Due for an upgrade
Posted by Traditionallyy@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 35 comments
Currently run a i9-9900k and a 3080, but it’s beginning to fail. I’ve been looking at the new graphics cards but keep reading that the 4000 series is somehow better than the 5000 series.
Can anyone shed some light on this.
Brilliant-Mission172@reddit
Is your 3080 heavy and do you use a sag bracket? Not giving a heavy GPU the proper support over a long period of time can also cause thermal pads to lose contact with VRAM chips leading to instability. If that’s the case here, adding in a sag bracket now has a chance of restoring the proper contact and buy you some more time with the 3080.
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
Yea I got a support bracket within the month of having it because of how heavy it was. It’s bolted to one of my fans for support.
FootlooseFrankie@reddit
Get a 9070 xt.
Event-Honest@reddit
Why?
Moist-War-6658@reddit
It's the popular gpu right now, price and performance wise, with a lot of tech influencers stating how great it is. Priced at around $7-800 USD. Supposedly it almost matches the 5080 in performance, which costs $12-1600 USD in the current market.
Event-Honest@reddit
Fair enough. I mean it all comes down to what games you play, resolution and target fps. For me personally a 9070 xt isn’t enough for me. So I tell people that are like me to wait a few weeks or a month or 2 so they can afford the exact card they want. Basically I’m saying I don’t agree with the “get it because it’s good price to performance”
Moist-War-6658@reddit
In my case I personally found a 5070 on sale at staples for $450ish near me right before the price hike lmao.
Calm-Bid-8256@reddit
As someone who has a 9070xt: it does not match the 5080.
It pretty much matches the 5070ti but the 5080 is still clearly faster, even in pure raster
Moist-War-6658@reddit
for what it's worth, I don't specifically know personally, just regurgitating the verbiage I've heard from youtubers mostly.
ssnipperr@reddit
a 3080 should not be failing yet. I built my pc with kraft glue and rubber bands and it's kicking along well
try a re-image first, this environment is stupid expensive to try buy in to. wait for the ai bubble to collapse
bandit8623@reddit
whats failing? cpu or gpu? and why do youj feel its failing? its not hard to put new heatpads on a gpu for 15$
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
GPU, after about 2 hours of gaming, my screen begins to flicker, and I start getting all these little purple squares all over my monitors.
lawrencekhoo@reddit
It could be your monitor failing. Or even your HDMI cable. You need to isolate the problem before trying to fix it.
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
I already troubleshooted cables, monitors, drivers, etc., but nothing fixed the issue, and from what people have posted on this thread as well as the research I did online, it all points to failing VRAM/card.
bandit8623@reddit
temps all good? using a monitoring tool?
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
Yup temps are good, I monitor my cpu and GPU using the nzxt tool. CPU - 58 and GPU 65ish. I have 6 intake fans and 4 exhaust.
Calm-Bid-8256@reddit
Check the VRAM temp of your GPU.
Those little purple/pink squares are a sign of ovwrhwating/dying VRAM
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
I didn’t know that, I’ll definitely do a deeper dive into the vram temps. Would replacing the pads and new thermal paste possibly fix it ?
Calm-Bid-8256@reddit
Most of the time if you see those purple squares it means the VRAM is already damaged. Not really fixable
Agabeckov@reddit
> 4000 series is somehow better than the 5000 series.
It could be related to missing PhysX in 50 series. Although for multiple games it was fixed later: https://www.theshortcut.com/p/nvidia-just-fixed-the-rtx-50-series-physx-problem-though-not-all-games-are-supported
shabit87@reddit
Went from 3060 to 5070 and no regrets.
Maybe 4000 might be more stable, but I don’t know about better.
gamblodar@reddit
What is beginning to fail? Cpu or gpu?
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
GPU, after about 2 hours of gaming, my screen begins to flicker, and I start getting all these little purple squares all over my monitors.
gamblodar@reddit
A 9070 would be a good upgrade replacement.
AwShootMe@reddit
Always comes down to money and availability. Getting a 7800x3d with a 5070 ti or 9070xt would be a fine upgrade. If you have a Microcenter within range they have some of the best deals on mid/high range prebuilts with their Powerspec systems. I recently replaced my 10900K/3080 with a 9800x3d/5080. Was able to sell the old system for about 1/3 of the new.
If you just want a GPU then the 5070 is the good option and the 5070 ti the real upgrade. Stand-alone 5080s are priced insanely.
Traditionallyy@reddit (OP)
I haven’t decided yet but I’d definitely like to go all out again. I’ll drive down to micro center sometime this week and see what deals they have.
Popular-Tune-6335@reddit
CPU failing? Perfect time to upgrade and switch to AM5 with an X3D processor.
GPU? 5000>4000, hands down.
If your build is intact but just feels old, it may be a good bet to go the CPU route. 3080 is not a bad card, and pairing something a 5000GPU with one of the current x3d cpus, say next year, will be amazing.
Stars_Storm@reddit
40 series isn't better. Unless it's the vram on a 4090 for AI purposes. Otherwise the 50 is better. If you want an NVIDIA card anything over the 5070ti is good. If you're looking at anything less then just skip nvidia and get a 9060xt/9070xt from amd.
Diedead666@reddit
My 4090 is basically 2x faster than my 3080 pc
blackburn26@reddit
RTX 3080 is still a very capable card but the i9-9900K is very outdated. Consider going with AM4 or Intel 12th-14th D4 platform.
Moist-War-6658@reddit
I personally picked up a 5070 before prices got out of whack, but was able to trade in my 6900xt for $350 off of the new card on Newegg. If you're looking at cards, I'd recommend looking at what your 3080 might be worth on there to get some additional savings.
No_Spare1827@reddit
na the 50 series gets al the latest features and in general is better. but it all depends on what u want to spend
Maleficent-West5356@reddit
I went from 12400F to 14600K and 3070 to 9070XT. GPU util jumps from 88% to 99%.
CrystalAlienConflict@reddit
It’s not in any way. Just go latest gen.
Shin_Ramyun@reddit
In early marketing material they made some crazy claims like 5070 with the power of 4090 or something similar. In reality that was multiple frame generation (MFG) which would use AI to generate additional frames in between real frames. In terms of raw compute, the 5000 series is an decent incremental upgrade from the 4000 series.
5090 > 4090 > 5080 > 4080 Super > 4080 > 5070ti > 4070 ti-super
Get the best within your budget.