How many of us are getting selfish with our time left? The wife and I have four grown sons 2 daughter in laws and 3 grand kids. When we tell them we are going to mtns to ride sxs or booze cruising on the farm they look at us like we abandoned them.
Posted by Jbrivermaster@reddit | GenX | View on Reddit | 221 comments
Personal lives of a Gen X couple
Super-Ferret6387@reddit
My parents seem to have found a great balance between being there for us 4 kids and all the grandchildren and still having their “selfish” time. They always have at least one set day (usually Wednesdays) that they don’t babysit. That’s their day, don’t ask unless it’s an emergency. They travel a lot together. We take one big family trip to the beach each year. My dad reserves and pays for our rooms. One week for each of us, two weeks for my parents. The grandkids love to beg to be able to stay the extra week when we are all heading home and my parents are staying, but everybody knows that’s their time alone.
Purple_Love_797@reddit
Use your time how you want, but you have to remember effort goes both ways. You may need your kids one day, and you can’t be upset if they have the same mindset as you.
xAnxiousTulipx@reddit
I have a question OP, when your children were small did you leave them with their grandparents for extended periods of time? If so that is where this idea is coming from.
My young boomer generation parents used my grandparents as constant free childcare and now that their kids have children they want nothing, and I mean nothing to do with their grandchildren. One is retired and the other passed on at 61 :(
In my case because I live abroad it has zero to do with babysitting or going on vacation with my parents, I just want them to pretend to give a shit about their grandkids.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
No we did not. They were in the midst of management positions of their careers. My career took off after the birth of our second son in 2000 which allowed the wife to be home. I was the wild child proverbial bad boy dumbass high school drop-out. The wife was literally the valedictorian and by this time had her 1st masters. We were all about the kids. I had 28 days off at a time and we were probably too involved with our kids. I had to give up weed when I started my career and gave up alcohol out of necessity because we were always on the go. We have reunited with old friends, college friends and high school friends. Being a Gen XR high paying jobs were abundant. IMO millennials have it way rougher. Nobody watched us when we were little. If you was a boomer parent and wanted to succeed you better work your ass off in the 70’s and 80’s and your kids better be self sufficient. We were called the latch key generation for a reason.
JJQuantum@reddit
They need to get over it. You did your job raising them and now it’s time for you to do what you want instead of what they want. Too many adults kids only want their parents to be accessories to their lives instead of wanting them to have their own.
xAnxiousTulipx@reddit
Constant babysitting is one thing, and if it is a problem the grandparents should be clear about their boundaries. Otherwise, what is there to 'get over' why should an innocent grandchild be deprived of a relationship with a grandparent who loves and appreciates them?
Meetzorp@reddit
I wish I could be!
I'm 48 and got started having kids late so my two are 12 and 10. They have no living grandparents and their aunt and uncle live 900 miles away. Babysitting costs a mint.
So I never get to do fun things alone anymore. No full day mountain bike rambles. No leisurely mornings at car shows. No piddling around the ritzy shopping district trying on unfeasible clothing. I don't get "me time" anymore and I won't yet for quite a lot of years.
I love it for all of you who CAN get out and have some fun. Do it! You only got one life.
Mountain_Crab0813@reddit
Same - 47 here with a 13 and 12 year old in the midst of their prime with activities. I am a professional chauffeur and cheerleader from the stands.
My in laws did watch our kids when they were very young for years (so thankful) - and now they’re out all year long in their RV tooling around the US.
I know I will get time back, eventually for myself (and my husband), but it’s definitely rough right now. Would love to get out on my bike or a long run in the sun… just not in the cards right now.
Meetzorp@reddit
I honestly hope my kids don't have kids. It's just too hard these days. And if I became a grandmother I'd feel obligated to help with the grandkids, to the further detriment of my own time.
Quirky-Specialist-70@reddit
Same!
Prize_Ad6430@reddit
I love your honesty ❤️. I'm just a little angry that our boomer parents couldn't help us like my silent generation grandparents helped all of us.
Meetzorp@reddit
I have nobody left. My husband was early GeX(1966) and he died in an accident while I was pregnant with our second child. Both of his parents died within the next couple of years after he passed. Both of my own parents died in the past five years. It is very weird and isolating to have so little living family.
Prize_Ad6430@reddit
I am sorry for deleting my post. I felt like I was whining. My parents are deceased and my inlaws are deceased. All my aunts and uncles are deceased. I am one of the elders now and it's very weird to be the last.
Meetzorp@reddit
It really is very odd and not very pleasant. Holidays and special occasions seem a bit hollow and tiny without any extended family.
Mountain_Crab0813@reddit
Yea - I think this way as well, especially because the cost of childcare in the US is astronomical. I will probably take on the care giver role when they do have kids… but hoping for a few years of travel / alone time with my husband when they’re in college.
chamrockblarneystone@reddit
My wife and I can’t travel together right now because our dog is 15 and needs care.
My daughter got married 6 months ago to a great guy.
I feel like I’m in a race between life and death before I get to go on another vacation with my wife.
BulleitRyeCreeker@reddit
I mean it sounds like you probably did that before having kids right? You can still do things now.. it’s just different.
Meetzorp@reddit
Mostly I can't because I don't have any childcare. I only have a couple of babysitting possibilities and it costs a MINT to hire a sitter so I just can't get out and have my own time on a regular basis. I'm biding my time until they're teenagers with their own social lives and then, by God you'll be hard pressed to get me out of the woods!
dontgetmadgetdata@reddit
46 with a 12 year old and 2 year old. Wouldn’t change it for the world
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Prize_Ad6430@reddit
I'm 49 my son is 17. He is special needs and will be with my wife and me until my death. I don't even entertain the thought of golden years, I will have to grind to the end.
badchadrick@reddit
I’m sorry that is truly a hard thing to do. I hope you can find a way to get a few moments of self care here and there.
chamrockblarneystone@reddit
I was watching my brother and sister during my parents’ day trips, at 12. At 13 I was babysitting at night.
sensitivelydifficult@reddit
60 checking in with a fifteen year old daughter, my wife and I are starting to be able to do things by ourselves and we love it! Just hang in there a couple of years and they can start to take care of themselves a bit more (not quite like my parents going on a 2 week cruise when I was 14).
bluealien78@reddit
I was too selfish my time to even have children. I’m so glad I never did.
Kind_Worry_9836@reddit
Same here. I'm sitting in my recliner scrolling through Reddit and my wife is watching hockey on the couch. We did pretty much nothing all day with no distractions except for the occasional needy cat.
phunkygroovin@reddit
Not me now. I did it in reverse. I waited to have a kid until I was old and enjoyed my younger years doing as I desired. Now I'm an older parent of a young child and the thought of him staying home as an adult doesn't bother me. I hope I get to experience a grandchild before I die too. I absolutely love being a parent but I think it's because I waited until I actually really wanted to be one.
More_Pineapple3585@reddit
same here, traveled the world extensively, did shit I'd be jailed for now, lived it up. now I'm loving being a dad and glad I waited.
grinder_girl@reddit
I should’ve kept reading. I didn’t realize we got a crew here. Hell, yeah.
Prize_Ad6430@reddit
What kind of crew? My son is 17 with the mind of a 3 year old. He is bigger than me and my wife.I will be grinding until I die.
grinder_girl@reddit
Literally same and I’ve never seen anybody else say this or heard it for sure in person so I’m glad my logic doesn’t seem so out of this world to me maybe now
Cats-And-Brews@reddit
Definitely starting to put our time in front of our kids' time.
Our kids are struggling with mom and dad going on vacation without taking their schedules or availability into consideration - unless we need them to come by and feed the cats every now and then. We got an RV last November and my DIL recently sarcastically commented that we seem to be away more than we are home. Two of our three kids have no interest in having kids of their own ("we see the hell and expense we caused you and we want no part of that") and the oldest is slowly going from "most likely" to "maybe", so that "anchor" is becoming less of a possibility. And this week we hit a milestone - our youngest and her fiancee are planning a summer vacation, and THEY are inviting US and want to do all the planning. Nice change of pace. We'll travel up to the Great Lakes in July from Kansas City, and meet up with them in Indiana for a week, and then part ways and continue our extended trip. It's a nice place to be.
Vegaprime@reddit
As a Hoosier I must at least question your sanity on being excited to vacation here.
Vegaprime@reddit
Can't say I've ever been to the northern beach tho, cause Gary and all.
ExtremeCod2999@reddit
I'm in Terrible Haute and totally agree with you!!
Cats-And-Brews@reddit
It's close to the IN/MI border and on the lake (the Beachwalk community). So in my mind it's more like Michigan.
Strict-Archer9910@reddit
Most posts I relate to are my Gen X peers overwhelmed with their aging and declining parent(s) needing a lot of help. I can’t even imagine where your at.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
Honestly we are close to the same boat. We can only get away a few times each month for overniters. Maybe once a week for the wilderness sxs rides. Luckily our parents health is better than their minds. My father passed when I was 7 and mother is doing great for 72. Wife parents are 71 and 73. We actually try to take a huge family vacay once a year to Fort Walton Beach Florida and the whole family goes 4 generations worth. The wife is the heavy lifter of the marriage. I work a 28 days away and 28days home schedule. Luckily my income allowed her to be a stay at home mom. She manages all appts for parents and kids. I’m the electrician, mechanic, plumber, tree cutter and rescue ranger for the family. I was kinda in jest pointing out that we told the kids we wanted to be irresponsible and take time for us a few times a month. Even though they are self sustaining and we see them most every day it still freaks them out a lil. As I’m am writing this I’m 12 days in to a 28 day trip on the boat and she has 2 of the grandkids spending the night. While helping the 20 yr old and 23 yr old find hunting clothes for opening day or turkey season tomorrow in Ky.
Strict-Archer9910@reddit
Yeah when my folks were in their 70’s things were ok. Their 80’s changed the dynamic. My only child in her early 20’s and about to go to grad school so we are in different places! I’m not sure I’ll ever be a grandparent. I hope so.
Anyhow enjoy your spouse and family! Tomorrow isn’t promised.
Prize_Ad6430@reddit
I know it sounds horrible but I am kind of relieved that all my elders have passed.
Severe_Feedback_2590@reddit
I’ve always been selfish of my time. We’re childfree.
Three3Jane@reddit
Ours are 27, 22, 20, and 17. They all live with us.
We travel cross country every year to visit family and friends. We also take a few days' trip quarterly to decompress at a local cabin Airbnb.
The kids don't give us shit. The older ones have gone on vacation by themselves to different places.
They understand we need time away.
flbp@reddit
As a late gen xer and person with young kids. Help your offspring. It’s hard as F these days to raise kids. Your parents probably helped out heaps, it’s the god damn circle of life. Enjoy your time, but help the poor people that your brought into this world if you can. That look of despair is sometimes genuine. Look after yourselves, but look after your own family as well.
upsidedown-funnel@reddit
There’s so much resentment of parents towards kids on this post. When they lose their spouse and are left alone, with no on who wants to visit.. maybe then they’ll appreciate their kids?
Sapphire1166@reddit
Yup. Xennial here whose grandmother took me every Sunday morning to breakfast and church, along with countless other things (babysitting, musicals, the beach). My parents? Moved halfway across the country as soon as they retired and barely call.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
The two months I had dear kid, their grandparents moved 400 miles away.
Message send. So I didn’t bother them unless they called.
LessIsMore74@reddit
Yeah, there's definitely a balance that can be struck between finally enjoying Independence again and being there for the later stages in life of our young adult children. I think it depends on how we raise our kids—if we raise them to be independent or to come to us with every little concern. Hopefully they've also learned to build their own support system with spouses and friends. But if you have a healthy relationship with your kids, it's natural that they would still be in your life at least on a monthly basis.
ThroughRustAndRoot@reddit
As a late Gen Xer I couldn’t agree more. I value family and relationships. My kids are not having kids yet and still live at home, but I will 100% support them, with good boundaries of course. In the hardest part of being a young adult and child rearing my parents were not there. I had no relationship with my grandparents. My boomer parents wonder why we are not close when they spent decades avoiding me and their grandchildren. I won’t do the same thing.
Tess47@reddit
Old genx here. I got no help from my folks and my folks got no help from their parents. When I was a young mother, the concept would have weirded me out. I am Midwest usa.
The world is pretty big with lots of different types of people.
Parking-Cress-4661@reddit
Lots of post here remind me why we resented our parents.
upsidedown-funnel@reddit
Agreed. Parenting doesn’t stop at 18 or 30. You’ll always be a parent. I’ll always be there for my kids, no matter how old they get. My mom was always there for me, and I made sure she didn’t rot and die in an old folk home. I have a feeling a lot of people commenting here will be dumped in an old folks home and never understand why.
LessIsMore74@reddit
Please explain more. I didn't resent my parents. They were from the Silent generation. They did their best.
Adventurous-Egg-8818@reddit
I have 2 grown sons and they both have 2 kids each. They do not come to our home unless invited and we do the same. My husband and I do not babysit, we visit at their homes for a few hrs then leave. My husband and I love alone time and we travel.
wire67@reddit
Was actually just thinking about this. Just turned 59 and our daughter is having #2. I was there daily for the now 4 year old and enjoy a weekend with our grandson here and there but I'm not sure how I feel about a newborn and a 5 year old regularly. I'm feeling burned out on things in general and ready to buy a vacation home and spend a lot of time there. They would be welcome really anytime, just not sure I'm good in our current city AND more Grandparents time.
Lumpy_Tomorrow8462@reddit
My parents are in their early 70s and have spent the past 20 years travelling almost everywhere in the world. I am happy for them and appreciate the time they have spent with me and my family as does my sister for the time they spend with her family. I don’t understand this trend among younger people that want their parents to still actually parent them until they die. Those are the selfish ones.
MicheleRSimon@reddit
Brats! So glad I never had kids. Cats not kids is my motto!
Certain-Challenge43@reddit
I find all of this strange. My daughter (only child) went away to college and we’ve been going on fantastic trips. She complained that she hasn’t been on vacation. Lol I’m paying for her college with no loans. She can take her own vacation. We’re both still working and now checking off all the places we want to go on our bucket list. This is my time!
mclardass@reddit
Our child is very supportive of us spending their inheritance. We travel a lot, have a fun car, enjoy the "golden" years.. This is what we worked so hard for back in ancient times.
TheHandsOfFate@reddit
It's not really "their" inheritance until you die anyway.
Agreeable-Process-56@reddit
You think? You should read a few other postings where some younger folks talk about how they expect to get inheritances and how they essentially can’t wait until their older relatives die and leave their houses etc to them. It’s enough to make you rewrite your will and leave everything to a charity.
shuanm@reddit
My grown kids think they can show up, and drop the grand kids to go to the grocery store for 5 hours. My wife usually obliges them, but not me. I had to take their butts to the store. They can take their kids. When they told me that they were 18, and they could do what they want, I said go for it. Enjoy.
60threepio@reddit
Accompanying parents on mundane errands is how kids learn to do those errands. They can't be allowed to just skip the grocery store, bank, pharmacy, etc their entire lives, and then at eighteen be expected to know how to do it. This is why so many of the younger generation have an anxiety attack at the thought of getting their own groceries.
NvGable@reddit
Understandable, but also, the most important thing in life is spending time with people we love, because people don't live forever.
Professional-Bed1847@reddit
My wife and I are in our 60’s. We married young. We have 4 kids and 13 grandkids. To this day if we tell them we are going to go on vacation WITHOUT them, you would think we kicked their there puppy! They honestly get annoyed and jealous! I always tell them “ your mom and I sacrificed a lot for you kids while we were young. Now it’s our turn. Get over it!”😂😂😂
Madrona88@reddit
Beginning to think I won't have grandkids. So not an issue.
Beautiful_Arm8364@reddit
I can't even imagine giving a shit where my parents went in their spare time as an adult. Are they okay?
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
Sounds like the kids want child care services.
Adult kids will always have one or two friends whose parents do a ton of helping out. Cleaning their home. All things kid wrangling. Babysitting or taking the kids for the summer. Taking the kids to kid sports things.
That’s fine but not all parents are that involved in their adult children’s lives.
I’m 58 and none of my grandparents bothered with us, and my kid’s grandparents just wanted to see them at Easter and Christmas. 🤣
I think that’s where the angst comes from. Set of friends with parents that are majorly involved in their lives. So OP’s adult kids feel ripped off.
Curious_Instance_971@reddit
I just wish the grandparents would spend more time with their grandkids. Not babysitting- just spending time more than visiting 2x per year.
TotallyTruthy@reddit
I can explain the perspective as someone in the adult child's position. I'm not asking anyone to agree, have a change of heart, none of that. You obviously don't need to explain yourself to a stranger. But it seems sad to think of how many people are going to end their lives estranged from their families or without their esteem and won't understand why, so here's me trying to explain a few whys.
First, we remember our childhoods. We remember the super involved grandparents who provided our parents with free on-demand childcare and consistent, reliable after-school care. We didn't forget how much of a village or how much help our parents had, but it really seems like a lot of them have forgotten and replaced reality with some bootstraps fantasy. They've convinced themselves they were these hyperindividual superparents who "sacrificed so much" without any help from anyone, when in reality they had unquestioned access to the familial support that they call us entitled for even suggesting. But we didn't get the idea that family helps family from thin air, we got it by watching our grandparents be those kinds of parents (and from the 80s-90s level of household chores we were required to oversee to contribute to the family). The idea that family owes one another something died with our parents, it wasn't borne of our imaginations.
Second, the quotes around "sacrificed so much." Most of us under discussion here have kids of our own now, which means we're no longer just taking our parents' word for it that they "sacrificed so much" for us and trusting that we'd understand once we had kids of our own. I have my own child now, and any benefit of the doubt I had been extending is gone. My child is not some burden I'm "sacrificing" my life for. I hope to god I never, ever, lead her to think of herself as a burden or to feel guilty for existing. I chose to bring her into this world because I wanted very much for her to exist. I asked for this, not the other way around, and I am so grateful to her for making me a mom. I hope I'm a good enough mom that she'll be grateful for having me, too. But simply bringing her into existence and then maintaining that state won't cut it for making me a good mom. Providing her with food, shelter, clothing, medical care, and education is literally (LITERALLY) the legal bare minimum that I owe in exchange for the decision to have my her and isn't some spectacular, Herculean feat worthy of worship. Entirely too many of our parents martyr themselves for putting the bare minimum into a life choice they made for themselves, and we're seeing just how selfish that view is as we come to realise that that's not at all how we see our own children.
Finally, speaking of selfishness and the new perspective that parenthood gives us, a lot of us are coming to realize just how deep that selfishness runs in our parents and how callous it makes them. If someone suggested that one day I'd be jetting off on cruises or weekend warrior excursions while my child struggled to make ends meet, I would be deeply offended that they thought so little of my character. I can't imagine living it up on resources that I've specifically chosen not to use for the betterment of my family (that, again, I very specifically chose to have). It would all tatse like ash in my mouth. And I didn't realize or appreciate that until I had my own child. Until then, I extended the benefit of the doubt that of course anyone (parent or not) has the right to do with their money whatever they want. I hadn't built the mental bridge that the things we want to do and choose to do are still a reflection of the kind of person we are, regardless of whether we have the right or not. Being able to do something doesn't mean someone isn't selfish for doing it and "having the right" doesn't mean others are required to respect them or hold them in high esteem for doing it.
So that's some of the why, how some of us see it. We've spent our lives watching our parents gobble up help like they'd die if they were left on their own for even a day, then we listened to them complain endlessly about how hard done they were, then we found ourselves in the position they were in without even a fraction of the help they reveived, and we realized that our parents were actually the selfish and entitled ones all along. They haven't become selfish because this is who and how they've always been. We've just stopped pretending they're not, now that we can confirm definitively from the other side that they are.
Beautiful_Arm8364@reddit
As my wise old dad said (often): Want in one hand and shit in the other. See which one fills up first.
sugahack@reddit
My take is: it's good to want things. Builds character. My kids hated when I said this
truejabber@reddit
And I’m over here wishing my kids were around more.
Kiwi_lad_bot@reddit
Im trying to get my wife into this frame of mind. But she always insists on inviting family and it ruins my trip. Bickering, disappointment, end up paying for everyone.
Some trips I just dont both going. I know im just going to end up being the sober driver, Satnav and the ATM.
_ism_@reddit
they told me i was selfish a long time ago when i announced i wouldn't have children. now there's no one to tell me shit. win
RedditSkippy@reddit
Do it! My in-laws spent a lot of time in their 60s and 70s traveling. They’re now in their mid 80s and my mother-in-law is having some real mobility issues. They can’t travel anymore. I think they’re very happy they made the most of the time that they were able to go places.
L_wanderlust@reddit
What is selfish about doing that?? Nothing at all!
LissaBryan@reddit
That’s why I didn’t have kids. I wanted my time to always belong to me.
TouchingTheMirror@reddit
To paraphrase Sarah Silverman (who is childfree):
"It's not that I don't like children -- I love kids. But I like doing whatever I want, whenever I want to more."
But for me, I've never liked kids.
epicpillowcase@reddit
Other childfree Xers:
“I do think it’s awesome now that more women are expressing their desire to not have kids.” Heather Graham
"It's just not my bag" Leslie Bibb
"That sounds like the opposite of fun to me" Seth Rogen
"I don’t want to go through that. I like my freedom. I like being able to get up and go and move and do what I want to do. I don’t want to have to tend to someone all the time." Mary J Blige
PourU_25518@reddit
What is booze cruising on the farm? Is that like hay rides on a trailer with whiskey?
Electric-Sheepskin@reddit
I also want to know what riding SXS is
MaiHammyMawdul@reddit
I think OP invented an abbreviation for side by sides?
Electric-Sheepskin@reddit
Ah. I had to look that up too, lol. I guess I'm not a big ATV person.
PourU_25518@reddit
It’s a common abbreviation
inode71@reddit
Tell me more about this booze cruising on the farm concept - I feel it’s something I would like.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
I fill a 1 pint flask of Buffalo Trace and grab a Diet Coke. She takes a quart of lemonade pours enough out to add a 1/2 5th of Jack Daniel’s blackberry whiskey. Then we ride around on our property and some of the neighbors property in a sxs. We don’t get on the hwy. Mostly through the woods and around the fields. Turn up the radio and chill
MasterDave@reddit
I'd think they'd love it since it sounds like you've got a death wish and that means they'll get whatever you've got a little early.
But, at the same time they do probably want the grandkids to at least get old enough to remember the grandparents before they die. Cause that sounds dumb as hell at any age TBH, getting tanked and driving anything, even if it has a roll cage for an oopsie, seems like a poor choice of activities.
I mean y'all could just go find the local old person's swingers club, get blasted and fuck a lot instead and I'm gonna guess they wouldn't blink an eye.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
Well to each his own. I rode dirt bike and crotch rockets hard and survived that. I’m old enough to know people that done everything right and died early. Most people know 1000’s of ways to die, very few know how to live.
epicpillowcase@reddit
Except it's not just you at risk.
MasterDave@reddit
I mean, arguing that driving stuff drunk is knowing how to live is kind of absurd.
If you wanna die that's fine, just don't be confused when family isn't super thrilled with what you're doing. At least you're gonna do it off in the middle of nowhere and alone instead of in traffic with other people being victims.
epicpillowcase@reddit
What if you hit an animal due to being so "relaxed"?
BallsOutSally@reddit
Whoa!
Maybe it’s the amount of alcohol the two of you are loading up on is a concern to your kids.
inode71@reddit
Life goals my friend.
Rambo-u-drew1stblood@reddit
Your a boss hero .... your relationship sounds awesome.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
Well we don’t get to do it often as we would like but a few times a month. She has an image to uphold. I’m a US Merchant Marine aka Towboat Capt on the Mississippi River.
Existing-Loquat1760@reddit
Same!
Jensen1994@reddit
You ride sxs?
Where's this booze cruise farm?
temerairevm@reddit
I also need more info on the booze cruise farm.
poohdawg_789@reddit
thirded
DangerouslyOxidated@reddit
OP saving 2s by skipping a few letters, wasting time of hundreds of others trying to figure it out..
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
It’s a private place. If I tell everyone it won’t be private anymore. But Blue Holler off-road park, Wildcat Off-road park, Black Mtn off-road park, Gregory lake off-road park to name just a few. I don’t partake of alcohol until after the ride at the public parks but anything and everything goes. At nighttime it’s like being at a concert w/o adult supervision in the late 80’s or early 90’s.
epicpillowcase@reddit
Wait, are you saying you get drunk and wield a vehicle on private property? That sounds...incredibly stupid.
SouthOrlandoFather@reddit
Wait - your kids all live in the same area as you? How would they even know what you are doing?
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
2 of them literally bought houses less than 3 miles away.
SouthOrlandoFather@reddit
Wow. This is all in the same city where they were born?
epicpillowcase@reddit
Why is this unusual to you?
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
No way a city, county population of less than 10,000. Rural Ky 25 miles to the nearest hospital and McD. If the millennials live in the right spot lots of houses coming available because the late great Gen and boomer generation are passing on to the other side. A lot of old people don’t trust realtors or remax style sellers so it’s word of mouth sales.
PenguinSpectre@reddit
That sounds exactly like where I grew up in rural Missouri. I know families there — my cousins among them — whose kids did and are doing the same thing you describe.
BasilPlumley@reddit
It's not looking like my wife and I are going to have any grandkids.
Be thankful for the hassle.
Intrepid_Card8858@reddit
Neither one of my kids are having children so no grandkids here either. Are you sad about it? Posters are offering hugs. Just curious. I'm a stranger. You absolutely don't have to answer.
BasilPlumley@reddit
Yeah, it's starting to bother me. I never thought it would, but as I got into my mid 50s and my friends/classmates/coworkers are starting to pile up grandkids it has. My thoughts have turned to a couple of my aunts and uncles that were childless, and I remember thinking, as a young person, how weird and sad it was. Old Aunt Sylvie, who always bought me weird shit for Christmas bc she had no children of her own. Now I am contemplating the view from the other side of that glass.
epicpillowcase@reddit
I hope that doesn't also mean that you think they owe you grandkids/are letting you down by not having them.
It's ok to feel your feelings but it should never be an expectation.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
Sorry to hear that myself. I am thankful for the hassle. Adopt a neighbor grandkid. You can’t throw a rock in Ky without hitting an absent pos parent.
worstpartyever@reddit
I’m sorry. Sending a hug.
Jbrivermaster@reddit (OP)
It’s just funny to me. 2 of the four graduated University of Kentucky and is doing great. 1 of them followed me in the trades and is doing great. The youngest is in University of Louisville nursing program. They are respectful to us but literally watch us drive off in the RZR with the look of abandonment. Especially since we both didn’t party or drink much between 2000 and 2024. Now it’s like 1992 all over again for us. 30 yrs of marriage but the kids have never seen this side of us. The grand kids are 11 months, 1 yr old and 2 yrs old. We made a conscious decision to have fun before we became doting grandparents.
crossstitchbeotch@reddit
Do you guys babysit for them? That might be why they are sad.
Late_Homework_2705@reddit
No grandkids yet but I pet sit!
Late_Homework_2705@reddit
My grown and flown child is not a fan of my reclaimed fun life either.
Ok-Entertainment5045@reddit
Yeah well whatever, who cares what they think anyway 😂
crashin70@reddit
They will be all right, they have their own lives now. Go out and enjoy yourself finally with no strings to hold you back!
ForwardSlash813@reddit
Primary job as parents is to raise kids that don’t need parents.
sas317@reddit
There's nothing wrong with being selfish. Every person needs to do things that they want to do, not what others want them to do. If they look like you're abandoning them, be glad that they want you around.
Jeepin_4_Life@reddit
Our kids are grown but we still cherish our time with them. They have their own lives and family (one is newlyweds/the other getting married later this year - no grandkids yet), so my husband and I do get to enjoy our empty nesting and they seem to love that for us…lol We know that when/if grandkids are in the picture, our priorities will change to an extent and we look forward to that day. I don’t think it is selfish at all to want to do for you with your kids grown and out of the house. It’s been fun for my husband and I to act young again and have a life. I also know the struggle of raising a family without the closeness of cousins and grandparents. We want to be there as much as can - as much as they want us to anyway…lol
theghostofcslewis@reddit
Ours are 20,25, and 32. We enjoy it when they take a trip to the mountains or overseas with us. I recently told them that Mommy and Daddy will be taking more trips without them as we enter the Fall of our lives.
Harley_Mom@reddit
All my friends with grandkids especially 1 of them always babysit and never have time for themselves. She retired to become a babysitter. They live their grandkids but no time for themselves. I never did that to my in-laws they begged us to bring our daughter down for the day.
MasterChiefette@reddit
You do you. Did you raise your kids? Are they out on their own? If both answers are yes. Then you've done all you need to do. Just tell your kids you love them, but your going to go live what little life you have left. Leave it at that. If they can't accept it, the hats their problem and they are being selfish.
cbmc18@reddit
My husband and I became more self interested in 2023. We moved more than 3000 miles from the family and getting ready to leave the US all together. We still do things for our only child and grandchildren, but less than when lived near them.
deelee70@reddit
I was very grumpy after our recent family holiday. Both our 20plus daughters and one of the boyfriends live with us, so it just felt like we’d transplanted our day to day life to a holiday house at great expense to us. It was not fun.
I’m banning family holidays now- I’ll be pushing for fun romantic getaways just the two of us. I can’t wait until they move out so we can down size our house & mortgage & go on big overseas trips. Sadly they are dragging their heels & I’m OVER IT!! It would be nice to not live in a share house!
oulipopcorn@reddit
They don’t have the same opportunities you did.
Huh-what-2025@reddit
regardless, it’s still their life to live. At some point they are going to have to figure it out. Having a nice cushy place to stay without the responsibility of all your bills and what not will actually keep you from sorting your life.
deelee70@reddit
Yeah, not true - I said the same thing about our boomer parents. It might have been different for you, but I did not & do not have a lot of opportunities or money. Now I’m in my last years of work (not my choice) I’m burdened with massive debt to maintain our family house which may cripple us post retirement if we don’t sell soon.
Tess47@reddit
Wow, that sounds exhausting. I ended up having to front load a ton of chores on one of my boys until he finally found moving out to be the better option. Maybe thats an option.
Huh-what-2025@reddit
set a deadline
deelee70@reddit
lol, we keep doing so, but there are always “complications” & my husband is a soft touch! Crossing everything it happens soon for my eldest & her boyfriend.
CityCabCat@reddit
Yes, definitely
PolPotDomeScandal@reddit
I’m all for booze cruising on the farm! 😃
Who’s with me?!?!!!
mmmmmarty@reddit
At least 4 nights a week, except during deer season.
"Who wants to go check the fence?"
Comfortable-Past7766@reddit
Not selfish at all, wife and I cruise and travel all we can and will do more when we retire. As people who have worked hard all our life , pretty sure we have earned it as I think you have to.
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largos7289@reddit
if only i could convince my wife... they are grown ass adults. But for some reason we still gotta drag 22yr old with us. At that age i did NOT want to be hanging out with my parents. However i think that done was on purpose for years.
Dogzillas_Mom@reddit
I don’t think it’s selfish. Who are you depriving of care by putting yourself first for a change? You’ve worked your entire life and now you want to feel guilty for enjoying the fruits of your labor? Reframe it, man.
beeniecal@reddit
I do think it’s a balance between letting everyone live their own lives and being there for each other. My mom was so obviously happy to get me out of the house at 16 that it hurt my feelings. Until I had kids she really was uninterested and after the kids she was interested in them when it was convenient. Now that my step dad is gone she is looking around and wondering why we aren’t close.
I try to keep that in mind with my adult kids. Relationships are built day by day.
zappyface1@reddit
My husband and take off regularly on weekends trips and tell our son to enjoy the quiet. Our son knows that this is our time and we do still work hard. We do plan trips with him but he knows we need our time.
BlueJewFL@reddit
Currently living my best life on a European vacation and the 21 year old still calling daily 😂
MetalSufficient9522@reddit
Don't answer unless *actual* emergency.
allaboutthismoment@reddit
the wife
LeighofMar@reddit
Since 40. Young empty nester and loving it 8 years now. I raised him to be hyper independent like myself and he's living his dream in a small tourist beach side town. I'm living mine with epic cross-country road trips in my future. We text each other about our lives and then get back to living. If not now, when?
cran-mangosteen@reddit
My kids, 30F, 22F, 19F, and I have an agreement: Don't bother me, and I won't bother you. They're responsible adults with their own lives, and if they need something, they let me know. But for the most part, we have our own lives and rarely interact outside of pet and grandkid pictures.
Sapphire1166@reddit
Unless you have some sort of falling out with your kids this is sort of sad. Rarely interacting outside of pictures with the people you raised since birth and saw daily for decades?
cran-mangosteen@reddit
My oldest is a corporate lawyer so she's pretty busy and has no interest in children or family of her own. The middle one has a family of her own and does concierge work. The youngest is trans and I probably spend the most time with them. He's friends with my boyfriend who is also trans so I see him the most since he's kind of an artist/slacker so he has spare time and we have a similar friend group and interests.
My post probably came off harsh. By bother I mean we don't involve ourselves in each other's lives unnecessarily. We all do what we want when we want. We talk occasionally but most communication is the pet/kids variety. I get random pictures of cats/dogs/grandkids with no context all the time. If the youngest decides to spend a month overseas he's not asking for approval but he'll let me know he's going to be going. I wish him well and tell him to grab me a hoodie from somewhere cool. If the middle one needs to borrow my car or just needs a ride she'll let me know and I take care of it. We just have no need to be involved in the day to day goings on of each other's lives.
yangstyle@reddit
I agree. I have a fifteen year old now. I dread but look forward to him going to college. Love is a difficult thing.
AdvancedParamedic799@reddit
My brother and sister in law are like this towards my parents and my brother in law and his wife guilt trip their folks too… I don’t get it. I am 41. They’re between are between 39 and 45.
I understand the wanting and needing support, but you need to hash out those expectations prior. Something I learned, nothing I did. But if you expect grandma to be at our house just because gave her a grand baby, you may find grandma on a Harley instead!
SprinklesGood3144@reddit
Yes, definitely getting more selfish, and I don't even have kids! After seeing my father through a horrible couple of years of illness before he died, I just knew I would spend the rest of my life doing as much traveling and pleasure-seeking as possible. Still working full time, so all my time off is for me!!!
DueConversation5269@reddit
no matter what you do, how good you've done it, how long you’ve it for, how much you got paid or who you know.... your time is thee most valuable thing you have. no matter what you can get or buy more. So, pick and choose wisely who you care to spend it with and cherish the time before you cant! although nothing wrong with a little you time here and there :-)
BT_Artist@reddit
Have to admit I'm curious what it means to "ride sxs."
Thirsty-Barbarian@reddit
I was hoping it was short for “sex stuff”. Kids don’t like it when the parents announce they are going to the mountains to ride sex stuff.
NyxPetalSpike@reddit
Why not both?😜
BT_Artist@reddit
This sounds like the right answer to me.
408jay@reddit
4 wheel off road vehicles - looks fun!
nte52@reddit
Ride side by side.
Zealousideal-Ice-814@reddit
4 years and I retire with 40 years of service 8 military, 32 federal at 58, our kids are grown, finished school and have good jobs. My wife and I took them on vacations every years, SeaWorld, fiesta texas, grand canyon, Colorado, Utah new mexico, Florida, California Washington state to name a few. Yes they ate like mom ,dad are you all taking us, if they wanna go mo problem ill foot the bill but Like my wife says we can leave anytime we take our dogs and go and we do, like she says we are getting older and never how long we have so we are going to enjoy our lives!
Ceorl_Lounge@reddit
My kids are still at home, but we were talking about this last night. I'll want to help in retirement, but I think it's important we not be the ONLY source of it. Not skipping out on travel because they need a dog/babysitter.
Still-Syrup-438@reddit
Having a life and your own interest isn't being selfish. I sent my kids to overnight camps, and they occasionally visited relatives for entire weekends when they were young so they had no issues with longer separations when they were adults. When I tell them I'm driving from ME to FL, staying on a beach for a week, etc.. they are happy for me, not weird about it.
DogsAreOurFriends@reddit
🤷♂️
Ok_Orchid7131@reddit
What’s SXS precious?
Moontoya@reddit
Driving ATVs/quads/buggies on mountain trails, I _think_
https://can-am.brp.com/off-road/ca/en/models/usages/trail/best-atv-sxs-for-trail-riding.html
Ianthin1@reddit
Side by side all terrain vehicle.
Solo_is_dead@reddit
That's not what I thought that stood for 👀
StrawberryKiss2559@reddit
Lol this reminds me of Napoleon Dynamite’s grandma leaving for the week to ride ATVs on the dunes.
Able_Performer1638@reddit
😆
jibarohatillo@reddit
Live your life, you already did your part as a parent
Andyman1973@reddit
If you were dropping off the grid for months at a time, I could see it. But for a week or two here and there, don’t make sense. Till mom (76) had emergency surgery for a brain bleed last year, my folks went on several bus trips a year(4-6 days long), easy peasy.
thebronzeprince@reddit
What’s wrong with being selfish? If you don’t take care of your own needs first and foremost, who will?
Tess47@reddit
I dont think its selfish. We are not the Giving Tree. That book was a scam. Lol
Ray_The_Engineer@reddit
How is this selfish, again? Live your life.
Existing-Hawk5204@reddit
What the hell did you just say?
afternever@reddit
Flipping a grunt
StinkyCoach@reddit
Wait, I was supposed to have kids
Ms-Anthrop@reddit
Its not mandatory
krneki534@reddit
Judging by the decline in natality, more and more each year.
Acceptable_Reality10@reddit
Nothing wrong with doing what you want to do. My wife and I choose hanging with our kids and grandkids someday. We’ve always been very family centric with my brothers and my nieces nephews. It is fun to just hang with my wife and we do trips or weekends just us going somewhere or just sitting around the house naked also. Enjoy your time whatever it is.
flbp@reddit
As a late gen xer and person with young kids. Help your offspring. It’s hard as F these days to raise kids. Your parents probably helped out heaps, it’s the god damn circle of life. Enjoy your time, but help the poor people that your brought into this world if you can. That look of despair is sometimes genuine. Look after yourselves, but look after your own family as well.
c_r_a_s_i_a_n@reddit
I like to ride sxs.
BoundGreef@reddit
“The wife”
TouchingTheMirror@reddit
It's pretty common Boomer-talk, and in my experience, not uncommon among GenX-ers. "The wife," "the husband."
SuzannaMK@reddit
The Boomers used to drive around with bumper stickers on their RVs that said, "Spending our children's inheritance!"
My parents are Silent Generation and in their mid-80s. They had quite a few international trips between 60 and 70.
My youngest isn't out of high school yet. And I'm not going to be as well off as my own folks are, so no major international trips for me.
My folks raised my brothers and me with very little contact with our grandparents, but they themselves have been much more present for my children, and my kids LOVE my parents. I didn't have that type of relationship with my own grandparents. If I'm lucky enough to have grandchildren, I would like to stick around for them when I can.
But I think you should enjoy your life as you see fit.
TouchingTheMirror@reddit
I've always been "selfish" with my time: it's one of the many reasons I never became a parent. I never wanted to supplant my own goals and endeavors with raising children.
rollinrob@reddit
I retired about 7 months ago. 6 months ago I went to Thailand and left my house and two dogs with my daughters. I'm charging them a bit of rent as well. I left my house to them so they are living as independent adults but taking care of my dogs. They don't want us at home. They understand my wife and I are living an incredible dream and this is temporary. I'll be back when I have grandkids. Hopefully that's at least 5 years away.
doglady1342@reddit
Live your life! My husband and I have one adult son. He's in his mid-20s and he lives with us. We have a guest suite of rooms, so he has ample space. He works and could easily move out, but, he's saving money and looking for a different job. His field is not doing so great right now.
It's working well for all of us right now. We travel quite a lot. He takes care of the house and watches the dogs. Our dogs are pretty old and basically sleep all day, but his work schedule is flexible, so they don't get left at home all day. Our son doesn't think a thing about us going off and doing what we want to do. Of course, I'm a person who pretty much always does what I want to do anyway. Sometimes we are only gone a week, but we take longer trips too. We'll be gone for 3 weeks in September and almost a full month at the end of the year.
maddog2271@reddit
Our daughter is 19 and she reacts so funny as she realizes that we are not serving as an on-call full service hotel and catering enterprise centered around her comings and goings. She clearly doesn’t see us as autonomous human beings yet because she is still in those late teen years. 😂
CartographerTall1967@reddit
Fuckem, you raised them, enjoy your time with the wife, little crotch goblins should be glad they alive and made it to adulthood
Cowboy_Buddha@reddit
I don't have kids, but I've inherited stuff from older boomer siblings, and I've gotten much more serious about downsizing and getting rid of stuff.
Groovychick1978@reddit
Omg, I know! What the hell? Can't y'all go and do your own thing for once? It's just us this time. Deal.
calbearlupe@reddit
Once your kids are grown it’s time to be selfish because life is short. Don’t feel bad about it. They’ll do the same thing when they’re your age. It’s the circle of life.
Live long and prosper
LayerNo3634@reddit
Husband and I travel, but also love spending time with our kids and grandkids. You can do both. Is it they don't want you gone or they don't like where you're going? There is a difference. We go to a nude beach on a Caribbean island every year or so and our kids freaked when they found out. They don't like us going there, but are starting to accept it. Last time, one of them said, "wear plenty of sunscreen." They have no problem with our other vacations.
NoAbbreviations290@reddit
I’m trying to get out of hanging out with my parents all the time.
DantesGame@reddit
I can identify with that, and at the same time, as long as I draw breath, I will try to spend as much time as I can with my little family, as long as they let me.
One lifetime isn't enough.
Head_Trick_9932@reddit
I still have two teens (started late lol) and I’m counting down to taking off. 5 years but who’s counting? They’ll be alright.
Old_Goat_Ninja@reddit
We don’t have grandkids. We have grown kids though. Wife and I go off and do our thing all the time now. We still love our kids of course but for decades we raised kids, now it’s OUR time before we get too old to do anything.
Nihlisa666@reddit
Same, but only one kiddo.
USN_CB8@reddit
Single Dad of 4 for 16 years. They are all grown now. When I am going to rip it up they don't even blink an eye.
CalOkie6250@reddit
I have an almost 20yr old still at home. I was so looking forward to her going off to college. My husband and I wanted to buy an RV and just live on the road for a while, going wherever we wanted to go. That’s not happening any time soon. 😞
TJH99x@reddit
Sounds like you have a house sitter while you’re off on your adventures!
Boosba@reddit
But you have a free house sitter!
Fun_Independent_7529@reddit
Was the plan to sell the house? Otherwise, why not? She's 20, perfect age for house-sitting.
DiceyPisces@reddit
The kids are gone! but the grandkid is here 4 days a week lol
hesathomes@reddit
We throw almost all our effort towards our kids/stepkids. Absent that we vacation where and when we want. Idk if that answers your question.
AnastasiaNo70@reddit
We feel the same. I retired at the end of 2024 and now he’s wanting to go part time until he retires and we want to spend all our time together.
ProfessionalLime2237@reddit
Not your job to raise their kids, btw.
MrBlahg@reddit
Few years ago when my oldest was away at college, she came back to see I got a Miata. She said, “There are only two seats?”
“Yes.. yes there are.”
MWoolf71@reddit
We did a big vacation with some of my wife’s family last year. The nephew who is “gentle parenting” 3 out of control kids with his wife weren’t able to come. My wife was disappointed and said “it’s too bad they couldn’t come” and I thought she was nuts. Multiple meltdowns on the daily? Eff that.
If I’m taking time off of work and spending money to stay some place, I’m looking for peace and quiet. If I wanted drama, I would stay at work where at least I’m on the clock.
bostyluv@reddit
And how many years did you spend raising those children? Now they are grown and you most definitely are allowed to spend your free time however you so choose, that's not being selfish that's called self care,something you probably had to give up because the kids needs always came first. What is selfish is when the adult children expect you to give up all of your time & the things that bring you joy as you enter into your later years. Sometimes the kids forget Mom & Dad are people too not just Mom & Dad. 🤷♀️
Commisceo@reddit
I must admit that this phase of my life is all about me and my wife. I hope that’s selfish. I want to be selfish for once. Somehow, this is our time to thrive.
JanaT2@reddit
I know people that only want to do family stuff and never want to do stuff with their spouse alone
coyocat@reddit
U did your time. Gotta live your life too. That's Y I wish my folks t/ best On whatever it is that they do 😇
soleiles1@reddit
Yup. I am way less tolerant of bullshit and preserving my peace and time since I turned 50 over a year ago. Especially with family. I am done putting in all the effort when they don't reciprocate.
templeofthemadcow@reddit
We when to Maui just the two of us for the first time without friends or family it was lovely. Space is a thing for sure.
BokChoyJr@reddit
So much for “it takes a village”.
No kids here. Married for 32 years. We know what causes pregnancy and how to avoid it.
Lopsided_Orange_2177@reddit
Me and my wife do the same.