Why people are working so hard?Does it makes sense
Posted by lifeexperien@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 98 comments
I seriously do not understand why people are working so hard. I have been reading about climate change since 2018, that we will be breaching 1.5 degree Celsius.Now we have breached it. I have found that it is going to have devastating consequences. Nobody cares. I have seen a similar thing with AI nobody used to care. I remeber listening to Jack Ma in 2017(https://youtu.be/DIhudEzOU0I?si=UX0XlvN0O14-Iu8C). At that time I used to read news about AI that the video models were created that could create deepfake videos. Why I believed him that time? Because I have seen a lot of development in my area. My father told me that extremely few people owned cars before 1992 and infrastructure was not much. Much of the development started after that. I have seen the evolution of my area in Bhopal, Madhya Pradesh in the last 20 years. It has transformed. Seeing past progress in technology(internet and other things) I felt that AI is possible. I was also reading about Jack Ma he said that he went against all odds to build Alibaba. That gave me the confidence that AI will change the world by 2030. But I was wrong. Today everyone believes in AI but they earlier never took it into account. It needs large data centers to run. I have read the news that US companies are investing in India to build data centers but it seems to me that they do not know that the growth of climate change is exponential. So I am not sure how these data centers will survive climate change. Apart from climate change, the major reason I feel that working hard to make money is not worth it because quality of life is degrading. If you would have bought a vehicle in 2000 vs compared to today, you will find that vehicles in 2000 had a better quality. This has happened with other things as well. It has happened even with food. I remember I started eating dominos pizza in 2011 and I loved eating it till 2019. I did not eat it after Covid-19, then when I ate I found that taste and quality degrading since 2022 and now in 2026, I do not feel like I will ever go to dominos again. Similarly for mac donalds. Even a simple mac aloo tikki tasted much better in 2011 but when I last ate mac donalds in 2021, I decided I will not eat here again. Taste was bad. Now when I eat food at my local outlet like Sagar Gaire I have felt the decline in quality.
The unfortunate truth is that 99% people are not aware of climate change because if they would. They would atleast give some consideration to it on how it will affect their lives. But just like AI the reality is going to hit hard.
Known_Expression1308@reddit
yeah careers are for the most part a waste of time. Upon further thought, they probably always were. The goal should have always been bettering our community, not ourselves.
xena_lawless@reddit
You should better both your community and yourself.
If you're a stupid and terrible person, you can do a lot of damage while thinking you're doing great.
Apollo_Lol@reddit
Then it's pushed like "You have to better yourself before you better others" but that low-key feels like capitalist propaganda to keep people self-focused
-Hastis-@reddit
You do though. You should always come first. You should be the first love of your life. It doesn't mean that you should become self-centered though. Like in a plane, place the oxygen mask on your face before you help even your own child, or you might both perish. I suggest learning about secure attachment. It does actually increase your capacity to relate in a healthier way in a community.
ChinaShopBull@reddit
I’m middle aged, divorced, between jobs, and trying to raise two kids as the world is falling apart. I will probably spend the rest of my life trying to “put on my own mask”, and I’m really angry about that.
Twisted_Cabbage@reddit
Definitely cant agree with that. It's the root of greed which is the root of all the problems humanity is facing. The most happy people on Earth are the least self centered.
-Hastis-@reddit
You are describing hyper-individualism, which I agree is terrible for our communities, but what I'm saying is different: you can’t truly give yourself away to the community if you don't have a stable self to give. If someone is fragmented or highly anxious, their altruism can often become pathological altruism (aka codependency), helping others as a way to escape their own pain, their own failures, or to feel a sense of power/control. Isn't it more selfless to do the inner work to become a secure, full person, so that your service to others is a genuine choice rather than coming from a need for validation?
When a group is made of people who are grounded and secure within themselves, the community becomes interdependent rather than codependent. Codependent communities are fragile. They collapse under the weight of everyone’s unspoken needs, resentments, and fragmented identities (things get brushed under the rug constantly to preserve the good vibes). But an interdependent community (where each person is their own anchor) is resilient. It can weather internal conflicts and external pressures because its members aren't constantly draining each other to feel okay. People are not constantly burning out. They have the stability to truly show up for the long haul, they communicate their needs and boundaries, which creates a collective strength that actually lasts through time.
surewhynotokaythen@reddit
In other words, you can't pour from an empty cup. Take care of you so that you CAN take care of others. Doing for others when your own life is a mess does not benefit you, in the end, at all.
-Hastis-@reddit
An exaggerated example, but if you are 40 years old, working 60 hours a week at minimum wage, and adding on top of that 40 hours of volunteering because you think some other people have it worse, with a retirement plan that basically consist in working until you die from it, maybe you should try to find more balance and volunteer maybe 20 hours, and use the 20 remaining hours to find a way to better support yourself.
SocietyTomorrow@reddit
Your volunteering can be in a way that won't contribute to burning out. Finding what that is for you can be a whole process and little advice from others often helps to find what that is, but is fulfilling when you figure out what that is. I've taken up contributing some of my electrical engineering skills (never went to school for it, just did it since I could hold a soldering iron) to work on community projects that may lead to lower cost and energy us computers for people who can't afford anything. It may be a tiny bit selfish because I like designing and building things but everyone has ways they contribute that heal you as much as they help others.
-Hastis-@reddit
That’s a fair critique of hyper-individualism. But I look at it this way: you can’t truly "give yourself away" to the community if you don't have a stable self to give. If someone is fragmented or highly anxious, their altruism can often become pathological altruism (aka codependency), helping others as a way to escape their own pain, their own failures, or to feel a sense of power/control. Isn't it more selfless to do the inner work to become a secure, full person, so that your service to others is a genuine choice rather than coming from a need for validation?
The irony is that this self-first security is exactly what builds tighter, stronger communities. When a group is made of people who are grounded and secure within themselves, the community becomes interdependent rather than codependent. Codependent communities are fragile. They collapse under the weight of everyone’s unspoken needs, resentments, and fragmented identities. But an interdependent community (where each person is their own anchor) is resilient. It can weather internal conflicts and external pressures because its members aren't constantly draining each other to feel okay. They have the stability to truly show up for the long haul, creating a collective strength that actually lasts through time.
It-s_Not_Important@reddit
You have to better my wallet to buy my master class in bettering yourself.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
It depends on who "you" are.
If you're barely scraping by with your part time fast food job, and turning your paycheck over to family members, but you all remain desperately poor, a better way help is to focus on an 18-month trades program and get a better job. Then you can really do some good for your family, as opposed to being constantly on a treadmill where none of you get anywhere. Short term pain for long term gain.
At the opposite end of the spectrum is a trust fund baby. Maybe they don't want to better themself through education or whatever. They're in a perfectly fine position to help others, though.
DLTMIAR@reddit
If we could replace capitalism with generosity I think we'd be better off.
cr0ft@reddit
Or rather, with something cooperation-based. The paradigms of competition and cooperation are polar opposites, and when you operate based on one of them, the other works extremely poorly within that framework.
Cooperation in capitalism is done minimally and usually within a smaller group - so you can compete as a group that much harder. In a cooperation based paradigm, trying to compete would harm everybody including yourself.
So yeah, we need a paradigm replacement. One single factor, that would change every single other factor. Super simple. Almost impossible to get people to understand, due to all the capitalist indoctrination for a lifetime.
DLTMIAR@reddit
Generosity preceeds cooperation. But yeah agree with everything else you said.
People need to be willing to give before we can work together as a cooperation.
TheOldPug@reddit
And generosity requires surplus.
DLTMIAR@reddit
Don't we have enough food for like 10 billion people, but a bunch goes to waste?
And I'm pretty sure (at least in the US) there are more vacant homes than homeless.
And as long as there are billionaires I don't think I'll ever believe we don't have a surplus.
ChinaShopBull@reddit
There is an unfortunate consequence of bettering your community though: it makes your community more attractive. Others flock to strong communities & enjoy the benefits too. It may be that the newcomers work very hard for the community too, but they did not do the original work, and I think this is why people have such a hard time in expanding groups.
cr0ft@reddit
This too is an example of capitalism damage. "We can't make this place too attractive or someone might want it" is kind of nuts. What we should do is make all of society so attractive that everyone was happy being where they are.
Jobs, as they are, are nuts. Of course we should work for numerous reasons, but wage slavery is not the way, and almost all work available here in capitalism is either meaningless or directly detrimental. I mean, I have no idea how someone in banking or marketing can look themselves in the eye in the mirror in the morning, for instance.
dinah-fire@reddit
You know that saying, "the stock market can remain illogical longer than you can remain solvent"? Make that, "civilization can keep plodding along against all odds longer than you can remain unemployed."
Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit
Also u/lifeexperien, you should check out * Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber * More and more and more by Jean Baptiste Fressoz * Elite overproduction ala Peter Turchin (more). Also see Jiang Xueqin's nice remarks.
Jaimieeeeeeeee@reddit
Graeber and Fressoz are great but Xuegin is a conspiracy theorist and a holocaust denier, just fyi
Shoddy-Childhood-511@reddit
Interesting thanks, the wikipedia discussion of that seems clarifying:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jiang_Xueqin#Holocaust_denial
And even if his holocaust denial itself does not reach BLP standards, he falls for other conspiracy theories:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Xueqin#Reception
Anyways Turchin is great. I think too focused on cycles somehow: It's true that human systems have some extreme path dependence though: Turchin says that elite overproduction should be inevitable, but gets slowed down by various types of institutions. I'd love to see work showing that these institutions comes from basically "do as I say not as I do", where a younger upcoming empire copies the institutions of a peaking one, usually via colonialism, and then improve & strengthen these institutions through the process of justifying them. This is cyclical within one empire, but says nothing about the geography of where the next empires happen. And collapse allows subsequent empires to occur via different traditions, which changes how institutions improve or do not improve.
Anyways, this is improvement of institutions is much of why "civilization can keep plodding along against all odds longer than you can remain unemployed." lol
Wreckedmechtech@reddit
Tru dat ugh I'm gonna need some disability or something. Fuck all those people at the jobs I could potentially be hired for. I already don't like them enough to be around them. Its quite debilitating but even they were okay, I wouldn't work for someone who would hire the likes of me anyways. They make terrible decisions and probably won't be in business long enough to even justify filling out the application. They ain't gonna bring me down with them by hiring me because I won't let them. Its called knowing your value.
Space0dd1ty@reddit
lol wtf
Big_D_904@reddit
Elite comment
twelve_tony@reddit
such a great line, i'm gonna be stealing that one
NyriasNeo@reddit
"I seriously do not understand why people are working so hard. "
I cannot speak for others but I work hard because I like what I do and it is fun doing it ... scientific research. I will continue to do so after I retire, for free. To be fair, it is more like a hobby and a job rolled into one.
Mr_Metrazol@reddit
Yeah same, except I farm for a living.
I just spent a couple hours on a tractor knocking down rose bushes that have been popping up in the pasture. Loved every minute of it. Fresh air, watching the cattle graze out in the field.
I have no intention of ever giving up my work as long as I'm physically capable of making it down to the barn.
NyriasNeo@reddit
We are the lucky ones. I do know that finding work we love to do does not happen to everyone.
Amputatoes@reddit
It can be even worse than that. I found a job I love and could do forever at a local homeless shelter. The pay was so bad that the crushing poverty, the inability to save for the future, the inability to take a vacation and barely a holiday, broke me into a husk and forced me into corporate hellhole shit kissing rich people's asses
Acceptable-Bell142@reddit
"Happy the man who makes a living by his hobby." Pygmalion George Bernard Shaw
Spikel14@reddit
That’s cool. I got an as in general science and an Aas in electrical engineering technology. That gave my dad a good and long career. I couldn’t find a job in the field so I work in a deli. I enjoy it though. I’m glad you found something so meaningful
schizoautist86@reddit
I'm pivoting away from a traditional career path and plan to make money selling services to people and partially as a content creator. I mean I can't even get a job that no one wants to do i.e. door-to-door sales, landscaping or mover, it's rare for me to even get an interview due to a combination of factors (criminal record, minimal work experience). I'm not exaggerating when I say literally no one will take a chance on me and I have no idea why.
therefore, I decided it made more sense to just say "fuck it" and run my own shit. I work hard and I enjoy it, it's way more fulfilling this way.
Green-Stranger-3920@reddit
The answer to "why work so hard" is that the system is designed so you have no real choice. Costs compound faster than wages. Opting out means falling behind, not finding peace. Most people aren't wrking hard because they believe in it. They're working hard because the alternative is worse.
theTrueLodge@reddit
It’s a distraction for me. I’ll admit it.
25TiMp@reddit
People work hard because they do not want to be homeless, on the street, begging for food etc.
Butterscotch_02@reddit
In the bottom we all know that we are gonna die, the thing is we are so selfish to take care of each human, because secretly the most people thing that humans in general are garbage, the truth is we can change the world around us, but the people just think on themselves
CassiusCreed@reddit
I would lose my house to the bank well before collapse will come so can't live the Max Max lifestyle just yet. It's work 40 hour weeks or have an early personal collapse. I have a feeling many people on this subreddit are not yet independent and have no idea how the world works.
Vegetaman916@reddit
Sounds like you may not know what being independent means... Societal dependence is the worst kind, and the answer to losing your house is simply to not have a house. Sell it, go live on some land which is cheaper, or as a nomad. Independence means you don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Freeing yourself from the social conditioning that you "must have a house," and "must have a job" is one of the first steps to Independence. You need income, not a job. You need shelter from the elements, not a house.
You can either wait for collapse to take those things from you unexpectedly or you can collapse now and avoid the rush, making it more planned and controllable.
Lord_Vesuvius2020@reddit
I just listened to a video by Nate Hagens on how to think about the future. His point is we need to be able to hold different versions/scenarios about it at the same time. And that if you believe in only one outcome you’re likely to guess wrong. So, for instance, I think the William Gibson quote about the future being here but not evenly distributed is a reasonable assumption. So a collapse scenario might not be the same throughout the world or at the same time. I believe Mad Max world might happen in certain places but not everywhere at the same time. So another way to deal is by seeking the places where collapse is milder or doesn’t happen, or it happens much later. One could do this though being transnational with currency, with where you go, and how you generate income.
bodybyxbox@reddit
I quit my 6 figure job because if i couldnt do it right, i didnt want to do it at all. Lived in my car for a bit then off grib. Not working is hard in its own way. Underworkimg at a job also takes a toll, as does running in circles for a boss who is an idiot yet is making 8 times the amount you are. Even now, I live the easy life: not working, raising ducks and gardening and cooking (all things i love) and it still is really hard sometimes because I see so many others suffering in Gaza or in prison or in terrible jobs or with abusive spouses. My guru says, what if you are in heaven now and making a mess of it? My depression says; what if this is hell and we are getting what we deserve?
littlepup26@reddit
This really hits.
leisurechef@reddit
You could throw a few carriage returns in there to aid the reader….?
ideknem0ar@reddit
As the owner of a vintage typewriter, I approve this comment.
TheOldPug@reddit
Oooooh, does it make the clack clack noise?
ideknem0ar@reddit
Very!!
Distinguishedflyer@reddit
carriage returns, what a quaint parlance. I agree. OP could also have use more carbon paper.
No-Cost-1764@reddit
Took me a minute to understand you mean paragraph spacing, and yes +1
Creepy_Valuable6223@reddit
My dogs still need vet care and housing that allows them and that costs serious money.
mexican-street-tacos@reddit
People work because we need money to survive. Most people don't want to be homeless parasites on society. We want to earn a living and contribute to the greater good of humanity.
WorldyBridges33@reddit
I’d argue that there are many jobs that don’t contribute to the greater good of humanity and arguably make it worse. For example, being a tobacco executive, or an Israeli bomber pilot, or running a casino, or being a private equity goon. I’d rather see someone be a homeless “parasite” before doing any of those jobs..
mexican-street-tacos@reddit
That's true. But nobody is making you work there.
fr0stn8@reddit
I got a relatively good job (not that exhausting, boring or annoying) with a somewhat good pay, considering that I don't need to work my ass off.
I'm just chillin in my spare time, smoke some weed occasionally and take some acid here and there, if I'm feelin especially good.
Sure, people can judge me. I don't care. If it all goes to shit I can still say that I at least lived kinda well.
I wouldnt dare to work harder/build up my career- fuck that.
DanceInYourTangles@reddit
What kind of work do you do?
WorldyBridges33@reddit
I think it’s because most people still equate money with security and stability. As the world further destabilizes, I expect people will try to work even harder because they believe the money will keep them insulated while everything falls apart.
WastelandEnjoyer@reddit
Honest answer - most people in the west don't know or care to know. Climate change in mainstream media has largely been watered down to an odd heatwave or geopolitical conflict. Until it affects people personally - its just going to be "the president" or the "economy" on their mind.
HeadAd369@reddit
Once we’re in the “people know” stage, we’ll long for the days of blissful ignorance!
Soggy-Improvement196@reddit
This is my feeling as well. I know people who 10 years ago were still very much into climate activism and the urgency to do something.. And now they are buying houses and having kids. And our trajectory is looking so much worse now than it did even back then. Even the people who are or should be informed can't bring themselves to truly fathom the future we are facing.
I mean, even the green parties in Europe are all for economic growth. So there's that.
are-e-el@reddit
I'm working hard now because I still need to eat and stay housed. But long term retirement? I expect to die in a heat wave sometime in the 2050s.
Runningoutofideas_81@reddit
You just need to diversify your portfolio more. Some bonds, stocks, ammo, index funds, rice in mylar bags, antibiotics, seeds, Yuans, tobacco…
Front_River_2367@reddit
Don't forget wheat, barley, yeast, and marijuana.
HeadAd369@reddit
Bic lighters are going to go off
cr0ft@reddit
I just do my 9-5 and phone it in. Without the 9-5 I'd just not have enough money to live, and it's getting to the point where just getting a wage slavery position is difficult.
Believe me, if I was given any kind of financial out and could quit working and just chill until I croak I'd take it, but I can't see any such out at the moment.
iLLy_RiLLy@reddit
Because we're stuck on this rock and don't want to be reliant on others in the future.
The system sucks, but I still plan to work around it
Fox_Kurama@reddit
Since its a massive block of text I'll address the basics.
Working means you continue living. This is fairly ingrained too as we were originally a group animal monkey type that gathered fruits and hunted some form of meat or bug or another together (usually meat if the together part is important).
Therefore, we work to live. Hunt to live, do whatever to live to get stuff from the hunters, you get the point.
Next basic: why bother if doomed? Simple. Most people do not think they are doomed. They actually think that there will be historians 100 years from now mocking what is going on now in political circles. They also think they are better than anyone before because of some false bias too, but it gets even worse when considering the fact that we have basically all been messed with by whatever microplastics and other pollutions have done to even those of us who THINK we are aware of collapse and supposedly above it all.
Because we are not. We are just feeding into the "we know better" bias. Everyone here is getting their brain just as messed up as the sheeple. And nothing we can do will stop it.
Procrastination wins the day when profits and futures are concerned. Profits are more important than the future. See number go up. As someone who watches a youtuber called dangerouslyfunny, I am well acquainted with how much dopamine number going up can be. And that is just a watcher of something that has no bearing on me from some random numbers go up flash game or something.
Actually trying to read that block though, I will say that people don't care about quality as much as they claim. If they did, America would have adopted actual transit systems 50-70 years ago. And would definitely have fixed the road doom loophole that let companies just make money by selling TECHNICALLY light trucks as cars (pickups, SUVs, etc).
Heck, if you got through all this slightly less blocky whatnot, I'll give you some stuff to watch. Its long though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umgi-CbaSRU
And if you live in America, you can even blame a SINGLE PERSON for ruining things for you forever, and hes not even a politician.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRPduRHBhHI
-Thizza-@reddit
You're probably right about the decline at junk food places but it sounds to me you got some lasting consequences after having had Covid. There are numerous people whose taste buds haven't been the same after contracting Covid. My GF and I still occasionally have the "covid smell" where things like onions smell like bad body odour.
derpman86@reddit
I work enough to keep my job, when I was away for 2 weeks I noticed how well I have kept my job role useful lol as the tasks were pushed between the others and things going behind haha.
I am caught up currently and as it is Friday afternoon I am not seeking out anything more to do.
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Ferovore@reddit
What am I supposed. to do? I don't mind my job, I absolutely love my life though, so why not keep doing what I'm doing til it falls apart. Sure I could sell everything and travel or be a bum on the beach in Bali or something but I'd rather just life my life with my beautiful friends and community doing fun shit and loving each other.
Rossdxvx@reddit
Personally, I feel trapped within this system. Maybe it is my fault for not going out into the woods and living off the grid. I don’t know if it is at all possible to turn your back on the capitalist system entirely, but I like to fantasize about it from time to time. I am working poor, btw, so it is not like I am hustling because I am greedy. More like working to eat, which is becoming increasingly difficult to do these days.
I really don’t understand the concept of charging exuberant prices for the basic necessities that people need to live, exploiting them, and extracting a profit from their hard work. And, worst of all, it is drilled into your head that you are the failure for not succeeding within this rotten, rigged, and exploitive system.
All the while more and more is being funneled to the top and the vast majority of people have no health care, education, housing, etc. And yet, people still argue neoliberal talking points that have been discredited and debunked decades ago. Nothing ever changes, things only get worse.
KingRBPII@reddit
Fear of losing what they have today
LugubriousLament@reddit
Once my major debts are paid off, I can begin to slow down and possibly do something more fulfilling. The banks won’t give anyone a pass on their mortgages because the world is ending. I’m close though, a life of frugality has helped me a lot.
ideknem0ar@reddit
Keep at it. It was AMAZING how much the bank balance racked up once the truck, house & solar panel were paid off and doubled my garden output a couple summers. Went from treading water under $8k for years to over $100k in under 5 years. Household income of around $69k in VT.
LugubriousLament@reddit
I got solar panels after my first year of home ownership, paid them off in full. Car is paid off as of this month, and I have under $40k left on the house. My job pays well for where I live, in Canada. Comfort is all I want, not insane wealth. Looking forward to expanding my garden this growing season. I might consider picking up a used EV as a second car.
BitchfulThinking@reddit
It's a habit.
They don't know what else to do because it's all they've been told to do in life. Like breeding and staying partnered with a person who clearly hates them. Capitalism (and it's BFF, religion) has conditioned humans into thinking they're useless if they're not "working hard" for someone else on a defined schedule. Teachers get called "useless" in the summer, and homemaking isn't considered work 🙄
For many people, their job title, and assumed wealth, is entirely how they define themselves. They don't care about anything else going on in the world because for now, they can still feel superior to others.
Cultural-Answer-321@reddit
Most people have no choice.
Was this a trick question?
lorenzoelmagnifico@reddit
Keep that same energy when you think about having children.
Ok_Repeat_1995@reddit
I don't know what people are working for, to prove to themselves that they care? Care about what? It's like the world is getting worse and people are working harder to try to make it a better place but somehow it's feeding into the things that end up making it worse lol
saphyu@reddit
Because survival isn't just about near-future...it's also about the present which means surviving to not be homeless, to support your family in the CURRENT state of affairs...full blown panic isn't the answer to our near future no matter how dire and I don't think any of us know how to cope with that. Our brains aren't wired for societal and ecological collapse at this scale - so panic won't happen until it's too late. People will continue to work hard because it's the only means they have rn.
nakedonmygoat@reddit
What makes you so sure people who work hard aren't well aware of what's going on and using their extra money to plan for a more difficult future?
Sure, if they're working hard and taking fancy vacations, it's obvious where their priorities lie. But others work hard to save up for land outside the city. Maybe they're working hard to buy beans, grains, and lentils for harder times.
There are any number of reasons a person might be working hard, and not all of them mean they're unaware of what's going on. Maybe they're quietly preparing for worse times to come.
thechilecowboy@reddit
Jack Ma always looks like someone farted into a bowling ball
Lorkaj-Dar@reddit
Id like to try a mac aloo tikki
Distinguishedflyer@reddit
don't you remember that Work makes you free?
Odd_Awareness1444@reddit
It's because even for us collapse aware people we have mortgages, rent, kids, car payments, loans, and on and on. The reality is you have to toil away to keep a decent lifestyle even during the collapse.
OutlandishnessNo5636@reddit
There is no sense co spidering everything will end. If you don’t like what you are doing, don’t do it. Say no to your bossy boss. He/she will panic because they are used to people who abide to their orders. The world has changed, no more illogical orders
PhotographUsed1255@reddit
co-spidering sounds AWESOME -- I love spiders and can think of worse ways to spend my time in the collapse (LOL, sorry)
High_Quality_Bean@reddit
Read Nietzsche sometime
God is dead. The world is on fire. The struggle is futile. I don't care. I choose what matters to me. I will overcome, and if you don't like it you can suck my nuts.
mushykindofbrick@reddit
I mean being poor when things get worse is even worse, of course the best thing to do is try earn and save money for the hard times to come. But since youre living in India you probably have a more extreme view on climate change, its especially hot there, Im from Germany and our summers are noticeably hotter than before, but its still cold most of the year. We here will mostly notice the food supply shock and those things, but it will stay relatively cool
And yeah youre totally right I noticed all this too, capitalism is progressing, and since we are hitting the limits of growth now quality has to decline for economy to keep going, we have more subscription services and less actual ownership, nothing really works for long, and so on. Best things to do imo is just to completely abstain from any consumption, live as frugally as possible and just safe money to gain more freedom
Ala-Peterson@reddit
My question: so what? I can't stop working just like I can't stop driving. The whole rest of the world is caught in some similar modern trap.
There is no fixing, stopping, reversing. Only adaptation.
But, this is the world America keeps voting for, so why bother worrying?
PUNd_it@reddit
Sure you can, it would just be a huge change, and currently isnt worth it cus it dont make enough of a difference and we passed the point of no return
Wreckedmechtech@reddit
Shit I quit working a while back and was really banking on everything being wrapping up by now. Now its like talking to someone whos beat cancer 5 times and they say have cancer again. Yea it sucks but I already thought were about to die like 5 times already. Its not that I wish theyd die, but Im all tapped out of "oh no's" and "I hate to hear that's" now its just, "shit that sucks" and "well what can you do's"
Timely-Assistant-370@reddit
We're going to replace poor people with PoorBot(TM) to keep the barren wasteland economically profitable for the rest of the ship to stay comfy and cope-fy until the whole thing goes under. For a short time we will have a genuine robot dystopia!
Willing-Dog6463@reddit
I keep working harder and harder because my job keeps upping my productivity requirements. I’m not working my ass off for fun, I assure you
Randyguyishere@reddit
Don’t really have much of a choice, might as well get paid while the world burns.
eliquy@reddit
Takes my mind off it