Need to upgrade my system, need some assistance
Posted by ReesesPses@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 19 comments
Current specs:
CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
GPU: EVGA Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080 8gb
MOBO: ASUS Prime B350-Plus
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 DRAM 3000MHz
POWER SUPPLY: CORSAIR RMx Series RM650x 80 PLUS GOLD
STORAGE: 1TB SATA SSD, 1TB WD 7200rpm HDD
OS: Windows 10 Home
MAIN MONITOR: ACER GN276HL (1920x1080, 144hz)
SECOND MONITOR: AOC I2267FW (1920x1080, 60hz)
-
I'm thinking about starting with upgrading my CPU, simply because I believe upgrading anything else first will cause the CPU to be a bottleneck (am I correct in thinking this?). With that said, upgrading my CPU means I'll definitely need to upgrade the mobo along with it. I'm not sure if anything else will definitely need it after that though. I eventually want to upgrade my GPU too but that will likely be a bit more expensive. The main drawback of my current one is honestly the 8gb of vram, as it does a surprisingly good job at playing modern games otherwise (assuming I don't attempt to use any raytracing or modern effects).
-
Do my thoughts here seem like the right way of thinking considering my build? If so, what are some recommendations for parts that aren't unreasonably expensive and will be a noticeable upgrade for my system's longevity and performance?
Remote-Button-1344@reddit
How much money do u want to spend in the upgrades? For the cpu you can get a 5 5500 or 5 5600x something like that, for the motherboard a b550 asus prime wifi
ReesesPses@reddit (OP)
Not totally sure how much I want to spend. I’ll know I’m ok with the amount when I see it I think. I don’t that have much to throw around though.
N0body@reddit
No need to switch mobo if he stays with AM4.
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
A 5600(x)/5700x that fits in your MOBO could still be powerful enough for a lot GPUs at 1080p
The x3d chips could honestly be enough for any GPU at their intended resolution usage, but those CPU’s are expensive…
The 8gb of vram is a drawback? Are you actually hitting that limit at 1080p? I would think the drawback of the 1080 is just the performance. It’s an old GPU
ReesesPses@reddit (OP)
I think I want to eventually want to upgrade my monitors to both be 1440p / 144hz, but that's later down the line. I want to start future proofing now for when I do that. Sorry, I should have mentioned that too.
As far as the vram thing, I don't know for certain that it's an issue but I strongly believe it is. For example, with the heft that comes with many UE5 games, I usually can run games like Fortnite or Expedition 33 at around medium settings with a decent framerate, but I'll have issues with crashes and some other things that point to it being a lack of vram. Any title older than like 5 years it has no problem with. It doesn't feel like its that old unless I'm trying to run a brand new game basically.
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
You don’t have monitoring software open to the side like HWinfo to monitor vram usage? I think even Nvidias overlay or steams new performance overlay can show vram usage now
ReesesPses@reddit (OP)
I'll take a look, I have most overlays disabled as one of the many recommended remedies for the aforementioned crashing issues.
VersaceUpholstery@reddit
Using monitoring software should be the first thing you do to troubleshoot what the issue is
So you’re not monitoring temps either?
SmokBarrage@reddit
i believe your board can support a 5600x with a bios update
so bios update + 5600x + rest of budget towards best gpu possible. i'd probably recommend a 9060xt 16gb/5060ti 16gb because you have a 650w psu
i'd also consider getting a gen4 tlc nvme ssd if possible.
Sea_Bite2082@reddit
Main problem for 5060ti is 8x PCI-e lines, low performance with PCI-e 3.0
SmokBarrage@reddit
to my knowledge this is only really an issue if you run out of vram which is why i specified 16gb.
but yea my original comment was just the 9060xt and i edited it to include the 5060ti because of this reason exactly. but i dont think its enough performance loss to exclude it on the 16gb vram version
Sea_Bite2082@reddit
You are right.
With 16 gigs it isnt so dramatic. Just +-10%
SmokBarrage@reddit
yea, i'd definitely go 9060xt but if op needs or has a strong affinity for nvidia its not a deal breaker being limited to gen3. ideally they get a 5070 for x16 but i got no idea of their budget
ReesesPses@reddit (OP)
So are you guys saying that a 5060ti 16gb is not compatible with my current motherboard? I have unfortunately always used Nvidia and while I'm open to switching to an AMD card, Nvidia has had some interesting features in recent times and I'm not too up-to-date on AMD features.
SmokBarrage@reddit
it is, its problem is they cut it down to x8 lanes to save money because its supposed to run at gen5 and it doesnt need the full bandwidth of gen5
when you drop it down to gen 3 youre only getting 1/4th the bandwidth it was designed to run at. its not a huge issue until you run out of vram where the slow transfer rate will destroy your fps. with 16gb you'll likely be fine, its just not ideal
if you want to stick with nvidia you totally can but i'd avoid low vram x8 cards like the 5050/5060/5060ti 8gb or get an x16 card like a 5070 or something like a used 4070S
and this advice might be obsolete if nvidia's new vram compression tech truly reduces vram usage by 80% like theyre saying.
SurvivingSquirrel@reddit
5600x, with a 3070. Not to expensive and will run most anything you throw at it
JohnLovesGaming@reddit
You don’t need to upgrade your motherboard, since it’s still AM4, update your bios first and foremost so it will be compatible with Ryzen 5000 chips.
I would not upgrade right now since the 5800x3D is coming back maybe for a limited time, as a 10 year anniversary run in like 2 months.
RAM was the better cheap option but with AI, it’s crazy high. So you can hold off on that. 9060xt 16gb is a pretty decent card new, but if you want a good bang for buck card since you are running a 650w PSU.
Sea_Bite2082@reddit
You dont need to change motherboard.
Your mobo supports all 5xxx ryzens. So, just buy cheap used r5 5600 = and everything is fine. Just install new bios before you swap CPUs.
Second upgrade is new gpu = 9060xt 16gb.
Third = 32gb ram.
And this is it. 5600 + 9060xt + 32gb ram = great budget PC.
MCX6_@reddit
If you're trying not to spend much money you can just upgrade the cpu and gpu. It'll be a noticeable upgrade from what you currently have. You could get a used ryzen 7 3700x and a used rx 6600xt for cheap. If money isn't really a problem then you will need to make a new build so you can have ddr5 ram and newer chipset.