Anonette loves caffeine

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Chadwig315@reddit

How can I drink like 3 pots of coffee in a 12 hour shift and go home and sleeping a baby, while some young girl dies from the equivalent of a few cups? Is this a skill issue?

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womerah@reddit

You should consider your sleep depth also. Do you spring out of bed in the morning, or do you have to fight sleep inertia?

I find if I have coffee after about 1PM, I still sleep like a baby but have more sleep inertia in the morning. It's worse if I eat a meal before bed though

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Chadwig315@reddit

I can have my last cup at 5AM and be out like the dead at 8AM, literally seconds after getting home and will sleep until 4AM.

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Whoa1Whoa1@reddit

Yes. The skill issue is that she was less than 100 lbs and you are over 400 lbs.

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Chadwig315@reddit

Is that why I kept getting headaches and chest pain at 300 lbs? I thought it was weird 400 hurt so much less...

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Critical_Coast_7685@reddit

If drinking only 4 can kill yoh with no underlying heart or other health defects, the company is at fault.

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soul_in_a_fishbowl@reddit

I drank 4 of those earlier today while trying to prep for an audit at work. I’m also on steroids. It’s not the product.

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Dandy11Randy@reddit

FDA recommends 400 mg of caffeine a day. Who knows how much was in one can of the four she was drinking a day - let alone the other bullshit that was probably in there.

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nondescriptzombie@reddit

The chick energy drinks, Alani, have 200mg/can. As a grown ass-man, that's enough to get me all jittery.

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grimoireskb@reddit

One usually keeps me tied over for the day. The second I even think about cracking a second one, I get jittery. Girly design aside, they’re pretty good taste wise.

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GlitteringFutures@reddit

Energy drinks tend to have more caffeine than two cups of black coffee, a couple thousand milligrams of taurine and other stimulants, and about 20 teaspoons of sugar.

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youtheotube2@reddit

Alanis, and most energy drinks these days, have zero sugar

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46516481168158431985@reddit

If it tastes good and has no sugar its probably worse than if it had it.

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TheMadFlyentist@reddit

These particular drinks are sweetened with sucralose, which is the safest artificial sweetener. Even the EU allows it in food.

Definitely better for you than sugar.

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46516481168158431985@reddit

yes its very healthy to eat lab chemicals its how humans are supposed to work

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TheMadFlyentist@reddit

Ah yes, because refined sugar is freely available in nature, right? Didn't realize I was talking to a brilliant chemist.

You're comparing one unnatural thing to another unnatural thing. If you can avoid both refined sugar and artificial sweeteners then you should. On the other hand, if you are choosing between something that is proven to cause insulin resistance/obesity/diabetes vs. something that all existing evidence suggests is safe, then the choice is clear. It would be one thing if we're talking about a gram or two of sugar, but sodas/energy drinks usually contain dozens of grams of pure, refined obesity powder.

But if concerns about "lab chemicals" (lmao) are what you want to cite as a reason to keep guzzling diluted pancake syrup then be my guest. Just don't bring up what's natural or what we are "supposed" to eat when you're talking about refined sugar.

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FlipsieVT@reddit

water is a lab chemical

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LePincheCabron@reddit

The design is very human

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OneRFeris@reddit

It's what humans crave!

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owowhatsthis123@reddit

Everything is chemicals aritard

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GlitteringFutures@reddit

Artificial sweeteners are not benign for the microbiome of the gut, there is always a trade off, but it's probably better than all that sugar. If I need a boost I just get a cup of black coffee.

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youtheotube2@reddit

It is scientifically proven to be better than sugar. Artificial sweeteners are the most studied food in existence because of people like you

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Raulr100@reddit

thousand milligrams

That's called a gram

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AllYallCanCarry@reddit

Better call the folks at CBS and explain how wrong and stupid they've been for decades by calling their show "60 minutes"

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tyschooldropout@reddit

It's the synergy of the taurine and shit that fucks people up.

I've been at 650mg of straight caffeine for half my life and no ill effects

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triknodeux@reddit

I think when you have a shit ton like you, it's not as bad if you have pretty much the same amount every day. But when you just randomly have a ton. I think that's when it gets too spicy

But your amount probably buttfucks your sleep, I think the half-life of caffeine in humans is ~12 hours

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tyschooldropout@reddit

It's got about 6 hours to half-life, I hit the first 400mg within 2 hours of waking up then another 125mg at 1PM and 3PM. I've always gone to bed around 1AM

I think my average six hours of sleep is pretty decent quality lmao

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TheLocustGeneralRaam@reddit

You need more sleep..,

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perfectly_stable@reddit

taurine has been studied to be well tolerated at 6 grams a day. It's not a stimulant either as it has calming effects on your body to counteract caffeine's side effects which might be why people drink too much of those energy drinks

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blazefreak@reddit

sir you must have the worst stomach cramps and constantly pooping with that much caffeine.

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Incognito_Joe@reddit

The cherry slush and lime slush has me hostage

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BiscuitDance@reddit

The Cotton Candy one is God-tier

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grimoireskb@reddit

I think the only flavors I don’t like are the Cosmic Slush, Peach, and any of the seasonal flavors. The rest are all really dam good

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Incognito_Joe@reddit

Cosmic is ok. Wife loves the Hawaiian shaved ice cream

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_nostalgic_dream_@reddit

First time I ever drank an Alani I started shaking because it was too much caffeine and I felt like a crackhead who just took a hit of speed and cleaned my whole house. I can drink them now just fine but I rarely have them now I just stick to monsters or redbulls once in awhile

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Dandy11Randy@reddit

When I was going through a hard course for work, I'd do 3 reigns a day. The shift I'd drink a 2nd reign I'd feel like I was dying, as that drink was taking me over 600 mg for a shift / 900 mg for the day. I literally couldn't imagine taking thay much leisurely

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GR-717@reddit

Are you alright now. I mean health-wise

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DoingCharleyWork@reddit

I've been drinking a lot of caffeine for a long time and I'm quite healthy. Most of these people with issues regarding energy drinks live a lethargic lifestyle and are probably dehydrated all the time.

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Kryptus@reddit

Damn, Reign is one of the stronger ones out there.

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hansnicolaim@reddit

Tolerance and addiction is a real problem. I'm 23 and some days I could go with 4 cans, over here they are 160mg/can, so 640mg a day. I try to stay at 2 and below now, but it's insane how fast your tolerance can build up and you feel dead without two.

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someordinarybypasser@reddit

Effects fully depends on the person. 200 mg does absolutely nothing for me. 400 back to back causes a bit of anxiety, but spread through the day I can drink 600 without noticing it

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ComradeVoytek@reddit

They're only 140mg in Canada, that's weird. I didn't know they had different formulations.

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BigTerpFarms@reddit

180 is the max allowable in Canada unless its coffee flavoured then you can have it up to 300mg.

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spectral_visitor@reddit

God save the king

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MarthUTilt@reddit

Monster Rehab is 160 in Canada. I was surprised too honestly.

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rstrstrs@reddit

They label them 200mg. Testing has shown wild variance batch to batch, could have been as high as 4-500mg per can.

Not just Alani, industry wide.

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spectral_visitor@reddit

They need to come down hard on that.

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ExcitableSarcasm@reddit

A Lidl Monster rip off has 160mg/500ml can. As a man who's quite active for long hours and physically trains, 1/2 a can is enough for me.

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stuiiful@reddit

That's crazy, around me they might have 130mg some maybe less. Most is usually reign with 180 but not much above that where you can purchase it normally

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slushez@reddit

Yea that shit had me cracked out for like 8 hours last week. I can drink a monster and feel pretty much normal for reference.

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b88b15@reddit

Note that they have longer acting versions of caffeine like EEG and guarana seed extract. I prefer monster with only caffeine so it's closer to being totally gone by bed time

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oby100@reddit

*grown ass manlet

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Secure_Narwhal4045@reddit

Americans are so weak

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AlleywayFGM@reddit

the recommended dose is very far off the lethal dose. it takes a downright shocking amount of caffeine to kill a person. those videos you see online of dudes chugging 20 energy drinks don't need to be faked, a large man can handle that much without being at too great a risk.

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Cool-Childhood-2730@reddit

Yeah pretty much. LD50 (Lethal Dosage for atleast 50% of the people) of caffeine is ~10grams. Given no heart deffects that is.

In general, stimulants are much harder to overdose on since its like climbing a staircase. You die on stair 30, have to be hospitalized on stairs 20-30 perhaps, yet feel extra harsh jitteriness, uneasiness, puking and sickness before you even reach 10th. Perhaps with caffeine its even more noticeable due to peripheral stimulation, lots of people here mention metheads but are perhaps not aware that, atleast subjectively, and if it's d-meth, it feels much cleaner than your regular 2 cans of energy drink.

However one should not normalize excessive stimulant usage with this "Your body is going to know well before you have taken too much" princople. The problem with stimulants is damage over time (chronic), not immediate "heart explosions" and ovderdose (acute).

And another thing is that, even though stimulants seem great as a physical performance booster, thats actually a way to "get a couple staircases up" sometimes, as if you combine large stimulant intake + physical exortion + perhaps a "bad day" regarding nutrient intake/sleep, the damage can get exponential.

I bet this unlucky girl, rest in peace, had both of these going for her, both chronic damage from abusing caffeine over given ammount of time + "bad day" to be overstimulated on on top of physical exertion.

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CremousDelight@reddit

I read the whole thing, congrats for the serious comment on this unserious subreddit.

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NegativeVega@reddit

It's not the caffeine but the rest of the garbage inside imo

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Dandy11Randy@reddit

Yeah. Plus the 400 mg of caffeine a day is for adults, this chick started this habbit in the mid teens.

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NegativeVega@reddit

I'd also theorize it impacted sleep. Some guy game to our college classes to warn us about binging energy drinks to stay awake he was pulling extra shifts and working way too much. Got diagnosed with some heart problem iirc. You need to rest

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peppermintaltiod@reddit

Monster has 160 mg per can. So 4 cans is 640mg. For comparison coffee is 100 mg per 8oz and black tea is 30-50 mg per 8oz.

The FDA recommendation is based off of what a grown adult can consume a day without too much risk of developing heart palpations.

Caffeine also effects teens more than adults.

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mortgagepants@reddit

Who knows how much was in one can of the four she was drinking a day

??

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DeadlyPear@reddit

Sure, but the LD50 of caffeine is 150mg per kg. 800mg shouldnt kill someone

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leastemployableman@reddit

An extra large at Tim Hortons has 330 mg lmao

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Kelvinek@reddit

Efsa also does 400mg a day, so its probably not a bullshit

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Shamscam@reddit

Double the intake when she drinks 4. Also who knows why the real number is.

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A-DustyOldQrow@reddit

She didn't just drink 4. She drank 4 a day. For who knows how long. Most people think caffeine is perfectly healthy, and there's no negative consequences to consuming it. And most of the time, they're right. But anything in high enough doses will kill you. Even water, the most basic necessity for life, will kill you if you drink too much too quickly. All it takes is 100 ounces (less than a gallon) consumed within a couple of hours. Remember kids, the dose makes the poison.

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ConscientiousPath@reddit

Pretty certain there was some undiagnosed heart issue. And no it's not the company's fault when you drink what's intended for an entire family, ignoring your body's obvious increasing distress, and hurt yourself. You can die from drinking too much water too fast, but Culligan shouldn't liable if you do.

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WeightedPaper@reddit

I have a terrible caffeine addiction. I don’t know anyone who consumes more than I do, while I have gotten down to about 600mg a day, at my peak I was consuming about 1.2-1.5 grams a day.

Absolutely there were undiscovered health problems, I stay away from the energy drink she’s holding because it’s no where near strong enough for me (I don’t remember the exact caffeine content but I know it’s sub 200mg), 4 of them will not kill the average person. If your sensitive to caffeine it might make you heart feel like it’s jumping out of your chest but it would not kill you unless there are other things at play.

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WeightedPaper@reddit

I have a terrible caffeine addiction. I don’t know anyone who consumes more than I do, while I have gotten down to about 600mg a day, at my peak I was consuming about 1.2-1.5 grams a day. (Would drop a scoop of 300mg pre workout mix into a 300mg energy drink and do that 2-3 times a day)

Absolutely there were undiscovered health problems, I stay away from the energy drink she’s holding because it’s no where near strong enough for me (I don’t remember the exact caffeine content but I know it’s sub 200mg), 4 of them will not kill the average person. If your sensitive to caffeine it might make you heart feel like it’s jumping out of your chest but it would not kill you unless there are other things at play.

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perfectly_stable@reddit

I thought caffeine lowered the risk of Alzheimer's

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Snoot_Boot@reddit

Are you retarded? It says over 4 a day, and obviously it wasn't just 1 day

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Zr0bert@reddit

Drinking "only 4 cans" of vodka would kill a lot of people. Should we blame the company making vodka, or the idiots that drink 4 cans of it ?

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The_Daily_Herp@reddit

no shit 32 ounces of vodka would kill someone.

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extreme_cuddling@reddit

There are people that drink eight cups of coffee a day and are fine

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tehringworm@reddit

A can is not a standard serving of vodka. Four servings wouldn’t cause long-term harm to an average person.

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Zr0bert@reddit

The point is not the fact that it's in a can or a bottle though, is it ? 1.6L of vodka in a day would kill most of us. I used vodka as an example to show that firms should not be held accountable for their customers' stupid behaviour. Drinking 4 cans of energy drink per day is obviously a bad idea. Anything in excess is dangerous, this is common knowledge. Of course it's sad this young girl died of it, I sympathize with her and her loved ones. But this looks like an easily avoidable death by just using common sense.

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tehringworm@reddit

My point was that a can is an intended serving size for energy drinks, but definitely not for vodka. If 4x an intended serving size can kill healthy people, then there is an issue.

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WeeTheDuck@reddit

4x the serving size of anticoagulant pills can certainly kill healthy people. What's your point

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tehringworm@reddit

One you can buy at 7-11, and the other requires a note signed by a doctor….

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GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit

You can overdose if you take more than 14 Tylenol capsules in 24 hours. You can buy a 200 pack right now at Walmart with no prescription or anything. Your point is stupid and the vodka comparison isn’t.

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tehringworm@reddit

Go smoke 200 Marlboros, literally nothing will happen lol

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GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit

It isn’t though. Pretty much any energy drink says it’s 2 servings per can. Is Marlboro at fault for smokers smoking a pack of cigs a day? At some point you gotta accept personal responsibility my dude.

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TheSkyIsBeautiful@reddit

it wasn't 4x intended serving. It's 4x intended serving DAILY for who knows how long

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tehringworm@reddit

I don’t know the particulars of this case; only that the vodka comparison is dumb.

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Obi-Brawn-Kenobi@reddit

But you only thought it was dumb because you didn't read the OP closely enough. 4 drinks of Vodka of over a long period of time can absolutely have very bad effects.

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JojiImpersonator@reddit

My God, if you can't read a label that bad you deserve to die, honestly.

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gundorcallsforaid@reddit

Then why does it come in a whole 750 ml bottle?

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tehringworm@reddit

The same reason they sell milk by the gallon

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gundorcallsforaid@reddit

Sounds like something a coward would say

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AlleywayFGM@reddit

>Drinking "only 4 cans" of vodka would kill a lot of people

I don't know what volume you're thinking of when you say 4 cans of vodka but this is entirely irrelevant either way. "only 4 cans of vodka" is a crazy amount of vodka. "only 4 cans" of an energy drink does not come anywhere near the lethal dose of caffeine for an adult no matter what energy drink you are consuming 4 cans of.

so yeah if 4 cans of an energy drink is somehow able to kill a person then something is seriously wrong with those energy drinks because it couldn't just be the caffeine that killed the person.

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stable_115@reddit

No no individuals cannot be held accountable for anything. Governments should decide everything and control companies as much as possible. They know what is best for us citizens. Also citizens shouldn’t criticize governments

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alitayy@reddit

Mate nobody was saying that. You’re getting tight and arguing with people you made up in your head.

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UntBag@reddit

You can’t read sarcasm can you autismo?

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alitayy@reddit

I’m aware it’s sarcasm mate. That’s the point I’m making. You’re using satire to make a point that didn’t need to be made. You’re preaching to the choir.

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hh26@reddit

If drinking only 4 can kill you with no underlying heart or other health defects, the company is at fault.

You're literally in a comment chain started by a counterexample.

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Ok_Field_5701@reddit

Nice false equivalency retard

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rapzeh@reddit

I drank 3 Celsius energy drink one evening and dust sleep for 24 hours. Checked the can, warns to only drink a maximum of 2 a day. You could safely drin more than 2 cans if beer a day, which is crazy.

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Pacifica212@reddit

Coffee is significantly weaker than most energy drinks yet most people will agree that drinking "only" four cups of coffee in a single day, especially on a daily baisis is dangerous for your heart, so I am pretty sure that this is most likely a self-preservation instinct thing

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FinancialElephant@reddit

A lot of people drink four cups a day, that isn't a huge amount even for the average person. Coffee varies based on caffeine content, four cups is as little as 320 mg. That's a decent amount of caffeine but not enormous.

This issue is highly dependent on genetics. Some people metabolize caffeine very quickly and can even drink 10-12 cups of coffee a day with little noticeable problems.

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Critical_Coast_7685@reddit

Literally no one things drinking for cups of coffee is dangerous lol

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ThexanR@reddit

She drank 4 a day for a while. Not only 4

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gryffon5147@reddit

I doubt the product is at fault. I mean, that's what the family is claiming, but there must have been underlying health issues or aggrevating factors.

800 mgs of caffeine does not make someone's heart "explode".

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Cartoonjunkies@reddit

There have been days that I’ve probably hit if not slightly exceeded 800 mg of caffeine, and I’m still alive lol.

Rip Its on deployment get downed like they’re candy.

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The_Bloofy_Bullshark@reddit

Pretty sure we were living on rip-it, sketchy preworkout supplements, caffeine pills and sketchy street vendor food. Still not sure which one of them caused guys to shit themselves on patrol, though.

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hampsted@reddit

One day at 800 mg is going to be fine. The post said she was drinking 4 cans per day. It’s no surprise that a small girl regularly doubling the maximum daily recommended dose of caffeine had a cardiac event.

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ramm102412@reddit

Adding to this, these kind of products literally will say "max 2 cans a day" or 3.

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EarlMarshal@reddit

High chance that she was vaxxed.

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SteelCandles@reddit

Maybe people should read directions? Why do we have all this health information on products if people won’t pay attention to it? What happened to personal responsibility.

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AdWonderful4305@reddit

Exactly. The product says 18+ and states a daily caffeine limit. She ignored both of those warnings and died because of it.

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TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit

Paint a big red skull warning sign on it, add that death can come swiftly if limit is transgressed.
Anything less than that feels like deadly eggshells and barely visible tripwires everywhere and you can just stumble into it

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Shot_Salamander859@reddit

Nah, i think we should hold them accountable anyway. Its big evil corporations responsibility to police the personal consumption of their goods.

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alitayy@reddit

Honestly I agree. If for no other reason than to punish overly greedy corporations for ruining the world.

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pokelord13@reddit

4 cans is a whole fucking lot of caffeine dude. I had a friend do the same thing with only two cans of monster a day and he ended up having a heart attack after doing that for over a year

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elreduro@reddit

1 can a day makes you shit your pants

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BassKing69@reddit

Really isn’t the fault of the company, especially since the cans explicitly state that you shouldn’t have more than 2 a day or any at all if you’re under the age of 18. The parents are at fault here.

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ATPsynthase12@reddit

4 cans of modern energy drinks has 200-300 mg of caffeine per drink which can be 800-1200mg of caffeine in a day. If consumed in a short period of time that can definitely be enough to precipitate cardiac arrhythmias

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Stillborne330@reddit

clearly she had heart issues

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ITSNAIMAD@reddit

200mg per can last time I checked. I think that’s equivalent to like 4 cups of coffee. That’s a lot of caffeine.

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stereoSD@reddit

I refuse to believe that any of the users commenting how 200mg give them jitters aren't 12 yo kids larping

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Mr__Castle_@reddit

I feel bad about the situation because she's hot.

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OiledUpThug@reddit

17 btw

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yecapixtlan@reddit

Your point?

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Blackout1154@reddit

oops too old for anon

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ahackercalled4chan@reddit

SHE WAS ONLY 17 YOU SICK FUCK!

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Swimming_Register_32@reddit

Legal in Europe

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BeterBiperBeppers@reddit

she was in high school brother

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clippervictor@reddit

And in Afghanistan

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FilthyTumors@reddit

A child is still a child..

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candycane7@reddit

and in 37 US states.

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JKCsaba@reddit

Bro didnt read she was mexican

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sullyoverwatch@reddit

if it makes you feel better, the girl in the pic goes to Washington University, and is not 17 lmao

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McWeaksauce91@reddit

nope, 17

What do you guys find attractive about her? Is it the braces? lol

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Small-Chip-9961@reddit

Anon can’t understand why people find attractive people attractive…

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McWeaksauce91@reddit

I don’t find her attractive? I guess your bar is low enough you may.

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nnuunn@reddit

Found the gooner who only likes henti

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McWeaksauce91@reddit

Sick burn, bro, out of this world

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Agile_Return_7684@reddit

She looks like Sid the sloth bro

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baudmiksen@reddit

Mmmm....pinecones

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MinosML@reddit

Lame lookism but fairly honest

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Critical_Coast_7685@reddit

Bro do you have eyes??

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Capnmarvel76@reddit

She was 17, athletic enough to have been a cheerleader, and already looked rough. By 30 she was going to be a complete wildebeest.

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baudmiksen@reddit

She wasn't just hot she had a really big heart too

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Ched---@reddit

Valid

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preferablyno@reddit

How the fuck are so many people in this thread familiar with FDA recommendations for caffeine consumption

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freet0@reddit

wtf do you mean anonette? her name is on her sleeve

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VeritablyVersatile@reddit

The strongest energy drinks on the market (other than certain niche ready to drink pre-workout supplements that you can only really find at bodybuilding focused supplement stores) are 300mg of caffeine/serving.

4 of those is 1200mg of caffeine, 3 times the FDA recommended daily caffeine limit.

A standard pot of black coffee is 700-1200mg of caffeine. 4 of those energy drinks is equivalent to a strong pot of black coffee.

If a strong pot of black coffee can kill you, there is almost certainly something else going on. A congenital heart defect/arrhythmia, a coingestant, or another environmental factor.

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blutigetranen@reddit

No way she didn't have a pre-existing condition

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YourGuyElias@reddit

You know what bro, either I'm some sort of biological anomaly or it's iust her body's skill issue in some way.

At my worst, I've literally drank a solid 7 16oz. Red Bull's in the span of 4 hours and faced zero issues. I've gone through 3 16oz 4 packs in under 24 hours before too.

I still pretty regularly bang out 2 of whatever energy drinks I've got in my fridge whenever I take my morning adderall.

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Maybe_this_time_fr@reddit

This shit she drinking make redbull looks like water though.

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bellymeat@reddit

The difference is what she’s drinking is 250mg a can. Red Bulls are 80mg a can.

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IAmMadeOfNope@reddit

No shit dude, your body's used to Adderall.

I've been taking it for years and caffeine affects me the same way. I need to take enough to kill a donkey before I even start feeling it and somehow my blood pressure's always perfect.

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Mastodon1371@reddit

Each can had 200mg of caffeine. Recommended daily max for healthy adults is 400mg so as a young teen probably less than that. She was consuming at least 2x the daily recommended amount everyday.

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ConscientiousPath@reddit

Tolerance is a thing though. She almost certainly had some undiagnosed heart issue for this to kill her.

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NebuchanderTheGreat@reddit

400mg is only like 3-4 cups of coffee.

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Mastodon1371@reddit

Caffeine isn’t the only factor here

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NebuchanderTheGreat@reddit

You were only talking about caffeine, though.

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Mastodon1371@reddit

Either way everyone knows too much caffeine is not good for you, energy drink or coffee there’s still a healthy limit. Even caffeine pouches with 50mg have a warning to limit it to 8 per day.

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LeloucheL@reddit

yeah height and weight matters the most. A 17 yr old latina girl is around 5ft tall lol she was cooked with even 1-2 cans if it was daily

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JKCsaba@reddit

She was weak as fuck, I abused a shitload of various substances when i was a teen including but not only pcp and oxys and i turned out just fine (Well thats a stretch lol but I'm half decent I'd like to think)
Its literally written on the can to not consume more than one can a day?? Like If I drink 4 times the daily recommended ammount from a lot of things its harmful to my body. Imagine i drink 3-4 bottles of wine a day, I'd probably wind up dead too? Like eating 100 hambugers and then going but ahhh its food i should have been safe? Overconsuming anything can kill you pretty much? What a stupid debate.

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nnuunn@reddit

She must have had underlying heart issues, the FDA says 400mg a day is totally safe, so way more should be pretty safe, too.

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clompin@reddit

Nah she didn’t have any health conditions, most likely chronic elevated blood pressure did it

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nnuunn@reddit

Chronic elevated blood pressure is an underlying health condition

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clompin@reddit

Only if it was diagnosed, it was caused by energy drinks, not lack of physical equilibrium

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nnuunn@reddit

Again, 400mg is safe safe per the FDA, so 800mg (assuming it was 4 allani) should be fine unless she's got some underlying health issues.

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clompin@reddit

Yes, but 4 cans a day for weeks on end? She was in sports and cheerleading and she made the drink her identity.

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nnuunn@reddit

Yes, 400mg is for daily consumption

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clompin@reddit

You’re not getting it

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nnuunn@reddit

No, I get it, you're just wrong

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clompin@reddit

No I’m not, chronic consumption of twice the daily intake of caffeine is potentially fatal

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nnuunn@reddit

Chronic consumption of exactly the daily intake is potentially fatal if she had underlying health issues, and if she didn't, it's really unlikely that double the dose would have done it. She had other issues.

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clompin@reddit

The examiners literally confirmed she didn’t, have you done any research into this? And she wasn’t drinking the daily intake, she was drinking double that which does come with risks. Thats why the FDA daily dose is 400 mg and not 800 mg

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nnuunn@reddit

The examiners said that there was nothing else in her system, that's not the same thing as no other underlying conditions.

You know the FDA includes a safety margin, yes? It's not like 400mg is fine and 401mg will kill you.

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bellymeat@reddit

No, she’s holding an Alani, those things are fucking 250mg a can or something. I’m a big guy and I can’t take more than one of them without feeling like shit.

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nnuunn@reddit

"Feeling like shit" is no where close to dying, the fatal dose of caffeine is typically closer to dozens of cans of energy drinks unless she's especially sensitive.

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IAmMadeOfNope@reddit

Yes and no for the 400mg/day. That figure is factoring in that the person drinking it is an otherwise average-sized healthy adult.

Not a 17yo girl. There's a reason they'll weigh you before giving you anesthesia.

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nnuunn@reddit

That doesn't make any sense, a 17 year old girl is more or less fully grown and she's probably healthier than the average adult.

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philmarcracken@reddit

The reason is called low therapeutic index of anesthesia class drugs. Their active effective dosages are close to their LD50.

Caffeine is 150–200 milligrams per kilogram of body mass. Her death will be examined to be either liver troubles hindering caffeine cleanup or extremely low tolerances

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Ched---@reddit

Skill issue, I know crack heads that have been smoking for years and they're still kicking. Unfortunately

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8last@reddit

Crackheads live forever. Like fallout ghouls.

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FluxFreeman@reddit

You should see my cousin at 65, crack and alcohol his whole life, multiple motorcycle crashes, lives in a studio still kicking. He’ll live forever and he’s fun to party with

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grouchoscar91@reddit

And u can’t knock them out the got that R strength

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SpaceForceDok@reddit

They don't make it to 65.

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wavs101@reddit

Ok good. They contribute to social security without getting any benefits!

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doxenking@reddit

Lol, they're not contributing

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wavs101@reddit

What do you mean? Being a crackhead is a full time job. Are you implying that they dont fill out their 1040s?

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aa2051@reddit

Smoothskin over here telling lies

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clippervictor@reddit

“Fallout ghouls” made me cackle

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Wiwwil@reddit

But are they truly alive, or just surviving ?

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JustChillin3456@reddit

If you asked them would say alive

Right before they strip the copper out of your walls

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Manger-Babies@reddit

Literally probably true, she probably had a preexisting condition.

And she still wasn't supposed to do that to begin with

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Balcara@reddit

I think many people are missing the point of this allegory

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Alexastria@reddit

Rookie numbers

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IzzotGames@reddit

Erythritol, thats why when you drink these things you can get a nice breathalyzer reading, even can happen with any energy drink

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KasKyo@reddit

Crapload of ppl die in car crashes without their fault and it's somewhat okay since we don't ban cars. But consuming some shit by choice despite health recommendation and overdosing? Yeah, totally need to ban that.

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b88b15@reddit

Cars at least get you to work or play. Guns on the other hand have no valid uses and are at fault when killing yourself, kids or spouse.

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RetroFannyPack@reddit

Braindead b8 take.

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nevadita@reddit

the problem is not 4 can a day, i have seen bricklayers and IT contractors gulping down 6-7 cans a day without batting an eye. the problem is that if you start downing 4 cans out of the blue thinking its gonna give you a boost like the spinach to popeye. then you are an idiot.

also, adults usually build tolerance to caffeine gradually over their life. a child? (girl was 17) not so much

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Present_Confusion311@reddit

Skill issue I drink like six a day

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Ecstatic-Compote-595@reddit

idk how to break this to you but she did a bunch of drugs and her parents or whoever was with her just lied about it

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Dan007a@reddit

Need 4 day work week for school and work capitalism is killing us with pressure to perform when we need more space to rest

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GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit

Did the energy drink company force her to drink as many cans of redbull as her heart could take a day or was that done by her own stupidity? I’d say it’s a minor form of modern day natural selection.

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MacTheVII@reddit

That's about 100g of sugar per day,

Which is actually significantly under the average intake of sugar for Hispanic women.

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Dark_knightTJ@reddit

rookie numbers she was weak 4 is a low amount lol

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Foreboy78@reddit

I mean in the army some girl in the same unit od on pre workout never even made it out her room

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Dargorad@reddit

4 cans? Those are rookie numbers...

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Lovebickysaus@reddit

a red bull is less caffeine than a normal coffee, if you drink rtrd energy drinks it's unhealthy yes

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nissan240sx@reddit

I drink a mini Red Bull here and there, 1 Alani will fuck me up - if she’s doing 4 a day then she is regarded but I know several girls in 06’ when monsters first came out that would pound 2 cans a day - granted they look like sht and their look it’s what stopped me from drinking more than 1 can a day lol

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jewishNEETard@reddit

Weakling.

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2oonhed@reddit

because the highest energy is the most

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Sharky-Li@reddit

This is like that chick who died from drinking Charged Lemonade from Panera bread. She drank several cups adding up to over 1000mg but she also had a heart condition. Most people can drink large amount of caffeine and be fine but people with health issues may not. Same thing with the 1 chip challenge.

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SeaOfS1n@reddit

She really tried the BONK! Atomic Punch cheat strat 😭😭

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leastemployableman@reddit

Energy drinks are just as bad as smoking if not worse. Ive been addicted to them since I was 14 and im in my 30s now. The only reason smoking gets a worse rap is because of the mountains of studies done for almost a century. Kids under 18 shouldn't be consuming something so toxic for your health but im guessing that would hurt big chain convenience store profits too much for anything to be done about it.

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orangedogtag@reddit

She died and the best picture the family picked literally has the drink in it. I reckon it was more than 4 a day

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IrregularrAF@reddit

They definitely put too much damn caffeine in drinks in my opinion to be as easily accessible as they are. Young people having heart attacks and/or dying isn’t uncommon since 200mg-300mg has become the norm. Most ree’s are just drinking them because they like them, not because they need that much damn caffeine.

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ytmnic@reddit

You can pry my Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs from my cold dead hands

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drkinferno94@reddit

So the limit is 3

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ERIKCONDITIONER@reddit

Also addictive. Physically and mentally addictive.

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pufanu101@reddit

Also, shit goes hard with cigarettes. I rarely have either anymore, I had to snap myself out of it.

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TryHardFapHarder@reddit

Energy drinks were originally intended to be consumed only when really needed, and limited to a couple at most. Now, people drink them as if they were water or soda and complain that drinking four is nothing and shouldn't harm them. It’s no wonder there are so many underlying weight and health issues. The few times I’ve tried one, it felt like drinking 'cancer' because of how artificial they taste

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Ormusn2o@reddit

Not saying whenever it's healthy or not, but there is no recorded death caused by a caffeinated drink, be it energy drink, coffee or any other. Every single recorded caffeine related death is either from overconsumption of caffeine pills or caffeine powder, one example being of a bodybuilder consuming 200 cups equivalent of caffeine in short time.

Even with heart disease, 4 energy drinks would be pushing it. More likely is that energy drinks were heavy on her kidneys and she was dehydrated, although I don't know specifics of this case. If you do sports, please drink water in addition to energy drinks.

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TryHardFapHarder@reddit

Energy drinks originally were advised to be only consumed at occasions where it's really needed and only a couple at most, now people drink them like if they were water or ordinary soda and complain that drinking 4 is nothing at shouldn't ail you, no wonder the underlying overweight and health issues you people have. The very few occasions I tried one felt like drinking cancer for how artificial they taste.

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h1pp1e_cru5her@reddit

x3. She drank 12 a day. It's always x3

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Upper-Distribution94@reddit

I used to drink about 10 energy drinks a day. I don't understand how some people are so weak they just drop dead from them.

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ArmeSloeber@reddit

I dont understand why u would drink 10 energy drinks a day? Gotta be a mental illness of some kind

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WASTELAND_RAVEN@reddit

Alani has 200mg caffeine per can, the recommended max a day for most people with no heart issues is 600mg max, she was having 800mg caffeine daily, makes sense if it was long term.

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BudgetThat2096@reddit

Damn maybe I should lower my caffeine intake. I take a 200mg caffeine pill when I wake up, then sip on a monster at work, then drink another when I go to the gym during my lunch break

I sleep just fine and feel fine though. Maybe my tolerance is just super high

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elreduro@reddit

Real life nuka cola

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Binaural_Wave@reddit

Yeah the recommended amount of caffeine per day to adults is 400mg, but the acute toxicity that derives from an intoxication comes when you pass the 150-200mg per Kg (in adults at least)

If she was, say, 50kg; then, poisoning should occur roughly around 7.5gr/day intake. That’s a lot, that would require more than 4 cans of an energy drink.

The thing is, we don’t know what actual Concentration of caffeine was in her bloodstream; according to literature, the >50mg/L threshold has proven consistent to determine poisoning, but it is not until >80 that it reaches a Fatal amount.

What happened then? She could’ve: - died of something else entirely - had an underlying medical Condition exacerbated by the caffeine - was extremely unlucky and did die with a small amount of caffeine ( even considering she must’ve developed some degree of tolerance, given the daily intake)

Source: UpToDate, on Acute Caffeine Poisoning

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Fernsong@reddit

My sister has a similar addiction, she’d drink several cans a day, but gets mad when people tell her to chill, it’s bleak

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Sreston@reddit

This chick made drinking Alani like her personality lmao. This is a parenting issue..

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SaibaPunkTrunks@reddit

I've had to respond to medical events of table games dealers passing out while dealing and standing up.

Back in the early 00s at the big rise of energy drinks i worked security at a casino, card dealers like to party and guzzle energy drinks the next day.

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Dorkenstein666@reddit

Id assume your toleration would grow consuming that much caffeine daily. Also a really great advertising campaign for energydrinks, "Makes your heart explode!".

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SteelCandles@reddit

Tolerance is a poor indicator of the toll a drug can take on your body physiologically. How you’re feeling is not related to what it’s actually doing to you.

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8last@reddit

Is she shotgunning them back to back? Spacing them out? Normally 4 a day will just give you crippling heartburn and high blood pressure which will eventually kill you but everyone knows that.

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anonymouswan1@reddit

She probably wasn't eating a healthy diet at all if she was drinking that many energy drinks. Caffeine can suppress hunger. That much caffeine is tolerable if you're eating a healthy balanced diet around it. If you're only consuming shitty zero sugar energy drinks all day you're fixing to be in bad shape.

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Demorant@reddit

The company is being sued for inadequate warnings on their beverages. The teen had an enlarged heart which was presumed to be caused by caffeine intake. The beverages that were consumed have 200mg of caffeine, which is twice the recommended maximum amount for a teenager. So, if the 4 can number is accurate she was drinking 8 times the recommended maximum.

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