ULPT request, Sisters ex won’t leave her alone
Posted by BunchEmotional2974@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 32 comments
My sister has been in a relationship with a young man (both early 20’s). She broke up with him over two months ago. He has basically refused to be broken up with.
She’s doesn’t share a lot with me about it and is private about her relationship, but this is what I have learned from other people in her life and what bit she has shared.
Initially he kept showing up to her house, with flowers, apologies, trying to convince her to take him back. She has a hard time fully being done with someone she cares for so they kept in contact for a few weeks. She told me he started saying mean things to her when she wouldn’t take him back, and eventually told him they could no longer talk.
After a bit, he apologized again, and they started working through a few things and hanging out again.
That was the last I heard and I tried to not get involved. I was at her house with a group of friends earlier this month. I was taking a call on the porch when he marches by quickly, looks at me says “I’m sorry for being here”, then walks right into the home.
Initially I hadn’t thought much of it because I knew they had been in contact again. Then thinking about it I realized that was a bit weird. I peeked in the blinds and didn’t see either of them.
When I walked in I asked my other sibling what was going on and they told me when we had been outside earlier they noticed his vehicle and sister had been worried.
Turns out, sis had blocked him that day because when she refused to continue the relationship he called her over 60x and wouldn’t leave her alone. He had busted into the bathroom while she was on the toilet in a house full of her friends. I don’t know what the conversation was exactly, but she was a bit shaken. He left quickly after I went inside.
He has continued to bombard her on insta (the only place he hasn’t been blocked) until she finally blocked him on that just the other day. Apparently that day he barged in he told her he would see her in 1 month. (Initially this is a time frame she gave of how much space she needed before she had blocked him).
Obviously, as a protective older sibling I am thinking the worst. I do not trust this young man and his obsession makes me extremely nervous. In conversation with her, she doesn’t seem to be too worried about him doing anything to harm her, but I disagree.
I don’t fully remember the context of the conversation, but I believe it was after they broke up he said something along the lines of “is that because you think I’m going to shoot you?”
Please help me come up with ways to scare this fu**er off. I do not want to take chances.
TLDR: sisters ex bf has been stalking her, refusing to take no as an answer, barged into her house, calls endlessly since they broke up. I’m worried it could lead to something more dangerous.
Blunt_but_Honest98@reddit
Welfare check on the lad and get in contact with your local DV charity. They can provide the legal funds if need be.
LilkaLyubov@reddit
As a comment to your update—tell her to leave the presents on the porch. Let either ex or law enforcement handle it. Do not handle it yourselves on the off chance anything is wrong with the packages. This was advice I received when my ex did the same thing. It turned out to be nothing for me, but sometimes you never know. It also swerves as a stronger “no” for your sister if she is young and still learning to say no to this guy. Taking these gifts inside even to just declutter is sometimes a sign to people like the ex that you are accepting the gift, therefore leaving some sort of wiggle room for them. Do your best not to create anything for him to work with while you navigate this.
If she isn’t keeping a log of every event or contact from him, start now.
Bratchan@reddit
CAMERA is the first that you should have on her house or where ever she is living
2 she should not longer engage him at this point. If he at the door dont' answer it etc.
You want him to start trying to be agressive at the door etc, and record it so you have more proof to send to the police. Because they arn't going to do much.
If she is someone who can unblock and never look at messages, good then he will talk himself into problems
As for Unethical. Befriend his parents. Be around his parents house alot. Then start talking about how you have concerns for him. You know following an ex around that happens to be your sister. This way his parents will want to help out to solve this issue.
Catfish him with a new social media account. I live near i think you ex.. i seen the flowers and so on.. makes me jealous i wish i had a BF like you.
BunchEmotional2974@reddit (OP)
I like your ideas. I will get some cameras. I think she has stopped engaging him. I’m not worried about her answering the door to him, he just walked in last time. But I told her and her roommates to keep the doors locked at all times. I will look into his parents. My other sibling know where he lives, and I’ve thought about showing up there.
Miami_Mice2087@reddit
whitepages.com and zillow.com are good ways to find out about people without being physically close to them.
mmmstrongflavors@reddit
Don't play with his personal life. This is way too serious and could easily backfire.
Figure out how you can all support your sister into taking precautions and legal action, but don't directly engage him if you can avoid it. You could easily make this worse.
olivemylife0@reddit
Listen to this OP, I was in a similar situation once. The guy even put a tracking device in my car and kept showing up wherever I went, trying to make it look like he was accidentally bumping into me. Once, twice, three times… I started freaking out.
My brother ended up speaking to his parents but the same day he showed up at my workplace. He saw me leaving the office with a colleague and got into an argument with him demanding I go with him so we could talk. My colleague asked me if I wanted to go and he snapped at him, asking who he thought he was to ask me that and saying it was none of his business.
I tried to de escalate the situation and said it was okay, I could go talk to him. But my colleague refused to let me go which made him even more aggressive and it escalated into a physical fight.
Nothing made him back off except a restraining order. Convince your sister to go down that route, that’s the best option.
Also, don’t let her tell him she’ll take legal action only if he harasses her again, thinking it might scare him off. In reality, that could backfire and escalate things. She should go straight to the police and file a report immediately.
Let her read the comments section here.
Miami_Mice2087@reddit
i'm not smart enough to figure out why you'd want to pretend to be interested in him and a viable new victim on social media? To get his interest onto someone new? To get information out of him? And then generally manipulate him?
Flux_My_Capacitor@reddit
Your sister is in danger of losing her life. Many women are killed when they end a relationship because entitled ass men cannot take “no” for an answer.
BunchEmotional2974@reddit (OP)
Thank you for validating my concern. She has been acting like it’s not that big of a deal other than being annoying. Your comment is the first place my mind went. Especially that he made that comment. That is not a normal thing to say.
cyrusthemarginal@reddit
Time to step up and protect your sis big dog.
thelonelyalien98@reddit
Find out where he lives and put piss dicks through his letterbox
cpo109@reddit
Just a few comments...
Restraining orders can usually only be issued if she is in fear of him harming her.... like he told her he would shoot her - not I'd like to shoot somebody. The pattern of scary behavior might fly, but it's iffy. (I.e. tons of calls per hour, breaking into bathroom, etc.) She has apparently taken him back in some form more than once, so he might think if he keeps it up she will come back to him. What she might have is trespassing (if she told him to not come to her house), destruction of property, and stalking. All of these she would likely need to make the report unless someone witnessed it all.
As for ULPT, maybe balance a gallon of water as bove the door with a string inside like the 3 stooges.
ChiefMeem@reddit
Mail him dead animals with a note in each box of which of his bones will be in it
Monday0987@reddit
Police report
BunchEmotional2974@reddit (OP)
Do you know if I am able to make the police report as a third party? And will he get notified, so he knows they know?
Anagoth9@reddit
She will have to make the report herself.
Apprehensive_Hat8986@reddit
For things she saw yes, but if OP is witnessing unlawful behaviour they can make a report about what they've witnessed.
rojoshow13@reddit
She obviously hasn't watched enough true crime documentaries. Some of those stories about heart broken guys make me suspicious of myself. Seriously, never underestimate what someone could do when they're in that state of mind.
_WickedAverage@reddit
The police report and restraining orders, those are legit things you should do. But you're on UNETHICAL LPTs and as such I expect more from this sub!!
Obviously the solution is you booby trap your sisters house home alone style and when he barges in again he steps on nails, gets tarred and feathered, and paint cans (filled with pee?) swing into him from the ceiling
RiddyReddit333@reddit
Plant drugs on his person (coat jacket). When he leaves, call the cops and report someone driving radically in the neighborhood; suggest they may be drunk or "something." Let the cops do the rest.
i-am-foxymoron@reddit
Two words, "RESTRAINING ORDER"!
This is a situation that piss disks and fucking his mom won't help.
This is a great book that I hope you pass along to your sister. Why Does He Do That?
BunchEmotional2974@reddit (OP)
Thank you for the book suggestion, I will send it to her. I had suggested either restraining or protective order to her and she did not want to do that. She felt it was too extreme. I will try to do more to convince her.
floofienewfie@reddit
Only extreme things will slow down or stop stalkers. Police report needs to be done, like yesterday. Check her car for tracking devices.
OkGate7788@reddit
Lundy Bancroft - it’s a sobering read.
Stalking is a sign of very dangerous behaviour to come. You need to keep notes, screen shots, etc & have the police involved. It’s better to be safe than sorry.
If you’re confident you can beat the shit out of them, that will work too. Make sure you do a stellar job of it & they’re scared shitless.
FlashingAppleby@reddit
I mean this in the nicest way possible but your sister needs to pull her head out of her ass before she gets herself killed. This is a big deal, it's not something to dismiss and she NEEDS to start taking this seriously. Spend a night with her watching true crime docs or something, get it through to he that this needs to be dealt with now and not later. A police report should have already been made when he broke into her house in broad daylight.
HoesLoveMe209@reddit
File a police report. Then you can beat his ass up and the police report is your "get out of jail free" card
doublebubble2022@reddit
Restraining order is definitely something she should get. From behavior described it would be really easy to acquire. Won’t stop harassment right away but will have harsher consequences down the line.
Does he have a job? People that are important to him? I’d visit him there or reach out to his parents/friends. You don’t even need to make shit up, the truth will ruin his reputation, which is probably important to him.
Quite a while ago now my gf at the time had a loser ex like this guy. She got a restraining order which he didn’t care much about. I found his mom and told her about everything he’d done/said. I also went to his work and caused a scene. He got fired. Had to move back in with his mom at 30 something years old. Never saw or heard from him again after that 🤷🏽♂️
BunchEmotional2974@reddit (OP)
Thank you for the suggestions. I am getting on social media right after this to find his family and friends. Thank you for sharing your experience. I love go you handled it. The problem with his work is he usually works in different locations for a week or so at a time. I’ll try to find out where he’s at rn.
two-tail@reddit
You are right to trust your gut. She was right to break up and get away. It's important that she now does everything in her power to stay away.
Agree with other commenter about having both of you read Lundy Bancroft's, "Why Does He Do That?" It's important to understand how folks like this operate so you can better protect yourselves.
I would file a Police Report. The officer will reach out to the other party and tell them to knock it off. If the behavior continues, and it very well may, then you, or better yet, your sister will need to file a Restraining Order.
People like this won't take no for an answer unless someone forces their hand.
Be careful OP. Best of luck to you and sister.
NSWhedonist@reddit
Yeah, I agree. Go legal.
MischievousMystic@reddit