With the numbers coming out about the massive pilot oversupply are we likely to see the increased regional pay go away when it expires?
Posted by OrganizationPlane683@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 125 comments
It looks like a lot of regional pay increases are set to expire in the coming months. With the oversupply of 1500 hr cpl’s I don’t see why the regionals will keep the pay increases (at least for fo’s).
SnooMuffins3614@reddit
We had this same train of thought in the tech sector and I feel generally no. Pay when it goes up tend to stay relatively stable even during periods of hardship, so most likely even if there was a major economic downwind, we will still see the same pay grade as we have now but I guess benefits like bonuses might be impacted.
I feel worse case scenario is that airlines will just opt for layoffs/pause hiring instead of cutting pay.
__joel_t@reddit
Tech doesn't have unions who set formulaic pay rates for all employees the way airlines do, and for most tech companies, compensation isn't public. Employers can offer new hires less money in tech more easily than an airline could get a union to accept a contract with lower wages.
SnooMuffins3614@reddit
I work in big tech and salary rarely if not never go back down. Also, the tech sector is very transparent in terms of how much people get paid.
Websites like Levels.fyi lists every SWE level and their pay grade by company with 99% accuracy. The trend of tech companies is they would rather do offshoring or layoffs than cut pay.
__joel_t@reddit
I also work in tech. Just because the salary band of a given level doesn't change doesn't mean new hires aren't getting paid less. "We're going to start you down a level until you can prove you can operate at a higher level here." And then slow-walk increasing the person's level.
harshtruthsdelivered@reddit
Why not both?
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
Because that’s not how business works. Salaries don’t go down, or they lose the people they want to retain. Businesses cut the bottom x% of employees when salary costs get too high to retain their high performers with regular salaries and bonuses. There’s plenty of examples.
What so many miss is that airline hiring isn’t hiring a logbook, it’s hiring the person. There’s not thousands of very qualified candidates, there’s thousands of 1,500 CE172 hr with nothing else on their resume candidates. People show up to interviews like they have the job in the bag, not even following the most basic instructions they were provided, then wonder why they get the TBNT.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
Lose them to where?
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
Literally any other job that rewards its higher performing employees. Maybe it’s another airline, maybe it’s not. There’s plenty of jobs out there. I wouldn’t be staying at my legacy if they cut my pay and made my life miserable.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
The point is that they’ll cut pay because there is an oversupply of pilots and not enough attrition to keep pay high. There aren’t enough other flying jobs for those pilots to leave for. If you think people are going to walk away from aviation entirely no way enough will do that to seriously affect staffing. Even if they do there are plenty of CFIs above ATP mins who would happily take that job. This is why it’s so important to have pay be protected by the contract.
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
They won’t cut pay. It may not rise as fast, but it is not going to go down. Aviation is no different than any other industry, and the pay may stagnate but it doesn’t go down. Employees will absolutely leave if you lower their pay from the previous year. This isn’t opinion, it’s fact that you can see by looking at historical data from almost any major company. This type of stuff is highly studied and planned out by upper level management.
Boeing fired 17,000 employees in 2024, yet they didn’t cut salaries. In fact, they gave out very large performance bonuses to their high rated employees.
Have you been part of hiring? No one wants bare minimum CFIs, they just use them to fill shortfalls when there aren’t enough strong resumes. There’s many aspects that outweigh hours.
__joel_t@reddit
Were these union employees? If not, do you think new hires will get the same pay rates?
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
The pay scales have increased since the layoff for non union employees. Pay isn’t based on vibes, it’s officially published tables.
Unions have a time and place but I’m not pro union as a blanket application. It’s stifles high performers and allows low performers to drain the company. It needs to be easier to fire people not performing and not everyone deserves the same pay.
None of us making hundreds of thousands of dollars at a major are anywhere close to the abusive workplace environments that created the need for labor unions, nor have we ever. The only reason I’m part of a union is because it’s forced on me.
KITTYONFYRE@reddit
hmmmm I wonder why that is
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
The standard union response of “the only reason good things have happened in the world is because of us” while ignoring all the non unionized industries that equal or outperform them on wage and benefits.
KITTYONFYRE@reddit
interested to hear more. such as what? and of those industries, why do you think they're comparable to airlines?
I'm extremely pro union in almost all cases (even though, realistically, like almost all people on almost all subjects, I don't know jack shit about them. really, you can't be a decent up-to-date resource on more than a few subjects, but people tend to believe everything they know is correct and everything others know is just wrong), but I also think it'll be a waste of both of our times to dive into an argument. I'd like to do a little questioning of why you think the way you do, though, and learn more about your perspective.
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
I’m not anti union altogether, I think they have done incredible things in history. I also think they encourage terrible employees to be worse because they know they will be protected. They also disincentivize the top performers because they don’t get rewarded the same as non unionized workers. My life overall has been better by not being in a union.
I’ll use Boeing as an example because I and my spouse have worked there as pilot and engineer. Before they became an executive we lived in a LCOL area and outearned all the unionized engineers in Seattle for the equivalent grade, while living somewhere much cheaper. The 401k match was superior for non-unionized employees.
In the PNW all unionized employees are given mandated bonuses and raises on a fixed schedule, but because we didn’t reward underperformance, those of us who are high performing individuals received significantly larger bonuses (25-30% of earned income for the year). We were making over $750k combined before they were an executive.
Then there comes the whole firing poor performers and those violating policy. It’s still difficult when non-unionized, but practically impossible in the PNW. It’s not difficult to get away with wage theft through mischarging and negligence of budget management. It took 2 years to fire an employee who negligently mismanaged and lied about program hours to the tune of ~$8M when we had all the teams chats and emails to show.
My spouse and I have always been ranked in the top 10% on our rankings. I don’t agree with rewarding laziness and underperformance of the job, not that union members inherently fall into that category, but they protect and reward it. I would also have been less financially well off due to the union.
sleepy_snowboarder@reddit
Legal to start, legal to finish! Glad we’re so spoiled we can forget the history! /s
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
lol anti union and think the company will keep current wages out of the goodness of their hearts. I’m sure you’re a peach to fly with
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
You like to ignore the truth data from all the non unionized careers making tons of money. You can be unionized all you want, I don’t care. My spouse makes double what their union counterparts make in the engineering industry. Their performance bonus this year was more than 2x what the union got in their contract.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
The only reason non union carriers make what they do is because they ride the coat tails of their union counterparts.
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
There’s plenty of subs on Reddit for having a union circlejerk.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
Didn’t address what I said at all. Typical response.
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
Because you can’t reason with die hard Union people. You’ll act like you’re getting raked over the coals and abused by the company when this job is easy and puts you in the top 1% of income earners.
I’ve actually worked in difficult, demanding environments so I don’t have a lot of sympathy for the BS. 99% of people have it harder.
Airline pilots are generally a very entitled and spoiled group of people.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
Dude why do you think the job is easy and pays so well? Because the company wants it to be?
SorbetExpert8093@reddit
lol the unions didn’t sweet talk the management into the fact that the job is easy and it generates so much money. You think all good things in life are the result of a union.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
You’re too stupid to have a conversation with. Have a good day.
__joel_t@reddit
I'm not trying to make a pro- or anti-union argument so much as I'm trying to just describe the different pay dynamics between airline unions and non-union tech workers. For sure
Totally agree with this in general, and especially with public-sector unions (like police unions). And unions will defend everyone regardless of the merit of firing the person. On the other hand, I do think having some job protections is a good thing -- we don't want airline pilots trying to cover up their mistakes because they're afraid they'll get fired if found out, at least for honest mistakes.
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
This is a pretty ignorant view of the history of the industry. Concessions in pay have been taken many times by many different pilot groups. Usually they have to be negotiated because the pay scales are contractually protected. In this case they don’t because there are no protections.
mfsp2025@reddit
It seems like every other person at my regional has a CJO or interview with an Air Line. We may not be losing FO’s like what used to happen, but there’s definitely captains leaving where I’m at. And lots that would leave sooner if the pay dropped
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
There are limited spots for them to leave to and plenty of instructors ready to fill spots. The economics are a lot different than they were when these pay scales were implemented
Mega-Eclipse@reddit
This is the real answer. Maybe they could get new hires to start lower (or with fewer benefits). But they tried to roll back pay on current employees...soooooo many pilot would leave.
Used_Shower3984@reddit
Yeah probably somewhat. Or at least I doubt the regionals see a pay raise for a decade.
DefundTheHOA_@reddit
I saw so many people not even attempt to leave the regionals when it was the easiest time to (22-23.5) and now they’re stuck
Life changing decision
IFR_Flyer@reddit
I fly with these guys literally every day and it is geniunely baffling
Several-Village5814@reddit
More room at the majors for the rest of us who have brains
FL060@reddit
There was an 2023 American flow that decided half way through indoc to go back. He had decided the pay cut was too much. Gave back the bonus payments and everything.
Good luck to that guy!
saxmanB737@reddit
He left AA to go back to a regional?!
FL060@reddit
Yes. Seems like some review of ADM was in order.
pooserboy@reddit
He’s gotta be banging and buddy bidding a flight attendant there. No way anyone rational does that.
Several-Village5814@reddit
According to guys on Facebook they claim you can easily make 300k as a regular regional captain. I’ve spoken to people who say this.
skyHawk3613@reddit
Yea…I was an 8 year captain at a regional. Made $270k my last year there.
Luev000@reddit
6 Year MQ CA, no LCA or anything. Did $280k in 2025. Averaged ~60hrs block time a month. Could have easily done 300k+ if I would have worked over my vacation. (A lot of guys do this and it’s crazy to me. I enjoy my vacation time lol)
Insaneclown271@reddit
Non U.S. pilot here. Is 60 block hours a month a lot for you guys?? Da fuck!
Used_Shower3984@reddit
Cool story, but you need to update your apps and get out.
Luev000@reddit
I flow before within 4 months. Never wanted too wait for it but I’ve tried getting to AA outside of the flow and it’s very rare. All good over here.
Several-Village5814@reddit
Average days of work per month
Luev000@reddit
I’d have to dig deeper to get exact number. But assume 16 day off lines with 1-4 OT day trips. So I’d say 13-14 Days off Average with conflicts and what not I conflict bid heavily and use a lot of return days.
2 month I did go down to “8 days off” but had sick calls, return days, etc and never actually only have 8 days off.
So I’d say safe bet is 13-14 days off average.
BasilProfessional09@reddit
Only if you are maxed out on the pay scale, constantly picking up premium trips and or work in the training department. Otherwise us average captains are in the ~$150k range.
Used_Shower3984@reddit
I would doubt that, but even so I cleared 350+ my 3rd year at a major with the 18% 401k match. It never makes sense to stay at a regional.
Ok-Money2811@reddit
Cant go as bad as my first year flying an RJ at $18.50 an hr
DeltaTule@reddit
When you guys talk about this you don’t talk about, or understand inflation for that matter, at all.
I was making $37.50 on an RJ in 2021 before all the crazy raises. When the old guys try and flex their $18.50 they don’t talk about inflation-adjusted dollars whatsoever.
I’ve done it a few times and it’s pretty close to the $37.50 I started at in 2021
JPAV8R@reddit
In 2007-2008 lots of regionals were paying that 18.50 an hour but adjusted to today it’s only $28. That 9exrra an hour might not seem like a lot but over a 60 hour period it’s $540 a month. Not nothing.
DeltaTule@reddit
Sure, but a lot closer than these boomers act like it was. Granted now it really is different once the raises starting hitting regionals in 2022
JPAV8R@reddit
I’m just saying that people like to credit the “I can’t believe I did this for $20/hr to boomers (1970-90) when the reality is that $20/hr to fly for a regional was as recent as 16 years ago.
The Colgan crash and the 1500 hour rule change was a reaction to those conditions.
JustAnotherDude1990@reddit
Exactly.
Houses could be bought with lunch money back then and it was under $100/hr for flight instruction without a 1500 hr rule. Many of them married as well so they were splitting living expenses.
Ok-Money2811@reddit
Username checks out
Guam671Bay@reddit
and no health ins for first 6 months for me
ginamegi@reddit
That should be illegal
21MPH21@reddit
Should be fought by the union of that regional.
Problem is voters are regional pilots that don't plan on staying so they don't fight. Then we brag about how much better unions and life are at our chosen legacy - my guy, if you'd voted like you were a regional lifer things would be great there too!
ginamegi@reddit
Should be fought by your local and federally elected officials
21MPH21@reddit
To make a corporation provide health insurance or that the government should provide health insurance?
ginamegi@reddit
Either way I don’t know, I just think it sucks. What do you do during that 6 months? Just not get sick? Pay for marketplace insurance? It’s not like you can just get another job that covers you.
21MPH21@reddit
It does stink which is why I said that regional pilots shouldn't forget what they went through. That starting pay sucks (back when I started). That reserve rules are out of control. That not everyone lives in base. That folks need insurance Day 1. Etc.
bae125@reddit
Yup. My first year as a 121 captain at a regional paid $39k. And I was happy about that. Still broke, but happy
MiniTab@reddit
Hell, even in 2018 I was an 8 year ERJ CA at OO and only made $85k. Sounds like FOs make way more than that now.
I’m glad to hear that, but I always had my eyes on being somewhere that had the side of the airplane match name on the paycheck. I did not ever trust the regionals as a long time career choice. I’ve seen too many collapse, shrink, or just straight up disappear over the years.
bae125@reddit
The whipsaw was real. It’s less effective now with consolidation and wholly owned, but it’s still there.
Seeing the FOs come in the last 10 years or so and make livable money is great. I’m a little jealous their career outlooks are so much better than those of us who got plowed by 9/11 and age 65, but I’m still happy there’s finally progress from the food stamp days
KITTYONFYRE@reddit
but are they actually better off financially? seems like increased housing costs eat away some of that difference
xavibear@reddit
What year was that? I’m always interested in the inflation adjusted number when you guys talk about rates “back then”
Ok-Money2811@reddit
09-10 or so
TheMonkeyPickler@reddit
Even if it was 25 years ago it would still be less than 35 an hour today
120SR@reddit
You mean back before the 1500hr rule when houses were less than 200k, 172 wet dual rates were less than 200/hr and living expenses were half what they are today?
Special_Seesaw3378@reddit
If regional CEO’s have anything to say It could go to the equivalent adjusted for inflation😂
Ok-Money2811@reddit
Point taken…but we did have some loud parties at the Holiday inn express pool with the flight attendants when they raided the liquor cart before the overnight.
KehreAzerith@reddit
Pay will likely become stagnant for a while but they will not lower the pay
21MPH21@reddit
Doesn't Envoy or another WO have claw-backs or something?
Bowzy228@reddit
Probably not, however, competition will remain tight for a while and there will be no pay increase for a few years.
Flight schools are already feeling a decline in enrollment from what I’m seeing. Part 141 universities are still packed though.
Japanisch_Doitsu@reddit
Is there even an oversupply of 1500hr cpl?
We know there's quite a lot of cpls that got there ratings in the last year or 2 but that doesn't mean they're close to 1500 yet. Plus the majors are hiring a lot right now.
120SR@reddit
Yes, even if they don’t publicly “lower pay”. They won’t raise it and it’ll go away with inflation and employers will pull other shady tactics to screw over pilots like contracts and worse work rules.
TLDR; Pretty much. Pilots coming up today are going to have it a lot harder than ones who started in the last 15 years
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
A lot harder? GMAFB. I started in 2013 and didn’t break 100k until 10 years into the occupation. Where is the resilience and drive? The brief wave of hiring in 2022/23 was an aberration, and all of a sudden every pilot who started in the last 15 years had it easy? Most of the people in my legacy class in 2023 weren’t in fact sub 2500 hour wonder kids and had more than earned their stripes
Several-Village5814@reddit
Inflation has progressed a lot since 2013. I don’t think people realize that when they talk about their low salary back then. For context 70k salary in 2013 was equal to 100k today.
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
Ok and in 2021 I made 80,000 as an RJ captain. Thats roughly 97k in today’s dollars. What does RJ captain pay now?. Again this isnt a woe is me but to say we had it easier than now is insanity
Several-Village5814@reddit
You’re right you got paid less. I was just saying sometimes people don’t take inflation into account so it sounds worse.
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
Inflation is pernicious across the board. Luckily out unions are able to negotiate raises in step with it unlike many other fields that seem to flounder
120SR@reddit
lol, the same reason why you think things were universally harder “back in my day…” is why it took you 10 years to break 100k. You haven’t opened your eyes to what things were possible back then and still haven’t noticed what’s things are objectively like today. The world doesn’t bend to your ideas and thoughts, it is what it is.
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
Very abstract response. Im not exactly sure what you’re even arguing, that you have it worse now? By the same logic you weren’t there in the 2010s trying to make it. How could you possibly know it will be worse going forward? No one knows the future. The young pilots that got hired in 2022 at 24 years old were an aberration, every era before and likely after will be harder by comparison
120SR@reddit
Yes I’m arguing things are going to be worse for up and coming pilots moving forward.
The reason I know how it was then, how it is now, and how it’s likely to be going forward is statistics from back then, what’s things are like for myself and my peers today and stats about newly minted pilots (predicting the future).
It took me ~3000TT, 2000 turbine PIC in turboprops (500 of which being multi), an ATP, 320 type rating, a degree and no failures to get hired into the right seat of a jet a year ago and I’ve yet to make over 100k/yr.
You came up in a time when the cost of living and houses was half of what it is today, you could rent a 172 wet and dual for less than 200/hr and take a checkride with less than a 6 month wait for under 1k. Also there were less than half the number of new commercial pilots that are being created today with a growing industry that allows the pyramid scheme of everyone becoming a CFI to actually work.
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
I see your point. That was a gauntlet Im sure. The regional hiring environment in 2017 was absolutely insane I will concede, because the market was underpaying the position
120SR@reddit
Agreed, the regionals being a tread and under respected labor group is a reality I wish didn’t exist.
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
There are fewer time building jobs now, but they pay wildly better. There weren’t exactly a ton back 2014 either to be clear. I flew a caravan for zero dollars and loaded the damn thing in order to get hours
120SR@reddit
Time building jobs pay widely better? I flew turbines for a dropzone on fast food hourly rates with 0 daily or monthly guarantee. Many CFIs today are lucky to make 2k a month and most are driving uber eats because they can’t get any work. This is also in a time when it takes 5 times that to qualify for a mortgage
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
Regional jobs. Part 135 jobs (jet)
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
How likely is it that regional airlines would decrease their pilots’ pay after having a high supply of incoming pilots with lower demand for a while?
Predictions on regional contracts, pay scales
When the pay scales revert for the wholly owned regionals next year, will others follow suit?
Regional pilot pay
pandabear6969@reddit
Who will follow suit? None. You have to negotiate a new contract, and unions won’t go back. Now… pay probably wont go up much, and if it does, it will probably only be at a few percentage increase a year for inflation. I just foresee what’s going on with Allegiant where negotiations for a new contract will be years until the cycle favors pilots again
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
Union? Contract? laughs in OO
pandabear6969@reddit
I stand corrected. None will follow suit, except SkyWest lol
OrganizationPlane683@reddit (OP)
All of those predate the new certificate stats that have come out.
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
Those certificate stats are only new if you haven't been paying attention to the pilot supply for the last 5+ years...
Twarrior913@reddit
Respectfully, although that may have been a shock to some new career minded pilots, the oversupply of CFIs has been known for at least three years, probably more. Those threads are probably just as much of a good guess now as compared to then. The 2025 airman report didn’t really tell us much new info that the 2024 and 2023 didn’t already forecast.
Twarrior913@reddit
Trust me man, those hiring teams/boards were well aware of the CFI oversupply prior to the report this year, and prior to last year’s report (and prior to that one, too).
Helpful-Lion-6316@reddit
Lowering wages in this economy is diabolical
yourlocalFSDO@reddit
I certainly wouldn’t be making any large purchases that I couldn’t afford at contractually protected pay scales if I worked at one of those carriers.
CobaltGate@reddit
Sure. Corporations only raised the pay because they had no choice regarding supply and demand. They aren't worried about the 'right thing to do'....they are worried about MAXIMUM profit for shareholders.
InJailForCrimes@reddit
What numbers are you referring to exactly?
Flyward_Aerospace@reddit
Tbh even if base pay stays flat the work rules are probably what gets rolled back first — that's where a lot of the real value is. The wildcard nobody seems to be talking about is the UAM/advanced air mobility space. Those operators are eventually going to need certified pilots and there's basically no established pipeline yet. Not saying it saves the regionals, just that there might be some interesting optionality for people who don't want to grind for a decade.
Rough_Engineering743@reddit
Doubt it. Paying pre 2022 rates would be nuts.
Working_Football1586@reddit
Im sure it wont be as drastic. Thats why you already see Skywest yearly increases are far less than cpi so they can widdle it back down.
saml01@reddit
You guys don't work in the trades, so no, I don't expect a job that requires extensive training to all of the sudden have lowering salaries. That's like expecting doctors to have lower salaries because CMS cut reimbursement and insurance got more expensive. They'll sooner raise ticket prices and take away the free snacks or hire less nurses.
Several-Village5814@reddit
It’s much easier to become a pilot than doctor though.
Several-Village5814@reddit
Nah. All the captain pay for FOs will go away, the 400% premium trips will go away, and the regionals will let inflation do the rest!
AnnualWhole4457@reddit
Probably not pay cuts but definitely severe pay stagnation.
prex10@reddit
$250,000 bonus and 40% raises will go away. I don't they'll go backwards but the massive pay bumps and free money will certainly go away.
Chadwickpilot@reddit
Regional pay is more related to Major and legacy hiring. A glut of 1500 hour pilots will mostly reduce CFI and entry level jobs. But if the legacy airlines stop hiring for a lengthy period of time then regional pay will stagnate and may move lower depending on the length of stagnation.
Regionals need to keep their wages up to retain captains while bigger airlines are hiring. Being a mid industry level job it is more dependent on what’s going on up the food chain than down. Getting regional jobs will get absolutely more difficult though.
Fun_Supermarket1235@reddit
I think it depends if we end up furloughing at the majors. If that happens the regionals will have to do something too or at least get concessions.
Either way the regionals are still vastly a better place than they were 10yrs ago. So much so, that I’m kinda regretting my decision now to come to the major.
Rainebowraine123@reddit
The pay at 9E at least is permanent (in the sense that it doesnt have an expiration date). But like others said we probably won't get an increase besides to keep up with inflation for a while.
bigplaneboeing737@reddit
Cope with my flair, but I don’t think it’s going away. Don’t expect any raises anytime soon though.
sprulz@reddit
This (CA pay only if you take the first available upgrade) is what I’ve been hearing a lot lately as well.
tomsawyerisme@reddit
I hear theyre going to take out a lot of stuff in the contract in response to keeping the pay. (Like the OT open time rules, all FO captain pay stuff, and some reassignment rules)
sprulz@reddit
After seeing how badly the CA side is staffed I am a lot more confident about us keeping the current pay rates at the very least. There may be a lot of low time guys looking to join regionals but they cannot afford to lose a bunch of FOs especially if they’re close to upgrade. We’re running out of CAs almost every day in ORD. They declare critical coverage at least once a week.
In the last union survey I, and many other FOs I know, made it very clear that if there were pay concessions we’d walk away. I would go to a 135, cargo, wherever would take me. It is literally impossible to survive on $50/hr these days.
I’m not sure how they could make the open time rules and especially the reassignment rules worse than they already are.
tomsawyerisme@reddit
I really hope they keep it it would be brutal if not. I remeber when they took out coffee from the crew room and wings for kids due to budget, so I've never had much faith in the company spending money when they see an out. Hoping I'm super wrong though its a great pilot group.
OrganizationPlane683@reddit (OP)
I really hope your right
Negative_Swan_9459@reddit
The tide will continue to rise above it. Another round of major contracts will kick off over the next few years and leave them further behind. Regional lifer copium is a hell of a drug. Get out asap.
Matuteg@reddit
Well maybe go to a regional that has a contract with the wages on the contract and not just a little paper expiration dates.
sirpsychosexy8@reddit
I spent 2017-2022 at the regionals making 36-88 an hour and was a captain there for half the time. The conditions now are vastly more livable. Even stagnating wages are still a huge improvement from the situation not long ago at all. I’m glad for that but the fact of the matter is I see a lot of weird attitude from the new crop, bitterness, saying things like I’m catching a ride rather than asking for the jumpseat. Mind you Im a millennial not some boomer. I’m not saying they should suffer like I did but this idea that their is injustice because their progression has stalled gets under my skin
huertamatt@reddit
Likely won’t go away, but it won’t increase. Still essentially a pay cut with inflation.
rFlyingTower@reddit
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It looks like a lot of regional pay increases are set to expire in the coming months. With the oversupply of 1500 hr cpl’s I don’t see why the regionals will keep the pay increases (at least for fo’s).
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