Buffer tube stock on an Ak-47, aesthetic or functional?
Posted by SalvoRosario@reddit | ForgottenWeapons | View on Reddit | 37 comments
I got this curiosity when I realized that the AK used in MW2 uses an AR-style buffer tube stock, probably due to the devs not being used to handling real guns and modelling off Airsoft or creative license to make guns looks cool.
but at the end of the day would it be possible, or has any gun without a buffer tube needed for its operation ever been modded in such a way that the buffer spring soaks some of the recoil force?
maybe there are some hybrid AK-AR prototype rifles out there?
JustSomeGuyMedia@reddit
There are some special AR stock adapters for AKs that absorb recoil but that’s just because they’re designed to do that.
SalvoRosario@reddit (OP)
So they do exist??
TheRaptorSix@reddit
If memory serves FAB Defence used to make these. Basically two tubes nested inside each other with a recoil buffer.
JustSomeGuyMedia@reddit
Sorta. It’s not the tube itself doing anything. The adapter just has a buffer in it. It’s SORT OF like a bump stock.
duga404@reddit
On AKs, recoil is absorbed by the rear trunnion. Some AKs have buffer pads attached by the back of the recoil spring, but you can't have an AR-style buffer without a completely new receiver and rear trunnion. You can easily put AR buffer tube stocks onto AKs if with the use of an adapter, though, so the stock pictured is definitely possible IRL; I'm pretty sure the default stock on the AK-12 is at least inspired by AR adjustable stocks.
SalvoRosario@reddit (OP)
thanks for the explanation!
>without a completely new receiver and rear trunnion
so has there ever been some hybrid receiver that combines the action of AK with the translation of the recoil energy into an extended buffer tube-like inside the stock?
duga404@reddit
I don’t think so. It would be pretty pointless; there’s better ways to reduce AK recoil.
Ill_Interest_2346@reddit
I think my bigger question is shouldnt be wood instead of polymer?
SalvoRosario@reddit (OP)
Wooden stock on an Ar-15 would look weird now that I think about it lol
leicanthrope@reddit
You haven’t spent much time patrolling the Mojave and wishing for a nuclear winter, I presume.
Ill_Interest_2346@reddit
I meant on the ak. Most aks you see are wood.
The_First_Curse_@reddit
Older AKs sure, not modern ones.
Ill_Interest_2346@reddit
Iarqi type 2 and serbian M70 say hi.
TheDoctor264@reddit
If you google AK buffer tube adapter you will see many results for aftermarket adapters that insert where the wooden or bakelite stocks would on many AK platforms. So not just an Airsoft thing.
SalvoRosario@reddit (OP)
yeah seeing them as attachments only was wat made me question if anyone ever made an hybrid to translate the excess recoil into the buffer tube, not just as a versatile attachment
KeeganY_SR-UVB76@reddit
No, there’s no reason to. You’ll only make the gun less reliable.
shark_aziz@reddit
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Popular_Mushroom_349@reddit
Functional.
Aftermarket AR stocks tend to fit the shoulder better. And you can adjust the stock length for different people.
_That_Guy_in_AZ_@reddit
What's a dev? And function matters more than form, or vibes.
GoredonTheDestroyer@reddit
Isn't that the Modern Warfare 2 AK?
magnuman307@reddit
I can hardly recognize it without the autumn camo, acog and m203.
GoredonTheDestroyer@reddit
You fool!
The AK-47 in MW1, 2 and 3 doesn't have an M203! It has a GP-30!
magnuman307@reddit
All, including memory withers with time, so to shall we weep for youth forgotten.
IntelligentGrade7316@reddit
Zahal made/sold recoil reducing stocks for AK's and Cz/Vz's. They might still, haven't checked in a few years.
whatapunk95@reddit
Functional. I run my stocks pretty short, some people don’t like that. AK stocks are already a pretty comfy LOP, to me. I think the rest of the Ak controls are a bigger issue than the stock.
DOOM_INTENSIFIES@reddit
Such as?
The only thing missing imo is a bolt catch/release. Not sure why, since the sks and even the svt had it before it.
With that said, the charging handling position is definitively a choice.
whatapunk95@reddit
I find the stock AK safety and magazine release clunky compared to even a stock M16A1. I would label sights as a control as well, given that up until the last 20 years iron sights were standard. And the AK loses there as well, rear aperture is super fast and easy. Some people can run AKs very fast (like Klayco) but for 90% of people, a retro AR15 with stock parts is faster to use. Not knocking them, East German AKs are one of my favorite rifles of all time.
GoldfishDude@reddit
Being fair, a button mag release on a rock-n lock gun sounds awful
GoldfishDude@reddit
I think it's honestly ugly as sin. I can slightly understand it in a military context, for a civilian you should get a proper stock that fits you
BicSparkLighter@reddit
length of pull
Tounushi@reddit
The Armalite buffer tube functions as any semi-automatic shotgun or rifle's buffer tube has functioned in the half-century before the design of the AR-10: it's where the recoil spring sits.
On the AK the buffer tube is hollow, being only there to provide a compatible mount for aftermarket AR stocks. An AK can and does function without a stock, since its recoil spring is in line with the gas tube (the shorter tube in front of the weapon, above the barrel).
To modify the AK or any other similar weapon to have the recoil spring in the stock would require a fair bit of re-engineering the weapon, especially so the bolt carrier would have an extension to actually actuate the buffer. Usually redesigns go the other way so the weapon could have a folding stock.
Strikerrr0@reddit
Russian Spetsnaz units mount AR buffer tubes and stocks on their AK-74s all the time. It's a popular mod to get a telescoping stock on an AK.
imnotaracist_but@reddit
Buffer tube stocks on AKs are very much a thing but they don't take part in the guns operation they are there purely to facilitate the collapsing stock function. For example type 1 AK12s have buffer tube folding stocks though they are not compatible with AR-15 stocks.
Mr_E_Monkey@reddit
Depends on whether you can store Skittles in it.
ardesofmiche@reddit
At least some part functional, not for the bolt carrier obviously but it’s one of the easier ways to add an adjustable length stock to an AK. There are other ways but this way is pretty easy and gives a wide choice of stocks
Advanced-Cycle7154@reddit
It’s functional insofar as you can attach different AR-style stocks to an AK and potentially have a more comfortable gun to use.
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