Cybertruck Sales Were Inflated by a SpaceX Buying Spree
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Vortep1@reddit
Using taxpayer funds to buy cyber trucks?
bozza8@reddit
Spacex is a private company that gets government contracts to do things, but most of its money comes from non-governmental work.
Frankly, short of plutonium, spacex can buy whatever they want from whoever they want and it's not for the government to get an opinion, because the government money only goes on the government projects.
It'd be like saying a taxi firm can't buy japanese cars for any of their vehicles because they occasionally take fares from the local government.
ric2b@reddit
Over all of it's history? False.
gravis1982@reddit
Government invested in space x because they needed rockets. They made rockets.. they were paid for providing a service. Why do you hate Elon
ric2b@reddit
Because he steals valor from others, constantly lies and supports harmful political ideologies.
Why don't you?
gravis1982@reddit
harmful political ideologies? As in one of the two political parties in the US lol .
ric2b@reddit
Not just that but throughout Europe. But yes, I'd say the candidate he supported in the US has been damaging for the country.
gravis1982@reddit
In what way
StickyDaydreams@reddit
We don't know the answer (they're private ofc so don't report revenue granularly)
but it's almost certainly mostly starlink
No-Report4060@reddit
It's true. SpaceX has been profitable for quite a few years since the success of Falcon 9 and recently Starlink. They average like 1 launch every week, no other company or government came even close.
This kind of purchase should tickle the SEC and Tesla's investors. But saying that they use government funding to buy CT is just stupid.
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
They are profitable because 80 cents of every dollar they make is from NASA or the DOD
No-Report4060@reddit
And your point is? There are other private space launch companies, why don't NASA or DOD pour money into them? Why do they choose SpaceX? Remember that those contracts were signed before the current administration, just in case you try to pull that card.
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
ULA does a shitload of NSSL and other USG launches lmao. And New Glenn literally only launched for the first time in 2025 and is also NSSL certified. I don’t think you have the slightest clue what you’re talking about.
bozza8@reddit
Now, true.
Just because I worked for the government once (providing a service and not just being given the money for existing) doesn't mean I can't now spend my own money on what I want.
Same thing applies here.
Musks a cunt, but there is no claim this is somehow theft.
bc10551@reddit
Kinda convenient the company he owns is buying trucks from another company he essentially owns though
bozza8@reddit
Oh yeah, if I were a shareholder I think I would be quite pissed off actually and sell.
I am not a shareholder though so I don't really care, principles of free association and all that, if people want to give musk and his companies their money then that's their choice provided no laws are being broken.
tujuggernaut@reddit
SpaceX is private, so no one really knows the breakdown of revenue by source. Yes, it has been claimed that Starlink is 50-80% of the revenue.
no one has actually seen financial, these reports cite "sources familiar with the company’s financials".
there is talk of an IPO, so the appearance of a diverse revenue base would be important.
Last year revenue was reportedly $15-16B.
SpaceX has at least $22B worth of contracts (multi-year), not counting any classified contracts.
Some of the Starlink money is also from the gov't.
the Starshield network, which is exclusively gov't, runs on the same satellites.
crew transport to ISS $1.4B 2022-30
lunar lander $1.2B 2022+
resupply ISS, $3B outstanding as of 2025, cap of $14B.
deorbit ISS, $1B
NASA indefinite delivery/indefinite quantity” (IDIQ) launch contract, ongoing, $1.4B since 2010
National Security Space Launch Phase 3, $1B in 2025
Space Force Lane 1 contracts, $1B in 2024
Starlink NRO contract, $2B per year
DoD Basic Agreement for Devices and Starlink Subscription (BADASS) yes that's the real name - $1B
gravis1982@reddit
You are not informed. There is definitely an IPO.
bozza8@reddit
Ok, that is a lot of different things that the government is paying them to do, but it doesn't invalidate my point.
It's also that if you work for the government the government doesn't generally get a veto on what you do with the money they pay you for that, except for the money paid in advance.
So if spacex turned a profit working for the government they can buy a million cyber trucks and lay them out in the shape of a giant wang in the desert if they want, it's not theft from the government to do that.
tujuggernaut@reddit
I am not disputing that a private company, or actually most companies, are free to use their profits how they see fit. My issue is with the claim that SpaceX gets half their revenue from non-government sources. If it is true, I'd guess 2025 was the first year that would hold, but I'm skeptical of that claim altogether. That's all.
tablepennywad@reddit
Are you telling me you cannot be a shrimp producer, buy red lobster, and force them to do unlimited shrimp?
bozza8@reddit
You can, but if red lobster has already sold off all of its land then it becomes a loss-leader you have to sustain, and that's hard on a shrimp-farmer's budget.
Vertrixz@reddit
It's called ✨Fraud✨
StickyDaydreams@reddit
not to interrupt the circle jerk but this doesn't even make sense.
If any other government contractor - Lockheed, Booz Allen, Anduril, Microsoft - bought cybertrucks there wouldn't be anything fraudulent about it.
why's it fraud here?
asimo3089@reddit
The whole electric pickup market is a wreck. Even without SpaceX buying these in Q1 2026, it's still the #1 electric pickup because Ford left the space and Rivian isn't moving units.
procupine14@reddit
I wanted an EV that could actually pull my camping trailer without too much compromise. Just waiting for literally anyone to make something that can actually do real truck things.
asimo3089@reddit
Towing is a niche audience. It's not what killed the current crop of electric pickups. Pickups are mall crawlers.
Lucreth2@reddit
Towing is exactly the right scenario to bring out the worst of everything for a battery. it's bad enough with proper diesel (and some gas) tow rigs but at least there you can load up on 2 tanks and stops are easy to find and plan. You probably can't even regenerative brake properly due to the mass so you're losing on all sides.
strongmanass@reddit
Perhaps more important is the lack of desire in the opposite direction: EV buyers don't want trucks. IMO it's easier to convince EV buyers to buy a new form factor than convince ICE buyers to try EVs.
But really it's lose/lose. The truck owner stereotype is negative with EV buyers and the EV owner stereotype is negative with truck buyers.
asimo3089@reddit
Yup. If it's a ven diagram, there is very little overlap (today)
MaybeTheDoctor@reddit
I have my hopes for Slate being a form factor that can actually sell, but history doesn’t look great.
JIMatRK@reddit
Everyone talks about wanting a small pickup, but when small pickups were available everyone bought the bigger stuff.
Comms@reddit
I want a small truck for dump runs and Home Depot runs. But not as the primary vehicle. Me and my wife have one car because we both work from home. We have a nice sedan. A cheap-o truck would be a nice-to-have.
JIMatRK@reddit
Nice-to-haves don't keep a market segment financially viable though.
See also: affordable sports cars, offroaders.
skagoat@reddit
The problem is the small pickups cost almost as much as the bigger ones. MSRP on a Ranger $33k, $37k for a F-150. You're probably not paying MSRP for a F-150.
Mountain_Reveal4673@reddit
Does bro not know about Chery's pickup trucks?
RicardoMoyer@reddit
why does it freeze and stop working out of the blue and without explanation?
Tw0Rails@reddit
Keyword: MCLAREN engineer lol
RFK_Cum_Regimen@reddit
Part of that overlap is a third triangle called "under 50 and broke"
EnvironmentNo6861@reddit
Hi Asimo!!!
jheizer@reddit
You can split that venn even more to I have an EV, I have a truck, but I do truck stuff. Ex: multiple times per year I tow a large camper many hundreds of miles in a single day. Often through a lot of rural areas. Its just not a viable use case for an EV until we have "truck stop" chargers.
munche@reddit
Rivian is a great example, I like the jist of what they're doing but I don't want a truck or large SUV so I haven't looked at the brand at all. Eagerly awaiting the R3
Caster0@reddit
Yep, maybe if they were something more practical.
Suvs tend to be sold like hotcakes and I wager car companies would have a easy time pushing them if it wasn't for them being exorbitantly expensive and having a dealership model.
xrelaht@reddit
The truck market doesn’t want the EVs which have been offered to them. Only one has been body on frame (the F150) and somehow it was the lightest* one. People buying trucks just cuz they want one weren’t gonna go for an EV, but tradespeople might have if they weren’t priced out of it.
Meanwhile, ICE NARTs are pretty popular, and we already know what they look like: a BEV Maverick which stayed under $45k would probably sell, especially if it also stayed under 2 tons.
K_R_A_K_E_N-540@reddit
When Ford sells their cars to the US government is that inflating ? Or just regular sales?
doobi1908@reddit
Ford isn’t owned by the US government, and they mostly sell to police departments not the federal government.
Drzhivago138@reddit
The feds seem to mostly buy Tahoe/Suburbans.
e136@reddit
Do people expect SpaceX to buy F150s instead? If they need to vehicles, are they allowed to choose which vehicles to buy?
Photo_Synthetic@reddit
Generally Fords aren't purchased to pump up stock prices with our tax money so I'd say there IS something slightly questionable about the owner of a company that lives off government contracts using that taxpayer money to buy fleets of vehicles made by said owners other company. I'd have less of a problem if Elon was just using his own massive fortune (which is unfortunately ALSO pumped up by our tax dollars) to just buy these fleets himself but hey what can you do fraudsters gonna fraud.
e136@reddit
So for example, if more than half of SpaceX revenue was from sources other than government contracts, you'd be ok with it?
BlazinAzn38@reddit
Ford isn’t selling them to a different company owned by the owner of Ford is obviously the difference.
Capri280@reddit
So this is how I learn that Ford no longer owns Hertz .. and hasn't for 2 decades
PROfessorShred@reddit
yes and no. They usually break things down in investor meetings by what ever sounds good. So if overall numbers are down but they just signed a big contract they may try and push fleet sales are up over the past 3 quarters (they will leave out that its down from 4 quarters ago) or whatever fits their narrative. Usually fleet sales are sold at discounted rates so reminding people of what MSRP is right before saying number of units sold could absolutely paint an alternative reality. technically at the end of the day 1+1 =2 but theres a lot of ways to make things equal 2 at the end of the day.
willpc14@reddit
Jim Farley doesn't have a made up high level position in the federal government
PanadaTM@reddit
Well I'd say the difference is I actually see cops and federal employees driving around in f150's
shoppingfortruth@reddit
Someone should verify if those truck were actually delivered. Or is Govt money that Space X is getting being funneled to Tesla.
Recoil42@reddit
They were delivered. We know that because there's hundreds of them sitting parked outside Starbase near Boca Chica.
https://x.com/derek1ee/status/1984327579466154255
https://x.com/JoeTegtmeyer/status/1975932463160373667
https://x.com/bitstheen/status/2043374915642966499/photo/1
https://x.com/elon070129/status/2034267360182387125
Tw0Rails@reddit
Wow, pathetic.
Even cringier they call it a starbase.
BlazinAzn38@reddit
Anecdotally the tesla shop near me had probably 70-80 of them sitting on the lot and then 24 hours later they were all gone.
18voltbattery@reddit
Wild what you can do when you have an economics cheat code
MotelSans17@reddit
Step 1: Be a billionaire
Step 2: Don't be not a billion
megacookie@reddit
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Be a trillionaire
TulsaOUfan@reddit
Step 3: unethical business practice + retainer with Denny Crain, Harvey Specter, or Saul Goodman.
aron2295@reddit
It’s not a “cheat code”.
He has multiple companies.
Eventually, the music is going to stop.
He is just betting that he wins the game and is not left without a chair to sit on.
anthrax9999@reddit
Dude is nearly a trillionaire, he's already won. The only way he loses now is if he ODs on ketamine.
Sensitive_Paper2471@reddit
ah the famous daewoo model
RicardoMoyer@reddit
meh, how much is tesla gonna lose if they cancel the CT tomorrow, 1B? 10B?
markets been irrational on this smoke shop for far too long, if they fail now the dominoes are gonna topple, so, the gvt will do something about it and be a little more in debt by the end of it and that’s it
tech01x@reddit
This is a tiny part of their revenue.
Reddit_reader_2206@reddit
Same thing at the local dealership in my city.... hmmmm
RequirementsRelaxed@reddit
Did they drive themselves off the lot to spacex?
SirLoremIpsum@reddit
To be fair... seeing a convoy of 10 cybertrucks all in autonomous mode following a manned vehicle at the front would be pretty fucking funny / cool to see!
BlazinAzn38@reddit
I assume the same thing happened to them that happened to the 200+ Benz EQSs and EQBs that were in a dying mall’s parking lot near me as well. Aliens
Ruscidero@reddit
…to a new lot.
BlazinAzn38@reddit
Yes to the SpaceX lot
Uncle_Hephaestus@reddit
no 9ne else wanted them so we let musk us our tax money, given to him for space research, to prop up his failed experiments.
cereal7802@reddit
the better question is, are they full cybertrucks, or are they missing all the most expensive bits because they knew they were going to spacex? i would not be surprised to find out later that they were stripped out models sold as normal ones to spacex to further cook the books.
PetGorignak@reddit
That would definitely be something Elon would do, but no need because they had already built so many that they couldnt sell.
Granted, a "working" cyber truck is not that far removed from a stripped down hunk of junk
knowledgeable_diablo@reddit
Probably park them all under one of his rockets so they “accidentally” evaporate when one of his rockets takes off or fails to land correctly. Then boom, Insta insurance claim to cover the almost entire production run of these bits of crap.
Activehannes@reddit
Is this the most obvious display of government corruption in the US right now?
RFK_Cum_Regimen@reddit
Not even close by several orders of magnitude.
Activehannes@reddit
I am pretty sure there are worse things happening. I could list them for hours. But are they as obvious as bailing out an oligarch but planting a fleet of cybertrucks on a parking lot?
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They're as palpable as they are prolific.
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p3dal@reddit
Lately, it's hard to choose, but no, I'd say this isn't even very high up my list.
Activehannes@reddit
The first link from derek1ee looks dystopian
avwitcher@reddit
And there's no doubt nobody in charge of starting them and charging them while they sit there doing nothing. Cars DO NOT like to just sit in place, half of those will end up not running and becoming e-waste
xxBrun0xx@reddit
To be fair, EVs don't degrade from sitting nearly as much as ICE cars (battery might. But power train certainly doesn't). On the other hand, I would argue that all cyber trucks are eweaste because they're shitty and no one wants them.
Also, love the optimism. These were probably delivered without motors or batteries. Purely to scam the government that is totally complicit in the scam.
knowledgeable_diablo@reddit
They do degrade though. And in completely new and exciting ways people (and the OEM’s) are just starting to get their heads around. A big one is the 12v battery. Most people think “hmmm, huge 415v battery plus a 12v battery, obviously the little tiny battery can tap into and use the big boy to top its self up”. But no, a lot of them don’t and when the 12V battery dies then all the accessories die with it. And when all the access points are new and futuristically electronic, then all the doors to access the car stop working so opening them up to access the car to replace the 12v battery becomes a right royal pain in the arse. And without a constant trickle coming from the 12v to monitor and control the large batteries control modules, then they fail and die sending the large battery into chaos mode. So a flat car battery in ones wonderful EV can rapidly become a massive and quickly escalating repair bill that will render the vehicle a fiscal write off fairly quickly. But at least they don’t need an oil change I guess b
lontrinium@reddit
Ridiculous waste, plug them all in and use them to store excess solar.
gravis1982@reddit
Funneled? Space x is a private company that wins government grants for special things.
bozza8@reddit
SpaceX gets government money to do government work on a fixed-fee basis, it also gets private money to do private company things.
It's not government money that's paying for this, it's starlink money that's paying for this really.
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
In what way is the American taxpayer, who has paid for nearly everything SpaceX has ever done in one way or another, not paying for this?
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
Space-X also does commercial launches that are paid for by companies. The government pays for them because they are literally always the lowest bidder, and because their launches are the cheapest and the government provides them for a service. If they took some stance to refuse to use Space-X they would have to launch with another provider anyways for more money. The only reason why the government uses other providers is literally a charity case to provide redundancy.
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
The development of the Falcon 9 rocket was literally entirely paid for by NASA. SpaceX did not launch a single commercial payload until 2015, and that was a ride along, not a dedicated commercial launch.
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
Then they should’ve structured the COTS grants to take possession of the Falcon 9 IP afterwards. But since they didn’t SpaceX owns it now. And because no company would’ve been suicidal enough to sign a contract that allows for that so NASA would’ve have to develop it themselves.
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
The US government absolutely can and should use the defense production act to take complete control of SpaceX. I’m glad we agree!
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
Sure they can do that, just be prepared for the talented engineers to jump ship once RSUs no longer become an option and they get put in the GS scale. Then you just get another ULA or SLS. There’s a reason why the government won’t do it in peace time, because then aerospace engineers just jump to more lucrative peacetime industries like tech just like in the 90s.
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
SLS just sent people to the moon for the first time in 50 years and SpaceX can’t stop blowing up starships. The horror.
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
Listen, I’m happy Artemis II worked out and it’s a great thing for the aerospace industry, but you can’t deny that the SLS has suffered from Congressional meddling and has reduced scope greatly from the original goals of the Constellation program.
zerogee616@reddit
NASA does things well and private industry does different things well.
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
Yeah, I agree. For a program like Artemis where it is a primary focus of the agency and there isn’t a viable market outside of the program, it makes sense to develop a launch system specifically in house. For Falcon 9, where there are many customers including lower tier NASA projects, it makes sense to use a commercial launch provider. However using a commercial solution means the government is funding X payload at Y position, meaning once that is fulfilled, it’s no longer the government’s money, rather SpaceX’s money to use as they want to, which is the tradeoff made versus development in house. The fact is that SpaceX and other private launch companies wouldn’t work if they got nationalized and managed by the government and that’s a trade NASA is willing to make for cheaper launches.
zerogee616@reddit
I used to work in government aerospace.
SpaceX exists primarily so NASA doesn't have to deal with ISS and low earth orbit milk runs and instead focus on unprofitable but boundary pushing enterprises like the Artemis program and other miscellaneous scientific endeavors, and SpaceX has basically gotten it down to an assembly line at this point. It's not like they rediscovered some arcane art NASA forgot how to do.
The SLS boondoggle was primarily Boeing milking the shit out of its contract because of how it was structured and worded and NASA has changed how they do contracts specifically so something like that doesn't happen again. NASA being a government agency is unfortunately subject to politics and its budget changing every 4 years whereas SpaceX isn't.
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
You’re right on the money, I work in the industry as well. If SpaceX was improperly using development money you would see the contract terminated and claw backed like the what happened to the other contractors on the COTS and Commerical Crew. A dollar saved launching with SpaceX is a dollar that can be used to pay the scientists who make missions possible.
_Thorshammer_@reddit
Doesn't answer the question - from early grants to the current on going expenditures, the lion share of Space X funding comes from our taxes.
How is SpaceX buying Tesla vehicles not a way to transfer my tax dollars from SpaceX to tesla?
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
Because once the money leaves the government’s hands to pay for launch services then it’s no longer their money. If they wanted to prevent this the government could structure their contracts and grants or the board could step in and stop him from propping up his crappy car company but if they don’t then it’s not their money anymore. It’s not a way to transfer tax dollars to prop up Tesla, it’s literally a company receiving money for a service and using the excess to how they see fit afterwards.
_Thorshammer_@reddit
So, since about 80 cents of every dollar SpaceX receives comes from the US Government, my tax dollars are buying Teslas because the government hasn't said SpaceX can only use the other 20 cents to prop up another Musk company.
Got it.
Way to be technically correct in order to completely miss the point.
jlew715@reddit
It's not your tax dollars after the government pays it to a private entity though. Let me explain:
Your money --> you pay it to the government via taxes --> government has your tax dollars --> government spends your tax dollars by paying defense contractor --> defense contractor's money
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
Musk dudes wouldn’t get the point if you gift wrapped it to them and told them he made it himself
_Thorshammer_@reddit
Which he proved in his reply.
ClarryTheBerry@reddit
No the government pays a dollar for a service that costs 60 cents, which means as a private company they can use the 40 cents on other things they see fit.
Senatorial@reddit
Because contracting with the government doesn't automatically nationalize your company?
_Thorshammer_@reddit
When \~80% of your funding comes from tax dollars, calling yourself a "private"company is more than a little disingenuous.
Beyond that both Tesla and Skylink owe much of their early funding and / or ongoing revenue to government subsidies and contracts.
Shifting money between the three of them - when around 70% of that money comes from the taxes paid by American citizens - and then calling it "private funding" and disursing it to investors is intelectually the same as money lundering even if meets the curently laughable American standard of legal.
It's not even remotely the same as a company like GM - who's revenue is about 1% from American tax payers moving money around.
When your business model is "generate about 80% of our revenue from government fuding, shift that revenue to a sister company who ALSO generates more than 50% of it's revenue from American taxpayers, call it 'private investing' and then give those dollars to private entities as dividends" I don't really give a fuck if you've actually been nationalized - most of the money you earn and spend is MY tax money and I want it spent wisely, not shifted around between bank accounts so it meets the legal definition of "investent" so you can pass it out to your friends.
If I wanted to cut a check to rich people, I'd cut them a direct check. I don't need a fucking middle man pretending to give me something so he can skim off the top.
I know you won't read all of that and, even if you do, you'll find a way to explain why it's okay for Elon Musk to take my tax dollars, shift it from one bank account to another, and then give it to himself.
I don't give a fuck - save your breath.
Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit
Literally every space launcher ever has been government supported, it's not a bad thing but it's factually true and that includes SpaceX. They objectively exist and are successful because of government funding.
And SpaceX got to that point because the US government, as is their right and arguably responsibility as a superpower, wanted to avoid being reliant on Soyuz or Ariane. Both of which are very much government funded as well: the EU projects that led to the Ariane series were founded for exactly the same reasons in the 1960s/70s, and obviously the USSR wasn't gonna ask the US for launches at the time. It all leads back to governments wanting independent and economically viable ways to access space in the end.
bozza8@reddit
If I worked for the government once, providing a service (not just being paid to exist like ULA) then why does the government get a claim on what I do with my money now?
It's a private company, contracted by the government to do a job, one of many. As it happens, the other private company who had the same contract made a big loss despite getting more funding up front, proving there is risk of failure.
Musk may be a cunt, but this isn't theft, it's not morally wrong to work for the government.
aron2295@reddit
It says the data was pulled from registrations.
You can’t go to the DMV and register a a Purchase Order.
Magnus_The_Totem_Cat@reddit
So?
These are new vehicle fleet sales, absolutely no one from the DMV cares if the vehicles were actually delivered.
Ilddit@reddit
Even if theyre delivered it's no real difference. They either sit on a Tesla owned parking lot or a SpaceX owned parking lot.
Magnus_The_Totem_Cat@reddit
Did you mean to reply to me?
I was pointing out to the person I responded to that it does not matter if the vehicles were delivered for the purposes of fleet registration. Which would be in agreement with your point that it doesn’t matter where the vehicles are.
Ilddit@reddit
Yes, only to sorta support your comment regarding no one caring and it not making a difference if they were actually delivered. I think we are on the same page.
themickeymauser@reddit
Either way, they say on an Elon owned parking lot.
thisisjustascreename@reddit
Some Tesla sales manager got a fat bonus check though.
cereal7802@reddit
was no way that was a sales manager deal. tht action was arranged and credited way higher up the chain.
throwaway1212l@reddit
From Tesla's CEO to SpaceX's CEO
RequirementsRelaxed@reddit
Or Spacex could be paying rent to Tesla to just keep them in their lots
craichead@reddit
Yes you can, you walk in with a bill of sale and walk out with a registration.
EatSleepJeep@reddit
I think the NHTSA recall documentation proved they only sold about 70000 so far. Mushmouth promised a quarter million per year. Anyone that believes anything he says is a fool.
avboden@reddit
SpaceX has like 15 billion a year in annual revenue most from starlink. Gov funding is only a small portion from them. Whine about Tesla all you want but trying to take pot shots at SpaceX ain’t gonna work
Tricky-Ad7897@reddit
Ooh watch out everyone we got spacex's strongest warrior over here
bozza8@reddit
Doesn't make him wrong
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
Who do you think owns the Eastern and Western ranges that most of the Starlink deployments have launched from?
bozza8@reddit
The us government, which then leases them to SpaceX at a mutually agreed price, usually with a competitive bid, like they lease launchpads to ULA and other space companies.
In fact, ULA only launch from government owned facilities, spaceX are actually LESS dependent on us gov owned launch facilities than other companies because they have their own launch facility in Texas (admittedly that's not yet launched into orbit, but it's getting there)
prufflesthegreat@reddit
I see them at cape canaveral
g-4-ces@reddit
Tesla doesn’t need the money. Love him or hate him, gotta respect the fact that Musk will have created at least two trillion dollar companies once space x finally goes public this year.
magnament@reddit
They do have a lot of bids going, the one might be 1.75T
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Valuation is laughable. A lot of folks are gonna lose money.
g-4-ces@reddit
I’m gonna short it based on shmokesshweed’s analysis!
Shmokesshweed@reddit
You don't need to listen to me.
https://youtu.be/8rS3fTbC7TE
walnut100@reddit
Of course it is.
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gravis1982@reddit
So?
wweiss53@reddit
Defund SPACEX
ebfortin@reddit
They were bought at what price? Probably at a premium to funnel money from one side to the other.
Dachshand@reddit
O RLY?
chugalug_house@reddit
YA RLY
aschylus@reddit
Isn’t this “defrauding” investors of two companies? Can someone arrest this clown - Musk?
derouville@reddit
Someone needs to investigate if those were actual sales. Track those VINs. Did the truck ever exist or was it just a sale on paper?
SpaceghostLos@reddit
Duh
KaiserDogue@reddit
Cyber Trucks are ugly.
NombreCurioso1337@reddit
It is honestly astounding that the tail can wag the dog as long as it has
RicardoMoyer@reddit
I keep hearing this tin cans won’t sell, i keep offering 35k for a brand new one and they won’t take it
tech01x@reddit
Lol. This was known last year. It happened almost 6 months ago. Why is this being trotted out now?
Since then, Tesla introduced a new lower cost trim of the Cybertruck and they are sold out for the year.
ThatGuyFromCanadia@reddit
It’s interesting how Tesla has failed to meaningfully attract the higher end market with any of their models. The only models they actually move in any volume are lower trim models, ultimately putting a hard limit on the profitability of their car division.
Ok-Depth6073@reddit
With Tesla, every vehicle released from the factory is automatically counted as a revenue even if it is going to the warehouse to stock it. Then manipulate the books by year end.
Ruscidero@reddit
What a weird coincidence that SpaceX, after I’m sure what was a rigorous series of evaluations, found that the Cybertruck was the vehicle that best met their needs. What are the odds?!
w3bCraw1er@reddit
Pretty much everything about TSLA is fraud but hey who is checking.
splurb@reddit
Merging SpaceX with X, was a way to make X's finances look better and to pay off the loans Musk took out to by it. Now he's using SpaceX to prop up Tesla. Not really a surprise. The SpaceX/X/Tesla merger is just around the corner.
Admirable_Nothing@reddit
Nothing to see here, just standard market manipulation
PrivateMarkets@reddit
It’s not inflating the sales data. Fleet sales are included for any car manufacturer. Rental / government etc
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PROfessorShred@reddit
Wasn't this already well known?
Low-Umpire236@reddit
Sure, they’re removing public services from you and rescuing Tesla.
asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy@reddit
News Months ago: "Musk announces SpaceX will buy unsold Cybertrucks"
Today: "GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT SPACEX BOUGHT UNSOLD CYBERTRUCKS?!?!?!?!?!"
December 2025: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslainvestorsclub/comments/1ptfka0/spacex_is_buying_up_an_unfathomable_number_of/
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Witherino@reddit
Yeah... not all us are active in r/teslainvestorsclub to be up to date lol
asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy@reddit
Neither am I, but a targeted google search isn't difficult.
Witherino@reddit
You think most of us do targeted Google searches to keep up to date with tesla? Thats even less likely
asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy@reddit
News Months ago: "Musk announces SpaceX will buy unsold Cybertrucks"
Today: "GUYS DID YOU KNOW THAT SPACEX BOUGHT UNSOLD CYBERTRUCKS?!?!?!?!?!"
ManufacturerBest2758@reddit
This thread is literally filled with people denying that SpaceX did this and claiming they were private buyers
asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy@reddit
Updated my comment with sources for those people, haha
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Astramael@reddit
The shell game continues.
DudeWhereIsMyDuduk@reddit
The secret ingredient is always:
Legendary---@reddit
And then you check Tesla stock and it’s up 5% (vs. S&P being up just 1.25%)
totallybag@reddit
And when has Tesla's stock every followed logic?
b3rn13mac@reddit
this happened ages ago
did people not know?
theColeHardTruth@reddit
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