Happy 30th to Don't Speak, the soundtrack to many of our first breakups.

[-]

Dwayne_@reddit

Courtney Love really was right about specifically two people and probably some other stuff.

[-]

one_among_the_fence@reddit

What did Courtney Love say about her?

[-]

FungiStudent@reddit

"Being famous is just like being in high school. But I'm not interested in being the cheerleader. I'm not interested in being Gwen Stefani. She's the cheerleader".

And then Gwen wrote hollaback girl in response

Then Love had an 8 month affair with Gwen's husband Gavin Rosedale.

Somehow I missed all of this drama back in the day.

[-]

unicorn-beard@reddit

Yeah I was always impressed how they were able to make it work, she's literally singing about him, kinda awkwarrrd

[-]

tMoneyMoney@reddit

Not as awkward as most of Fleetwood Mac’s entire catalog.

[-]

Grammarhead-Shark@reddit

Oh the conundrum that was Fleetwood Mac.

They worked best when they all hated each other the most!

[-]

ArtVandalay__@reddit

I told my kids “there were times they were singing AT each other…not to each other”

[-]

Grammarhead-Shark@reddit

I never thought of it that way, but you are so right!

[-]

stuntycunty@reddit

Tragic how she turned out tho. What a shame.

[-]

People of this thread, You are my people. Since about 5 seconds after I saw her I knew she was acting the part. I never bought her punk/ska creditials and have for 30 years stood by my stance. The few friends I still have from back in the day laugh at how justified my hatred and calling her out all those years have been.

[-]

Street_Narwhal_3361@reddit

She isn’t, though. She is and has always been an Orange County conservative Catholic culture vulture.

[-]

SquatOnAPitbull@reddit

It's definitely a thing with a lot of SoCal folks that grew up with punk. I grew up listening to Sublime and a lot of their songs mentioned FTP, date rape, etc. And then it turned, and Bud Gaugh is wearing a MAGA hat.

I've seen a lot of people make that move politically. A lot moved to Arizona physically.

[-]

Rampasta@reddit

File Transfer Protocol? Fuck The People?

[-]

Why_So-Serious@reddit

That’s a great lyric right there.

[-]

squish042@reddit

Well yeah, that’s the definition of poser. She played at being alt punk while being an OC con the whole time.

[-]

mvillegas9@reddit

First thing I thought

[-]

Possible-Jerk0138@reddit

She is THE poser

[-]

Procrasturbating@reddit

Never thought I would use that term unironically again, but here we are.

[-]

squish042@reddit

I haven’t used it in decades, but it fits so well here

[-]

OllieFromCairo@reddit

Are we talking about her conservative religious views? Because she always had those. They came up in the interviews about this song.

[-]

Local_Use4891@reddit

It’s more than just her personal views— she’s become a shill for the religious fruitcake industry: https://www.reddit.com/r/religiousfruitcake/s/U9LL8x5gAm

[-]

ChiefSampson@reddit

Ew....I was done with her when she married Blake Shelton, but it seems it just continues to get worse...

[-]

a_seventh_knot@reddit

lol wtf?

pay to pray?

[-]

Local_Use4891@reddit

I know! It’s insane what she’s up to now!

[-]

Orson_Gravity_Welles@reddit

That's that whole "Prosperity Religion"

Something about the more you pay, the closer you are to god and the more prosperous you are.

It's BS and a grift.

[-]

LowandSlow90@reddit

Sounds like scientology.

[-]

WhoDatNinja30@reddit

The word I’m pulling from my public school education is “indulgences”.

[-]

Orson_Gravity_Welles@reddit

Little bit of Column A and a bit of Column B.

[-]

a_seventh_knot@reddit

"hi sir, this is Jesus, your last check bounced so I'm sorry, I can't cure your cancer"

shit is beyond fucking weird at this point.

[-]

Mobile-Boss-8566@reddit

I just hate it when celebrities are jerks to common people. When I heard she was repeatedly rude to the Hotel staff I stopped listening to her music and pitched any albums I had. We made her and we can ruin her career.

[-]

DenvahGothMom@reddit

Seriously. She's awful.

[-]

JeffBeckwasthebest@reddit

My words, just terrible. Don't speak is one of the most terrible songs on the planet, can't hear it anymore 🤮

[-]

j65816@reddit

I'm confused. How did she turn out?

[-]

Local_Use4891@reddit

I don’t think you should get downvoted for asking— I just recently found out what she has turned into and am happy to share this video to spread the word: https://www.reddit.com/r/religiousfruitcake/s/U9LL8x5gAm

[-]

j65816@reddit

It sounds like she didn't turn into anything bad; just that people don't agree with some of her positions.

[-]

Local_Use4891@reddit

My bad, I thought you asked a genuine question. Again, the problem isn’t her conservative views, the problem is that she’s a grifter.

[-]

j65816@reddit

I guess I still don't see it. I mean, it's an application if somebody wants to pay for it, so what? Tom Morello takes corporate money to do speeches. Is that grifting? Do we view him with the same negativity?

[-]

Local_Use4891@reddit

I‘m just sorry I took the bait

[-]

Steel1000@reddit

Put a lens on just about anyone in the industry and you’ll find out they are all in it for the money. They say what sells and act like they are told.

The amount of people who think they “know” someone like this always amazes me.

[-]

Putrid-Art-1559@reddit

She didn’t turn into anything though, she’s always been like this. It was hidden better back then but there are a lot of old interviews where you definitely see the religious conservative side of her.

[-]

Local_Use4891@reddit

My intro to her was her mooning the crowd outside of the TRL studio— there has definitely been a progression from someone who just had conservative views to someone who is now an actual shill for Christofascist scammers

[-]

ONROSREPUS@reddit

I didn't know either. I don't follow celebrity gossip and happenings. All that bleach going to her brain.

[-]

gibson85@reddit

One word for you. Just one word: plastics!

[-]

mrjowei@reddit

She was always a conservative catholic

[-]

frenchinhalerbought@reddit

Yeah, thought the video was clever back then, not a road map

[-]

patchhappyhour@reddit

I saw her perform out here in San Diego a few years ago. I was less than impressed. She definitely forgot her roots.

[-]

Orson_Gravity_Welles@reddit

I saw ND open for U2 in the early 2000's and as much as I LOVED the Return of Saturn album, I was super unimpressed by their performance AND her live voice.

Sad to see she went down the MAGA route, but from what I understand, she was always on that path.

[-]

gibson85@reddit

Tragic Kingdom

[-]

klsi832@reddit

Kingdom how she was then tho

[-]

copyrighther@reddit

She’s always been this way, you just weren’t reading her interviews

[-]

Upset-Word151@reddit

I was a KoRn/NIN/Metallica fan as a teen, so I loathed her. Glad my gut reaction was right though, considering what she “became”

[-]

epidemicsaints@reddit

I feel like she pivoted to our parents, which is a strange and interesting career move for a musician.

[-]

InfidelZombie@reddit

She used to be Baberaham Lincoln. Now she's a gnarly old goat dude.

[-]

FoppyRETURNS@reddit

Gwen Stefani made exactly the kind of music was popular in exactly that moment.

[-]

PhoneJazz@reddit (OP)

I’d say they were groundbreaking, if anything. “Just a Girl” and “Spiderwebs” were unlike anything I’d heard on the radio before. Their ska horn riffs predated, or possibly helped usher in, the ska revival of the next few years.

[-]

wazacraft@reddit

It's because they played ska, but Tom was a metal guitarist, which created basically a whole new sub-genre.

[-]

Dan_Berg@reddit

Man I despised pop punk but Unwritten Law were so fucking underrated.

[-]

tMoneyMoney@reddit

They were kind of overrated at one point, at least in so Cal. In the 90’s I saw Blink 182 open for them at a tiny venue and they were introduced as “these guys are going to be HUGE!”

[-]

MathematicianTop8868@reddit

That explains why I loved their guitar so much, I’m definitely more of a metal head at heart.

[-]

Procrasturbating@reddit

They are on the tail-end of the third wave of ska. It was pretty popular already. That said, Tragic Kingdom was my first CD purchase.

[-]

bosco9@reddit

It also helped that Gwen was hot and had mass appeal

[-]

OoT-TheBest@reddit

Just a Girl was mindblowing when it came out

[-]

OllieFromCairo@reddit

They were on the tail end of the third wave of ska. The pre-existing popularity of the genre helped them sell Tragic Kingdom, not the other way around.

[-]

TheFoxandTheSandor@reddit

I remember that was the main song at our middle school dance that year. What a time to be alive

[-]

Skywren7@reddit

Black by Pearl Jam was my go to song

[-]

PhoneJazz@reddit (OP)

I saw them in concert at the 1996 HFStival on my 14th birthday. RFK Stadium, DC. What a show!

[-]

roaremipsum@reddit

OMG — I went to the 1999 HFStival on my 14th birthday! ✨ formative DMV experience twinsies ✨

[-]

PhoneJazz@reddit (OP)

Amazing! ✨ I’m still in the DMV and still go to concerts at the 9:30 Club and Black Cat!

[-]

roaremipsum@reddit

I’m so jealous! Two top tier venues — am out west these days and miss them dearly! Did make it back for the throwback HFS at Nationals Park couple years ago (forgive me if this isn’t the right name for it I’m telling on myself being gone a while)

[-]

Ralliman320@reddit

I've always wondered if the band knew they were dramatizing their own future.

[-]

roaremipsum@reddit

Fleetwood Mac reprise

[-]

ahoypolloi_@reddit

Right? Like this video is basically exactly what happened to them eventually

[-]

drainbamage1011@reddit

Wasn't the song written about their breakup?

[-]

sanedragon@reddit

Yes

[-]

0000Matt0000@reddit

Im pretty sure they broke up first.

[-]

ahoypolloi_@reddit

I meant the whole band

[-]

klsi832@reddit

It was already happening

[-]

memymomeddit@reddit

I still hate that song from how overplayed it was in 1997.

[-]

xParesh@reddit

Oh wow, so it’s been 30 years since I finished school? 😦

[-]

Undertherainbow69@reddit

That aside from what I understand, this song is about the person she loved left the band and became a Simpsons writer I believe

[-]

collinwade@reddit

RIP old Gwen

[-]

Writeforwhiskey@reddit

I'm wrapping my around the fact that for my 15 yo kid this would be like a Motown song for me in 1996.

[-]

wxguy215@reddit

This one hurt

[-]

omgphilgalfond@reddit

Yep! The Supremes “You Can’t Hurry Love” came out in 1966 for reference. We are not exactly young…

[-]

rythmicjea@reddit

I'll never forget this on pop-up video talking about how the video's story was about how a record label wanted to make her the front woman and separate the band from her and she was like "No! It's all of us or none of us!"

[-]

ArtVandalay__@reddit

On an unrelated note, how awesome was Pop Up Video?

[-]

rythmicjea@reddit

So awesome. I miss it more than I think I should lol

[-]

Dan_Berg@reddit

IIRC it was based on a magazine that actually did cut the rest of the band out on the cover, allegedly without consulting the band, and they were pissed.

[-]

rythmicjea@reddit

Yes!

[-]

Danbarber82@reddit

30 years later and this video is so hilariously ironic.

[-]

sandglider@reddit

It's like 10,000 spoons when all I need is a knife

[-]

Rust_Bucket37@reddit

Haha that really lasted didn't it?

[-]

FoggyFallNights@reddit

I felt this song in my soul just now when I read the post. Man time flies…30 years gone just.like.that.

[-]

snowboard7621@reddit

Tragic Kingdom came out in October 1995, what is everyone here smoking lol

[-]

Secure-Force-9387@reddit

I honestly never liked this song, never liked No Doubt, and never liked Gwen. Couldn't ever put my finger on it, but I never read her interviews because I didn't like her. Now that she's louder, I understand what that nagging feeling about her always was.

[-]

yranigami001@reddit

Zionist.

gif

[-]

ADMotti@reddit

Back before Gwen sucked

[-]

lurk3141592653589793@reddit

She sucked then too, but nobody knew about it. Just a Girl coming from her was always posing.

[-]

outcastspidermonkey@reddit

I hate that song.

[-]

Noname_Maddox@reddit

Tom the guitarist announced last week he has early onset Parkinson’s. Getting old sucks

[-]

lurk3141592653589793@reddit

Crap.

[-]

lurk3141592653589793@reddit

Hahaha! Well put. Funny how prophetic this video turned out to be. No Doubt was so much more than Gwen. Too bad she didn't believe that.

[-]

TheUnknownStuntman51@reddit

She went from playing with Sublime, to spelling the word ‘bananas’ in a song.

[-]

Beatrix_Potter-Kiddo@reddit

Well, look how Sublime turned out

[-]

Ok_Stranger_9520@reddit

Haha it’s literally playing on the radio right now as I type, a classic.

[-]

epidemicsaints@reddit

The guitar solo sounds like Weather Channel music.

[-]

Blueberry_Mancakes@reddit

I am SANCHO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxrJSPLHAI

[-]

Stevie-Rae-5@reddit

Stop 🤣🤣🤣

[-]

ranaldo20@reddit

And now, locals on the 8's.

[-]

No9No9No9No9@reddit

Gwen turned out to be such a fucking Poser!! 👎👎👎

[-]

Deep-Interest9947@reddit

Wrote the lyrics to this song ans gave it to a boyfriend following a breakup. Embarrassing.

[-]

red286@reddit

Can't be any more embarrassing than having your ex-girlfriend write the song and then force you to play bass on it.

[-]

Deep-Interest9947@reddit

I’m sure the money made it less embarrassing

[-]

klsi832@reddit

Kinda always knew I'd end up your ex-girlfriend

[-]

MartyFreeze@reddit

My ex gave me nothing else matters by Metallica, which one is worse?

[-]

fishboy3339@reddit

Blood on the ground- incubus.

[-]

prodigaldummy@reddit

We Like to Party - Vengaboys

[-]

jiffjaff69@reddit

Was never a fan.

[-]

SnooPaintings5597@reddit

Loooove that dress! Can’t wait for that trend to come back.

[-]

Stevie-Rae-5@reddit

I loved that dress from the first time I saw this video! Still do.

[-]

swisszimgirl79@reddit

gif

[-]

cleannc1@reddit

Posers.

[-]

General-Ad6459@reddit

The more I find out about her, the more my disappointment in her grows.

[-]

sugarcoatedpos@reddit

I remember my little brother swore she sang “nose bleed” instead of “don’t speak”.

[-]

Roklam@reddit

Well Holy Heck

This was the first glimmering of the transition to Ska/Punk for me.

[-]

Same_Soil7237@reddit

One of the first concerts I ever went to. No Doubt opening up for BUSH. 😎

[-]

SexyStayPuft@reddit

As a 14-year-old boy at that time, this was life-changing.

[-]

big_ringer@reddit

For a long time, I (along with other No Doubt fans) were wondering how Tony Kanal could dump a smokeshow like Gwen Stefani.

Seeing how she is now, we're all "OH! *That's why!"

[-]

Sunshineal@reddit

The drama behind this song was the talk of the lunch table.

[-]

-HHANZO-@reddit

Check out the little known original, I might like it better

https://youtu.be/u8_MCQJ4sl8?si=CNsrvHI4TbMpnyLy

[-]

NJ2SD@reddit

I was at the concert where they filmed the live footage for the video

[-]

spoung45@reddit

NO NO NO NO NO THIS SONG IS NOT 30 YEARS OLD........

[-]

23north@reddit

everything this video depicted, ended up happening.

[-]

FaceRockerMD@reddit

I remember how Inescapable this song was on the radio.

[-]

Cthulhus-Tailor@reddit

Funnily I knew a couple back then, in high school, who considered this their special song, which was odd since it was clearly about a relationship ending. They’re still together to this day.

[-]

Cthulhu_Dreams_@reddit

Man...I miss old Gwen...

[-]

VenusVignette@reddit

Ugh screw this song and Gwen Stefani.

[-]

rich101682@reddit

Missed it by a day. Came out 4/15

[-]

caramelcoldbrew@reddit

Omg, the times I played this post breakup with my first love. This and Torn by Natalie Imbruglia were on repeat, let me tell you.

[-]

SunshineInDetroit@reddit

gif

Excuse me? 30th?

[-]

klsi832@reddit

r/thirtyyearsago

[-]

SunshineInDetroit@reddit

oh my god. it's my 30th hs reunion this year.

[-]

klsi832@reddit

Mine's next year

[-]

GarciaWolf@reddit

gif

[-]

Top_Client938@reddit

Probably the most overexposed song of the 90s

[-]

El_Galant@reddit

Smash Mouth enters the chat.

[-]

klsi832@reddit

One Headlight

[-]

mom_bombadill@reddit

Hey now

[-]

deowolf@reddit

I dunno, The Impression that I Get being in like every movie trailer would like a word.

[-]

Rust_Bucket37@reddit

Imho I feel like the Bosstones were a better band and they lasted as a group longer.

[-]

windmillninja@reddit

Some of their best stuff came after their radio days. A Jackknife To A Swan is probably their best album IMO.

[-]

xt0rt@reddit

No way! Personally I'm a fan of their earlier stuff. Sucks Dickey turned out to be a nut job and broke them up.

[-]

Top_Client938@reddit

That’s valid

[-]

Darkhaven@reddit

Mambo #5 and Macarena thank you for taking the heat off of them!

[-]

Deep-Interest9947@reddit

How so?

[-]

Dry_Ass_P-word@reddit

I remember watching The Box back then (music video request channel) and the first week this came out it basically streamed back to back nonstop.

[-]

LaGorda54@reddit

Nah.

[-]

brokenman82@reddit

I hated no doubt back then too.

[-]

Sleepy_cheetah@reddit

She looks so beautiful in this video.

That song was on non-stop when I was 16.

[-]

espexporerguy@reddit

Man...

[-]

lola_raspberry@reddit

Gosh I cranked this banger in 5th grade. Dangit Tim 😭😭😭

[-]

Ok_Researcher_9796@reddit

Great song. Great Album. I was into a little darker stuff for my first break-up though. The album Wither, Blister, Burn and Peel by Stabbing Westward was on repeat for me for a long time after.

[-]

xt0rt@reddit

Stabbing Westward Hells yeah!

[-]

TamalesForBreakfast6@reddit

30?!?! How dare you!

[-]

RemarkablePaper1798@reddit

[-]

BulkyOrder9@reddit

“Kidney Boy is dead. Here’s ‘Bathwater’”

[-]

limelight022@reddit

Tragic Kingdom No Doubt was the best No Doubt, No Doubt.

[-]

TheRoadkillRapunzel@reddit

It always bothered me that I couldn’t bring myself to like Gwen Stefani and No Doubt. I was into punk and ska when they were popular, her feminist message SHOULD have made me a fan.

Instead I felt like there was something about her that I really didn’t like but couldn’t put my finger on.

When I found out she was a gross conservative into Christianity and cultural appropriation, it was a revelation!

Trust your guts, people.

[-]