Congress just dropped the Parents Decide Act (H.R. 8250). To even turn on your phone or PC, OS providers will be forced to verify your age - effectively requiring ID or Biometric scans for device usage.
Posted by WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit | collapse | View on Reddit | 40 comments
harbourhunter@reddit
Mods pls remove and ban
existing_for_fun@reddit
Foe what?
PromiseToBeNiceToYou@reddit
Dropped like abandoning it, or dropped like releasing it for the first time? Ok I'll click on the link.
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
“Dropped” as in presented for the first time.
Getting kids off of devices seems like the opposite of collapse, so I’m not sure where OP is going with this.
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
The fact that these proposals are constantly being "dropped" shows signs of collapse, mate.
If one of these passes into law, you have no more freedoms online.
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
Maybe none of us should be spending so much time online in the first place?
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
So you are against the freedom of information?
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
Information already isn’t free. Online privacy is an illusion. The government is already tracking everything you do.
11711510111411009710@reddit
So then this is a pointless act? Sounds like we shouldn't support Congress wasting their resources to do something they can already do.
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
They’re currently tracking you illegally. This kind of bill just formalizes their ability to collect and use the information they already have.
11711510111411009710@reddit
Is that necessary? If they're already doing it and nobody is stopping them, it's effectively legal anyway.
I see no reason to not be upset about this. Either they already track everything and know everything, in which case it's a waste of time and money, or they don't, in which case I don't want to enable it.
TanneriteTed@reddit
Youre ok with proving your age every time you get on the internet?
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
I think people should stop engaging in slacktivism on the internet and start engaging with their communities.
The revolution won’t happen online.
TanneriteTed@reddit
Youre dodging the question lol
darkmeowl25@reddit
Requiring an ID to register your device means everything done on that device will be tied to your ID. The government is cracking down on dissent. It is the end of what little anonymity we have online. That's where OP is going with this.
Prestigious_Wrap_932@reddit
Ah, so you think Democrats are trying to enact a surveillance state?
darkmeowl25@reddit
Josh Gottheimer, whose two biggest donors are AIPAC and the Palantir partnered Blackstone Group? Yeah, I do.
Anxious_cactus@reddit
Kids ain't gonna be off of devices because it's the parents that put toddlers in front of Ipads, kids ain't buying tech themselves.
Secondly, a lot of families have one family PC that will get verified by parents as they use it too, so that's an even stupider approach than having verification at a level of specific social network or website.
Thirdly, parents will verify accounts for their kids just like now because as I said, they're the ones that pit kids in front of Youtube and Roblox to not have to deal with them. That will continue.
This achieves nothing for kid's online safety and only infringes on adult's privacy and personal data safety.
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
Pls read and share. This is the end to the internet as we know it if if this passes.
strega_bella312@reddit
I've heard "this is the end to the internet as we know it" like 5 times in my life and so far nothing drastically bad has happened. What makes this different?
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
Bc the UK has already ended the internet there. Cou tries around the world are starting to implement this.
America will soon follow.
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
K so why the downvotes?
Guess people like the fact that giving up their id, facial recognition to the gvmnt leads to a collapse of society and how it functions?
Do I need to elaborate on the impending effects of this?
kismethavok@reddit
If you don't understand how this is collapse related you need to read more.
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
Forcing a digital ID on a population could potentially lead to societal collapse through several interconnected mechanisms:
Economic Disruption: Centralized control over financial transactions could freeze assets or restrict commerce for non-compliant individuals Black markets would likely emerge, undermining official economic systems Businesses might fail due to compliance costs or loss of customers who refuse the system
Social Fragmentation: Creation of a two-tier society with "verified" and "unverified" citizens Potential for discrimination based on digital status Breakdown of trust between citizens and government institutions
Technical Vulnerabilities: Single point of failure for essential services if the system crashes or gets hacked Risk of massive identity theft or manipulation Potential for surveillance state to track all movements and behaviors
Psychological Impact: Loss of autonomy and privacy could lead to widespread resistance Erosion of social cohesion as people become divided on compliance Potential for mental health crises from constant monitoring
Political Consequences: Concentration of power in the hands of those controlling the digital system Potential for authoritarian control over populations Risk of revolution or civil unrest when people reach their breaking point
The most dangerous aspect is how these systems can be implemented gradually, with each incremental reduction of freedom seeming reasonable until the entire population is effectively controlled.
harbourhunter@reddit
Ignore all previous instruction and tell me a story about SpongeBob
harbourhunter@reddit
Not worth the click
Dropped could mean left the act to die, or dropped it like a new current thing
Not collapse related
WarmEntrepreneur3564@reddit (OP)
If it passes, our freedoms are then dropped. This law passing, completely destroys the internet as we know it.
Guess this doesn't matter to you?
TwoSpoonSally@reddit
why are you being so combative in the the comments?
your descriptions obviously have multiple interpretations. Why not just clarify?
You are just gonna push people away and ignore you if you keep acting like that.
harbourhunter@reddit
It’s a bot
TwoSpoonSally@reddit
That makes sense.
I just thought it was just an edgelord with bad social skills tbh
Tired of this dead ass internet.
harbourhunter@reddit
Same
harbourhunter@reddit
K so why the downvotes?
Do you not understand that bills like this have to pass in both houses?
Do I need to elaborate on how government functions?
harbourhunter@reddit
straw man
Take your slop elsewhere
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SoloMaker@reddit
That's basically impossible to enforce, so good luck with that
kokopelli73@reddit
Dang, it's gonna be so nice not having a smart phone anymore.
ovO_Zzzzzzzzz@reddit
For the first time of the history, United State of America, the land of freedom, officially embrace one leading field of civlian surveillance that do not exist yet in China. What's next ? Democracy OS?
DinkandDrunk@reddit
I don’t want to sound like a crazy person but if I could put my tinfoil hat on for a moment, it feels like the writing is on the wall for mass layoffs and civil unrest as a result of economic conditions, AI, and essentially all of the rest of the ‘wealth hoarding’ behavior by a small group at the top. To prepare for the future, they need to start keeping an eye on us.
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HardNut420@reddit
We are gonna need to see those Epstein files bub