M365 Backup at Scale (~150TB) – AvePoint vs alternatives?
Posted by Smile4menow84@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 43 comments
After \~2 years of pushing internally, I’ve finally got budget approved for a proper M365 backup solution.
Our environment is fairly large:
\~140TB across Exchange + OneDrive
\~8TB SharePoint
A lot of this is sitting in OneDrive Plan 2 accounts (25TB each) acting as “cold storage” for media
I’ve been testing a few options:
Veeam
AFI.ai
AvePoint
Where I’ve landed so far: AvePoint is currently the front runner purely because of pricing model. It doesn’t care about data size — just licenses per object.
£3.30 per object
\~330 objects total
\~£1,089/month
Shared mailboxes included
At our scale, that pricing model just works.
The problem: I’m really not a fan of AvePoint’s restore experience. It feels clunky and in some cases requires downloading data locally and re-uploading, which isn’t ideal.
AFI.ai actually felt much better from a product perspective (especially restores), but their data-based pricing just doesn’t scale for us. Costs get out of hand quickly.
What I’m trying to figure out:
Is there anything else out there at a similar price point that handles large data volumes well?
Ideally with a better restore experience?
How are others handling restores at this scale — is the download/re-upload approach just the reality here?
Would appreciate any real-world feedback before I lock this in.
SecrITSociety@reddit
Veeam has a new cloud offering they're pitching us that's per user priced/unlimited storage that would run us about $30k/year for 750+ users. Was this a part of your discussion with them, or was it just licensing for their on-prem solution?
individual101@reddit
Yea the Veeam Data Cloud. They tried getting us to move to it too. We currently run to an on prem Minio object storage and send a copy to Wasabi
SecrITSociety@reddit
Just FYI, Might want to reconsider Wasabi, soo many data corruption events last year 😯
individual101@reddit
Oh I didn't hear about those
SecrITSociety@reddit
They were not really forthcoming, Veeam gave us more info than Wasabi did 🙄
Here's a relevant thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/msp/s/Lwk3jVy0Bg
jstuart-tech@reddit
We sell https://1111systems.com/services/cloud-backup-microsoft-365/ at work and it's fine, apparently uses Veeam in the backend. Should fit your pricing as well (They have a calculator on the website)
Elensea@reddit
Just sat through a demo with proof point a they were big on the unlimited archive. I didnt need it so we went with avanan. Here’s the brochure though. https://www.proofpoint-total-protection.com/app/uploads/2025/12/365TBackup_Factsheet_us.pdf
Difficultopin@reddit
Metallic
MysticalNinja1991@reddit
Avepoint or Ruberik
H2CO3HCO3@reddit
u/Smile4menow84, you submitted the same question on a different x-post and since I've already replied to your question in your other post, I will point you there instead:
https://reddit.com/r/Backup/comments/1spd28e/m365_backup_at_scale_150tb_avepoint_vs/
joeprettyman10@reddit
Where I work, we use Datto SaaS protection There are multiple retention options Pricing is per user, no limit on data Shared mailboxes and sharepoint included at no additional cost. Only caviot I can think of is the OneDrive Plan 2. If a user only has that license (ie no exchange license), then you will be billed for a user, but if the user is licensed for P2 and Exchange, then it is covered under 1 cost.
JeroenPot@reddit
I would go for acronis or dropsuite.
Parity99@reddit
I'm using AvePoint, at larger scale than your environment and have just renewed for 3 more years. Have never had to restore local then upload. This covers, EOL, SPOL, PowerPlatform etc, Teams data, the works.
ShadowKnight45@reddit
This. Curious where OP is encountering export then upload. AFAIK only a few niche Power Platform backups require this.
Legionof1@reddit
Could just get a Synology and keep a local backup
Ok-Butterscotch-4858@reddit
This!
2 years back brought 2x with 100tb raid 5 works a treat.
Was about £5500 each but definitely worth it.
SalzigHund@reddit
How long does it take to rebuild the RAID when a drive dies?
Ok-Butterscotch-4858@reddit
To be honest I’m not really sure lol. I’ve done it once actually and maybe 3ish days? I didn’t want to bother and wasn’t bothered so plugged in made sure it was doing a rebuild and left it. It’s the RS1221+
SalzigHund@reddit
I’m guessing they are relatively fast drives then? We took over a Synology loaded with 5400 RPM 8 TB drives and the rebuild took a week
Ok-Butterscotch-4858@reddit
These Toshiba MG08ACA16TE 16TB 7.2K 512M 3.5" SATA Enterprise NAS Hard Drive 16TB
SalzigHund@reddit
Appreciate you
Ok-Butterscotch-4858@reddit
No worries!
Ok-Butterscotch-4858@reddit
It’s the Toshiba MG Enterprise Capacity ones.
ofd227@reddit
They had a breach (which happens) but devices to.try and downplay it (which is bad. Take that for what you will
mdj@reddit
Full disclosure: I work for Cohesity.
We have Cohesity Cloud Services for a Backup-as-a-Service solution with a range of per-user licenses (10GB, 20GB, 50GB Front End data size per user) so you can mix and match to get the "right" amount of data for your user count. I've never seen a situation where we had to download data locally to restore it, and we have customers with significantly larger M365 estates than you describe. There's a 30 day free trial you can request from our website.
We also support protecting the data in AWS instead of Azure if you want, and support scanning the backed up data for IOCs.
Secret_Account07@reddit
So we just recently migrated to Cohesity after many years using TSM for VE (garbage product) and I’ve been impressed.
It’s technically IBM storage defender but I believe it’s all Cohesity under the hood.
I’m a fan. Full VM and file restore work flawlessly. With our last product a 1TB VM restore could take over a day. Now it can be done in a few hours.
I’m not involved in pricing so can’t speak to that but it’s great. We have a lot of objects too. PBs of VMs.
Cormacolinde@reddit
I was about to mention Cohesity! I work for a Cohesity Cloud partner and it’s really good and reasonably priced. We have been moving away from competitors because Cohesity is just much better.
thefpspower@reddit
N-able Cove for 365 is direct to cloud in my experience and its quite good now, before people didn't like it because it didn't export PSTs, now it does.
I think they work as a storage pool per use though, so if you have 200 users you'd have a pool of 200TB for whatever, if that's valid for you maybe ask for a demo and see if you like the restore experience.
blasted_heath@reddit
We get Cove from our MSP. It has been nothing but a dumpster fire. Took 7 months to do our initial backup. Sync is slow and takes multiple days for our exchange environment to complete. Currently starting the process of getting our contract cancelled and getting a refund for 1.5 years of licensing a product that we've not even been able to do a DR test with.
Secret_Account07@reddit
Jesus, 7 months?
How many TBs is that?
thefpspower@reddit
Damn 7 months is disasterous! How big is your 365?
It has worked just fine for us but we're not that big.
Smile4menow84@reddit (OP)
Ha, Snap
I'm currently running my first full backup using a 31 day trial on N-able Cove.
UI looks nice.
Just need to check how restores work and what pricing will be like.
Joyrenee22@reddit
Dell has a something called power protect backup service (it's just druva behind the scenes, OEM agreement) that does great m365 backups, based on user, worth a look. Obligatory I work for Dell
sryan2k1@reddit
Druva all day.
DrMacintosh01@reddit
Man, pull the cold storage media out of OneDrive! Get that shit local on a Synology. Doing this would drastically reduce the M365 backup size requirements. Hell, a Synology NAS can be the M365 backup solution.
mattiasso@reddit
There’s Keepit as well
BearcatPyramid@reddit
I thought SaaS was going to make our lives easier by costing less and not requiring things like backup infrastructure. /s
Some_Team9618@reddit
Would Microsoft’s own backup work? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/backup/backup-overview?view=o365-worldwide
cubic_sq@reddit
Street price for most providers is around €1.30 / licensed user in the tenant and allows for 500GB to 1TB per user, depending on the solution.
Also - synology boxes have license free 365 backup (we use this as a second backup).
Smile4menow84@reddit (OP)
What systems are that price?
Smile4menow84@reddit (OP)
That's not an option for us. I would need at least 500TB usable data. Cloud backup only.
Antoine-UY@reddit
Many companies sell "seats" (unlimited size) for Acronis CyberProtect.
Smile4menow84@reddit (OP)
What's the real world scenario like using this? How are restores.
Acronis, I'll check them out....