
robert32940@reddit
If you can charge at home do it.
If your power company has a program where they provide and install the charger it's even better. We pay about $1.15/day for charging from a level 2 on a 240v 40 amp breaker.
Pay attention to tire wear, especially if you like flooring it. The fronts will wear as well from regen braking if you're only rwd. The EV specific tires are a soft compound and will wear before you're used to it.
You will never really worry about the brakes. You learn to use engine braking and feel like you failed if you require the actual brake pedal.
Supercharging is easy. The third party chargers I haven't really used but when I have it's just understanding their different apps.
Road tripping isn't that bad either, especially with full self drive. Stopping every 2-3 hours for 10-15 minutes isn't that big of a deal. We've done 16 hour/1000 miles road trips in a long day.
The infotainment is probably the best I've ever used. Having a giant satellite map of your surroundings spoils you. It's gps is fine, like any others it can get stupid in areas.
Over the air updates have been fun. Getting to see the interface completely change over time is interesting and getting more tech and features with updates is nice.
The car inside has held up well, we don't baby it and I'm bad about washing and detailing but it has wear and tear you'd expect on a car approaching 200k miles.
The paint and clear coat is shit. If you care keep it ceramic coated or get PPF.
It drives good, the low center of gravity because of batteries makes handling easy and the instant torque with no gearing is really fun for acceleration.
I've done 95% of the driving with some type of self drive and trust it to do what it is supposed to do. Cameras and sensors have saved me from hitting a bicyclist in a parking lot at night I could not see at all from my angle.
I've owned driving cars and you feel more like you are running or operating a piece of equipment when driving the Tesla, it makes me miss shifting gears and other things but is nice all around.
robert32940@reddit
I just saw your other post and literally flip flopped you.
I just left a job of three years where my commute was around 46 miles each way, didn't go in every single day, plus I had random driving around to visit sites to where I would have to supercharge some. It was fine. I'm now fully remote again.
The commute miles definitely got boring but for $1.15/day in energy it was not a big deal at all.
calforhelp@reddit
We bought a Mach E Mustang with the intention to drive it for the next 15-20 years. If you’re getting something for that long, get something you actually like to be in, not something that could be a rental econobox.
A Bolt is fine, nothing wrong with it. It’s a great little car. But the Mach E is SO much more car for the money. They were offering 60mo 0% interest and 0% down at the time although I wouldn’t hesitate buying a lightly used one, they can also be had for incredible discounts.
Top choice would be a used BMW i4 or iX, both of which were two of the best electric cars you could buy. Truly wonderful machines to drive and be inside. BMW is also very reliable these days, especially their electric cars.
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
The new battery tech is solid and expected to outlast the vehicle. And yes, I do think they’ll last.
tookangsta@reddit
i doubt it, the battery is going to crap out
morosis1982@reddit
You can doubt all you like, the data is against you.
robert32940@reddit
Please share data from the last 5-10 years and not a report from 20+ years ago.
robert32940@reddit
Spoken like a true ignorant.
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
It’s ok with me if you doubt it.
RecommendationUsed31@reddit
I have a 2019 Egolf - it has almost 90k miles - no degradation yet and guaranteed for 10 years.
Squozen_EU@reddit
Absolute nonsense - stop listening to FUD from the fossil fuel industry. HV batteries outlast the car they’re in.
ayfkm123@reddit
I don’t think any newer cars can be relied on for that anymore, even the staples
sobi-one@reddit
Keep in mind that you have to factor in maintenance costs that disappear with an EV and also the cost difference in electricity vs gas.
vg80@reddit
Chevy Bolt is in that price range. It’s got good range and parts are pretty affordable if repairs are needed.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Ooh cool, I never really ever thought of a Chevy as a choice of car for me but now that you made a suggestion I’d like to look into it, what kind of engine does it have ?
yeah_sure_youbetcha@reddit
I never thought I'd own another Chevy (last one was an Impala nearly 20 years ago, and not a cool one) but we test drove the Chevy Bolt because it was really the only EV that checked all the boxes for us at that time. Told my wife we'd test drive it and if we both didn't love it we'd just buy another Subaru and wait to get our first EV.
I drove it and had my mind made up but didn't give my opinion. My wife got behind the wheel for a mile or two, tried out the regenerative braking, then on an empty stretch of road, punched it. She was grinning ear to ear and I asked what she was thinking. "What's the brightest color available, if I'm buying a little car shaped like a jelly bean it should at least be a fun color."
And that's how we ended up with our Cayenne Orange Chevy Bolt. We like that Chevy so much, that when we decided to add a full size vehicle to our garage, after browsing other brands, we came back to Chevy and have happily been driving a Blazer EV for a couple years now too. Both cars have treated us very well.
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
It’s and electric motor with 200hp equivalent
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
That’s impressive for my budget, you seem very vast on cars, do you have any other opinion ?
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
I have many opinions. I doubt any are good
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I’d like to be the judge
EbagI@reddit
It doesn't have one...
limache@reddit
There are many EVs that can be budget friendly in your 12k to 20k range.
I’ve been using websites like iSeeCars.com and put those parameters in,
Feel free to use other sites.
But you can definitely find EVs in that price. And look up EV incentives in your city and state. And providers
There are 4000 dollar incentives, 7500 and even up to 10-12k (this is in California. Look up your state’s incentives.)
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Right … thank you for giving me this insight I’d check it up now
limache@reddit
You’re welcome. Do some research on EVs. You can use Gemini or other chat AIs to help you with research and understanding EVs etc
You can ask it to look for EV incentives in your area, best used EVs for your price range etc
RecommendationUsed31@reddit
A 2019/ 2020 Egolf Ev with low miles 0 the sel or se version. 125 to 150 miles per charge. The battery is good for 10 years or 100k miles. Im at 80k miles with no noticeable degredation. I bolt is a great idea. An ID4 is im guessing a good car after owning my Egolf for 4 years
Dolphin_Princess@reddit
Used Tesla Model 3
dllemmr2@reddit
Hopefully they get enough software updates in 15 years that they don’t get hacked in mass.
zespak@reddit
What makes you think that a modern EV is more susceptible to this than any other modern car?
dllemmr2@reddit
Self driving cars with massive batteries that are remotely accessible.
SpeedyHAM79@reddit
No EV is going ro last 15 years. Maybe 10 at best.
Tetris_Prime@reddit
Let's be real here, no car sold today will clear 15 years.
DFLDrew@reddit
Yup. There are zero cars MY2011 or older on the road. Facts.
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
He said today, as in newer vehicles are junk.
taxirata@reddit
The thing is, I remember people saying the same thing about cars back then.
Tetris_Prime@reddit
And it's largely true the the majority of the developed world.
The average age of cars are rising, but it falls off significantly after 13ish years.
This will accelerate significantly as cars become increasingly digital and therefore expensive to repair.
dllemmr2@reddit
And therefore less expensive to repair.
Tetris_Prime@reddit
Digitalization of cars is convenient 100% but does not result in less repairs sadly.
dllemmr2@reddit
Do you have a link to the study you’re referencing?
Tetris_Prime@reddit
Sure there are some, and it definitely comes down to what market you are in, and what requirements there are.
I was coming from a Northern European standpoint, and probably forgot a significant chunk of the world.
However new cars aren't like 2012 cars. New cars have tonnes of systems that aren't even lasting 4 years that are super expensive to repair, rendering the car worthless.
Addblue systems, Cambelts in oil baths, vents, valves, filters etc. All very expensive to repair, and all very central systems.
Unless OP lives in a country with no inspections or control systems then sure, daily a 1981 Dodge Ramcharger 🤷♂️
SpeedyHAM79@reddit
I currently drive a 15 year old F150 that runs great- so you are wrong on that. I would bet a 2026 f150 would easily make it 15 years as they are largely the same as 15 years ago, just with some upgrades and reliability issues fixed.
Tetris_Prime@reddit
A Ford F150 would be near impossible to daily in most of the world.
While they are more reliable, gas prices, insurance and lack of space on roads and parking will make it super inconvenient.
In Denmark we have imports of Ram 1500 and Chevy Silverado, and they can't fit in parking lots.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Well in my opinion I think this depends on a lot of things, the condition of the car when bought, the handling of the car by the driver, and regular check up, but getting a car that would clear 15 years would be really difficult this days
Tetris_Prime@reddit
It could be done ofc. But it would be a mix of luck and living where they have more or less no regulation.
I had a 2011 BMW 525d four years ago, and already back then it was pretty high maintenance, and a lot of systems got complete overhauls, the emission taxes on it had become rather high and fuel was a rather significant cost as well.
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
The concern is the battery, but new battery technology is expected to last 20+ years or over 500k miles.
SpeedyHAM79@reddit
I will believe it when I see it.
CauliflowerTop2464@reddit
Sure. Meanwhile those of us with EVs are saving 85% per mile. Have fun paying full price for gasoline.
Dolphin_Princess@reddit
You know nothing about cars.
jruss666@reddit
There are a lot of EVs that are coming off leases this year. The glut should result in lower prices, but looks at gas prices
nkrush@reddit
It would have to be an EV to be the cheapest. Gasoline only gets scarcer, electricity can be made on you roof.
New_Capital_3361@reddit
Camry
seckarr@reddit
People are recommending you a toyota.
Im gonna give you the objectively correct answer. A Lexus.
Its Toyotas luxury brand. You get the exact same components and efficiency and bulletproof compinents as a toyota. But the interior is much quieter and much more comfortable. In 15 years you will get older and have back pains or the such. Toyotas are quite criticised for comfort (or lack of), lexuses are praised for it.
Do not get an EV. If you want to keep it for 15 years, your battery will degrade to shit and beyond. A gas car's tank doesnt shrink with age.
Also, Tesla did a calculation and the 5 year cost of owning a tesla is the same as a camry or lexus ES. So theres no real advantage. Toyota/Lexus hybrids are toe to toe with EVs on consumption if you dont have at home charging.
dykovsky@reddit
I drive an 07 ES350 and a 12 Camry Hybrid and I 100% agree. They're both great cars overall, and I'd easily call the hybrid more reliable, but man, as I get older I really appreciate how easy on my hip and back the Lexus is. I don't find the Camry uncomfortable, and I've driven it cross country a handful of times (even sleeping in the drivers seat at rest stops) but the Lexus is such a nice upgrade.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Hmm… an interesting opinion and an eye opener, Lexus came to mind and I’ve gotten recommendations from people just like I get for Toyota, what kind of Lexus do you think is best fitting for a lady in your own opinion ?
nolared@reddit
My mother and I (woman) both have a Lexus NX hybrid and we love them! It's the smaller version than the RX, so less expensive if budget is a consideration, but still bigger/more "SUV" style (my preference for visibility) than the UX.
derkfisch13@reddit
affordable models - IS200t (not as reliable as the rest as its a turbo’d 4 cylinder), IS250, IS300, IS 350, CT200h (a luxury prius), NX200t (once again, turbo’d baby engine), NX250, NX300, NX350, UX200h (bigger luxury prius), UX250h. if you don’t care how old, the older rx’s are affordable and in general still pretty nice
seckarr@reddit
Depends. Im of the opinion that theres no such thing as a guy car or girl car.
Do you want a tall SUV or like a more classic looking car like a Sedan? If SUV then pretry much a UX250h. If classic sedan the ES300h.
The 'h' at the end stands for hybrid.
Make sure its a hybrid ('h' at the end) because since Lexus is a premium brand they also sell premium gas guzzlers that go "big vroom" for car guys.
Also if you want to drive the car into de ground, get a top trim if possible. Heated and ventilated seats. Also with the premium sound system (Mark Levinson brand, considered one of the best on the market). If it has all three of these and 360 surround cameras you know its a top trim.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Well I’m looking more at the sedan but a good SUV like the Lexus RX 350 is also a choice of mine
GallitoGaming@reddit
The RX350s are really good. If you get later than 2023 (including 2023), get a hybrid because the non hybrids have turbo engines.
2022 and prior have V6 engines and should be more reliable.
DeltaAlphaGulf@reddit
Don't get any of the models with the same engine as the current gen Tundra as they have had ongoing failures.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Hmmm I’d look out for that thank you
APersonOnline7@reddit
I first wanted the es300h but when bend down to get in and struggling to get out. I went rx350h and never been happier. More room. Higher up. And easier to get in and out of. I wanted the Toyota reliability but with just some extra refinement. I plan to keep it ten years and feel good it’ll make it. I get 37mpg with regular gas. I don’t floor it often so the engine noise isn’t an issue. Over all a solid car and would get another one. Maybe a 450h but happy with what I got.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
That’s cool for real, I’ve seen it and I’d say if has a great interior and body design also classy
seckarr@reddit
Then an ES300h is probably your best choice. Bulletproof internals since its basically a Toyota Camry with better seats, better sound insulation, better sound system. It will consume like 10% more gas than a camry since the nicer interior adds a bit of weight, but the difference is very small, and if you need a car thats also good when you're in your 40s and with back pain, its fully worth it.
UniversalConstants@reddit
Or a golfer
Beneficial_Leg4691@reddit
Lexus repairs are much higher. If you buy luxury brand get one 4 years old it will lose value significantly in 4 years
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Ooops another eye opener
Disastrous-Group3390@reddit
Only you can answer that. You should make a list of things you need, things you won’t want at all, and look at the product line of both Toyota and Lexus. Look at fuel economy, size, off road capability and anything else that’ll be relevant. Put all those on your spreadsheet and x off the ones that don’t satisfy it. Get it down to a workable list, then go drive them. Consider renting some of your choices for a weekend. Maybe cross-shop Honda. (Stay away from all Euro stuff, all Korean stuff and Nissan. Avoid American unless you’re looking at FULL SIZE trucks and SUVs.
prn006@reddit
I agree, a Lexus would be my first choice too.
A cousin just bought a Lexus NX Hybrid mid size SUV and it is perfect for her family, with her two young kids, especially for family vacations etc. It’ll probably last her many years and the higher spec versions should be keepers.
Donkey_DNA@reddit
I wish I still had my '05 IS300. That thing was bulletproof!
badhoopty@reddit
those were cool.
MrRogersAE@reddit
Every gas car on the road sees its efficiency decrease over time, resulting in worse fuel economy. While not exactly a “shrinking tank” gas cars range per tank will absolutely reduce over 15 years
seckarr@reddit
Agreed. But its not the same. Efficiency in gas engines does not continually decrease. And when it reaches a boiling point you can service the engine itself for much cheaper than it is to replace a massive EV battery.
Also, for an ICE with reduced range you can carry a canister of gas in the trunk. Also, increased gas stops do not add up like they do in a low range EV on long trips.
mittypyon@reddit
Fake News on the EV.
seckarr@reddit
Wrong
Huge_Consequence_721@reddit
Why wouldn’t you have a home charger , that stat doesn’t make sense. In 15 years battery degrades by 10%. So we’re talking 30 miles. No oil changes make up for all that and more
seckarr@reddit
In 5 years batteries degrade by 15%. Now sit.
Also, most of us live in cities not ouside them, no we live in apartaments
3wolftshirtguy@reddit
I calculated my fuel/energy cost based on my current electric rates and current gas prices and my EV (a super inefficient F150 Lightning) gets what is the dollar equivalent of 70-90 miles per gallon. Plus extremely minimal maintenance. You’re coming out miles ahead… and yeah 15 years is fine for a battery. Plus they are replaceable at a cost that’s probably comparable to an engine.
SkitariusOfMars@reddit
Batteries can last 15 years.
Gas engines like to break down and require replacement, especially modern ones.
seckarr@reddit
Batteries degrade. Engines last much mire than 15 years if carefully chosen and maintained
phasttZ@reddit
Lexus maintanance is undeniably more expensive, because its a Lexus. I agree with every thing else said, but lexus parts are just more because they can be.
KeyNatural4028@reddit
Lexus parts are almost entirely Toyota parts. Many of them are dual-branded, like oil filters for example. The box will have both Toyota and Lexus logos. Yeah going to a Lexus dealer for service will cost a bit more but most Toyota dealers will charge less and do the same job. It’s not a huge difference at the end of the day.
phasttZ@reddit
I was a service advisor. So although your right about common parts like filters and plugs, when it comes to brakes or specific non frequent parts, there is a difference. It could be the exact same part with different mounting points and 3x the cost. Ive seen it countless times.
seckarr@reddit
It depends on the country. In many places theres a very small difference. You can even take your lexus to a toyota dealer
DoubleWrongdoer1540@reddit
I don’t agree about battery degradation for EVS with battery management systems to keep them cool but I 100% agrees that a hybrid is the way to go if you do not have charging at home.
halbalda@reddit
I agree with you, but there is a caveat. The ES seats on the UL trim are not very comfortable and I've started getting lower back pain no matter how I adjust the seat. It is disappointingly stiff and after 52k kms, they still don't feel broken in at all.
FiestaDeHombreMuerto@reddit
https://priuschat.com/threads/shrinking-gas-tank.159721/
seckarr@reddit
Not quite true. You do get worse L/100km over time, but the effect is very limited. Very dependent on maintenance since alot of people are dumbasses when it comes to maintenance. And when it gets too bad, it is a serviceable problem that does not incur replacing something as expensive as an EV battery
DefaultS3ttings@reddit
If I wanted an efficient and reliable car I'd get a 3rd generation Mazda3 (2014-2018). Is it more efficient than a Prius? No. Is the Mazda going to have a costly battery replacement at some point? Also no. My dad's manual 2015 Mazda3 hatchback with the 2.0L has averaged 8.0L/100KM (29.4 MPG) over the course of his ownership. According to the EPA it should get 29 MPG in the city and 39 (6.03L/100KM) on the highway.
NicotineWillis@reddit
8L/100 km is quite high consumption, for a small hatchback, considering the last two 2.0L VW TDi diesels I’ve owned have got about 6.5-7.0L and and much bigger cars. Also super reliable and nice to drive.
DefaultS3ttings@reddit
This is a car used mostly for in city driving and runs on petrol whilst probably weighing more than your diesel Golf or Jetta.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I’m checking out this car now, which of this years of Mazda do you think is most befitting in your own opinion
KIK40@reddit
I bought a used automatic 2016 2.5 years ago and it has been completely unproblematic. 6.8l/100km and just oil changes and tire swaps
DefaultS3ttings@reddit
Avoid 2014 mainly because the first model year(s) of a new generation/model of car have the most problems. The 3rd gen Mazda3 has a few various problems over the years: weak paint in some, a less-than-excellent screen (peeling or something, I don't recall exactly). But nothing catastrophic like the first and second generation Mazda3s which had cheap automatic transmissions that would fail around 250,000 KMs (156,250 miles). My Dad had a manual 2004 Mazda3 that got to 400,000+ KMs before it needed a new clutch. My Uncle has an automatic 2010 Mazda3 that has a dying transmission at around 270,000 KMs (IIRC).
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
This is a great record for that brand I must say
THE_HAKIMIES@reddit
None. New cars nowadays are only made to last 5-10 years. It’s called planned obsolescence
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I think I agree with you, the older cars last longer in terms of engine quality
DFLDrew@reddit
No they don’t. Google “survivorship bias”. New cars are objectively more reliable.
OreoPirate55@reddit
I wouldn’t get a Prius if you live in a snowy area or a hilly area. Its motor is so tiny that it doesn’t accelerate that well and struggled going uphill and in snow.
DFLDrew@reddit
You need less power, not more, in snow and what are you talking about? The electric motors torque up hills with no issue at all
SocialMThrow@reddit
Audi A2.
Shogun243@reddit
Honestly, any tried and true model from Toyota or Honda. Your Civics, Camrys, CRVs, etc. There's a reason they sell like hotcakes and you see the old clangers till going 20 over on the highway.
medic-pepper@reddit
A lot of it is really dependent on your lifestyle and what you want out of a car. Like if you have a short commute or access to at home charging a EV makes sense. If you need long drive efficient I'd say a hybrid like a Prius makes sense. If you actually "like cars" a lightweight low power driver's car makes a lot of sense for a engaging daily.
Prius or Civic hybrid as an efficient "it's just a car." Miata/BR86 if you want a relatively efficient car with spirit.
Zen80888@reddit
Many many vehicles new and old can last 20+ years. All you and everyone needs to do is keep up with the maintenance, not only that, but have the milage on all maintenance. Recommended to change the oil every 10k mi? Make it 5k mi. Change the transmission fluid at 60k mi? Make it 30k mi. Vehicles largely, especially newer vehicles have this stereotype that they're not meant to last, but people just don't do the maintenance on them. Honda and Toyota have awesome reputations because there's some black magic they're using that allows the engines to continue running with 0 maintenance.
NecessaryEmployer488@reddit
Honda Accord Touring Hybird. Everyone says Prius. It is just too small for me to fit into it. I would get a hybrid vehicle of some type.
knight9665@reddit
subaru impreza or crosstrek
toyota carolla or camry rav4
honda civic or accord crv
these have been the king of reliability for a long time now.
are there other options? absolutely.
Unable_Answer_179@reddit
If you can find one for a decent price the Honda Fit is a great choice. They are cheap to operate, have the well established Honda reliability and an astonishing amount of room for a small car. There is a subgroup here dedicated to them and they're good about answering questions.
cvb09876@reddit
Civic
Nedstarkclash@reddit
Camry XLE.
whozwat@reddit
Toyota sienna hybrid would be my existing car selection. I wish Stellantis RAM would get their shit together and qualify a plug-in hybrid ProMaster for the US market.
hennytime@reddit
Ionic 5 N
Efficient, reliable and fun. With good tires and low maintenance costs its a no brainer.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Oooh I gotta check this out
hennytime@reddit
650hp and a .98 skidpad? Yes
Range is shitty at around 200 miles or so but thats the major tradeoff
andresAtMudra@reddit
Model 3
Last_Still_3709@reddit
Prius prime.
SlimHuncho@reddit
Lexus UX300H - my wife and I were looking for a prius, but toyota markups nowadays brings them up to lexus pricing. We love our lexus. The hatchback is amazing as well.
Dry-Chemical-9170@reddit
Probably any Toyota hybrid…they’re known to go 500k+ miles no problem
NotConnorWrong@reddit
Volkswagen TDI
Anussauce@reddit
Prius
TheDude-Esquire@reddit
Any Toyota hybrid really. They’ve all proven to have great longevity at a decent price.
phasttZ@reddit
Yeah i got the last year of last generation Rav4. Its essentially a lifted prius that averages 38mpg and should go 300k miles. Still have a weekend car so the Rav does everything else.
kynelly360@reddit
Efficiency + Cargo space is so fucking underrated…. How much was that RAV4 anyway ?
phasttZ@reddit
40k out the door but it was a blue xse with 10 miles
series-hybrid@reddit
https://www.electricbike.com/the-curious-case-of-the-600000-mile-hybrid-electric-taxi/
teamgreenzx9r@reddit
My wife bought a 2008 and finally did it in midway through 2025. We bought a 2025 Prius to replace it. My wife is a terrible driver and has zero mechanical empathy. I work in automotive, I send my designs through all the testing, and I swear to you my wife is harder on a car than any designer can imagine. The fact a car, any car, survived her for 17 YEARS is perhaps the most impressive thing I’ve seen a car do.
The new Prius is quite a bit different than the old. There are things I like about them both. Again, it’s impressive to me that they’ve changed with the times in such appealing ways. With fuel prices up I’m the primary Prius driver (Godspeed Ridgeline) and the only negative I can find is that it feels like I’m a little tall for the driver environment at 6’. That’s literally my harshest criticism.
skjeflo@reddit
In-laws bought a '06 new, handed it down to my wife after ten years and 34,000 miles. Our daughter is currently running it as a daily with 160,000 on the clock, while waiting for me to figure out what's up with her Rav4.
Beyond maintenance items, the Prius has needed a new transmission (while still under warranty), and a new traction battery (about 5 years ago). Still ticks off 45-50 mpg every tank.
Great cars if you keep up with basic maintenance.
twelfthfantasy@reddit
100%
Straight_Taste6989@reddit
why? I feel like the camry is better in many ways at a similar price
eldredo_M@reddit
I feel that the liftback is a more practical package than a sedan.
woodenmetalman@reddit
Shocking how much space there is in a Prius.
PawPawsLilStinker@reddit
Under 30k for the Camry hybrid is a very nice deal. I just wish it was a hatch/wagon
gonyere@reddit
I miss my prius'. They were fantastic family cars.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Okay nice, do you have a specification so I can make person findings on it to see?
idiot2029@reddit
What?
TheMightyKunkel@reddit
The current Prius looks great. It is available with AWD, and or in a Plug in version (50 miles electric range?)
Go to a dealer and check it out.
sault18@reddit
It's 39-44 miles of electric only range as rated by the EPA.
Calabris@reddit
I bought a prius in 2005 brand new. It was reliable for 20 years.
Jwrbloom@reddit
I'm picking up a 2022 hybrid Hyundai Tucson tomorrow.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
How’s the efficiency like in terms of fuel consumption and battery strength
Jwrbloom@reddit
Not sure yet. Picking it up tomorrow. Advertised 38MPG. I test drove one, a full tank showed 596 miles of range. That number is typically understated. In a 16 gallon tank, that would be 37.25 MPG.
Some-Incident4030@reddit
Audi A6 Avant Allroad 3.0TDi or Toyota Landcruiser 200 V8 TD.😁
PlanetExcellent@reddit
RAV4 Hybrid. We rented one and it was outstanding. 50mpg with the air on.
zespak@reddit
Mazda MX5 or EV. No in between for me.
Scared_Caramel3839@reddit
My current car, 2023 Honda civic sport 6mt
It-is-always-Steve@reddit
If I’m buying a new car today it would be a Civic or Accord.
AllGoodPunsAreTAKEN@reddit
We've got a 2024 Honda Accord and a 2023 Charger SXT. I personally would recommend the Charger, but with the current gas prices, you likely want something with better mpg.
That's where the Accord comes in. It has all of the bells and whistles without being ridiculous on the price tag, and cost to maintain is among the best between competing brands.
Lots of good options in here overall, good luck on your selection!
tdrizzy_@reddit
Toyota or Honda, Lexus or Acura if you’ve got it like that. Exact model depends on what your needs are (sedan, SUV, third row seats, etc.)
ltdan84@reddit
After thinking about driving the same car for 15 years for a bit, I’m going to call my therapist and see if they have any openings today.
MoreFunThanTV@reddit
Any plug-in hybrid electric. Basically free to operate for short trips and unlimited range thanks to gas ability. Maintenance is minimal and MUCH more affordable than gas only. Second choice is non plug in hybrid.
Human_Grass@reddit
ND MX-5 1.5L
doc_55lk@reddit
If you need space though this might not be the best idea lol
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Didn’t know this car, just went to check it out and it seems to be a good choice 👍
jeepsies@reddit
Test drive it
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I’d do that and update you with my result
SirDeniz@reddit
Always the answer
General-Gift5653@reddit
RAV4 by turf for me
Devin_Brent@reddit
Camry or RAV4 woodland hybrid or PHEV. Although I don't care about efficiency and need something more rugged and decided to go with RAM 1500 RHO🤣
gmehodler42069741LFG@reddit
Any toyota hybrid.
Bulocoo@reddit
Totally depends on your persona, intended use and attitude about cars.
I have 3 cars. One car needs to be flexible. When I had 1 car it was an SUV. I've never bought into 100% EV yet but I am ready for a hybrid SUV.
I have a subcompact hatchback, Hondas Fit. Daily driver and 40mpg. It's getting up there at 200k miles but I plan to keep until 300 or the wheels fall off.
My main reliable is a 2019 Ram 1500 quad cab. I have 5 acres so the truck is in constant use.
I have a 1968 MGB convertible. Mostly restored and my fun wekender.
I also have a street bike and a dirt bike.
So what have you had and what is your need and desire?
swangdb@reddit
Either a Prius or a Corolla Cross Hybrid. I might change my mind tomorrow.
demdareting@reddit
I have owned a 1991 Acura Integra from New and sold it 17 years later because I needed a 4 door. I have owned my 2009 Honda Civic Si Sedan since new. Both cars are rock solid. I will definitely go back to Honda for a 3rd time when my current ride is no longer safe or economical to maintain.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
So you’re recommending a Honda civic ?
demdareting@reddit
Any Honda. The Civic has been great, so was the Integra. We are looking into the HRV now. Whatever you buy test drive it at least 3 times in different conditions to make sure it is the right fit for you. We drove that Civic 4 times before we bought it. Let us know what you choose.
AyeYoMobb@reddit
2010-15 Honda accord
Big-Penalty-6897@reddit
1975–1979 Honda Civic CVCC. 40+ MPG on the highway. Runs forever. Easy to repair. No catalytic converter. Finding one that hasn't rusted to dust these days would be the challenge. IDK about parts availability either.
Nodirectionn@reddit
Bought a new Mazda3 in 2017, and it’s been good so far. just routine maintenance with no issues. But with gas prices being so high these days, probably go for theToyota Prius or Civic hybrid would be better since they are hybrid.
runsanditspaidfor@reddit
Loaded new RAV4
mrmackeydroveamazda3@reddit
I bought a mazda 3 for that exact reason no hybrid system no cvt no turbo and it isnt slow as a corolla i still have my 07 civic i like to work on my own cars. Civic still going almost 300k miles. Thats what i need in my next car and the mazda 3 seems to fit the bill
RedRaven0228@reddit
Do not get a dodge caliber... they are HORRIBLE. Get a Honda, Toyota or a Volkswagen. But honestly any car is a great car as long as you know how to care for it
HighGardenCultivatio@reddit
Chevy Silverado EV (max range)
nonamethxagain@reddit
Toyota Corolla
ottrocity@reddit
Does 40ish mpg count as efficient?
I'm 10 years into a Fiesta ST and have no plans of getting rid of it yet.
runerx@reddit
Honda Civic hatch.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Always the answer
SorryContribution675@reddit
Honda HRV..last of the reliable MPI engines where you don't have to worry about carbon buildup as on the GDI engines. We have a 2025 and 2026 and free of worries.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I was waiting for this reply
ReasonableRevenue218@reddit
Toyota Corolla
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Always the answer
PolybiusChampion@reddit
Camry
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Always the answer
Apprehensive_Hat4298@reddit
A Mazda 3 built in Japan. Not as pricey as a Toyota, but still spectacular reliability.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Always the answer
Potential-Dog1551@reddit
Corolla hybrid with awd, blends in but will last for 300k
Potatobobthecat@reddit
Civic Hybrid
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Already on my to go list civic hybrid ,Lexus RX hybrid, Camry, Corolla, due to popular opinion
kkicinski@reddit
Tesla Model 3 or Model Y
badluser@reddit
BMW 550e
justbecause2112@reddit
Toyota Prius
W_Silver2356@reddit
Things like this will be very subjective but with that being said, I am a big fan of the Mazda brand in general. They are built well, have solid reliability, and as far as style goes, these are some of the best looking cars on the road. The process of choosing between models and options is very straightforward as opposed to other brands that combine mixing-and-matching with getting nickel and dimed. Since you are new to car shopping, this is a plus for you. These cars have long been praised for their great driving dynamics. Since you are buying a car, it makes sense to buy one that's fun to drive. Mazda also uses proven engineering in their cars. This makes them durable and reliable for the long term along with being relatively easy to work on. Any vehicle that is being kept for 15 years will be out of warranty long before then. That means paying for out of warranty repairs is inevitable. Going with tried and true builds helps keep those expenses in check. Brands that lean too far into the latest cutting edge engineering tend to slice into your wallet when something breaks. As far as which Mazda I would go for, there is a lot to be said for all their models. I have never seen a bad review of a Mazda. I recommend giving them a look.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
You seem very knowledgeable about cars
W_Silver2356@reddit
Thanks. Hope the perspective I shared was helpful. Good luck with your car shopping.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Ooh yes, it drove my insight and made me see things I was probably oblivious to
cabernettherapy@reddit
I am likely about to buy my first Mazda. Debating the 50 and the 5. I like the look of the 50 more but the 5 has an interior more to my liking. The gas mileage and reliability have really drawn me in!
W_Silver2356@reddit
There isn't much of a way to go wrong whichever one you chose.
Ribeye_steak_1987@reddit
Toyota or Honda. Can’t go wrong with either.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
For sure, a thousand comments on here whose opinion is either the Honda civic or corolla
speeding2nowhere@reddit
Probly a manual Mazda Miata or a manual Toyota GR86.
You want a manual transmission or at least a normal torque converter automatic. No CVTs, no DCTs for long term reliability. Manuals are the most reliable tho by far, not many cars have them tho.
You want a naturally aspirated engine, no turbos, and definitely no hybrids. Simple, keep it simple.
Stay away from as many of the driver aids as possible (blind spot monitoring, auto braking, etc). Those are only going to be problematic longer term.
Less is more when you want long term reliability.
MathematicianIcy3430@reddit
I haven't owned one but a Lexus ES300, hybrid or not. My current Accord I like but that thing sits so low.
DoubleWrongdoer1540@reddit
Prius, Camry or Corolla. Probably 2wd over awd to keep as simple as possible. If in a snowy area get dedicated snow tires. Pick which one you like best. It’d be Prius for me. I love the way they look.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I just saw the 2025 Prius, it’s a killer
No_Topic5591@reddit
Unless you're doing moon miles, efficiency is overated. By far the biggest cost is depreciation. And then there's tax, insurance, maintenance and repairs when something breaks. Fuel represents a relatively small proportion of the overall cost of driving.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Hmmm… what if my day to day movements are a lot ?
KeyAd3363@reddit
Lexus RX hybrid
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Already on my to go list already, Lexus RX hybrid, Camry, Corolla
AdMaleficent2769@reddit
Land Cruiser
jondes99@reddit
Civic Si.
AccomplishedWind2268@reddit
Mazda3
jeepsies@reddit
Corolla hybrid
Jenshark86@reddit
Toyota Yaris but it’s not made any longer so a Corolla
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Toyota Corolla and also a Camry are my great considerations here
RayLikeSunshine@reddit
Maverick. I have one. Like a Prius with a bed.
Best_Relief8647@reddit
Kia Niro EX hybrid..
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Why? What’s the specifications that’s makes this car a choice ?
Best_Relief8647@reddit
I don't do your Internet research for you. You asked for efficient vehicles, which I take as affordable and easy on fuel. I have you the one I purchased a year ago, which I am overly satisfied with. Hit up Google and read some expert reviews.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I would do that for sure and i hope you get to see the car i bought eventually when I post it on here
Best_Relief8647@reddit
Sounds great!
eyeteadude@reddit
You don't mention what kind of efficiency. I assume you mean dist/volume of fuel, but to take efficiency in another direction, I would get a 2019 Mercedes-Benz Sprinter (without SCR). It's efficient to carry 5 people plus mountain bikes and 3 weeks of camping gear inside the vehicle. No SCR means the most common and often expensive engine failure point is omitted. It will also have lower long term and simpler maintenance costs. Can be used for moderate towing. Is good for moving most things. TLDR is efficient for life rather than only focused on fuel consumption.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Hmmm…. This is another dimension I should think in
tbnbrks@reddit
Smart choice would be a Toyota hybrid, but I’m keeping my Jetta, thank you very much.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I like your opinion, Toyota seems to fit my specifications properly
punch_yo_buns@reddit
CX-5
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Mazda?
woodenmetalman@reddit
An EV. Like literally any one that meets your needs
If you’re stuck in an ICE mentality, a Prius.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Well …
Sup3rhybrid@reddit
If you want a sedan.. Lexus es hybrid or Avalon hybrid for budget version. Need space, get a Sienna hybrid.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
In my opinion sienna gives a big family kind of vibez, while the rx gives comfort and class
EfficiencyOpening420@reddit
Ford Maverick hybrid.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
A good opinion, a lot has suggested this vehicle but I would like to know more about the specifics
yeah_sure_youbetcha@reddit
We're 5 years in on our Chevy Bolt. We'll likely still own it one way or another at 10 years (either still driving it or passing it to one of our kids,) but 15 might be stretching it. It's quick and surprisingly fun to drive, though it could definitely benefit from some stickier tires once the OEM all seasons wear out, we do run winter wheels when the snow flies. It's small and easy to squeeze into small parking spaces in the city, but is somehow bigger on the inside than it looks like it should be. We literally fit a rear facing child seat in back recently without having to move the front seat forward, something we couldn't do with the full size vehicles we owned when our kids were little.
My electricity at home costs $0.11/kWh and we average 3.5 mi/kWh, better in the summer, worse in the winter. It costs right around 3¢ per mile in "fuel" to drive. Meanwhile with today's $3.49 fuel costs in my area, a 30mpg car will cost around 12¢ per mile. It doesn't take long for the savings to add up.
Willing-Code1798@reddit
Based on experience of having a Subaru forester since 2012, I cannot say a bad word about it. Literally the best and most reliable car I’ve ever owned
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Will have this noted
SorrySite4358@reddit
Maverick hybrid. Great mileage and bullet proof mechanics.
East_Yellow8389@reddit
Prius. I have sold a few of them. And even put them thru torture tests and they are like tanks depending on the year. Drove one thru the woods and just could not kill it. Even ran it over with off-road buggies. Got it full airborne.
SkitariusOfMars@reddit
Tesla model 3. The drivetrain and chassis are solid, and I can deal with the self-recycling interior.
dextercho83@reddit
Toyota Prius
Smashego@reddit
This is easy. Get the Toyota Corolla in gas only trim. Dirt cheap, no hybrid nonsense that can break down on you. No added maintenance or battery replacement. Dirt cheap insurance premium. 40mpg on the freeway.
If you buy any hybrid you will have added maintenance costs that offset the gas savings. If you buy any EV you’ll have crazy high insurance that again, offset the gas savings.
If you want cheap, frugal and reliable. Get a gas only Corolla. You can spend more on upgrades if you really want like lane assist, variable cruise etc…..
But if your just looking for best bang for buck to economize, that’s it. Anyone saying anything else is leading you in the wrong direction.
phasttZ@reddit
Honestly toyota hybrid is proven now. 15 years 300k on the original battery is common. The hybrid provides torque so the engine doesnt have to work nearly as hard so the hybrids are more quiet. Also lot of those options come standard on most hybrid trims.
Boring_Education5486@reddit
Hybrids are old tech at this point they’ve been refined as much as can be especially Honda and Toyota. Stop fear mongering.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
lol 😂very nice analysis with a straight personality, makes sense for me to see those breakdown, I’d look at this in a min
DeltaAlphaGulf@reddit
Probably a Ford Maverick hybrid or a Prius or maybe a Tesla if my circumstances were suitable for it.
aznkid24@reddit
Lexus is the right answer and more specifically Lexus GX! The 2022 in nori green is probably my dream car right now
Not_Sure__Camacho@reddit
An electric vehicle with a heat pump would be my pick. The heat pump may not be necessary if you live in a decent climate, and some electric vehicles come with a 10 year battery warranty.
3rdgenerX@reddit
Totally restored 97 Landcruiser triple locked
Red7StandingBy24@reddit
Honda civic hybrid (2026). I’m getting 52 MPG, it’s a proven drive train Honda has been using for awhile, the car has more pep then a lot of other Toyota offerings. It handles great and you can get a hatch or sedan
Radiant-Video7257@reddit
Anything Mazda is pretty good. Nicer interior than the Toyota's with the same reliability.
Plato2026@reddit
Tesla model 3. Most advanced safety, most advanced and reliable battery technology, most advanced technology, long warranty. Hybrids like the Prius are also great, but Toyota has been running into quality control issues as of late, and when there's an issue with a hybrid, it's a much more complex setup to work on. Many more potential issues with the Prius than there is with a Tesla imho.
Brilliant-Onion2129@reddit
Toyota Corolla no explanation necessary!
dj_boy-Wonder@reddit
Corolla hybrid, if you have a family then Camry hybrid. The latter is used as the default taxi in AU and while I’m not one to use many cabs, this week I have been and all the Camrys with 300K+ on them still look pretty darn good honestly
Mindless_Job3481@reddit
Toyota hybrid.
DarkSideEdgeo@reddit
New: MAZDA3. Used but newer. MAZDA3. Used but older AND cheap, 2010ish Ford focus before the Ecoboost engines.
UndercoverHardwarema@reddit
Cheap hack: if you're gonna go with the Rav 4, which would be my vote, the Mazda CX50 is a rebranded Rav 4 without the resale value; which sucks if you buy new, but it's kinda cool if you're shopping used.
Ok-Duty-5269@reddit
The cx50 is hardly a rebranded rav4
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
So I should go for the rav 4 of the Mazda CX50?
cabernettherapy@reddit
I think it is still a national deal but Mazda has been running 0%-.9% financing on the new 50 as well. Im between it and a cx-5. Both great options. I have never had a Mazda and am looking for reliability, longevity, and good gas mileage. The reviews are great and price is also really good too. Many trim levels to choose from to figure out the best price and option combo you want.
UndercoverHardwarema@reddit
Depends if you're buying new or used, and if resale is important to you. If used, go with the m Mazda
Hopeful-Mirror1664@reddit
RAV4 hybrid. Oh wait, I already own one
Silly_Hurry_2795@reddit
Toyota or Volvo Petrol preferably no turbo
But I'd buy an old diesel myself (having just bought my wife a brand new xc40 hybrid thing)
Ok_Meat_5767@reddit
In today's value I don't know. The car market feels like making more and more useless cars (eu regulations dosent help at all they are built to remove fuel cars. In older models. Audi, Volvo or Mercedes for sure
Ahaayoub@reddit
Buy the car with the least amount of technology
AskMeaboutMyCorolla@reddit
Camry/Accord hybrids
mipko@reddit
Skoda superb combi 4x4 2.0 TDI.
CareMay1313@reddit
Toyota or Honda. We've had customers put close to 400k miles on them with regular maintenance.
No-Sherbert-9589@reddit
I would probably get a new RAV 4 Plug in hybrid or a Lexus NX plug in hybrid. Get it dealer serviced for the best warranty
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Oooh nice, great opinion I’d check it out
UnlikelyValuable265@reddit
That's easy. Hybrid Lexus.
dojuebelonginagangg@reddit
Used Chevy Bolt or used Tesla Model 3. Both fit your budget used. Both will easily last 15 years.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Yes both brads are epic in terms of durability
idiot2029@reddit
Camry
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
What’s your main reason for this suggestion ?
idiot2029@reddit
Because….
TOYOTA
RealPin7537@reddit
Toyota Corolla
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
A nice choice, fits into this category pretty well and might be my final decision eventually
AlyLaMariposa2@reddit
Financed a toyota corolla hybrid 2024 for the same reason. Affordable! Pumping gas is chefs kiss cheap and long lasting ( chevron ). I drive a lot! So definitely worth every penny and every monthly payment lol.
LuckyMost@reddit
Kia EV6 / Hyundai Ioniq 6 / Mercedes CLA (the new one) / Audi E-Tron GT (if you want sporty).
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Among this which is the best based on your opinion.
SmartGreasemonkey@reddit
Buy a basic Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. My daughter's 2019 Civic gets 39mpg commuting to and from work. It will go 350k easily.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Honda civic is a great car my sister used at some point without any issues till she sold it b
YeahIGotNuthin@reddit
If I were smart, I’d sell all my old bullshit and just buy a new Miata. 34 mpg highway is plenty.
I had a 91 Miata from new through the early twenty teens, put 300,000+ miles on it.
My wife and I don’t take either of our older convertibles (different NA Miata, e46 BMW) on long trips anymore, we have a PHEV 3-series that is great for local errands and long trips. They both need a radio and a convertible top, they are both terrific but selling them both would get me 1/3 of the way to a new Miata.
Given the fact that I bought a 91 Miata new and the fact that Japanese cars last as long as they do, it’s not hard to pencil out that I probably won’t live long enough to wear it out. Be fun to spend a few years trying.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
All these would be for someone who hag all these cars in the first place lol 😂
YeahIGotNuthin@reddit
In your case, I would pick “new Miata” for a first new reliable car. Just like I did 35 years ago
sharkeymcsharkface@reddit
Toyota Sienna. So practical
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I would have considered the sienna if I had a big family
Ok-Huckleberry1970@reddit
Honda, toyota or hyundai. While hyundai had had its issues i feel its a good economic car that gets the job done
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Oooh yes I like especially the simple yet classy interior of the Hyundai
Ok-Huckleberry1970@reddit
I have a 2013 elantra which i have only done an alternator and suspension. Has 190k miles. I have a veloster as well with 140k miles. The veloster did need some easy engine work just a head job but im a mechanic so that was cheap for me. Lol maybe i just baby my cars too much. Have an 08 escalade also and all i have done is rear shocks and fuel pump 180k miles also
fitthatfitting@reddit
Honda Jazz
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Why? What’s your reason for this opinion
fitthatfitting@reddit
I had the money for a sports car but I opt in for stick shift Honda Jazz and pocket my 40k for more financial freedom. I came from luxury Acura so basically it was a huge downgrade. But it turns out that the Honda Jazz is the best car so far. It drives and sounds wonderfully and the bulletproof engine will last 500k miles with regular 5k oil change. The magic seats allow you to sleep, camp, or pack it. The wide interior and giant windows allow no blind spots while giving you the view of the world. It takes regular gas and 5.5k RPM VTEC makes the engine sips gas. The small exterior footprint allows you to park anywhere. Insurance should only be liability. The car is cheap enough to buy again from the money you save from full coverage.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Hmm …. This makes me see this in another insightful angle
ayfkm123@reddit
Efficient? An ev
Superb_Yam_2168@reddit
Lexus CT200h or a Lexus ES300h, but pretty much any hybird made by toyota
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Sweet suggestions…. My mind didn’t even go there before
Mike312@reddit
Define efficient, because I know people who daily 14mpg pickups, 55mpg Prii, and EVs.
But in all cases it would probably be a BMW i3.
nozzerella@reddit
Camry Hybrid
JagR286211@reddit
I would go for a used Land Cruiser, not the 250. Relatable, go anywhere, comfortable, space, tow, etc.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I think this actually makes sense but why not the 250 exactly
potato_potahhhtoe@reddit
15 years is a stretch but a Honda civic. Next up is yota corolla.15 years is a brand new car from now though and I'd probably choose from brands at this point lol. It's just one of the best selling though really lol. I have a minivan 2024 Toyota sienna...granted I don't drive that car on average like other people (I don't even got 10k miles on it owning it 2 years). Good car though. I've also owned ilder Hondas as well and have a bias with them. I love these two brands. Take care if your car and you'll get taken of too. I've read or heard of people who have the same cars but it doesn't last (probably because they don't maintenance it). But irl, my sienna will last me 15 years maybe...lol. again, that's a stretch but my parents and other people I know still have their same vehicles from 10 years ago, running just fine with nearly 200k+ miles. If you don't have anyone who owns these cars, just drive or walk down the street and see what common cars you see and take that as a deductible.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
You and I are thinking mainly in the same direction, you literally wrote what I had in mind
MightOk5012@reddit
You know about the Toyota Aygo X? It beats out all the hybrid in NA even the the Prius
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
What’s the specifications that’s makes it better ?
MightOk5012@reddit
Average drivers getting average over 80 mpg
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
That’s really cool, I would consider it then if that’s it
thePunisher1220@reddit
If I'm getting an "efficient" car, probably a hybrid accord. Those things get like 50mpgs combined. The tech in them sucks tho. Maybe a Prius prime.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
A hybrid accord is what a friend uses, and she seems very comfortable with it
VW-MB-AMC@reddit
Toyota Yaris.
Far-Telephone-7432@reddit
Suzuki Swift with a manual. The fuel economy is out of this world!
salchichasconpapas@reddit
A Tacoma bc the one I bought 15 years ago is still as reliable as when new
RecommendationUsed31@reddit
For around town I wish they still made the Egolf. I have a 2019 with 90k miles. Its an electric car and I have had to buy new tires and just yesterday had to buy headlights. It gets realistically 150 miles per charge. A chevy Bolt, or Volt, a prius.
Jimothius@reddit
If efficiency is a major component and it will be primarily a commuter/runabout then definitely the new Prius. They doubled the power and made it look great.
If you want it to be more capable and can take a slight hit on economy, then absolutely the CR-V Hybrid. AWD and a ton of interior space but still killer mileage.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Prius and the Honda AWD is now a major opinion here I’m considering their efficiency is up there
Jimothius@reddit
The CR-V also doesn’t have a transmission, which is great for durability.
MochiSauce101@reddit
Toyota Corolla , Prius or Rav 4
Mazda 3 , CX 30-50-5
bigrodthebeast@reddit
Honestly a VW Jetta diesel. Second would be a Toyota Camry. I had an old Camry that had over 600k miles... she leaked a bit of oil, but never had do anything major (original motor and transmission).
maybach320@reddit
Hybrid RAV4 gets my vote
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Yes it’s a very compact and nice car, Toyota engine gives it the advantage
PeoniesNLilacs@reddit
Toyota Corolla
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
A good choice and recommended by everyone, it’s in good consideration
Schmohawk62@reddit
Corolla hybrid
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Taken this into consideration, a lot of people have recommended it so it’s going to be a go to car for me
Thick-West-4047@reddit
2021 Subaru STI Limited.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Didn’t think of this before but I’m checking it out now.
e90t@reddit
That won’t be alive in 15 yrs
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Why do you say so ?
Sh00tTheCore@reddit
STI is definitely not efficient.
Playful_Elk3862@reddit
I don't really know what to choose... But if I could order a new Volkswagen ID.Polo it might be that one... Have they opened their ordering books yet? 🤔
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Are you also looking to buy a car like me ?
stupidfock@reddit
Camry hybrid
Much-Resolution-5476@reddit
Sienna minivan.. useful and practical on so many fronts.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Yes actually, also a very suitable family car I’d agree
jfcat200@reddit
Pretty much any EV.
F3Pro@reddit
2021 era prius prime
Justaviewer10@reddit
Hybrid Toyota Camry or Corolla. There’s a reason every taxi ever uses Camrys
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Hmmm that makes a good point now that you said that
slashfivetoaster@reddit
Toyota
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
What kind of Toyota would be best in you own opinion
RegularOk1820@reddit
probably a corolla and call it a day
KostyaFedot@reddit
Toyota offers 10 years warranty where I'm.
EbagI@reddit
Tesla model 3
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Ooh, whenever I hear Tesla, my mind goes directly to “expensive” what’s the price range for this model 3
EbagI@reddit
Used with like 80k miles? Under 20k
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Well…. If I’m paying I intend to get great value for my money, what would be your price estimation for an EV
EbagI@reddit
Like 18-20k with 50-100k miles.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Right then… I’d look into it
Tetris_Prime@reddit
Model 3s are very cheap cars to maintain and due to the sheer amount of them, used parts will je available for many years.
It's probably your best bet of a car lasting 15 years if you can repair it yourself.
Glittering_Low_2420@reddit
Following
lilxbites@reddit
Corolla hatch or some sort of Toyota hybrid. If you want to go ev I really think Tesla is the way to go. Sometimes they have crazy lease deals that could be worth checking out too
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Toyota Corolla is an option and I’m definitely gonna check that out, anytime I hear Tesla my mind goes straight into “expensive” I’d like to know Tesla brands that are very affordable.
peachgarden_@reddit
FWIW, I have a 2016 Scion iM (which is essentially a Corolla hatchback) and in the past ten years, the only money I’ve had to spend on it is rotors/brake pads/tires/regular maintenance. Not a single mechanical problem. Obvs, YMMV, but overall, happy with it as reliable transportation.
lilxbites@reddit
The thing with EVs that is nice is that you don’t have to do very much maintenance so that keeps costs down, and if you can home charge they’re super cheap to run. Insurance will probably be a little bit higher though.
I always say they’re the best cars if you don’t leave town often. If you have to do longer drives frequently they can be a hassle to charge and plan your routes. As for other brands, you could check out Hyundai’s ioniq ev, and another regular car that you might like is a Mazda 3
Far_Negotiation8009@reddit
Plug in Rav 4
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I’ve seen the latest models of Rav 4 and they are mouth watering with good deals, I might just add it to my consideration
Far_Negotiation8009@reddit
I’m unsure there will be deals on the new redesign plug in but honestly it’s a great all rounder. My wife has a 24 Prous Rome and we love it. Honestly maybe fill 4-5 times a year.
JournalistLopsided89@reddit
toyota camry, hybrid pref but petrol ok.
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
I’ve seen this one too and a recommendation from a friend, I like it’s efficiency and I might just settle for it
EbagI@reddit
Like 18-20k with 50-100k miles.
Salavar1@reddit
Honda CRV
Mental-Philosophy3@reddit (OP)
Good choice I’d say, used it when I was much younger though I’d like to diversify but if it’s a good deal I don’t mind