Leaving sysadmin to become an IT teacher
Posted by Whiswhisth22@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 56 comments
Hey people,
interested in opinions and experiences of others. I have been working long time in IT support, helpdesk, and sysadmin, working in small and big infrastructures and processes. I realized changes for future job posts, and needing to learn to becoming devops, cybersecurity and cloud expert, but i don't want to go that route. I have experience with web programming, but in todays world of AI it isn't worth going thar route also. Also, of course, getting older.
I have a lot of broad IT knowledge and like to work in person. There is a need for providing learning of IT in my area, kids but also in different parts of IT, and AI seems to only increase that need for human learning interaction.
I am interested for your experience if you have any - going that route, from an hardcore IT specialist to IT teacher. Do you know examples going into teacher, educator in the field of IT? Thanks.
slugshead@reddit
Teach the basics, they're not going anywhere and are DESPERATELY NEEDED.
We have students that don't understand when you ask them where they saved something. They just press save and search for it afterwards.
We have literal steps in exams that they get wrong
The amount that get those few simple steps so wrong is unbelivable.
Basic fundamentals (That we take for granted as part of "That's how you use a computer") have never been in such demand.
Learn to turn the damn thing on before you vibecode an app.
Master-IT-All@reddit
That's work of yesterday, not tomorrow.
As someone selling customers on the future I'm working to change people from "I need to organize things with multiple levels of long folder names" which breaks SharePoint and OneDrive to, "don't worry where it goes when you ask Copilot to save the file, Copilot will take care of it."
When you want it later, ask Copilot. Stop wasting productivity on picking where to save a file that you asked Copilot to create.
This is like Friday, my Project manager asked me to put together a diagram for this little network. I blurped that into Copilot and it produced the END format which is supposed to be a PDF. He couldn't wrap his head around the idea that you don't need to create a Visio or draw io when the AI can just shit out the end format. How do you update it? I ASK COPILOT. But how does it update it? It can read PDF. But how would someone else update it? I'd hope they'd not be dumb and just use the Copilot license you're paying for each of us to use.
So I worked out the compromise that would satisfy their block, and will have Copilot output Visio or draw io compatible files.
But I'm not ever going to open draw IO to create diagrams. That's stupid wasteful use of time when an AI can shit out the result faster than you can type in the prompt. When Copilot saves it, the data rules will take care of where the file gets saved. In this case since I told Copilot what project we're working on, it puts it right to the project folder. End users needing to think about where to save files is so 1986.
slugshead@reddit
That's all good and well, but when students are literally examined on how to saves files and create a folder structure. They kind of need to be able to do it.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
I know, i had a student at my job, it was terrifying
RjBass3@reddit
Was an IT Teacher for 11 years until my position was eliminated. They put tech education in the hands of the regular classroom teachers and farmed out the IT help desk and support. So I took my years of being an educator and sysadmin at the school to the actual IT world and have been making way more money ever since.
skat_in_the_hat@reddit
Kind of feels like you did it backwards. Shouldnt you have worked in the industry before attempting to teach it to other people?
RjBass3@reddit
I did work in the industry before I taught. Had my own company for a bit but then the housing bubble burst and all those fun economic times then. The teaching job fell in my lap as what was supposed to be a temp gig. 11 years later (2019) done teaching and back into the corp world.
skat_in_the_hat@reddit
Sweet, how long were you in the industry? What did you do?
RjBass3@reddit
Was born into an IBM family in 74, got our first IBM XT PC in 82. Aside from my short stint in the active duty army from 94 to 97, I was always around PCs and technology. My tech business was in custom PCs and small business networking, servers etc. circa 02 to 08 or so.
skat_in_the_hat@reddit
Ah awesome, it seems like those were the days to work for IBM too. Unfortunately these days they are doing a lot of resource allocating to India.
Ah cool were you doing Microsoft SBS?
RjBass3@reddit
Yeah several SBS systems. I preferred to custom build them from SuperMicro boards and get the companies much more powerful SBS's over the over priced Dell P4 SBS's several of them got.
Master-IT-All@reddit
What value is experience in DOS, NT4, troubleshooting NetBIOS, Win 95, XP, 7, 8? What's the value of having a good checklist for setting up Adobe Illustrator 7, and Photoshop 6?
For applied tech, you don't want to be taught how things were done 20 years ago. You want someone that is HOT to learn the new shit that is your future. Find someone with 2 years of experience, not 20 if you want to prepare for tomorrow.
Ssakaa@reddit
I'd rather someone with both a couple decades in AND a genuine passion for learning still. The guy with 2 years in is flying by the seat of his pants chasing the latest buzzword without a solid grasp on how all the pieces actually fit together. The guy with 20 in that isn't afraid of the new toys is, instead, laughing at the hype cycles and pulling out lessons about actual fundamentals that've held up through the years. They'll teach those and give students insight into things that'll last through the hype cycles that follow.
skat_in_the_hat@reddit
I'd prefer that over someone who has never worked in the field.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Yep, seems weird. I want to exit this company and leave this industry to the hip youngsters and teach right about now all the tips I learned.
skat_in_the_hat@reddit
If I were to leave the field, it would be to get a job that requires less interacting with people. Not more, and younger. But if that makes you happy, then hell yea!
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
I know what you mean, i am an romantic, trying to make a difference still
Dissk@reddit
In theory yes, unfortunately this is a common thing in academia. The best professors I had were those that worked in industry (either previously, or at the same time while working as an adjunct professor)
illicITparameters@reddit
My grandfather worked in industry for 25+ years before transitioning to teaching. His biggest complaint were the number of professors with zero industry experience. He thought it was such a dangerous disservice to students, because they were teaching kids who would one day have peoples’ lives in their hands.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
I won't be like those professors for sure
YakRough1257@reddit
I'm an adult workforce instructor in the evenings. I teach Comptia courses to adults that are either unemployed or looking for a new career. It is a nice part time gig.
QuantumRiff@reddit
Honestly, I have been thinking about this more and more too. I’m getting close to 50, and love what I do, but I also am actively with some high school programs my kids are in, and I really like working with kids that age. Plus, my high school computer teacher in the 90s was a person that many of the ‘social misfits’ gravitated to, and they all adored her, and she made them feel normal. Plus, summers off would be fantastic!
And no oncall!
Trust_8067@reddit
The best professors I had taught part time, while working in the industry. The other ones were very out of touch with the industry and technology, to the point where they were learning the material at the same time as us, reading updated books.
post4u@reddit
In the immortal words of Dewey Finn: Those that can't do, teach, and those that can't teach, teach...gym.
Totally kidding. I'm an IT manager. My wife is a teacher. There's NO WAY I could teach. If you can do it and that's what makes you happy, get after it. I have 6 kids of my own and I'm the chair of the steering committee for our local high school's computer science academy. Every year we hold a round table where we talk to students about what we do and give advice and whatnot. The number one piece of advice I always give students is to not settle on a job you hate. A lot of people spend more waking hours working than they do any thing else. It's so much better working somewhere you get to do what you love vs. hating it every day. Is it easy to change jobs? No. Can you always have what you want? Also no. But if you find yourself doing something you don't like, work your way out of it and find something you really do like.
The good news for you is that schools are having a hard time finding teachers. So many people are getting out of teaching. It may not be that hard for you to find a place to teach.
What are you thinking? K12? College? At some schools you don't need a full blown teaching credential and can get by with a CTE credential to teach tech/IT.
Ssakaa@reddit
So you want to teach them... the stuff that won't get their foot in the door in the new iterations of what IT is?
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Those are all buzzwords, of course i know and have done everything mentioned, but don't want to transition fully from sysadmin or "sysadmin" as I am currently, but want to interact with people more
Ssakaa@reddit
You do understand, to teach something, you have to learn it through and through. To motivate people to learn something, you have to actually enjoy doing it, and be able to convey that. "I don't enjoy these new approaches" is not going to carry well into getting people to want to learn them.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
That what you are describing have nothing to do what i wrote, and I doubt you know what information technology is.
Ssakaa@reddit
Yeah... the problem I called out? It's not IT specific in any way. It's about teaching, and doing so effectively.
I've been doing this stuff since DOS. I've done everything from helpdesk through network admin, Windows endpoint management, Windows servers, on-prem hardware, virtualization, and then moved those skills over to cloud, IaC/Devops focused Linux admin, Kubernetes, a variety of infosec roles including identity management and compliance related work, waltzed through picking up CISSP on a whim... but you know, you're right. Maybe I have no idea what IT is.
And, as I noted in the edit above, I also routinely taught those things to an ever rotating group of students coming through the IT office in an Engineering school. Teaching is very different from doing. You can bullshit your way through making things work a lot of the time. You can't do that with teaching.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
That what you are describing is not information technology. "Learn to become those things..." ... "become those things", yeah really man... Weird you didn't mention AI expertise, it would close the circle.
Ssakaa@reddit
I'm curious what you would define as IT then. And, you listed the "buzzwords" of "devops, cybersecurity and cloud expert" that you don't want to learn to do... but also claim to have done. One of those things doesn't make sense when paired with the other. Either way, if you don't have a genuine passion for it, and don't want to continue learning, you won't be a good teacher. Plain and simple. And that's true of teaching anything, whether it's IT or underwater basket weaving.
Master-IT-All@reddit
You don't have interest in learning the technology of the future, so you'll be training people on the technology of yesterday. What value is your education other than in a history class?
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
That technologies are not "technology of the future", it is the fundamentals that needs to be taught, not the modern implementations of IT.
Oflameo@reddit
I went to a tech school that is currently permanently shut down. It the tech department was full of IT teachers that were former sysadmins.
I corrected a book the first quarter. 3rd quarter the teacher tried to have us use an out of support version of Fedora for class, and I used Centos instead. I am currently working outside of the IT field and have got paid more than any job the school could help me get.
Overall, I would have told myself to skip school and just learn from the Internet since where all of the useful information came from and I wouldn't be liable for the education huge fees from a deadbeat institution.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
thank you for your experience
M365Expert@reddit
Hi, I worked for an organization that had both consultants and teachers and they cross trained, but teachers pretty much stayed teachers. I have several colleagues that went the path your thinking of and they really enjoyed it. Not sure what the market is right now for hiring teachers though. Have you thought of starting your own teaching org? That could be lucrative and you could find what's needed and design your courses around that.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Yes, but not right away, first start and teach in person.
remembermemories@reddit
That honestly sounds like a better life if you can handle the pay cut
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Thanks! I'm considering
VexingRaven@reddit
My IT teachers in college were all IT professionals that taught classes in the evenings. They were the best teachers I ever had, there's just no substitute for real world experience in this field. Look for community and tech colleges, they often have evening classes you could check out.
awful_at_internet@reddit
I am working on my MS in no small part so I can teach classes on how to apply critical thinking to technology. Basic fundamentals, etc.
I'm in higher ed. Most of our departments have at least one staff who is also an adjunct; I wont be the first in IT. I dont want to make the full switch; I like teaching, but I like IT more.
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
I love this I would love to see what your concepts are. Discrete math is good for the logic but an added critical thinking component is honestly something most people in any profession could use, especially in tech where our troubleshooting skills need to be razor sharp,
UncannyPoint@reddit
While working in school IT, we shared a room with the IT teachers. Two had previously been IT professionals. One had been a database migration contractor, the other had been desktop support.
While both clearly got enjoyment from teaching, they both said it was more grueling and stressful than their previous occupations. Specially when the curriculum changed and shifted to be far more programming heavy. One had to quit because they felt they couldn't teach it well enough.
ReadyAimTranspire@reddit
I hear that especially in the college system that the admin overhead of meetings, curriculum, school admin bureaucracy & associated office politics etc. just fucking sucks and wears people down who are focused on helping people learn. Too many guardrails and metrics and the teaching takes a backseat to managing it all.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
interesting, thx
_SundayNightDrive@reddit
In 2026 I dont know why anyone would want to go into the education field.
ofnuts@reddit
Done my career in IT as sysadmin, software developer/architect and DevOps engineer. I then took a job on the side to teach programming in an engineering school. That's when you discover that you don't know shit. So your fist move is to take a crash course in something you thought you know in and out, to ease a bit the imposter syndrome. Otherwise, it's a lot more work than you would think, but it feels good when the students thank you at the end(*).
(*) Their last assignment was pretty much the same as the first, so they could figure out how differently they would code the same thing.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Thank you!
DirtComprehensive520@reddit
I teach as a second job at the state college. Solid pay for me anyway. If you can prep your courses fast and prep your lectures. It’s easy peasy. Pay is not good full time compared to corporate in my experience.
Helpjuice@reddit
If you want to teach IT you are way better of doing so outside of the school system as you will be ultra underpaid for the actual value you bring to the market.
Start your own business and create courses teaching what you know is the only sane way to operate. Everything else you get underpaid and undervalued for what you are teaching while the company owns what you make and makes a killing of it while giving you 1/16th of it's value or even less, especially if you are really good.
You can then license your course work out of keep fully on your own platform. If you want your own platform but do not want to build it there are services out there that you can pay a monthly or yearly fee for them to provide one for you to use but there are limitations in the customization going that way.
Either way if you want to teach do it using your own courses that you fully own, it makes zero financial sense to work for a company or institution doing this as your primary source of income as the pay is too low for the value provided.
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Thank you! I was thinking to use school system for a few years to get my speech and pedagogy skill to upgrade. Also for general experience and then go my own route after that. I understand you
Helpjuice@reddit
Skip using the school system all together, 100% waste of your experience and time. If you want to get your speech and pedagogy setup live sessions on discord or youtube or other platform where you can monetize your efforts and get feedback from your students. Any time put into a system that undervalues you is a waste of your time. Skip it and get live feedback unfiltered to make immediate changes and reap the benefits of modern technology. As you going the classic way you will be forever trapped into the imposter syndrome I am not ready yet phase and be at 5 years and a massive financial loss of what you could have been building.
Now after you do your own thing if you want to drop down and do teaching at an institution for instance a special class or course that you license out and get paid for over time by the university that is fine, but do not involve yourself into any agreements or deals that do not appropriately return market rate value back to you over time or give up your IP.
bad_at_eldenring@reddit
@themadinstructor on YouTube did that to MUCH success
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
Absolutely!
RansomStark78@reddit
Trading entitled ppl for
Underage entitled ppl that cant go to jail
Whiswhisth22@reddit (OP)
everything is a trade, got you