2" of barrel length is not enough to make a difference at this price point performance wise for any caliber offering.
compact is 1" shorter LOP (12.75" vs 13.75") - for reference that Ruger you shot had a LOP of 12.5-13.0 unless it was an ATI stock and the Henry .22's have a LOP of 14"
If you need the extra inch you lose from the standard to the compact, just throuw a butt pad on there to extend the LOP.
The only difference would be the length? It's not like it would also be smaller in my hands or something like that too? Sorry if this is a stupid question lol, like I said I'm pretty new to this and really want to make the right choice since 500 bucks is a decent bit of change (for me at least)
Thanks for the info. After seeing other comments and looking into it myself, it seems there are pretty easy to install trigger upgrades for the one without the accutrigger that could be had for only 20 bucks. Do you think that it would be worth getting the first gen and upgrading the trigger? It would then be full size and in my preferred color, but if you think the other ergonomics of the II would still be worth it over the cheaper one the I'd still consider it.
You do you, but you won't be able to do a proper trigger upgrade for the difference in price. The accutrigger is worth way more than a $20 alibaba (looking at you MCARBO) set of trigger shims.
Gen 1 stocks are also inferior to the Axis II in either standard, precision or compact config --not very stiff/lot of flex. So there's more money trying to bring the g1 up to the already low tier entry level hunting rifle.
Money spent in proper trigger and chassis upgrades will be nearly double the cost of just spending a few hundred more buying a better rifle than any axis could ever be in the first place.
I wound up getting the cheaper rifle, mainly because the earlier comments were wrong due to the confusing naming scheme. Both options were gen 3 stocks. One had the accutrigger but was a compact (and a kinda ugly looking green imo), the other was the standard trigger and full size.
As for the trigger upgrade, you're probably right, and it will probably come to annoy me down the line, but you have to keep in mind that I'm new to this whole thing. I've been burned before by overly investing in hobbies as I first get into them, before learning a bit down the line that it's not really for me. I have only owned and regularly shot a .22 lever rifle I got cheap a couple months ago and want to try a reasonable "next step" I'm not entirely sure if this is going to be the type of thing that I will still want to be sinking time and money in far enough down the line that I'd really start being affected by/appreciating the differences between different triggers. I understand that a cheapo rifle isn't gonna be as good as a one that costs hundreds more, and won't last me as long as a nicer one would, but I'm basically just dipping my toes in before I decide to / feel ready to dive deeper into the hobby.
So did I at first lol. I didn't think you were calling me cheap, don't worry. I didn't feel insulted at all. Its just that I see lots of comments about all sorts of things saying "don't buy that, get this (2x more expensive) thing instead!" And kinda felt like ranting about how the best value/investment long term doesn't always actually make the most sense.
When researching this gun I saw at least 5 comments from random people on other posts saying " don't get that 450 dollar rifle, this 1500 dollar one works way better." Which is such an absurd comment to make imo that it was sticking around in the back of my head and all came out here lol
PutridDropBear@reddit
XP just means scope is included.
Axis II is the better deal over an og Axis ( axis "I") for the accutrigger alone.
nmi5@reddit (OP)
Do you think that the difference between the og axis being a full size and the axis ii being a compact wouldn't be too big of an issue?
PutridDropBear@reddit
2" of barrel length is not enough to make a difference at this price point performance wise for any caliber offering.
compact is 1" shorter LOP (12.75" vs 13.75") - for reference that Ruger you shot had a LOP of 12.5-13.0 unless it was an ATI stock and the Henry .22's have a LOP of 14"
If you need the extra inch you lose from the standard to the compact, just throuw a butt pad on there to extend the LOP.
nmi5@reddit (OP)
The only difference would be the length? It's not like it would also be smaller in my hands or something like that too? Sorry if this is a stupid question lol, like I said I'm pretty new to this and really want to make the right choice since 500 bucks is a decent bit of change (for me at least)
PutridDropBear@reddit
Yeah just the length. LOP and overall (butt to muzzle)
nmi5@reddit (OP)
Thanks for the info. After seeing other comments and looking into it myself, it seems there are pretty easy to install trigger upgrades for the one without the accutrigger that could be had for only 20 bucks. Do you think that it would be worth getting the first gen and upgrading the trigger? It would then be full size and in my preferred color, but if you think the other ergonomics of the II would still be worth it over the cheaper one the I'd still consider it.
PutridDropBear@reddit
You do you, but you won't be able to do a proper trigger upgrade for the difference in price. The accutrigger is worth way more than a $20 alibaba (looking at you MCARBO) set of trigger shims.
Gen 1 stocks are also inferior to the Axis II in either standard, precision or compact config --not very stiff/lot of flex. So there's more money trying to bring the g1 up to the already low tier entry level hunting rifle.
Money spent in proper trigger and chassis upgrades will be nearly double the cost of just spending a few hundred more buying a better rifle than any axis could ever be in the first place.
nmi5@reddit (OP)
I wound up getting the cheaper rifle, mainly because the earlier comments were wrong due to the confusing naming scheme. Both options were gen 3 stocks. One had the accutrigger but was a compact (and a kinda ugly looking green imo), the other was the standard trigger and full size.
As for the trigger upgrade, you're probably right, and it will probably come to annoy me down the line, but you have to keep in mind that I'm new to this whole thing. I've been burned before by overly investing in hobbies as I first get into them, before learning a bit down the line that it's not really for me. I have only owned and regularly shot a .22 lever rifle I got cheap a couple months ago and want to try a reasonable "next step" I'm not entirely sure if this is going to be the type of thing that I will still want to be sinking time and money in far enough down the line that I'd really start being affected by/appreciating the differences between different triggers. I understand that a cheapo rifle isn't gonna be as good as a one that costs hundreds more, and won't last me as long as a nicer one would, but I'm basically just dipping my toes in before I decide to / feel ready to dive deeper into the hobby.
PutridDropBear@reddit
ah yeah it does get confusing -- I thought you were comparing a gen1 or 2 Axis to the new gen 3 Axis II
nmi5@reddit (OP)
So did I at first lol. I didn't think you were calling me cheap, don't worry. I didn't feel insulted at all. Its just that I see lots of comments about all sorts of things saying "don't buy that, get this (2x more expensive) thing instead!" And kinda felt like ranting about how the best value/investment long term doesn't always actually make the most sense.
When researching this gun I saw at least 5 comments from random people on other posts saying " don't get that 450 dollar rifle, this 1500 dollar one works way better." Which is such an absurd comment to make imo that it was sticking around in the back of my head and all came out here lol