I get you're making a joke, but declining sex work is actually a great recession indicator.
When incels can no longer afford $100 to get the real thing and have to accept watching porn instead, it's a big sign that people are tightening their belts in general.
I love how 'sex work' has finally been drilled into the lexicon, until that too has as many negative connotations as 'whore' or 'prostitute' and our ethical superiors replace it with some new, softer term.
It's like every word for the mentally challenged. It will always be co-opted into an insult. Better off using the original word. Problem is that those words get you banned in some subreddits. Hell, the subreddits that allow those words tend to get banned.
The original original word at the very beginning of the euphemism treadmill was probably "dumb", which ironically is so far removed now that it's become soft again. Saying "you're dumb" to someone is pretty tame. But I guess you're right, calling a person with trisomy "dumb" would be seen as insensitive, especially if you said "they're dumb" to refer to the illness itself, that would be extremely surprising/shocking
"Sex work" has some unique value as a term, because it encompasses prostitution, pornography, and all the various forms of escort and camgirl niches that stop just short of (or claim to stop just short of) prostitution or pornography. That is a whole category that has enough in common to frequently be worth referencing collectively, but previously lacked a single encompassing term.
In contrast to the various words for regards (I honestly can't remember if this word actually gets your post removed on this sub or if we just do this as a meme), where we've had specific, scientific terms not only become offensive, but also lose distinctive meaning and therefore lexical value. Idiot and moron used to have a specific, defined meaning. Now they mean exactly the same thing. Even "autistic", despite being a specific spectrum of mental disorders, is increasingly used interchangeably with all of these other terms.
we're all trading labor for money, so whore and prostitute can apply to us all. that is to say, you have to be specific when you refer to sex work because we're all getting fucked.
Rubbing your dick is quick, easy, convenient, and infinitely cheaper and less work. Most people will choose this over something better and we have the entire history of marketing and consumerism to prove it.
Btw do you think strip clubs will die with Gen X? Been to a few and basically anyone younger than Gen X hated that. I’d love to eg eat sushi out of naked lady sure or have some burlesque in the background of my dinner with friends but to go to a place where looking is the main thing, there is no good food and alcohol is absurdly priced? I can’t wait for these scammers to die out.
yes obviously. some places actually have a nice lunch buffet. generally catered from an outside restaurant; only bigger / more isolated places will have their own kitchens.
yes. blue collar guys / construction workers / truckers can't really go out late at night and also wake up early.
so a nice thursday afternoon, get to the strip club at 11am or noon, get a dance, have a few beers, free lunch, and then finish up for the day and head home to be a good dad and husband.
Im an American and it sounds fucking gross. Ive been to strip clubs and its not terribly interesting. All the ones ive been to are tits only. But idk snacking and staring at snatch doesn't sound like much fun. With or without the beer. Also, I work nights and have never thought after a shift that going to some sensory nightmare for over priced beer and past-their-prime meat, tuesday morning so I can see someone's single mom beg for singles. Man strippers suck, strip clubs suck. But im sure its nice for truckers
All the hot girls went to Onlyfans where they can make 10x more with less effort since it's basically remote work for strippers. Also a lot of guys are realizing you're essentially paying tons of money to get bricked up although some clubs do let you bang the strippers in VIP.
I'm not so old as the other gentleman, but I am willing to help you answer your question. I'd appreciate it if you could provide a bit more information first, otherwise I would just be swinging from the hip, however.
Here's an example of what I'd ask about, under the general heading of "What's your story, anon?"
1) Other than for work, about how often do you leave the house each week?
Not as old as other guy, but closer to him than you. Get out of the house. Exercise. Have some hobbies. Wear clothes that fit your body type. Same with a haircut and facial hair. Be nice to everyone for no reason. All of that sounds cliche, but it's all true. You don't need to be a different person, but you should try to be the best version of yourself. You'll be happier, and happiness is an attractive quality.
I wish them luck. We were going to change the world too, when we were younger. Some things are better now, but quality of life seems to be declining in the US. Just about my only regret about dying will be not being able to see how some things turn out.
That's normal all the time. There's like 4 boomers that consistently work at my local grocery store just because they're bored and like talking to customers.
I try to imagine that existence and it's just not possible. Seeing the world from that perspective is like trying to imagine a new color.
Mother fuckers could hang out at the library all day. Or visit the local veterans affairs office. Or volunteer at a food bank. Working at a grocery store out of boredom just blows my mind.
If they are also poor and could use the extra $500 every two weeks just get an actually good job and work 16 hours a week, then use that money to do something actually enjoyable.
Generally speaking, people enjoy having responsibility and socializing. The older you get the more likely this is true. If you like your coworkers and enjoy small talk with strangers, being a bagger part time at a grocery store is pretty chill. Way more chill than if you were doing it because it's the best job you can get and you need to pay rent.
Yea it's crazy too because imagine being genuinely racist and actually hating people based off something as fucking boring as the colour of their skin... like there are dozens of way more interesting reasons to judge people on that are actually valid and you stopped on some arbitrary trait like skin colour. Imagine being a whole adult and thinking like that It's so embarassing
I currently am doing this cause basically everyone except like 2 or 3 people where I worked got laid off. And finding a new comparable job is basically impossible. Started doing delivery and making more than I would at a factory or entry level job at the very least. Some of these people are making insane money for what the job is. As long as you aren't retarded with taxes
Basically, having fallen for the propaganda that she should spend her entire 20s on the cock carousel before settling down with some average joe with a decent job in her 30s, she proceeded to do so.
However, unfortunately for her, vast swathes of men have simply withdrawn from the dating scene altogether, and aren't going to be there to bail her out of the consequences of her earlier poor choices.
It's quite dispiriting, because the economy simply cannot improve. No matter how many mental gymnastics and manipulated statistics they deploy, real people can clearly see that everything is actively getting worse and worse.
Young people everywhere are basically giving up on owning their own home. Young men don't see the point of slaving away doing 50+ hours of labour a week just to have most of it siphoned away by the state to subsidise the lifestyles of a parasitic underclass of immigrants and single mothers.
Governments, being spineless, spiritually empty, evil worshipping, spiteful mutants (along with most of the electorate) have decided to actively make this problem much worse by importing millions of unskilled. functionally illiterate 3rd worlders to "pay our pensions" while attempting to prop up an economy centred on creating pointless makework jobs for millions of people (mostly women) with micky mouse humanities degrees, with the ultimate goal of ensuring that the birth rate continues to collapse, providing the smokescreen for continued mass immigration and bringing about the collapse of western civilisation and destruction of its people.
teflon_soap@reddit
Stagflation not recession. It’s a recession when they get into sex work instead of side gig apps.
13esq@reddit
I get you're making a joke, but declining sex work is actually a great recession indicator.
When incels can no longer afford $100 to get the real thing and have to accept watching porn instead, it's a big sign that people are tightening their belts in general.
teflon_soap@reddit
Holy shit….
What if the sex with dried up and she has to Uber..,
Oh my God
__redruM@reddit
That’s exactly what happened in 1929.
Boricua_Masonry@reddit
Can You explain (
Office_Zombie@reddit
So many Cat Girls doing Uber Eats... It was tragic.
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FuckRedditIsLame@reddit
I love how 'sex work' has finally been drilled into the lexicon, until that too has as many negative connotations as 'whore' or 'prostitute' and our ethical superiors replace it with some new, softer term.
teflon_soap@reddit
Whoresmithing didn’t really work in the sentence
Animal_Machine@reddit
Skin merchant
SuperSocialMan@reddit
Nah, that's some shit from the RimWorld subreddit.
VPackardPersuadedMe@reddit
That sounds smore like a pimp.
Animal_Machine@reddit
Sounds like you have a sexist bias about women not being able to manage their own skin merchant business /s
GreatGhastly@reddit
Whoreologist
A-10C_Thunderbolt@reddit
What’s wrong with studying clocks?
edbods@reddit
that would be studying/researching them though
Thai-Girl69@reddit
Vaginal Access Provider or Ejaculate Production Engineer both work for me
Dammit_Meg@reddit
I feel like whoresmithing is more pimping but I love the phrase regardless.
FuckRedditIsLame@reddit
Carnal transactor.
koopcl@reddit
Pussy payer or cock contractor
BxRad_@reddit
I feel like escort is decent
HitIerWasWrong@reddit
It's like every word for the mentally challenged. It will always be co-opted into an insult. Better off using the original word. Problem is that those words get you banned in some subreddits. Hell, the subreddits that allow those words tend to get banned.
GTAIVisbest@reddit
The original original word at the very beginning of the euphemism treadmill was probably "dumb", which ironically is so far removed now that it's become soft again. Saying "you're dumb" to someone is pretty tame. But I guess you're right, calling a person with trisomy "dumb" would be seen as insensitive, especially if you said "they're dumb" to refer to the illness itself, that would be extremely surprising/shocking
Paradox@reddit
Dumb originally meant mute
CommieRemovalCrew@reddit
i_love_yams@reddit
Haha that idiot
jungleass98@reddit
Imbecile, idiot and moron were all originally medical terms to describe different groups of the mentally deficient
Tommy2255@reddit
"Sex work" has some unique value as a term, because it encompasses prostitution, pornography, and all the various forms of escort and camgirl niches that stop just short of (or claim to stop just short of) prostitution or pornography. That is a whole category that has enough in common to frequently be worth referencing collectively, but previously lacked a single encompassing term.
In contrast to the various words for regards (I honestly can't remember if this word actually gets your post removed on this sub or if we just do this as a meme), where we've had specific, scientific terms not only become offensive, but also lose distinctive meaning and therefore lexical value. Idiot and moron used to have a specific, defined meaning. Now they mean exactly the same thing. Even "autistic", despite being a specific spectrum of mental disorders, is increasingly used interchangeably with all of these other terms.
mortgagepants@reddit
we're all trading labor for money, so whore and prostitute can apply to us all. that is to say, you have to be specific when you refer to sex work because we're all getting fucked.
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NotGloomp@reddit
People on arr four chan are saying "sex work" and don't know what incel means. It's over.
home_rolled@reddit
Pay for some clapped-out roastie that's had 300 dicks inside her
Goon to porn for free
This isn't the dilemma you're portraying it as
Evil_Patriarch@reddit
Have actual physical sex with a real-life woman
Rub your dick with your hand while watching other people have sex
The first one is a lot more fun friendo
BlackwoodJohnson@reddit
Rubbing your dick is quick, easy, convenient, and infinitely cheaper and less work. Most people will choose this over something better and we have the entire history of marketing and consumerism to prove it.
Conflictingview@reddit
You really dodged the point on that one.
Sleeping_Goliath@reddit
That's not dodging.
1st guy: sex with woman better than masturbate because intimate
2nd guy: masturbate better than sex with woman because convenient
Conflictingview@reddit
2nd guy: sex with women is more fun
You: jacking off is faster, cheaper, more convenient
You didn't engage with his point, you dodged it
Sleeping_Goliath@reddit
Nuh uh
igerardcom@reddit
Gottem
13esq@reddit
I'm not portraying it as a dilemma, I'm portraying it as a recession indicator.
Another related indicator is strip club patronage.
Inb4; tHatS nOt A dIlLeMa ThO!?!? Yes, I know, it's just a good way to see if people have money available to spend.
Icy-Cup@reddit
Btw do you think strip clubs will die with Gen X? Been to a few and basically anyone younger than Gen X hated that. I’d love to eg eat sushi out of naked lady sure or have some burlesque in the background of my dinner with friends but to go to a place where looking is the main thing, there is no good food and alcohol is absurdly priced? I can’t wait for these scammers to die out.
ZeldaZanders@reddit
They've been on their last legs since the early 2000s tbh
(Also, is food at strip clubs an American thing? You guys going for lapdances with greasy buffalo wing fingers???)
mortgagepants@reddit
yes obviously. some places actually have a nice lunch buffet. generally catered from an outside restaurant; only bigger / more isolated places will have their own kitchens.
ZeldaZanders@reddit
Lunch??? As in, daytime??
mortgagepants@reddit
yes. blue collar guys / construction workers / truckers can't really go out late at night and also wake up early.
so a nice thursday afternoon, get to the strip club at 11am or noon, get a dance, have a few beers, free lunch, and then finish up for the day and head home to be a good dad and husband.
ZeldaZanders@reddit
Interesting. Daytime buffet strip club is too much for my puny European mind to comprehend
jungleass98@reddit
Im an American and it sounds fucking gross. Ive been to strip clubs and its not terribly interesting. All the ones ive been to are tits only. But idk snacking and staring at snatch doesn't sound like much fun. With or without the beer. Also, I work nights and have never thought after a shift that going to some sensory nightmare for over priced beer and past-their-prime meat, tuesday morning so I can see someone's single mom beg for singles. Man strippers suck, strip clubs suck. But im sure its nice for truckers
mortgagepants@reddit
eh- maybe you're not an old person yet. still like tits, just prefer to be home in bed before 11pm.
ZeldaZanders@reddit
Maybe our strip clubs would be faring better if we had daytime opening hours
mortgagepants@reddit
it is possible. a lot of the dancers would prefer to work regular days too.
Dtrain323i@reddit
There was a strip club where I used to live that used to advertise a burger, fries, and a beer for $5.99
LooseButtPlug@reddit
I go to one that brings in a taco cart. Dollar tacos and free refills on soda all lunch long.
ZeldaZanders@reddit
Strip club taco cart is crazy omg
13esq@reddit
I'm not an expert in strip club economics, but I'd guess that there's more than one factor.
Young people poorer than older people. Very easy to access porn, only fans etc. Social pressure. Probably more than I can't think of right now.
I don't think they'll die, but it's possible they'll become more niche than they are now.
Sharky-Li@reddit
All the hot girls went to Onlyfans where they can make 10x more with less effort since it's basically remote work for strippers. Also a lot of guys are realizing you're essentially paying tons of money to get bricked up although some clubs do let you bang the strippers in VIP.
daemon-of-harrenhal@reddit
Eventually yes. They are sleazy shitholes.
TwistedBamboozler@reddit
Majority of them. It’s a totally different experience in Vegas or Montreal though.
s00pafly@reddit
If you had money to spend you wouldn't think it's absurdly priced.
Ledoborec@reddit
You are less like to be addicted to escorts, so there's that.
MetalGearXerox@reddit
That wasn't the point, numbnuts.
Nice_Cash_7000@reddit
Paying for sex has been a thing since the beggining of mankind.
Much better alternative to rape that has been around for longer.
Put some respect on hookers names, experience makes you better at sex, not worse.
FrontOperation7154@reddit
How are they incels if they can get laid in the first place?
philmarcracken@reddit
the word incel is divorced from celibacy and just either means virgin(pejoratively) or 'man I don't like'
13esq@reddit
I don't really think paying to get laid counts, but I suppose it's a matter of opinion.
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
I thought everyone having to fall back on hookery or selling your teeth etc. was the ultimate rock-bottom?
13esq@reddit
You can't fall back on hookery if the punters have no cash to pay you!
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
Well you'll just have to lower your price or what?
SalvationSycamore@reddit
We're safe then, I keep checking my local brothels and it's still all Indian and Pakistani men
AtomicMonkeyTheFirst@reddit
Hagflation = when middle aged women get 2nd jobs
Glum-Welder1704@reddit
I remember in 2008 seeing guys my age (over 50) bagging groceries. That was a bad sign.
PsychologicalFix3912@reddit
Wow how old are you now ?
Glum-Welder1704@reddit
Well over 50.
Actual_Fix8847@reddit
I’m 24 why can’t I find friends or a girlfriend?
TildenKattz@reddit
I'm not so old as the other gentleman, but I am willing to help you answer your question. I'd appreciate it if you could provide a bit more information first, otherwise I would just be swinging from the hip, however.
Here's an example of what I'd ask about, under the general heading of "What's your story, anon?"
1) Other than for work, about how often do you leave the house each week?
snrup1@reddit
Not as old as other guy, but closer to him than you. Get out of the house. Exercise. Have some hobbies. Wear clothes that fit your body type. Same with a haircut and facial hair. Be nice to everyone for no reason. All of that sounds cliche, but it's all true. You don't need to be a different person, but you should try to be the best version of yourself. You'll be happier, and happiness is an attractive quality.
Shinigami69420@reddit
nah id rather writhe around in self pity and be a whiny piss ant constantly
TorfriedGiantsfraud@reddit
Cause you're an incel
Glum-Welder1704@reddit
If I had the answer to that, I would have lived a very different life. My BIL called me a hermit, and upon reflection, he's right.
PsychologicalFix3912@reddit
How do you see the younger genrati9n ?
Glum-Welder1704@reddit
I wish them luck. We were going to change the world too, when we were younger. Some things are better now, but quality of life seems to be declining in the US. Just about my only regret about dying will be not being able to see how some things turn out.
edbods@reddit
that'd probably be my sole reason for wanting to live forever. just see how shit pans out.
Kingston_17@reddit
That's such a profound thing to say on the 4chan sub old man. God bless.
mischling2543@reddit
What was D-Day like unc?
Glum-Welder1704@reddit
Not quite that old, but my dad did hit the beach at Normandy. Fortunately for him, it was August 1944 before they got around to sending him.
mischling2543@reddit
I hit the beaches in Normandy in 2022 too, does that count?
edbods@reddit
only if you were with remi gaillard
PrimateOnAPlanet@reddit
Idk Hulu removed that episode from Sunny
cplusequals@reddit
That's normal all the time. There's like 4 boomers that consistently work at my local grocery store just because they're bored and like talking to customers.
Glum-Welder1704@reddit
Not so much where I shop. The baggers are generally youngsters, and there's some turnover. The cashiers and floor managers have been there for years.
Jah_Ith_Ber@reddit
I try to imagine that existence and it's just not possible. Seeing the world from that perspective is like trying to imagine a new color.
Mother fuckers could hang out at the library all day. Or visit the local veterans affairs office. Or volunteer at a food bank. Working at a grocery store out of boredom just blows my mind.
If they are also poor and could use the extra $500 every two weeks just get an actually good job and work 16 hours a week, then use that money to do something actually enjoyable.
cplusequals@reddit
Generally speaking, people enjoy having responsibility and socializing. The older you get the more likely this is true. If you like your coworkers and enjoy small talk with strangers, being a bagger part time at a grocery store is pretty chill. Way more chill than if you were doing it because it's the best job you can get and you need to pay rent.
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Howaboutthatrp@reddit
I prefer the brown dudes bringing me my order because I just change my tip to $0 after delivery and don’t feel bad.
RelevantBee7856@reddit
I always tip $0.
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KeK_What@reddit
Then next order it's the same dude and this time you find a Special white sauce on your fries. No thanks, i'd rather take a frozen pizza.
Fatlight@reddit
i somehow always forget that people here are genuinely racist lol
BluebirdDesigner6161@reddit
its not really racism more sexism, and racism
rkiive@reddit
Yea it's crazy too because imagine being genuinely racist and actually hating people based off something as fucking boring as the colour of their skin... like there are dozens of way more interesting reasons to judge people on that are actually valid and you stopped on some arbitrary trait like skin colour. Imagine being a whole adult and thinking like that It's so embarassing
Pick_lebear@reddit
At least the way they project it is funny
cerebralburial@reddit
lmao same. tbf it is a 4chan subreddit, but god damn
_Empty-R_@reddit
yes, but careful to wash your hands after you open the bag.
AvidCyclist250@reddit
enjoy eating cum next time
heyodai@reddit
That’s why I prefer the blonde women
Zeaoses@reddit
Based
OneEnvironmental9222@reddit
meanwhile the ones in my area are all people that odnt even speak my langue and never seem to find my address
TNTspaz@reddit
I currently am doing this cause basically everyone except like 2 or 3 people where I worked got laid off. And finding a new comparable job is basically impossible. Started doing delivery and making more than I would at a factory or entry level job at the very least. Some of these people are making insane money for what the job is. As long as you aren't retarded with taxes
Dankie002@reddit
its a trap
MercuryAI@reddit
Remember, strippers are a leading indicator of the economy.
TrajanParthicus@reddit
Basically, having fallen for the propaganda that she should spend her entire 20s on the cock carousel before settling down with some average joe with a decent job in her 30s, she proceeded to do so.
However, unfortunately for her, vast swathes of men have simply withdrawn from the dating scene altogether, and aren't going to be there to bail her out of the consequences of her earlier poor choices.
It's quite dispiriting, because the economy simply cannot improve. No matter how many mental gymnastics and manipulated statistics they deploy, real people can clearly see that everything is actively getting worse and worse.
Young people everywhere are basically giving up on owning their own home. Young men don't see the point of slaving away doing 50+ hours of labour a week just to have most of it siphoned away by the state to subsidise the lifestyles of a parasitic underclass of immigrants and single mothers.
Governments, being spineless, spiritually empty, evil worshipping, spiteful mutants (along with most of the electorate) have decided to actively make this problem much worse by importing millions of unskilled. functionally illiterate 3rd worlders to "pay our pensions" while attempting to prop up an economy centred on creating pointless makework jobs for millions of people (mostly women) with micky mouse humanities degrees, with the ultimate goal of ensuring that the birth rate continues to collapse, providing the smokescreen for continued mass immigration and bringing about the collapse of western civilisation and destruction of its people.
StarSlayerX@reddit
My plug came on time and tried to hang out and play PS5
Serenaded@reddit
even though it was posted today, this post is a repost from a while ago
Beelzebot_666@reddit
The 'rona probably took him. RIP in peace.
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bigquad35@reddit
Damn, what a business idea.
Uber Eats mix with Hooters. Brilliant!
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
We'll call it 'Gooners'
omyrubbernen@reddit
Come on, man.
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
Oh that is brilliant
TrumpDesWillens@reddit
Cooters
RedDragons8@reddit
Gooner Eats
Arizoniac@reddit
Gooner Skeets
Hikiko_Mori@reddit
Hooters Eats?
gatosaurio@reddit
Hookers?
BigBuddhaR@reddit
Hookahs?
erikwarm@reddit
OnlyFoods
stop_talking_you@reddit
saw a lot of 50years old delivering food
Fidel_Cashflows@reddit
The tech job boyfriend is now unemployed. Gotta make hay while the waymo ain't shining.
velvett_wink@reddit
SkibididdyOhio@reddit
Anon finds out he is a fakecel
(attractive women sign up to Doordash only to get a chance to meet him)
AlphaMassDeBeta@reddit
At least theres a silver lining to this recession.