Do you think Americans would ever focus far more on soccer?
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It’s awesome to see the MLS grow but I feel the US still prioritises NFL and basketball etc. I mean as an Aussie I haven’t missed a Super Bowl so it makes sense.
I do wonder though, with the talent you have if more athletes chose soccer the US could be a powerhouse competing for World Cup wins.
ManufacturerDull4689@reddit
Americans have been told that soccer will be the next big thing in America since the 1960’s. It’s 2026 and soccer so far is about the 8th most popular sport in the country.
mountainskylove@reddit
Except if you go off youth participation soccer is way more popular than football, so I don’t think that’s necessarily accurate. Professional viewership isn’t the same as participation.
Bobcat2013@reddit
Oh gee that explains why Soccer viewership blows football out of the water!!
mountainskylove@reddit
I know this, but clearly the person I was responding to doesn’t understand that soccer is the most popular sport in the world. Plus, the original question was about soccer in the US, not the world.
Bobcat2013@reddit
Yes so why is the world relevant here?
mountainskylove@reddit
The sub is about the world asking Americans things…. So the world IS relevant here.
Bobcat2013@reddit
Not when theyre asking about the state of Soccer in AMERICA
ManufacturerDull4689@reddit
That’s because youth soccer is known as the sport you enroll your kids in when your kids aren’t good at any of the other sports. Until that stereotype disappears there will be a stigma towards soccer.
mountainskylove@reddit
I disagree entirely, but you are entitled to your opinion. Also, they are just called cleats, not “shoes with cleats”.
SabresBills69@reddit
no— why—- because the best league isn’t in North America.
look at what pros make in football, basketball, baseball, and ice hockey
MLS generally don’t make that kind of money.
if they had a league that pays American soccer pros what other leagues get and they can stay here thrn you have the athletes moving to soccer
Bobcat2013@reddit
Even if the best league was in NA its not like people would flock to see it in droves. The average MLS players skill compared to an EPL player is not going to be noticeably different to the average person. Heck CFB is massively popular despite being a big step down in quality from the NFL. Soccer is just boring af to most people.
SabresBills69@reddit
CFB is popular because it is the only thing in town in many of these locations
Soccer has gained popularity. Think it like basketball...if you had the best players in the world you would go out and see them.
If players coukd make these high salaries they would choose pro soccer over other sports.
I look back at this as the first world sport league if the NHL.
Back in the 70s/ early 80s there wasn't many from outside Canada. As expansion in USA occurred you had more players going with the sport. Also at that time, only about 1 on average were from Europe. You need a certain personality to do that. As we get into the 90s more European players start to come to North America first because salaries were there.
Right now not many Americans go to Europe to play pro soccer because its a bigger sacrafice
Bobcat2013@reddit
2.Kids dont choose to play football over soccer in middle school because they think "id rather make millions in the NFL". Most sane kids and parents dont even have the NFL on their radar
They do it because their friends do it, the girls like it, and most importantly its fun.
SabresBills69@reddit
I’m talking if you are a high schooler and a very good athlete who play in 2-3 sports and you have college scholarship offers in football, baseball, and soccer/ basketball. You are thinking of maybe being a pro and making millions. You might be good enough in baseball to get drafted At 18. You start thinking of becoming a pro.
Bobcat2013@reddit
Oh say less, you really dont know how recruiting works.
The amount of kids getting scholarship offers in multiple sports is so miniscule that this isn't a decision or option that many kids face. More often than not a kid is making a choice to specialize in a sport by the time they hit freshman year. They might play other sports but only for fun. Besides that D1 men's soccer hardly exists relative to the other sports. So few schools sponsor it that its hardly an option. That being said if one does have the ability to get a scholarship in a sport outside of football they likely spend so much time playing on club, travel, aau teams that they dont have time to play another.
I follow college football recruiting for my school pretty heavily and we have had 2 kids that did baseball and football in my 16 years of following the team and have yet to see any other combinations.
Even if a soccer kid did want to switch to football his junior year it would be too late. He would be so behind his teammates that he wouldnt get looked at by any colleges. Soccer doesn't really translate to football that well so you dont see a whole lot of kids doing both at even the high school varsity level.
badger_on_fire@reddit
I was joking with somebody about this the other day, but could you imagine how dominant that the US would be if we actually DID focus more on soccer? Seriously, imagine LeBron as a sweeper keeper.
Imagine you break the midfield and a 6'9, 250 pound human wall comes sprinting right at you faster than it has any right to be able to do so.
This is a terrifying scenario for a striker. Seriously -- What do you do? Under most circumstances, you got the option to chip it, or maybe try to juke the keeper, but those are not options against LeBron.
Bobcat2013@reddit
I've seen so many people try to make the case for soccer players athleticism vs other sports. Obviously soccer players are athletic, but their athleticism doesn't really translate to other sports as opposed to football or basketball players
Flashy-Specific-4083@reddit
Never. The NFL is the most popular sport by a country mile and I could argue that college football is the second most popular.
Bobcat2013@reddit
No argument. CFB is absolutely massive. Dwarfs MLB and NBA.
BippidiBoppetyBoob@reddit
Honestly, no. It may grow, but I don’t think it’s going to eclipse football or basketball.
SenorMcGibblets@reddit
The MLB has been beating out the NBA in viewership in recent years. I don’t think soccer overtakes baseball or even hockey anytime soon either.
As a casual fan of European soccer and someone willing to watch or attend the occasional MLS game, the quality of the professional game here just isn’t as good as the top leagues in the world. The top leagues with the best players in the world generally play at inconvenient times and the leagues are hard to follow because of a limited number of games being easily accessible for us to watch. Whereas the NFL, NBA, MLB, and NHL all attract that best players in the world, games are generally easily accessible, most of the population of the country lives within a reasonable enough distance to be able to attend games in person at least occasionally.
BippidiBoppetyBoob@reddit
Me, personally, I don’t care about a sport unless Pittsburgh has a team, so amusingly enough, I care more about soccer than basketball because we have the USL Riverhounds and no basketball team.
DeadMemesNowPlease@reddit
Before now basketball was king, baseball was king. NFL will be around in some sort of form but in a future with no end in the timeline something else will become king of sport/entertainment. At some point in the future it might be soccer.
GeneralZane@reddit
What the fuck is a Soccer???
DMfortinyplayers@reddit
I think the NFL would have to majorly drop the ball for another sport to have a shot. Like a year+ strike or something.
Football starts being a thing at a local level in high school. In small towns it's not uncommon for people to who aren't students or don't have kids in school to go to the local high school football game. College teams are looking at 16 and 17 year olds.
It's baked in.
Disastrous-Cat2840@reddit
I certainly hope so and definitely thing it's a possibility. Personally, I hope American football dies here.
Bobcat2013@reddit
So edgy.....
Disastrous-Cat2840@reddit
Why is that edgy? It's a terrible sport, 2 hour games with 10 minutes of action and an insane injury rate.
Angry_GorillaBS@reddit
I still haven't figured out why the rest of the world focuses on it.
JoeMorgue@reddit
Because the cost of entry is minuscule compared to almost every other sport.
I'm serious I literally think that's it. You need a flat grass field, two goals, and a ball.
Finndogs@reddit
You dont even need the grass
the_vole@reddit
I feel like a more nuanced take is important. Obviously, the replies in this thread are telling the tale of most Americans take on the subject. That said, I’ve found that most MLS fans are very MLS fans, myself included.
15 years ago, when I told people I watch F1, they’d say “why?” Nowadays, people care a lot more about it. I’m not saying soccer will ever have a similar tipping point, but stranger things have happened.
FreeStateOfPortland@reddit
It’s definitely grown more popular. I’ve been a baseball and football fan why whole life and I’m a new season ticket holder with the Portland Timbers.
That said, it’s not going to eclipse football, basketball, and baseball anytime soon.
MonsieurRuffles@reddit
I remember the OG Portland Timbers back when soccer was going to be the next big thing in the 70s.
FreeStateOfPortland@reddit
The Timbers are pretty big in Portland now. They average 22k per game and the Trailblazers average 23k per game
MonsieurRuffles@reddit
Back in the 70s, I attended professional soccer games with crowds of over 60k. (And MLS plays much fewer games than the NBA.)
machagogo@reddit
Ever is a long time, so difficult to say, but not any time soon. Not when there are far better opportunities be it scholarships and/or money to be made here in other sports.
Most kids play soccer, and give it up as they get older as other sports are seen as "better" I gave it up when I got to high school for hockey, my son did the same. Others and more commonly would be for basketball, baseball, football, etc etc.
SSweetSauce@reddit
Hokey is as low on the totem poll as soccer, maybe a couple of notches higher.
machagogo@reddit
Hence.
foxsable@reddit
I feel like soccer has a lot of back and forth, like tennis. It is very back and forth. Compare that to football where you build up to a concerted push, or baseball where a lot is riding on each time at bat with people waiting on bases. Those feel more America .
Salty_Permit4437@reddit
I really hate that America is now trying to be a footballing country. American loudmouths are now saying the sport is too boring has to be more like hand egg. WTF?
Bobcat2013@reddit
Just now? No, we've been saying that for decades probably
kshucker@reddit
I’ve played soccer my entire life in the US. It all boils down to advertising and what is accessible to kids. NFL has been ingrained into the US sports mind here in the US. Playing a sport growing up means using your hands. Whether it be basketball, baseball, heck even hockey or lacrosse, you use your hands. Feet here in America are meant for running. Hands are meant for holding. That’s just the mentality that’s here. All a kid knows growing up is holding a ball of some sort. You introduce kicking a ball without being able to put their hands on it and they can’t comprehend it
Away_Analyst_3107@reddit
No. First, is pacing. Even though I find football to be terribly slow, the physical plays only takes a few seconds, and basketball has a shot clock. Soccer is a lot of build-up for minimal shots.
And then second is the commercialization of it. Football and basketball both have many stoppages, allowing for commercials to be played. Soccer is not as easy to advertise during, so I’d imagine tv stations are less willing to give soccer airtime when they can make major profits from advertisements during other sports. You would have to add multiple media timeouts per half to make it even close
Adjective-Noun123456@reddit
I seriously doubt it.
To put things into perspective, I'm in a county of 2 million people that's technically part of the Miami Metropolitan area. I'm a sports guy.
I only learned Miami even had a soccer team a few years ago. Apparently they even brought some big name athletes over from Europe to play on it.
I have yet to see a single piece of the Miami Whoever's merch. Even on kids. And I work at a school.
sadthrow104@reddit
Apparently Phoenix’s soccer team has an African coach that can speak Norwegian and has a wide array of non American players from all over African and Europe
Adorable_Dust3799@reddit
I think it's partly generational. When i was a kid in the 70s it was really new, and i didn't know anyone who played. Now all the kids play. I did expect it to grow faster than it has, but give it more time. But then i dont understand anyone who allows their kids to play american football, and that's still around
MasterPalpitation8@reddit
Remember that boxing was once americas biggest sport in the 1920s but faded in popularity because of its reputation for excessive brutality. I feel that American football is facing a similar decline, as fewer parents sign their sons up to play a game whose health risks are now undeniable. So there’s an opening for a new big sport, and I think soccer has the best odds (compared to basketball, you don’t have to be a genetic outlier to exceed in soccer—soccer stars come in all different heights and body shapes, so it’s more accessible).
KeyInitiative8805@reddit
Countries are good at the sports they're good at because those were sports developed for and by and made up of poor people. Baseball: a stick, a ball, and a meadow or empty lot. Basketball, inner city black kids playing in the park. Etc.
Soccer in the US never quite got the same treatment because it was never adopted by the poor and marginalized at a mass scale. In Argentina, you get rags and stuff them into a sock to make a ball, put up two cones and you have a street game. Laborers played them on the dock yards of the Rio de La Plata. Militant labor unions formed the first semi professional clubs and leagues.
Soccer in the US was either a middle class sport where semi well off kids got driven in vans from the burbs to games, ate oranges at half time, and had pizza after. Not like Maradona sniffing glue and skipping school to play futbol.
Until and unless it becomes the sport of the poor and marginalized, the US won't be dominant in it.
Internationally too, a system developed with commonalities across the globe that continue unshared with the US.
Finally, where Soccer has taken root is as a way of complying with title 9 and funded by schools in the form of girls and women's soccer. That's why the US is a dominant women's soccer country. Because many women got scholarships to play soccer so that colleges or high schools weren't sued due to a lack of women's extracurricular activities.
winnielikethepooh15@reddit
No.
MidtownFrown@reddit
No, its a child's sport. And the sissy flops they do and fake injuries isn't cool.
mdburn_em@reddit
LeBron enters the chat..
bansheesho@reddit
No, I think it will grow. They are building FC stadiums in a lot of cities. I don't know. It's just missing something. For me it seems more interesting to do it on ice and put pads on and hit people.
Dystopic_Panda@reddit
I mean, it is bigger now than it's ever been. My dad told me once that he never even remembered hearing about the World Cup, much less actually watching it, until he was in his 40's in the 1990s.
Of course it's all relative, and it's nowhere near basketball or NFL or baseball levels, but people are used to it being around and on at bars. It's not like cricket or ping pong..
NorwegianSteam@reddit
Soccer is the sport of the future for America, and it always will be.
jeremyw0918@reddit
Haha good one!
MidtownFrown@reddit
Not now that the border is closed.
EnlightenedCorncob@reddit
Right after ping pong
SeaRevolutionary1450@reddit
More than we do now? Sure maybe. More than our other major sports? No, pretty hard to imagine that. I could see us improving in our World Cup performances without it becoming a top sport, I could see it take a solid step ahead of the more niche sports and refine its development system a bit so we can make some small steps forward.
Positive-Avocado-881@reddit
No I genuinely don’t have time to watch another sport.
Either-Youth9618@reddit
The US already wins World Cups.
Key-Satisfaction-267@reddit (OP)
Dam you’re right, that was thoughtless of me sorry
Either-Youth9618@reddit
Thank you for acknowledging this!
gummibearhawk@reddit
No.
Especially because the soccer tradition of flopping puts off a lot of people
AggravatingCut7596@reddit
I’m watching an MLS game right now!
Appropriate-Food1757@reddit
Only if forced to
Rare_Independent_814@reddit
No
CamBam9876@reddit
To be perfectly honest as someone who loves soccer, no.
While MLS teams have become very popular in select cities, MLS, and USSoccer as a whole seem to be trying to do everything the wrong way to grow the sport imo. They’re too focused on trying to turn MLS into another NFL/MLB franchise style sports league instead of adapting to the league structure that makes European football so much better.
Far_Silver@reddit
Soccer is bigger in America than you might think from the outside looking in. It's very popular with kids, but you wouldn't notice unless you were a kid, parent, or teacher. Also our women's soccer team is the best in the world.
AuggieNorth@reddit
It will never top American football in popularity. Most of us find it a little tedious, quite often 90 minutes without any scoring. There doesn't seem like enough to talk about all week between games compared to our football, which can fill up hours of programming every week.
JoeMorgue@reddit
Other countries literally can't percieve of anyone not enjoying soccer or Whatsapp.
elenchusis@reddit
Soccer won't really catch on here because there are no commercial breaks. Capitalism is god
net_zer0@reddit
Honestly, I think soccer might be a tad too "old world" to catch on majorly in the States. I feel the same about rugby even though I absolutely love the sport. The US in general tends to distance itself from most things considered too European. It's half the reason colonizers came here in the first place.
Deolater@reddit
I feel like it has been "the next big thing" all my life.
To get me into it, it would have to become a major college sport, which I don't see happening
shelwood46@reddit
My college, way back in the 1970s and still does, only has soccer not football. It does not help. Everyone associated with the school is just really into their basketball teams.
G00dSh0tJans0n@reddit
Yeah for many schools soccer not only ranks behind football and basketball, but also behind ice hockey, baseball, softball, and volleyball. Hell even behind gymnastics
little_runner_boy@reddit
And to become a major college sport, it'll need to be a major professional sport
1952Rustbelt@reddit
I hope not. Let it stay a niche sport, ranking below golf.
I've tried several times to watch it, but find it boring: a lot of jockeying for position that adds up to so much waste motion.
Trick_Photograph9758@reddit
Maybe 100 years from now. Soccer is slightly more popular in the US now than 30 years ago, but in general, it's still a niche sport and young kids don't play it seriously.
Pointlessname123321@reddit
As good as the women’s team has been it would take the men making a couple of WC finals, and probably winning one of them, for soccer to even have a chance to truly take over from baseball/basketball. American football is number 1 in this country and I don’t think anything could overcome that one. It’s just too big with advertising and media
siestarrific@reddit
I mean, the USWNT is a soccer powerhouse already. On the men's side, sure, the US could become a soccer powerhouse, but you'd have to see a significant cultural shift before young men start choosing soccer over basketball, football, and baseball regularly enough to develop a strong, deep talent pool.
icehead1@reddit
I absolutely love soccer. It’s my second favorite sport to American football. I think it’s an amazing game and I’m a big fan, mainly of the Premier League. As much as I want it to become popular, I don’t think it will.
savguy6@reddit
There’s too many options for other sports for kids to play.
It’s entirely too expensive for kids to play.
Our youth system as it is set up will continue to produce under performing players, and we’ll never really be able to compete on the world stage until that changes.
If all that changes and we make deep runs into world cups or ever win one, no, soccer will never be as big as the other sports.
And this is coming from a lifelong soccer fan.
Adorable-East-2276@reddit
Professional team sports isn’t even 150 yet. We have no clue
Meekanado@reddit
No
shelwood46@reddit
Nope.
Ill-Daikon-5637@reddit
The kids do soccer every week, that's enough
anneofgraygardens@reddit
it's definitely grown in popularity throughout my life so it feels very plausible that it could grow more in popularity. so, sure.
QuarterNote44@reddit
Sure, maybe in 100 years when most people in America are descendants of LatAm people and Africans. I bet Cricket explodes too.