The enough time rule is nonsense. For example the game KotOR was released like 20 years ago but you still wouldn't want to get the cool plotwist spoiled.
Hence the second clause - only discuss when relevant. But if the topic is relevant and others spoiled you can’t be so selfish that you expect everyone else to dance around it.
Gon and Bisky from hunter x hunter . Gon is a little boy and bisky has two forms ; little girl and GIANT AND JACKED, which is her true form . She’s gon’s teacher and looks after him for a bit though
Only tangentially related, but the hero's sister in Fable I. I actually chose to kill her to get the sword, only to later find out that The Lost Chapters version of the game has an even more powerful sword. I am a monster... Though I did have a real hard time deciding.
Id give them an excuse to hate if she was like, Paimon on Genshin.
But her outfit literally covers EVERYTHING
She looks like my youngest sister when she was 3, on winter, you get a big jacket on and all of the child is concealed.
Bro straight up did not care at the end of the game when TK kidnapped that other woman and suggested that he was going to assault her if he didn’t come. He just wanted the zombrex
Because it was such a quality of life increase but completely nullified any difficulty from every monster because you'd just strafe jump around dodging all of their projectiles while shooting them with accurate fire the whole time.
Okay, so, I’m currently finishing up Fallout 4 and I’ve been thinking about playing A Plague Tale next. I tried it once before but I wasn’t really feeling it. Any tips?
Second game was easily my favourite cause of this, the segments where she's collecting Adam and you have to protect her made paternal instincts I didn't know I had kick in and it surprised me quite a bit.
Like a Splicer would land one hit on her and I'd charge at them, drill revving while yelling "STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER!"
I'm playing through the series right now and the second game keeps crashing as soon as more than 5 enemies appear. I couldn't finish the game because the last fight has you fight a horde of enemies lol
Ender lilies, a metroidvania where you are a long lost princess and your attack is a knights spirit defending you (and different spirits as well once you progress, its a great system). Fantastic and niche game
there was a sequel. In terms of story, the firat is better. In terms of gameplay, the second is better.
In terms of music... don't make me choose goddammit
counterpoint: gets better when the little girl is also a violent little gremlin who can largely take care of herself but still likes to stick around her big guy
Man, I really wanted a Mandalorian game that did this kind of thing. Let Grogu tag along in his hover pram, and he would be your "special abilities." S1 feels like it is beat-for-beat the early stage of a game, before letting you off leash to do your thing.
Yeah I hate playing games where you have to protect someone. It's like "why should I stop this villain whos gonna kill millions of people?" Gayyyyy
That's why I just have child in The Sims. Protecting them is a completely optional afterthought. Throw em in a pool or construct an inescapable labyrinth they'll crawl through in vain. No stealth either.
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
I want to see the inverse. Little dudes need protecting too!
Psychogent30@reddit
Take it one step further, give me a big guy protected by little girl
Kinslayer_89@reddit
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
Worthy mention, but David doesn't stay a little dude for long, and Rebecca goes 🖐️
Phazon2000@reddit
Spoilers are generally only ok if.
AND
Your comment fails #2. Booo
MarsasGRG@reddit
The enough time rule is nonsense. For example the game KotOR was released like 20 years ago but you still wouldn't want to get the cool plotwist spoiled.
Phazon2000@reddit
Hence the second clause - only discuss when relevant. But if the topic is relevant and others spoiled you can’t be so selfish that you expect everyone else to dance around it.
MarsasGRG@reddit
Idk, it's not to hard to beware of accidentaly not marking spoilers. Basic internet etiquette.
dexter2011412@reddit
unfortunately for me, who's too lazy to even get off the bed, starting shows, let alone finishing them, is a pita
coltrainjones@reddit
This isn't real life
Phazon2000@reddit
Wtf are you on about?
redboneskirmish@reddit
Fr what the fuck was that for
airfryerfuntime@reddit
Goes slap purple?
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
Splat like a bug
Aydonisgaming@reddit
What relevance did the spoiler have?
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
I dunno, someone griped down below
SheZowRaisedByWolves@reddit
Me at my first college party when a tertiary friendgirl offered me a kit to try heroin (dodged a cannon event and went home)
MZFN@reddit
IamZeus11@reddit
Gon and Bisky from hunter x hunter . Gon is a little boy and bisky has two forms ; little girl and GIANT AND JACKED, which is her true form . She’s gon’s teacher and looks after him for a bit though
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
Yes! I like this one
analog_nika@reddit
close enough
repocin@reddit
Man, the intro sequence for Splatoon 3 was so cool
Sweet_Xocoatl@reddit
Bayonetta 2 is kinda like that with Bayonetta helping out a kid when he gets into trouble though it’s kind of reciprocal.
fischarcher@reddit
Femshep dreaming about that little boy in Mass Effect 3
Survival_R@reddit
TLOU2 was kinda that but only part of it
Wish there was others, at least I cant think of any
BaltarstarGaiustica@reddit
I think one of the telltale walking dead games you play as Clementine taking care of an even younger kid
Nadiadain@reddit
The one with the little black kid? I vaguely remember that one
ItsJustHaven@reddit
Dispatch at some moments
Ciubowski@reddit
You'll be hearing from the anti-woke mob when that gets announced.
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
EEEGuba69@reddit
Imma fire my lazar
fuzzhead12@reddit
Shoop da woop
Play4u@reddit
Brienne of Tarth and Pod the Rod
silentdrestrikesback@reddit
Skybound's Teh Walking Dead final season
InsanityyyyBR@reddit
GIVE ME CHILD SOLDIERS
/s
UnlimitedBoxSpace@reddit
Ok-Examination4225@reddit
plague pale
DiabeticRhino97@reddit
Super Metroid is a big lady trying to rescue a helpless little life sucking parasite
JD0064@reddit
THE BABY
TsunamiCatCakes@reddit
2B and 9S from nier automata. he is such a cutie femboy honestly
ComedyGold13@reddit
wreck it ralph has both
BlurredSight@reddit
It’s usually a brother sister combo (Plague Tales)
fantasticmrben@reddit
Lollipop Chainsaw has that kinda vibe
outfoxingthefoxes@reddit
Literally Ratchet and Clank
AUXID3@reddit
Me an a ham sammich (I made it myself )
Kaidaan@reddit
Big guy, little guy?
KyuremFan646@reddit
this is just a chewed bubblegum in a mechsuit
xX_SkibidiChungus_Xx@reddit
When the little girl is dead at the start so the big guy goes on a schizo murder rampage
is a good contender
Omegaman2010@reddit
My head canon Doom backstory
Iwubwatermelon@reddit
May I present you big titty girl and guns?
Omegaman2010@reddit
Let's let make a thread about that next.
frankiplayer@reddit
Omegaman2010@reddit
Unfortunately for us both, I like crazy.
saketho@reddit
Wake me when you need me 😴
DILDOexe@reddit
I was waiting for this one
MangoAtrocity@reddit
RDR2
Fun1k@reddit
Only tangentially related, but the hero's sister in Fable I. I actually chose to kill her to get the sword, only to later find out that The Lost Chapters version of the game has an even more powerful sword. I am a monster... Though I did have a real hard time deciding.
samzplourde@reddit
Dragonborn and Lydia. The annoying wife who never does anything and never leaves the house.
Slightly-Blasted@reddit
Adject_Ive@reddit
Shame they fucked it up with the second one
Bored_Orangutan@reddit
It really sucks they never made a sequel to TLoU. Imagine what other kinds of adventures Joel and Ellie would have gone through.
Thegamblr@reddit
The best
Kinslayer_89@reddit
Ellie 🥹
Fayraz8729@reddit
What is this? Like a new titanfall game with a child to look after?
OrangeHairedTwink@reddit
Pragmatica
Wk1360@reddit
Good good, be sure not to look up anything about it or talk to anyone who enjoys it.
IAMAHobbitAMA@reddit
Imagine having daddy issues so bad you get angry when other people get excited to play Fatherhood Simulator 🙄
Fyrefanboy@reddit
I think he has more issues with the people sexualizing the little girl
Jose_The_Italian@reddit
Id give them an excuse to hate if she was like, Paimon on Genshin.
But her outfit literally covers EVERYTHING
She looks like my youngest sister when she was 3, on winter, you get a big jacket on and all of the child is concealed.
Fyrefanboy@reddit
It's not the character that is hated but the people sexualizing it
IAMAHobbitAMA@reddit
That's a little different than "don't even talk to anybody who likes the game"
nagareboshi_chan@reddit
I'm not sure about "everyone," but if the stuff I've heard is true, I can't blame you for being cautious.
Burstsword@reddit
Awww is having a good father figure triggering?
Fyrefanboy@reddit
The pedo sexualizing the little girl is what trigger him
JarnoL1ghtning@reddit
I think their issue is that there's seemingly an issue with pedophiles flocking to the fandom. But that's not the game's fault
------------------@reddit
Pragmata. Third person shooter with robots and a little girl companion that can hack stuff. And you’re on the moon. Extremely good game so far
A03EA@reddit
EquivalentSnap@reddit
Bioshock
Bloody-Maria@reddit
Chuck motherfucking Greene and his daughter Katey is my favorite example of this.
Who else but Chuck will fight thousands of zombies all in the name of getting his daughter her medicine?
erectionation@reddit
Ethan Winters.
joko2008@reddit
Joel Miller
Akimbo-Slice@reddit
Ĝĝĝĝĝĝĝĝĝĝĝĝĝvvç)
Bloody-Maria@reddit
I should really play at least one Resident Evil game if I had to look up who that is, I’m terribly not in the know. But I’m too busy playing bingo.
eveningfellow056@reddit
Hmmmm , do you like one liners and doing unnecessary backflips
Bloody-Maria@reddit
I guess you could say I flip between the two.
eveningfellow056@reddit
My bad for ruining the chain
Qritical@reddit
If you played every RE game except 7 and 8, you’d still have no clue who he is lmao
Jay_the_Artisan@reddit
But then you gotta play Shadows of Rose
Bloody-Maria@reddit
Don’t worry, I can watch a video essay about his character and pretend I know who he is.
erectionation@reddit
Bloody-Maria@reddit
Damn straight, then I can go shout “ media literacy! “ at anyone who doesn’t have the exact same interpretations of a character as I do.
erectionation@reddit
eat_my_bowls92@reddit
I feel like such a pussy, but I cried at the end of 8
Nadiadain@reddit
Showing emotion isn’t weak bro Ethan is an absolute god tier father
Sonicmasterxyz@reddit
Why would that make you feel like a pussy? That's just a solid dad moment doing its job
Archonei@reddit
Definitely not a pussy. What a god-tier father.
drugzarecool@reddit
A mold-tier father
DonutGuy2659@reddit
Mold-tier god
neontiger07@reddit
Repressing your emotions would make you more of a pussy than feeling them
erectionation@reddit
me too bro, me too
CORVlN@reddit
Normal guy is literally the bravest MF of all time
crocodilepickle@reddit
Easily solos that chud leon
smellywetsock69@reddit
I love Frank West, but Chuck Greene has always been my favorite Dead Rising protagonist personally. He's cool as hell
SheZowRaisedByWolves@reddit
Bro straight up did not care at the end of the game when TK kidnapped that other woman and suggested that he was going to assault her if he didn’t come. He just wanted the zombrex
johnkubiak@reddit
Frank West would. He's covered wars you know?
Bloody-Maria@reddit
I think he’d go off the record.
GreenFriedTomato@reddit
I thought I was like the only other guy on earth that remembered Dead Rising existed
Usman5432@reddit
The sequel though
spiritofporn@reddit
Boom, nostalgia-shot.
Specialist-Drag6584@reddit
Two dudes yes
But this is basically true
No-Section-4385@reddit
Bio Shock was first.
Real-Order771@reddit
Processing img zprgpycre2wg1...
The_Billy_Dee@reddit
Yeah BT made me feel like a princess 💕
Fight_or_Flight_Club@reddit
real_picklejuice@reddit
Protocol 3: Protect the Pilot
lornlynx89@reddit
Yeet the pilot
Zess_Crowfield@reddit
BT WHAT ARE YOU DOING?!
Turbine2k5@reddit
I just played this last night and honestly it was decent but short. A bit overrated too.
Mautos@reddit
Jack Cooper is my favorite little girl
slwaq@reddit
Level Impossible: Name more corny concept than that
itsyourguy_eli@reddit
RipDove@reddit
Nier Automata is also big girl and little guy she protects. Well, less big and more PhatAsHellPleaseSitOnMyFace.
ItsHighSpoon@reddit
Except 9S is a very capable fighter on his own... he's just not meant for combat
Jose_The_Italian@reddit
Strongest android in every room he steps on, mind you.
outland_king@reddit
OK now do it where the little guy isn't a gay twink.
No-Leadership7206@reddit
What game is this from?
DerpsterPrime@reddit
pseudo and the boy from clash (though, the boy's not really a little girl, is he?)
slop_spotter@reddit
Quitthesht@reddit
Davethemann@reddit
Gotta cut our losses with quark after hes been stuck in the jungle for years
Super_Sankey@reddit
GOAT franchise. Strafing being added from r&c2 onwards saved and ruined these games.
Thezza-D@reddit
How did strafing do either of these things? These games were fucking awesome anyway
Super_Sankey@reddit
Because it was such a quality of life increase but completely nullified any difficulty from every monster because you'd just strafe jump around dodging all of their projectiles while shooting them with accurate fire the whole time.
Thezza-D@reddit
They weren't difficult games anyway... they were kids platformers/shooters
Edstv1@reddit
B’erk
marius_titus@reddit
It's genuinely impressive how they got me to care for a little kid so fast.
Darkeater879@reddit
This was made to boost Japanese birth rates so I hope it does its job
CaptainBubblesMcGee@reddit
thank u shinzy abby
Nadiadain@reddit
I feel like they should start with the ass cheeks work culture they have tbh
Darkeater879@reddit
No, they need to make a video game
SpaceBug176@reddit
Its prolly cuz she's not useless.
Yiannisboi@reddit
untill you play the game and its just marvel tier dialogue blasting every second
Junior_Box_2800@reddit
This made me realize how rare it is to see the other way around in media
AmericaninShenzhen@reddit
Is this subreddit trying to turn into the front page?
JuanHernandes89@reddit
Yes
daedas33@reddit
Person and dog
Wasdey@reddit
If you filter the steam reviews by chinese it's all pedophiles by the way
The1Zenith@reddit
Doom and Animal Crossing coming out on the same day.
Huckleberry_Schorsch@reddit
Verso and Maelle from claire obscure
TechMaster008@reddit
lmao
SnakePisscan@reddit
Realizing they made her Capcom colors. God damnit.
raihidara@reddit
The whole game is super Capcom-coded. There's even a display on Cabin showing Hugh as Mega Man
cumble_bumble@reddit
RE4
LDNSO@reddit
Revelations 2
Spoon_Elemental@reddit
Leon is not a big guy, Leon is a twink.
Nadiadain@reddit
Nah Leon has got nothing on botw link
Spoon_Elemental@reddit
They can both be twinks at the same time, it's not a finite resource.
Nadiadain@reddit
Nuh uh
bioniclepriest@reddit
Do you see how fucking jacked he is? Having medium long hair doesn't make you a twink
ThatDeadeye12@reddit
That's more like skinny guy protect grown ass woman who acts like a little girl.
ColdHooves@reddit
Pragmata has several RE references.
EchoLoco2@reddit
LEON HEEEEELLLLP
SweeterAxis8980@reddit
"No way Leon!"
cumble_bumble@reddit
"Way 💅💅💅"
googlin@reddit
your mom throwing it back
CallMeCaptainAhab@reddit
Nice
MegaGman05@reddit
Ferra & Torr
CallMeCaptainAhab@reddit
Niiiice yes. Taking me back to the good ol days
Hawkedlion@reddit
What is the game referenced in this image?
Pokechap@reddit
god i need to stop procrastinating and keep playing this fucking game, i hate having adhd
the-shoelace@reddit
Not a video game but I recommend between two fires by Christopher Buehlman it’s a fantastic book with this trope
Sugondese--10@reddit
Black souls
Saper-Ja-@reddit
https://i.redd.it/gcvwhwgez5wg1.gif
Boricinha@reddit
Post right above it wtf
Mat_the_Duck_Lord@reddit
One hit of paternal instinct and guys be like:
RYANTHEW1ZARD@reddit
koyomin11235@reddit
A plague tale
PotatoPadavvan@reddit
Okay, so, I’m currently finishing up Fallout 4 and I’ve been thinking about playing A Plague Tale next. I tried it once before but I wasn’t really feeling it. Any tips?
koyomin11235@reddit
use minerals/ammo wisely, especially ignifer
7jinni@reddit
No, not mother-and-son, but big-child-girl-and-small-adult-man.
hagamablabla@reddit
Walking Dead Season 1. They tried doing it again in the later seasons, but the kid was annoying unlike S1 Clementine.
JynFlyn@reddit
zj--@reddit
GladOS and me
Cuzznitt@reddit
Which match up? Big GladOS and you, or you and tiny potato GladOS?
SpaceBug176@reddit
Both.
YoungDiscord@reddit
GruntBlender@reddit
Me and my mommy-daughter potato big sister? I'm still confused how to feel about that potato.
southern_boy@reddit
clap clap clap
Shas_Okar@reddit
Good, that’s still working.
zj--@reddit
Yes
creator-the-hater@reddit
Bored_Orangutan@reddit
Capable-Ad1056@reddit
Never knew bomberman had a daughter
YoungDiscord@reddit
Pop girl
ConnorOfAstora@reddit
Second game was easily my favourite cause of this, the segments where she's collecting Adam and you have to protect her made paternal instincts I didn't know I had kick in and it surprised me quite a bit.
Like a Splicer would land one hit on her and I'd charge at them, drill revving while yelling "STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY DAUGHTER!"
DedOriginalCancer@reddit
I'm playing through the series right now and the second game keeps crashing as soon as more than 5 enemies appear. I couldn't finish the game because the last fight has you fight a horde of enemies lol
markuspeloquin@reddit
Hop hop, Mr B. No time to waste!
DarkScorpion48@reddit
The OG
ChosenCourier13@reddit
SkooDaQueen@reddit
There is no cuter dynamic. Sadly enough there will always be creeps that are too much into this dynamic
St1cks@reddit
Leon the Professional
SpezIsAGayMfer@reddit
Yeah; this game hit me when i discovered what it's actually about. Cool reversal on this trope tho. *
SpezIsAGayMfer@reddit
Yeah; this game hit me when i discovered what it's actually about.
Vortex04119@reddit
iSeize@reddit
I like the guy with legs and no arms teaming up with the guy with arms and no legs
Voodoo_Tiki@reddit
The only thing I know or have seen about that game is pedos fawning iver the little robot girl.
Overdrive1221@reddit
zaedo@reddit
Lee and Clementine from Telltale's The Walking Dead
Philipp4@reddit
Ender lilies, a metroidvania where you are a long lost princess and your attack is a knights spirit defending you (and different spirits as well once you progress, its a great system). Fantastic and niche game
GreenRiot@reddit
Guys just want one thing and it's disgusting. /j
To be open, emotional, protective and caring towards someone who will love them back without judgement.
The first time they can do that is sadly when they see themselves as fathers/uncles. So that kind of makes sense.
ZZTMF@reddit
Funnier if the little girl is a nuisance antagonist
budde04@reddit
GoldenGlobeWinnerRDJ@reddit
Bioshock did it better
koyomin11235@reddit
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgZ7Ox6-nNpKItGzNfNCKKm19XlRAU2WAxx-9rrRB8XuZDgslJUHGXDBnSZ7J9pBIVl99L2XEQYBJVn9NcHdoZ2NBBqT6rGnIjW_6ag-I6&s=10
A plague tale has genders swapped but still one of my fav dynamics oatl
ISwearImAnonymous@reddit
Small cat protect big dude
TDuckyboi@reddit
Umbral Knight and Lily
Tha_NexT@reddit
Where are his feet? Is that Ai gen lmao
Fouxs@reddit
Homie is the kind of person to look at an irl aquarium and say it's all AI because the fish got no feet.
KaiFireborn21@reddit
An IQ too high? He’s obviously a ghost…
dicedvidalia@reddit
He’s a ghost/spirit called by Lily. Pretty cool game. She can have up to 3 different spirits to battle with.
Dogpilekid@reddit
there was a sequel. In terms of story, the firat is better. In terms of gameplay, the second is better. In terms of music... don't make me choose goddammit
TheOutcast06@reddit
ENDER LILIES MENTIONED
dovah-meme@reddit
counterpoint: gets better when the little girl is also a violent little gremlin who can largely take care of herself but still likes to stick around her big guy
(Ferra & Torr, Mortal Kombat)
Wondergrey@reddit
Nexii801@reddit
So based
ikkju@reddit
The whole game gave me Wreck It Ralph vibes
Nexii801@reddit
Supersoldier and AIILF
Too-many-Bees@reddit
The demo was amazing
Thornn05@reddit
kratos and his boy
ANGLVD3TH@reddit
Man, I really wanted a Mandalorian game that did this kind of thing. Let Grogu tag along in his hover pram, and he would be your "special abilities." S1 feels like it is beat-for-beat the early stage of a game, before letting you off leash to do your thing.
lNVAGlNAWETHRUST@reddit
Kenpachi zaraki from bleach
ANGLVD3TH@reddit
That one gets totally inverted in the end though.
DripRoast@reddit
This whole post feels like some kind of slimy viral marketing attempt.
shurdi3@reddit
Ruined Alcoholic Superstar Detective
Clean cut detective
Someguy14201@reddit
Feels like they tried to copy Death Stranding imo
TrueDiver7425@reddit
Im more fond of a little cute girl who's an absolute monster and a big buff guy who's marshmallows and puppies inside.
bacon4bfast@reddit
Wait I've seen this before...
Tanmay_Terminator@reddit
Bioshock, last of us, and plague tale
MyOtherCarIsEpona@reddit
Raubahn and Nanamo
Tomahawkist@reddit
is that a rimworld cataphract?
CumInYoBum99@reddit
Called_end@reddit
Barry fucking Burton and Natalia no-Wesker
element-redshaw@reddit
Game seems cool, shame the fan base is…yeah
HateRunsInMyVeins@reddit
Lee and Clementine perhaps.
hyvox@reddit
Man and dog/pet
Rando_Kalrissian@reddit
Cyber ninja pulling out spines beats this every day of the week.
glam-af@reddit
Is that toka=paint?
AlvoSil@reddit
SANABI is such an amazing game about just that
Subnautican@reddit
Big girl, lil guy she protects
DaedricWorldEater@reddit
Cable, anyone?
Argentarius1@reddit
Dishonored and Bioshock scratched that itch so well I stg.
Maay444@reddit
Average middle aged bloke protecting his cat would be a winner
hazysin@reddit
Well that’s just Dungeon Crawler Carl
cocovenomnomnom95@reddit
Literally me and my boyfriend
MrNubbyNubs@reddit
Subject Delta and Eleanor
tortillaturban@reddit
Fetus and regular size man kinda counts
destroyerOfTards@reddit
Funky fetus and Norman reedus
Expensive_Drawing_63@reddit
Lisa the Painful.
SNAKEKINGYO@reddit
Allen and Zoe from Invincible season 4
GruntBlender@reddit
All the joys of being a parent without having to clean up poop.
Ok_Two_2604@reddit
Any form of protecting is always the worst play dynamics other than stealing.
RYANTHEW1ZARD@reddit
Yeah I hate playing games where you have to protect someone. It's like "why should I stop this villain whos gonna kill millions of people?" Gayyyyy
That's why I just have child in The Sims. Protecting them is a completely optional afterthought. Throw em in a pool or construct an inescapable labyrinth they'll crawl through in vain. No stealth either.
SenpaiMayNotice@reddit
How about little guy protecting little girl?
(+bonus mutant onion baby)
Game: Breath of Fire 3
thewhimsicalbard@reddit
Commander Shepard and Tali
Laranel@reddit
McMaker101@reddit
LISA THE PAINFUL
addlex01@reddit
Now give the little girl a giant weapon
genericmediocrename@reddit
Processing img q4zz6rw4o2wg1...
JacobCass40@reddit
Lee and Clementine
Awesome_Alan4ever@reddit
RelevantBee7856@reddit
Literally anything else
ThebirdGretel@reddit
An interesting relationship
dumbassthathasreddit@reddit
i know the guy who made this art
SaltyPen6629@reddit
What if the genders were swapped
BobSacamano47@reddit
Bond and Natalia
theGaido@reddit
Lutece twins.
CptSalsa@reddit
The squad of 4