which ai max 395 mini pc is the best for a server configuration ?
Posted by cranberrie_sauce@reddit | LocalLLaMA | View on Reddit | 11 comments
which ai max 395 mini pc is the best for a server configuration ?
I want to use it in a colocation environment (endoffice).
I would buy the Minisforum MS-S1 Max, but they dont sell it anymore unfortunately - what other ones I an buy?
ravage382@reddit
Maybe you could find a compatible case for the Framework desktop 395 board.
ImportancePitiful795@reddit
At $3000 (€3100) the Framework PCB only is HORRIBLE value.
ravage382@reddit
I didn't realize that was what they were up to. I got mine at $2k. Pretty good value at that price point.
ImportancePitiful795@reddit
Yep. It was good value last year. But not now. Neither is the X2. ☹️
ImportancePitiful795@reddit
Well Bosgame M5 is tad smaller than 2U. Enough to put 4 plastic feet under it to keep it elevated if the rack you plan to use it is solid without gaps.
Almost 10 different models use the same PCB and all of them are the same size. Imho get the cheapest one.
Btw on the Strix Halo discord channel you will find discussions there of 3d printed case replacements, modifications etc.
I am sure around November there was a full 2U 3d printed case hosting 2 of these (bare PCBs with just the coolers and with the power bricks in it), specifically to be used in a rack mount.
bitserv-ai@reddit
Most of those Max 395 mini pcs have the same Chinese mainboard
Except for the HP mini workstation and the Framework
That said I'm very happy with the Bosgame M5
Will easily fit 2U but you might want to cool the external PSU in a colo environment
Thermals of the mini pc itself should be fine
Think in a colo environment I'd simply put the whole thing in a 2U case with some 80mm fans at the front and call it a day
cranberrie_sauce@reddit (OP)
I was worried more about making sure it does not suspend or sleep. Minisforum MS-S1 Max had that option in the settings: "datacenter mode" - which I presume absolute no "green" features, maximum power etc. I guess it probably shouldn't sleep if I slap normal server distro on it.
> > Think in a colo environment I'd simply put the whole thing in a 2U case with some 80mm fans at the front and call it a day
that colocation I referenced takes mini pcs directly. no need to put into 2U cases
bitserv-ai@reddit
Why would it suspend? You simply configure your OS to not suspend.
Not sure about the Minisforum, but the following Mini PCs have the Sixunited AXB35 mainboard:
The board/PC has a switch that lets you cycle through three different power modes. You may not need it but this way you know that you get max power on the "Performance" profile. I'm running my Bosgame M5 24/7 and it has been rock solid for me. It does make use of the 120/140W power envelope.
The Bosgame comes with a solid 2TB Industrial Kingston NVMe SSD.
It also does have the only BIOS setting you really need for colo: "Auto power on".
Check this review here for BIOS options: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Best-mini-PC-of-the-year-AMD-Strix-Halo-128-GB-RAM-Radeon-RX-8060S-reviewed-in-the-Bosgame-M5.1087793.0.html
There is a kernel driver that lets you monitor fans and set both fan speed and power mode on a Sixunited based machine. Very handy for remote work. See: https://github.com/cmetz/ec-su_axb35-linux/tree/main
Also check https://strixhalo.wiki/Hardware/Boards/Sixunited_AXB35 for more info about the board.
Ill_Ad_4604@reddit
The only one suitable for server configuration IMO is the HP one as it has a out of band management option and also AMD Dash out of band management built in
cranberrie_sauce@reddit (OP)
I mean - technically the coloaction I want to use they offer those little KVMs if needed - like I think jetkvm/nanokvm.
problem with HP its much larger so they gonna price it out differently a month.
Ill_Ad_4604@reddit
Oh and ECC RAM which I still don't under how non ECC is an option