Companies are hiring developers again.

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iegdev@reddit

I hate interviewing and I don’t do coding exercises anymore. I should just change professions

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waba99@reddit

I feel that. 11 YoE and I failed a system design interview that was fairly easy. Just can’t bring myself to study after working and living.

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iegdev@reddit

I’ve had a lot of jobs in my life and none of them started with a pop quiz to prove I had the experience I said I had.

The whole industry is broken. I just wish I knew how broken it was going to be when I started so I could have gone and done something else

I guess that’s what happens in male dominated industries, everything is just a pissing match to see whose the best because you have to be a goddamn rockstar developer to build a CRUD app that lets you send conspiracy theory memes to your drunk uncle

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BetterWhereas3245@reddit

Male dominated industry? How about try HR female driven bullshit where interviewers are completely disconnected from the day to day, so they have to invent convoluted checklists and tests like leetcode because actually interviewing candidates is too time consuming.
Every job posting written by some Stacy in an HR department that has no fucking clue what the job actually entails, and who discards applicants because they don't have 5 YOE on a framework that released 2 years ago.

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waba99@reddit

I’ve been daydreaming about leaving this career or just fucking off to another country for a bit. It’s actually harder for me to land a job now than earlier in my career. The market might be bad right now but for me it’s needing to juggle work, interview prep and taking care of my family.

I have management experience and work as a tech lead for 5 years in large startups but all that flies out the window because I didn’t study all the intricacies of an imaginary system in 30-40 minutes. Honestly it’s just a motivation thing for me at this point. I love solving hard problems when it’s actually useful or discussing past projects but LC and Design System questions kill my soul.

Early in my career I was grinding LeetCode and could pass most questions with ease, the LeetCode questions were also a bit easier than the ridiculous ones they are asking now. I got laid off 2 years ago and the job search wasn’t so bad because I was able to spend time studying the BS LC problems and Design System questions.

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iegdev@reddit

I hear ya. I've been in the industry for 8 years and then got laid off a month ago because apparently my position needed to go to Costa Rica urgently. The thing I'm most worried about is agism on top of how shitty the job market is. I'm 46 now and I've spent the last 14 years getting to where I am now (took me a bit to get my BS in CS because I had a family and stuff). I was told all my life, you get a degree that will get you a good job and you're set. What a load of horseshit that was.

I've spent the last 4 years at a multi-national financial institution with tens of millions of active users and who knows how many requests per second but all that means nothing because now I have to implement some sorting algorithm from memory when all I've been doing of the last 8 years is using .Sort()

My problem is I don't work well under pressure when I'm being watch. I can study all I want but 9 times out of 10 I'm going to freeze during the interview and look like I don't know what the hell doing despite being able to investigate and remediate SEV 1 issues that are costing the company millions while being down.

Maybe I'll go back to school and go into psychology or something

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bluetista1988@reddit

Have you ever seen those nature documentaries where they show the courtship dances of birds?

I feel like that's what interviews have turned into in the last few years.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

I suck at coding interviews . I’d recommend anybody who interviews with a company that does leet code style interviews to not even entertain them.

That is a very antiquated way to assess someone skills.

Writing code is not equal to building software.

If it makes you feel better, I’ve only passed two coding interviews in my entire career. The only interviews that I do best in is when I’m able to showcase my outcomes and by demonstrating my real problem-solving skills in the context of a real business.

That’s what matters

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iegdev@reddit

So true.

The best interview I had was at my last job. They had me build from an empty project a GET, POST, and DELETE endpoints using in-memory storage and explain what I did and why I did it. Which was exactly what I did day to day.

You know what I didn’t do day to day? Anything I’ve seen on Leetcode.

Its like, if you can’t look at someone’s resume and tell whether or not they’re full of shit after 10 minutes, you probably shouldn’t be interviewing people

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Very well said!

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MeasurementOk7862@reddit

Finally, somebody said this. In the world of LC maniacs and algorithm driven development there are some light rays who remembers business problem solving!

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Singer_Solid@reddit

I have been turning down interviews because of this, and letting them know it's because of leetcode stages in the process. Taking a hit because I am not desperate yet, in the hope that it changes the industry forbbetter for everyone

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new2bay@reddit

In 9 years in the industry, I've never been able to afford to take that hit.

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Possible-Werewolf791@reddit

I hear ya! Organ grinder's monkey on a chain. When he says dance, you dance. And he only gives you as many peanuts as he feels like.

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PermabearsEatBeets@reddit

AI slop

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skidmark_zuckerberg@reddit

Yes same here. I’ve worked some of the best jobs that interviewed like this.

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new2bay@reddit

I actually kinda think interviews are fun, just not when there are real stakes on the line. At this point, those stakes are practically life and death (literally). I'm a practiced public speaker who can get up in front of hundreds of people with no problem, but I choke in interviews. It doesn't help that SWE interviews are really just impromptu live performances.

See https://vicentechiriguaya.com/blog/posts/programming-under-pressure/

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iegdev@reddit

I can think of few things worse than interviews. But that's probably my social anxiety talking. Which is odd because although I hate doing it, I'm actually pretty good at presentations. But, then again, I never did well on tests in school either. But give me a project and I'll knock it out of the park.

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forgot_previous_acc@reddit

I don't hate interview per se but I have a full time job where i am sending almost 10-11 hrs working and after I don't have the energy to do leetcode. So yeah i hate when companies or people try to judge you based on leetcode questions or some obscure questions.

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bdanmo@reddit

This is me

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pastandprevious@reddit

There’s some truth here, but I wouldn’t celebrate the cleanup economy too much because it’s still a symptom of bad hiring and short-term thinking. What we’re seeing lately is a split, in that companies that treated devs as a commodity are now paying for it, while others are quietly shifting to smaller, higher-quality teams and getting better results.

I’m one of the folks behind RocketDevs, and a big pattern we’ve noticed is that strong engineers aren’t just charging more, but choosing environments where they actually own outcomes, not just fix messes.

The leverage isn’t just higher rates, it’s being selective about who you build with.

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mwax321@reddit

I'm going to sit around and write my own apps until they're begging.

I'm honestly having way more fun.

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vanit@reddit

Making a video game for this reason. If it does well I might just leave.

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Jwosty@reddit

Me too lol.

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

Me too man! Really think gamings gonna become huge again with so many Devs free from reins of capitalism now!

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tcpukl@reddit

Please don't. There's already too much slop coming from you guys that think you can make games.

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

Care to show us the games you've made?

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tcpukl@reddit

No. Where do you work?

I've been making games professionally for over 25 years.

I'm not saying who I am, because I'm professional.

If you've played games for years you would have heard of some of them.

My 3rd or 4th PS5 game is out this year. Also my first on switch 2.

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

Ok let's assume you are a big shot, why would you actively discourage people online whom you have absolutely no idea who they are and what background they come from?

Either you fear this will result in less monetary income for you. Or you genuinely care about the gaming industry and the average quality of games, fair...

For me personally, the reason I feel like I have to make my own game is because it feels the entry into the gaming industry is purely entrepreneurial.

Devs moving over from other industries would 100% be healthy for the gaming industry overall no?

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tcpukl@reddit

My reason is because since Steam Greenlight, the market has completely saturated with utter tripe made by amateurs.

The barrier to entry is so low now, due to freely accessible engines, it's difficult to even find the decent games.

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

I agree mate, but isn't that a marketing / distribution problem, putting all your eggs onto Steam?

Gaming has the potential to entertain 99.9% of the entire population, but how many of them actually use steam?

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tcpukl@reddit

Most PC gamers use Steam.

My view here is really as a gamer rather than professional.

Professionally we have a marketing department spending millions this year for our new launch. It's visible.

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vogut@reddit

Gatekeeping because you're afraid you lose your spot? We need more people creating games, that doesn't mean you have to play them.

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tcpukl@reddit

Paying for marketing is gatekeeping?

Economics is now gatekeeping? Wow.

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

Well I wish you all the best with the launch!

But I will be not be taking your advice and will continue making games.

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Sufficient-Wolf7023@reddit

I'm a big lover of games, but I have to say the good indie made PC games out there are simply far better than any AAA PS5 games made by a big studio. You "pros" make some cool games but not the best ones by a large measure.

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tcpukl@reddit

One opinion does really matter, when we still sell millions.

Millions disagree with you.

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

It's true, but the gaming industry really needs to open it's doors to a broader scope of devs

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tcpukl@reddit

It couldn't be broader. The barrier to entry has never been lower.

Anyone with 100 dollars can publish on steam.

Free engines exist with visual programming languages and free art tools exist.

So why does it need to open to a broader scope exactly?

The market is currently so saturated with shit already!

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LongjumpingAd9079@reddit

I'm saying the big gaming dev companies need to capitalise on the influx of talent as traditional SE jobs get snapped up by agentic frameworks

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tcpukl@reddit

Ah I see. I hire a lot, and we already get 100s per application. Even graduates have made games for a decade since they were 10.

It comes down to your amazing portfolio. Which also doesn't mean finishing crappy games and releasing them.

This is a good games portfolio.https://youtube.com/@sebastianlague

We've also had mass layoffs due to COVID over hiring.

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Sufficient-Wolf7023@reddit

Millions of people watch shitty soap opera every day. Doesn't mean they're good. Also by that metric many indy games developed by a few amateurs have greatly surpassed the "pros", so I don't know what you have to say about that. Maybe your company is different? But anyone who equates artistic quality with popularity doesn't understand it in the first place anyway.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

That’s awesome!!!!!

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straightouttaireland@reddit

So you're doing it on company time?

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vanit@reddit

Putting aside how I feel about this ethically, it would also likely mean they'd own the IP. So absolutely not. Squeezing in an hour or 2 a day at night, with a game of small scope, I'm hoping will take less than a year.

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straightouttaireland@reddit

All the best with it

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ericmutta@reddit

I'm honestly having way more fun.

People who don't write code don't understand this aspect of our job. It almost feels immoral to get paid for having fun, but that's the job when you can build things that defy the laws of physics (e.g. insant global distribution at near zero cost).

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drguid@reddit

I'm doing the same.

I do worry about AI taking jobs. But now I've been using AI to write code I reckon companies will need more devs eventually, not less. I don't know about anyone else but I can do a whole lot more, I mean I'm basically building a very large business with just me + ChatGPT.

From what I've heard from recruiters, EVERY COMPANY is holding off hiring until.. until something. Until they all start hiring at the exact same time. It happened in 2021. Example: I got offered a very decent contract in February but the client couldn't get final sign off from his boss.

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mwax321@reddit

One of these companies will start hiring back all the ai enabled devs and realize they can take more risks and build more things. They will climb out ahead, and then a hiring war will begin again. That's my guess.

My app dev chain has ai agents for coding, testing, ux, and even BA. I've created a business agent to help with marketing and product feature decisions. It sounds crazy but it really works. I have an "ai staff" making all the decisions and writing all the code. I'm just the adult making sure nothing bad happens and fixing the ai agents when they do.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Visibility is rewarded more than coding.

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rayfrankenstein@reddit

A company is defined by what it rewards.

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Bright_Start_9224@reddit

I wanted to get more into DevOps. Any advice on what they're looking for in that?

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shokolokobangoshey@reddit

Take any sample project, open source even. Fork it/download it. From there, your sole goal should be to get that project to

Build/Compile
Lint
Run automated tests that are already in there
Run security scans
Package itself in whatever form factor you fancy

There are other things involved, but each of those stages is its own rabbit hole depending on the platform of choice. Start with something that stands on its own like Jenkins or CircleCI

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

This!

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UntestedMethod@reddit

Does modern DevOps also include IaC? Or is that more for cloud specialists?

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shokolokobangoshey@reddit

Depends on the budget of the employer. Those that can’t afford infrastructure engineers will define DevOps (or even DevSecOps) as every software engineer’s responsibility a.k.a You Build It, You Own It. They also tend to roll some SRE and Ops into it as well. It starts to get too much there’s diminishing returns

More moneyed orgs will have infrastructure engineers separately from software engineers, and even more separately Cybersecurity engineers (looking at you DoD).

As a discipline, Dev[Sec]Ops is everything that will take code from a PR through to a deployment target. Who’s actually responsible for which chunk of the assembly line is a matter of org size

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Militop@reddit

Just say I understand Kubernetes.

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Bright_Start_9224@reddit

Okay. I got Oreilly books on kubernetes and want to experiment some locally. Does that qualify as knowing kubernetes?

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8ersgonna8@reddit

I really dislike k8s (overly complex) but this seems to be the default hosting option for now. Learn useful Linux skills and become proficient in k8s, then it should be easy to get a devops starter position. You will need to learn a lot from senior coaches though, can’t really study your way into the role.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

DevOps isn’t my niche but from what I see, if you are good at automating complex code pipelines to cloud deployments with automated tests, security checks…etc that’s where I see the value . I’d ask the devops folks for a better answer

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Chickenfrend@reddit

Sounds very fun, I'd love to do that, honestly. I just can't afford to do it.

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mwax321@reddit

Next time (and there will be a next time), just make sure you save enough for "fuck you" money.

The last time this happened I was in your shoes. I was finding quarters on the ground for gas money to get to my second job.

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Abject_Parsley_4525@reddit

This is the right mentality. Of all of the people in the product chain, who do you think is most empowered today to build their own shit. It's us. Stupid fucking companies. I've been hiring and it has been utterly painful to try and find good candidates

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Thats the mindset!

For example I built a demo FHIR-compatible telehealth application, and I am now getting recruiters from healthcare startups messaging me on LinkedIn.

It works, you just have to be consistent.

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mwax321@reddit

Omg HL7 feeds. Hipaa. You're giving me flashbacks...

Why would you do that to yourself?!? ;)

(That's awesome I hope you get a great job!)

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new2bay@reddit

IKR? I can't imagine EHR interop is anybody's idea of fun.

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Distinct_Dragonfly83@reddit

HL7 and HIPAA are things I get to look forward to in the future. So excited!!

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UntestedMethod@reddit

Domain knowledge more valuable than ever

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Goducks91@reddit

Yep I got laid off after an attempt to pivot to more general engineering from 10+ years in healthtech utilizing FHIR and HL7. I got a job in 2 weeks simply from leveraging my healthtech domain knowledge.

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tchernobog84@reddit

They should absolutely give a higher salary when rehiring. Make them pay, literally.

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Onedome@reddit

This is definitely the more fun way.

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Icy_Fun16@reddit

any data to back this up?

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ilyas-inthe-cloud@reddit

Seeing this firsthand right now. Got pulled into a project where a team let AI generate most of their backend and it was a complete mess. Hallucinated dependencies, broken auth flows, zero error handling. Cost them more to untangle than building it right the first time would have. If you have real experience this is actually a good time to be picky about where you land.

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Available_Award_9688@reddit

We're actually hiring right now after about a year without any new headcount, but honestly it wasn't a layoff situation, just early stage where a small team does everything.

What i've noticed though is that with the current tooling one solid engineer ships what used to take a team of five. That's not a threat, it's just the reality of building in 2026. The bar for what we expect from each hire is higher but the leverage each person has is also way higher.

The production reliability point resonates though. Fast shipping with AI creates a different kind of debt that shows up months later when something breaks and nobody fully owns it.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Facts! This is a very great point. Thanks for bringing this up.

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Zenictetus@reddit

Haha, you got dunked on in the other post so you made another one to soothe your ego.

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ultraDross@reddit

This is not what I am observing in the job market at all. In fact, I've noticed a huge drop in opportunities since late last year. I think with the new claude models many companies think they need less devs and are experimenting with this.

Inevitably, this will create a big ball of mud. I think we have some time before the consequences of those actions come to light, and only then will the market recover IMO.

It's about just holding onto your current position and waiting and preparing for that specific time.

Probably doesn't help that almost all limited venture capital is going to 2 AI companies that are bleeding billions and have no path to profitability, interest rates seem to keep hiking intermittently and the big orange man has started a war without any sensible reason.

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IceMichaelStorm@reddit

If you use Claude right and with reviews, the mud does not need to happen. You will be much faster than without, of course still much slower than without review.

I as company would try to use my dev force to accelerate, though, because AI does not make up for lost knowledge.

But I’m not sure this ball of mud is coming, are there studies there?

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scoopydidit@reddit

That will come with time but I can speak for my own team personally... I've never seen more bugs and outages in the last 6 months than any 6 months timeframe before that. We still try to rigorously review everything and we have strict test standards. But the developer is the one with the most insight into their changes and, especially juniors, are becoming increasingly lazy about code quality so bugs are the biproduct when you vibe code.

I know what's happening. Most people sit down ready to write a feature. They think "if I vibe code this I'll be done in 30 mins, have very little understanding of the code and can chill for the day" or the other one is "I can sit here for 8 hours and write it by hand, have a deep understanding of every line of code but I won't be able to go chill" ... I see most people opting for the second... Not sure I can blame them. Life >>>>>> work. But you do get slop as a result.

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IceMichaelStorm@reddit

I totally agree.

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scapegoat130@reddit

You got a source on this or is it all vibes? Because last I saw Meta is laying off 10% next month.

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Spez_is-a-nazi@reddit

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IHLIDXUSTPSOFTDEVE

More hiring going on, still < 1/3 of the level of hiring during the 2022 boom. Meta for instance is still 80% bigger than they were in 2019(laying off an additional 10% will still put them at 170% of 2019 headcount)

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new2bay@reddit

At the rate that's rising, it will take 16 months or so to get back to where it was the last time I got hired.

Side note: I hate graphs like this that don't start at zero.

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Western_Objective209@reddit

yeah if only they had indeed software engineer postings from year 0 onward the graphs would make more sense

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new2bay@reddit

The y axis, ding dong.

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Western_Objective209@reddit

hah, yeah I guess that makes more sense. I don't agree with it, you should scale to your data because there's nothing magical about 0 and in this case 0 job postings isn't realistic

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new2bay@reddit

Sure it is. How many human computer job openings are there today, compared to, say, 1940? There may be a point where there are zero job openings for something called a “software engineer,” in the future.

Maybe the graph should start at 100 for the base date, and everything else be relative to that, so the range would go from -100 with the (current) max being about 140-something, and the display going to 145 or 150 max.

My point is that if all the vaguely reasonable ways they could have displayed the data, the way they actually do it seems like the least informative.

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Excerpts_From@reddit

That's exactly what the chart is. It's labelled on the y-axis directly:

100 = Base Rate = February 2020's level.

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Western_Objective209@reddit

you know what, fair enough, I agree with you.

I personally find well scaled graphs easier to read because I do naturally look at axis values and that allows you to see relative change over time; like in this example the huge hill from almost 240 to 60 or so as the low point, the graph displays it well. But, if someone is used to the way graphs are taught in grade school (not meaning to throw shade, just graphs are designed like that in school but if you use graphing software, they scale to fit), then it can look deceptive.

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HelloSummer99@reddit

Stop looking at FAANG as your metric, most jobs are not at FAANG companies. FAANG hires and fires as they please to fulfill a business quarter, it's not "real life".

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XenonBG@reddit

Isn't firing 10% something that's regularly happening at FAANG only so they could keep people on edge?

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

I’m hearing it from other people and I’ve also noticed more outreach from recruiters on LinkedIn. I just recently landed a contract too. After I settled in on this one, I’m going to look for another contract.

Before anyone says, I’m stealing time, look at it this way if I’m good at what I do and I am able to deliver the results that’s expected of me. I should be allowed to take another “customer” and make more money with the time that I have left.

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FetaMight@reddit

Empty words.

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zimejin@reddit

Words are wind 🌬️

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cppfnatic@reddit

Jesus fucking lord what a reddit moment

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klimaheizung@reddit

I'm going to clean up for someone as a contractor, for a very high rate, combined with consulting them about how to do better. Otherwise, their management can do the clean up themselves, good luck.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

EXACTLY!

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Accomplished_Cap5230@reddit

What is your source for "hiring devs again"? Just a few days ago, there were multiple mass-layoffs in India. Where exactly are the jobs that you speak of? Why are you giving false hope to people here who may be severely distressed?

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

I understand why you’re skeptical and you should be. I just don’t want everyone to give up during the end of a massive storm.

Is it harder to get a job, yes, but learning the skills to adjust is necessary.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/data-shows-surprising-rebound-tech-141608296.html

Not false hope.

I’m hearing it from recruiters on LinkedIn and technical executives.

AI shuffled the cards but people still need engineers.

Who’s going to fix all of the garbage vibe-coded applications?

Devs who can ship entire products are winning

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Simple_Rooster3@reddit

Thank you for this post man! Actually boosted up my motivation to 100%. From -20%..

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waffleseggs@reddit

My sympathy for their slop repos couldn't be lower.

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xXxdethl0rdxXx@reddit

What are you doing? You’re making an advice post based purely on what, a personal anecdote? Why should anybody listen to you? People are anxious and worried about mortgages, and you thought you’d take it on yourself to tell them not to worry about all that because…you read a blog post? You had a talk over lunch with a colleague?

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MattDTO@reddit

If you want another source, I just read a reddit thread about a huge boom in software jobs! Trust me bro, no need to grind leetcode anymore. You will have recruiters breaking into your house on Monday.

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IceMichaelStorm@reddit

Actually happened to me last night. Damn, I thought it was a regular thief but no, it was a gang.

5 middle-aged men with short beard tried to break into a window and they managed. Anxious but also on fire I went there and screamed at them.

To my surprise they screamed back even more furiously asking if I’m a software engineer.

I said yes.

They continued to throw a bag of money at my feet and five contracts that I could sign immediately. They ran over each others mouths trying to point out how their company is better.

Puzzled I observed how they finally went off out of the broken window still arguing which contract was better, but leaving all five for me to sign at will, also keeping bags of money their for motivation.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

This is hilarious

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MattDTO@reddit

I'm so sorry they threw all that money at you! How traumatic!

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TwentyFirstRevenant@reddit

Thank you for speaking up about it. Must've not been easy. The nerve! And a lot of this going around too

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zimejin@reddit

🤣

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scrambledxtofu5@reddit

People are anxious and worried about mortgages

Perhaps a hot take, but experienced software engineers, with a high salary and being the logical problem solvers that they generally are, should have saved and invested their money intelligently for the many years that they have been employed.

No decade-long software engineer should be worried about not being able to pay their mortgage when they lose their job. And if they are, why the hell haven't they saved THOUSANDS of dollars in the bank/investments?

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Remarkable-Coat-9327@reddit

Perhaps a hot take, but experienced software engineers, with a high salary and being the logical problem solvers that they generally are, should have saved and invested their money intelligently for the many years that they have been employed.

god forbid a guy have a porn addiction

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xXxdethl0rdxXx@reddit

Many people in this community might have some form of autism, which could explain a low emotional intelligence. You seem to have something else entirely going on, and I don’t really care enough to speculate.

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scrambledxtofu5@reddit

Fair enough. Have a good weekend!

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StrawberryWaste9040@reddit

Majors with highest unemployment rates: Anthropology, computer engineering, computer science

That their you all you need to know. Good luck to you all

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PermabearsEatBeets@reddit

It’s also AI slop

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ThrowRAwhatToDew@reddit

Exactly. The entitlement is just pathetic and not grounded in reality

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Western_Objective209@reddit

no you don't get it he's got a SUPER hunch that AI slop code is collapsing and true devs will reign supreme again!

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metaphorm@reddit

Many orgs are suffering and its delightful to see

I don't take delight from suffering under any circumstances. this is a fucked up thing to say.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Fucked up indeed! And I love it !

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metaphorm@reddit

hatred and malice make the world into a hell on earth.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

I think you’re taking my pleasure in this too literally .

I don’t enjoy seeing people suffer however I don’t mind seeing people reap their consequences, especially after they treated their software developers like shit, which is very common in this industry.

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metaphorm@reddit

and I think the way we communicate matters a lot, and in a public forum, is more important than how we really feel about it on the interior.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Fair enough, I can respect that point of view

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Full-Extent-6533@reddit

Anecdotal slop. Why are posts like this allowed

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Because it doesn’t break any rules and it’s relevant. What kind of question is that lol

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MalaxesBaker@reddit

Things are good, things are bad, whatever. It doesn't matter. Why worry about what you can't control. What you can control is, invest in yourself, be your best advocate, and take passion in what you do. The economy and HR departments and managers and execs and VCs and whoever else will do God knows what and there isn't a damn thing any of us can do to change it, except being our best selves and possibly also making organized labor in software more mainstream.

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ryhaltswhiskey@reddit

Is there any evidence supporting any of this?

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gjionergqwebrlkbjg@reddit

Is this LinkedIn?

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jujubean67@reddit

This sub is so sad, how is this post so upvoted. Random person saying everything is rosy, upvotes to the left.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Companies hiring them again does not mean that everything’s rosy . Where did you even get that from?

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jujubean67@reddit

The premise is already false “companies” are not hiring again.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Yes they are.

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jujubean67@reddit

Lmao dude this entire post is a joke

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

If you took that statement literal, then yeah, saying that all companies are hiring software engineers again is false however, there are companies hiring software engineers again after they invested into their AI slop

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Feelings hurt my friend?

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jimmytoan@reddit

The AI slop cleanup premium is real and underappreciated. Teams that went all-in on codegen 18 months ago are now sitting on codebases nobody fully understands - including the AI that generated them. The orgs that kept experienced engineers who actually read the diffs are the ones not in crisis right now.

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magichronx@reddit

I still get emails from recruiters every now again, but I don't think any significant change has happened in recent months.

...And now I almost feel compelled to collect the data from my inbox to chart the trends over the past 5ish years just to see

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rudiXOR@reddit

What I see, is that they moved just a lot to other countries, where engineering is cheaper. I doubt that this will end soon.

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featherknife@reddit

and it's* delightful to see.

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svix_ftw@reddit

In this case the correct grammer is actually "its"

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featherknife@reddit

Why?

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svix_ftw@reddit

"its" as in "its delightful to see"

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featherknife@reddit

You want "it is delightful to see", therefore, "it's".

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svix_ftw@reddit

nope hes using it as a possesive pronoun, as in "its delightful to see"

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MatthewMob@reddit

Who's delightful?

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VintageModified@reddit

"its" is a determiner (like "the", "your", and "some"), and determiners only appear in noun phrases

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svix_ftw@reddit

lol just kidding, people are so serious about an apostrophe, lolol

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VintageModified@reddit

Ok troll

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svix_ftw@reddit

ok nerd lol

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No-Debt-1377@reddit

What if you are just very slow, often have problems finishing anything. I have a 100+ repos of code that is not finished or even works properly

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Typhon_Vex@reddit

Just be confident bro Now where did I hear that

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Middle_Property5528@reddit

Reading the comments has made me realise that skilling up is important, but interview prep is important too.

There's method to interviewing and lot of good developers miss out on good opportunities bcz they couldn't clear a system design, or a LC Medium.

Harsh as it is, this is the reality. Companies still rely on LC style questions to filter candidates.

People can start by skilling up. But also start interview preps. And especially if you're a senior. Learn how to design a system as it decides your level at big tech, and eventually your comp. Read Alex Xu's books. Use mockingly or hellointerview. Give many mocks.

This will really help you start cracking opportunities.

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xamott@reddit

This post is AI slop. It’s BS. No the “come rescue us from AI slop code” era has not begun. Obviously the mass layoffs are still happening. Wtf is the point of this post, karma farming?

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Idea-Aggressive@reddit

I’ve started looking yesterday, after finishing a short contract. Did see many opportunities, I generally find the same companies so I doubt they’re genuinely hiring, e.g. posthog. I don’t have a LinkedIn account and use the official websites, wellfounded, yc, HN, discord communities for official tech stack etc. Amy suggestion where to find these opportunities let me know!

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Glum_Worldliness4904@reddit

https://www.reuters.com/world/meta-targets-may-20-first-wave-layoffs-additional-cuts-later-2026-2026-04-17/

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skidmark_zuckerberg@reddit

Yes they are. I’ve been on the market for 3 weeks after a lay off and things have picked up from what I can tell. I’ve had a couple interviews this week (one today that didn’t go so well due to the panel of interviewers I had.. oh well) with 2 more next week. Recruiters are messaging a few times a week and some of my direct applications have received a phone screen with the expectation I will have interviews scheduled for those too.

I was not expecting this and quite honestly I am super overwhelmed now juggling all the conversations and interviews. I should’ve just taken the month off and reset but was worried I should just hit the ground running to get things going out of worry it’d be months of no responses. I’ve felt more mental load in the past 2 weeks than I ever do working on the job!

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mudskips@reddit

They're just hiring so that they have fodder for layoffs again the next cycle

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revel_in_it@reddit

cope harder code monkey

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

I'd say, if they take advantage of me, I'll take advantage of them. No remorse.

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FetaMight@reddit

Who are you?

You're giving cowboy advice from a position of what, experience?

How will you take advantage of them if they have all the leverage?

Empty words.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Just give them their lousy 40 hours and use the weekend time you would be using to catch up on deadlines to find more contracts lol.

I love getting let go because it forces me into a better situation.

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FetaMight@reddit

You make it sound like establishing a work life balance is a form of rebellion.

Never work unpaid time. Never.

Before you know it it's normalised and people feel like spend 2 days a week resting is akin to insurrection.

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Infamous_Sprinkles43@reddit

what's the context here

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ubermoxi@reddit

I have had this recruiter pinging me few times over the last several weeks. Not one of the big tech. But It's a well known company, everyone would know the name. I did interview with them like 5-6 years ago. But I'm too comfortable where I'm now. 😆

I may respond just because the job would be interesting.

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Local_Recording_2654@reddit

50$ op is unemployed

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skeletal88@reddit

What does it mean to "skill up"¿?

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Learn high demand skills that people don’t want to touch.

Skills that AI cannot automate easily, and that require an actual human being

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Whitchorence@reddit

Unless you're going to to venture a guess what skills those might be I don't think you're helping anyone.

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Fair point. Skills like system design combined with domain knowledge are a start. Cloud computing, writing agents that fit into business context

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uriejejejdjbejxijehd@reddit

Honestly, with the way inflation has been galloping and dev salaries have deflated, be sure to ask for more.

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confusedanteaters@reddit

My, and some peer's, experiences are the opposite of your last argument. Not seeing you are wrong, just saying that not all cases are the same. Almost every tech team in my company is a cost center. Consequently, we have low pressure from above to be competitive, innovate, etc. The qol and WLB reflects this. Examples include no AI usage mandate and unstrict deadlines.

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caiteha@reddit

I have a couple recruiters emails from the past 1 week

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LiveCommunication614@reddit

What to do when you cant put the projects u did on the company ? Because of privacy idk how to build my portfolio

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

You just need to learn not to give a fuck because each year that pass by you wont get it back and you shouldn't have to ask permission to showcase your work so you can get paid more money.

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LiveCommunication614@reddit

Thats true i have so much projects to talk about and i still didnt mention anyone except university projects

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Simple, swap their logo and title and say something like "an app I engineered for a ecommerce enterprise" instead of saying Walmart.

You have a right to talk about your accomplishments. Just don't share code or IP and you'll be fine.

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LiveCommunication614@reddit

I thought about this but sometimes u build a solution so specefic that changing a logo wouldnt be enough

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NUTTA_BUSTAH@reddit

Every NDA I have ever signed do not allow talking about them as accomplishments either and not very helpfully in an interview setting, but they can always probe for more generic questions you probably have answers to from experience :)

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CarryAdditional4870@reddit (OP)

Good point however most of the time they’ll never find out and they don’t even have enough resources of chase after you to sue you because you simply said that you built a SaaS for them that helped them increase their bottom line.

Any company that has a problem with me saying that can go fuck off and I’ll see them in court lol

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JustSatisfactory@reddit

You can talk about the technology you worked with and the scope of projects without giving details or links. Most people can't share the code they wrote from their jobs.

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