Ford’s Biggest Product Push In Years Will See 80% Of Its American Lineup Refreshed By 2029, including next generation F150
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Mr-Toyota@reddit
Where's my ford focus bitches.
caterham09@reddit
Any manual version of the previous Ford focus was a genuinely great economy car. The fusion was awesome as well in basically every variation
Chudsaviet@reddit
Manual gearbox does not make any sense besides sport cars. Today, its less efficient than modern options.
nc_nicholas@reddit
I legitimately hate automatics. They're fucking boring, and I think contribute to the widespread lack of driving ability that all of us witness virtually every day.
Chudsaviet@reddit
Try EV.
nc_nicholas@reddit
Never met an EV owner who could drive for shit
Chudsaviet@reddit
You just lie here.
Fiiv3s@reddit
Dude says he hates autos because they are boring and you go and suggest he drive an even MORE boring type of car?
Chudsaviet@reddit
EVs are anything but boring.
popsicle_of_meat@reddit
What about for people who just like driving manuals? Even if not a sports car.
Chudsaviet@reddit
Well, nothing bad in this.
caterham09@reddit
The manual experience wasn't what I was talking about. It's just that the automatic power shift transmission in those cars was a pile of shit. They broke constantly
Chudsaviet@reddit
Oh, I agree then.
Yankee831@reddit
Problem is it wasn’t actually an economy car. I was working at Hertz at the time and always was dumbfounded at how actually cheap/barebones the Japanese sedans were in comparison. With higher MSRP’s and zero custom order ability. The whole reason the DTC transmission ended up being an issue was they literally had to figure out how to sell more car for less where Toyota can afford to have out of date vehicles and doesn’t have to push the limits of features/performance and cost/profit.
iamkeerock@reddit
I actually own a 2014 Fusion with a manual transmission. Great reliable car (anecdotally), wish they still made them. Currently at 260,000 miles.
Sad_Cumme@reddit
Same with the Fiesta manual.
helmethair@reddit
Loved my manual fiesta.
Does_Not_Use_Clothes@reddit
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CrashingBlumpkins46@reddit
As a Fiesta ST owner, this is the mating call of my people
Intrepidatious@reddit
I was just searching online for a manual Mk3 earlier today. I loved my 14 hatch but that damn Powershift. If I could find one in decent shape with a manual (at a reasonable price) I’d buy it. All the manuals are mostly STs or RSs or completely bare-bones.
RedditDon3@reddit
Had a Fusion for rental while we were in Vegas. Surprisingly smooth ride.
Hustletron@reddit
Is there a manual variant of any of Nissan’s arenas in North America?
Drzhivago138@reddit
Why would there be?
OldRed91@reddit
The 2025 Versa is still up on the Nissan website for now. Once that's gone, the Z will be the only manual Nissan for sale in the US.
MartyCool403@reddit
In Canada they only sell the Sentra and it's CVT only.
Mnm0602@reddit
If there are their product person should be fired.
xt1nct@reddit
My 2012 focus with the dsg made it to 144k and is still chugging along.
Clutch pack was replaced under warranty few years ago.
It has original suspension. The only thing I did was thermostat, plugs, tires, cabin temp sensors and brakes.
Sometimes the car acts weird I reverse but otherwise it’s fine.
I’m going to get rid of it mainly due to rust.
Yankee831@reddit
They’re literally building a whole new EV platform for competing with Tesla/BYD. Farley wants sedans back in the mix but they’re going to be EV because the economics make it feasible unlike traditional gas.
Mnm0602@reddit
r/cars in a nutshell.
munche@reddit
Yeah can you believe these people asking automakers to make the kind of cars they want to buy? We should really just be lining up for whatever makes the automaker the most profit and thanking them
samcuu@reddit
Do you or any people asking actually want to buy American econobox? Why would you want one over a Corolla or Civic?
munche@reddit
I owned a 2016 Focus ST and was generally excited about Ford's lineup, the Fiesta ST is renowned amongst folks who actually drive their cars, and the Focus RS is still selling for almost it's MSRP new.
Now the sedans in my driveway are Korean and Japanese because they abandoned the segment
samcuu@reddit
Those are the more expensive enthusiast trims. You need the base version selling in big numbers to justify it.
The Focus and Focus ST were still available in Europe until 2025, and they look pretty good. But for most people who still want a normal sedan as family car/commuter it's pretty hard to pick a base Focus over a Civic for example, or even a Kia K4.
munche@reddit
We're comparing the Kia K4 which launched this year to the Ford Focus which was discontinued close to a decade ago
The Focus was absolutely competitive with the Asian cars and in fact a much better package overall (I had a non-enthusiast Hyundai before and the Focus was much preferred)
Everyone talks about the cars not selling but they *were* selling. They just weren't making Number Go Up for shareholders enough, and Ford decided they could please the stockholders more by selling less cars at a higher price. They abandoned the entire customer segment, the customers didn't abandon them. GM did the same thing, they just did it quietly and slowly rather than all at once like Ford did. They publicly said it was just hard for them to compete with Asian brands on small affordable cars so they'd rather go make Truck and SUV money instead because they could more easily make higher profits.
It's absolutely wild to me how much people refuse to believe reality and all just want to say "Nobody wanted these cars actually and they were forced to get rid of them"
Mnm0602@reddit
It’s shocking that automakers make these kinds of decisions without regard for what consumers are actually buying. You’re so smart.
munche@reddit
Ford was selling half a million of their cars a year when they announced they were focusing on more expensive models to make more profit per unit
But I guess I'm not smart enough to figure out that when Ford explicitly says we'll just make higher margin vehicles because we don't want to compete with Asian brands that it means that nobody likes those cars anymore
It takes someone with a Rick and Morty level intellect to come to the conclusion "I'll like what large companies tell me to like"
Mnm0602@reddit
Such great points, you should advise Ford.
Immynimmy@reddit
This sub and every sub basically is just constant whining, hating, and complaining.
GregAllAround@reddit
Thread full of a bunch of basement dwellers surprised that someone ponying up the money for a new car in 2026 would rather have as much interior space and ground clearance as possible and therefore have no interest whatsoever in a base model fiesta or focus
enfuego138@reddit
This is always true until the economy tanks. Seems like way too many of the people on here forget how badly American car companies fucked themselves over in the early 2000s - and the 1970s.
They just can’t help themselves. Fortunately it seems like everyone on here is ok with another round of bailouts next year.
Thomas_633_Mk2@reddit
Isn't the cheapest EV on sale right now in the US built by one of the Big 3? And the cheapest pickup truck is by another one of the big 3. And both Ford and GM sell cars under 30k.
enfuego138@reddit
The only Ford under $30k is the Maverick work truck. Doesn’t count. The cheapest Ford Bronco is $32,000. Conversely, you could buy a Ford Focus for $22,000 in 2007, adjusted for inflation. Ford was the only Big Three automaker that didn’t need to be bailed out in 2009.
In 2007 Ford had the lowest average selling price. Now it’s reversed by a wide margin. Ford’s average new vehicle price is 35% higher than in 2007, even adjusting for inflation. They have literally no way to build a cheaper car in any reasonable amount of time if there’s a downturn in the market and it’s clear that new car buyers are already overextended.
jabba_the_nutttttt@reddit
Then I want everyone to stop bitching about the price, reliability, and gas prices since apparently everyone only wants to buy massive suvs
GregAllAround@reddit
You know a base Camry costs literally a hair under $30k nowadays, right? Just $2,000 more and you can get a base RAV4 instead. Sure, it may not be as efficient as a Camry but the Rav4 will still get over 40 mpg easy.
I used Toyota as an example since they’re one of the only companies still making compacts on this scale, but if an actual consumer buying a new car in 2026 this is the decision you face. Cost of ownership is likely to be a wash and the RAV4 is simply a more practical vehicle for the average American family
Skensis@reddit
Reason the rav4 sells better, a little bit more and you just get a better appliance car than a Camry for 99% of buyers.
None of these cars are for enthusiast or particularly fun, but they do what they need to, and do them well. Blobby CUVs are just like the optimal shape for this sort of vehicle.
lumpialarry@reddit
“Massive SUVs” they make them smaller than Chevy Tahoes now.
Skensis@reddit
I got a loaner X1 and thing feels big cause it sits so high up, but it has a smaller footprint than my M2 which surprised me.
Beware_the_silent@reddit
The people buying these cars are not the ones bitching bout price, and gas prices. The ones who are pissed are the ones who think everyone should be driving a compact 2 door with a family of 5.
besselfunctions@reddit
Henry Ford made a vehicle for the common man and now Ford doesn't want to make any more "commodity vehicles."
clickstops@reddit
Isn’t the ford maverick a pretty good one?
GregAllAround@reddit
In what universe is the F-150, the literal best selling vehicle in the country, not a commodity vehicle? Lmfao
jabba_the_nutttttt@reddit
Because it's dumb expensive compared to a normal sedan. Makes zero sense
Drzhivago138@reddit
Sedans aren't the norm anymore.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
How many people would really look Ford econoboxes when they release again ?
Most econobox buyers still go with Japanese automakers because they don’t believe Detroit automakers able to make good econoboxes. As you’re Toyota guy, you know about it.
cat_prophecy@reddit
A big part of the reason that Ford ditched sedans in the US is because sales were flagging. If they were selling 200,000+ units a year, there would have been no reason to cancel it.
hells_cowbells@reddit
The Fusion sold 110k units in 2020, its last year. The Focus sold 113k in 2018, its last full year. The Fiesta sold 60k in 2019, its last year.
Sales start dropping because Ford ignored them. The Fusion was basically the same car from 2013-2020. In the same time, both the Accord and Camry had two generations.
iamkeerock@reddit
Check sales on the Maverick, first year 2022, I think sales were under 100k units, though Covid supply issues were a constraint. Even now, I think sales are under 200k units per year and the Maverick is considered a hot seller.
Ancient_Persimmon@reddit
They were selling in those numbers, but it still wasn't sustainable for them.
RichardNixon345@reddit
It was also "We can build more profitable things with those assembly lines". The Maverick and Bronco Sport don't need tons of incentives to move like the Fusion/MKZ did. And they make way more on Bronco/Ranger than they did on the Focus.
munche@reddit
They were selling 500,000 units a year of the models they cancelled and gave the explicit reason that they wanted to make higher margin lower volume vehicles instead of focusing on mass market vehicles
Why does everyone on here just gaslight themselves into pretending it was what the market wanted
smells-like-updog@reddit
Unfortunately there’s no way of knowing because they (along with the rest of Detroit) no longer make cars and seemingly only focus on high margin vehicles.
I have no want or need for a $50k pickup. I have no desire for a crossover or SUV. I have nothing but good things to say about my decade old Focus ST and would buy a new one tomorrow if they actually kept making them. But they did not and I have zero interest in the brand now.
GregAllAround@reddit
Would you buy a Corolla though? Genuinely asking, I think the GR Corolla is a real spiritual successor to the RS
smells-like-updog@reddit
Oh it’s absolutely on the shortlist. Just patiently waiting to see if the rumors on the 4 cylinder are true before making any decisions
No-Definition1474@reddit
Yeah but price out a decent Toyota 'econobox' and then find out what the lead time is on getting one.
Toyota is fast becoming a victim of their own success.
RunnerLuke357@reddit
Toyota thinks their shit doesn't stink, which kind of worked 15 years ago when they were kind of the best (though I'd argue GM had them beat in truck engines as long as you ignore the AFM 5.3, the Gen4 4.3, 4.8, 6.0 and 6.2 are masterpieces) but they've fallen off since then but their prices are higher than ever.
munche@reddit
About 500,000 a year when they stopped making them
Ford also very explicitly said they were not making them because they wanted to focus on more profitable more expensive vehicles and not because they weren't popular
But Reddit *loves* just gaslighting themselves into thinking they never liked sedans because Ford told them crossovers make more profit for shareholders
Macgyver452@reddit
They’re coming out in 2028, but Ford already has 6 recalls out of them today.
Apexnanoman@reddit
Best we can do is a $60 ranger that has 4 doors and weighs 5200 lbs.
rideincircles@reddit
They have a bunch of new platforms in the works with fully redesigned EV platforms that include castings. The first 2 are the midsize EV truck in the $30k range and an F150.
I got to see them present at a conference and both of those points are mentioned in the presentation along with more platforms and programs not mentioned.
https://youtu.be/w8kHCT4m0fg?si=RRy9DE3Tc-R4tEB0
CargoTron@reddit
What`s the thing with the love for sedans? I get the hate for SUV, but sedan is the least practical car.
lumpialarry@reddit
On the used car lot with all the other cars for people that can’t afford to buy new.
toeknee710@reddit
The korean and japanese brands took that market share
GTOdriver04@reddit
I want sedans period.
Don’t give me more jellybean fake suv blob-things.
Give me a proper RWD sedan. I’ll gladly buy one.
Hell, give us the Interceptor and it’ll be perfect.
Mojave_Idiot@reddit
Feeling increasingly Cuban about my vehicles.
hungryhummushead@reddit
I feel you on this. I've had a Ford Fusion Energi for 9 years. It's given me 0 issues. I was seriously looking to finally trade it in and did a ton of research on the market, took a bunch of test drives, etc. Finally settled on saying screw it because new and used cars are so overpriced, what's out there just kind of stinks. I miss vehicles from the 2010s: cheaper, generally better built, has the right amount of technology and physical buttons. Figured I'd just throw a new set of speakers on the Fusion and keep that baby until it completely falls apart.
That1one1dude1@reddit
The only issue I’ve had with my 2010 Fusion Hybrid is the rocker panels rusting in front of the rear wheels.
I don’t think they ever fixed that flaw
cat_prophecy@reddit
Adjusted for inflation, cars are actually cheaper on the whole than in the past.
The base price of the Fusion in 2007 was $17,000, or $27,000 in 2026 dollars. The base price of the current Camry is only $2000 more than that and is much better equipped.
SophistXIII@reddit
bUt mUh WaGeZ hAvNt KepT uP
hungryhummushead@reddit
Yeah yeah yeah, you're right. But many (not all) of those new cars that are cheaper adjusted to inflation kind of stink, and the used market is nothing like it used to be, partly because the cheaper vehicles of the old days don't exist anymore. My biggest gripe is that Ford, as an example, doesn't make anything half as good as the Fusion or some of the other lost studs from its lineup from the 2010s. My main point was that I surveyed the used and new landscape extensively and wasn't happy with what I saw, so here I am keeping a car that I've had already for close to a decade. I personally think 90s and 2010s were peak eras for autos.
TrafficOnTheTwos@reddit
2018-22 is the sweet spot. CarPlay + no subscriptions.
thetimechaser@reddit
Nah go back one generation. Early 00s to 2014 or so
Mojave_Idiot@reddit
In the United States I wouldn’t go back that far because most of our domestic vehicles just weren’t that good.
Teens were a sweet spot on features and performance and price though.
frogsRfriends@reddit
You have to pick the right cars, gmt800 platform starts at the 2000s and is considered one of the most reliable platforms ever just like the crown Vic as well
hells_cowbells@reddit
Yeah. I mean, my Fusion has an 8" screen and still plays music and podcasts from my phone.
frogsRfriends@reddit
Nailed it, just enough computer with out it really even being that much. No over the air updates bullshit or other connectivity. Just a computer to run the car
thetimechaser@reddit
Yup, no connected services is best
El_mochilero@reddit
I just installed CarPlay in my 2007 Corvette and I feel like I unlocked a cheat code.
TheeMotionOfTheOcean@reddit
Did the same on my ‘04 BMW, with the backup camera
Game changer
fistfulofbottlecaps@reddit
Likewise... I've got an 03 Grand Cherokee with the straight six that needs a few things that'll probably be my next daily after I pay off and sell my 18 VW Tiguan...
spamcritic@reddit
crys in rust belt , it's weird seeing people from the south on reddit with late 90s cars still going.
No-Definition1474@reddit
Meh. Make cars again and price them somewhere below the stratosphere.
Oh and maybe make them at least good enough thst you dont have to recall them all. Or not, at least do the first part.
KingRBPII@reddit
They need to rip out all the tech
Mother____Clucker@reddit
I agree and think that at a minimum, they should bring back the Fusion and Focus to compete with the Camry/Accord and Camry/Civic. But development costs are massive, and they aren't going to bear those costs to move 50,000 units per year.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Nah. It's like saying your average gym member should go compete with guys in the NFL. They'll just get crushed - every single time.
hells_cowbells@reddit
The Fusion could go toe to toe with the Accord and Camry. I was looking at both of those, and bought the Fusion, not just because it was cheaper. It was quieter than either of them and rides better, and had more options for the same price.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Sure. But that's not in the consumer mindset and it's an uphill battle that Ford isn't interested in.
GregAllAround@reddit
People are huffing gas in this comment section. Ford econoboxes (apart from the STs and RSs) were largely pieces of shit, when’s the last time you saw a base model Fiesta on the road?
Shmokesshweed@reddit
My mom's Fiesta went through 3 transmissions.
GregAllAround@reddit
People shit on Ford recall numbers nowadays but the real ones remember just how bad the actual vehicle quality was from the mid 2000’s through the mid-2010’s
GregAllAround@reddit
People need to accept that compacts are a dead segment for US automakers at this point. (I’m even dubious about that rumored Camaro/Buick coupe and sedan that GM is rumored to be developing, I’d love to be wrong there though.)
No reason for Ford to sink money into making a hatchback or compact sedan, just like VW won’t do the same with developing a truck to compete in the American market
What_the_8@reddit
How many Camrys and Corollas did Toyota sell last last year? Over 500,000 combined, that’s a lot of market share to give up on for a lineup for SUVs.
GregAllAround@reddit
Ford sold ~825,000 F-series trucks alone last year, that doesn’t count for SUV or crossover sales in the same frame. Why would they sink hundreds of millions of dollars into competing for a slice of a smaller pie? Do you really think Ford Motor Company’s bottom line will be shifted by ~150,000 sales of thin-margin compact vehicles?
I love compact cars, I’d love if American driving and consumption preferences were more in line with Europe, but they just aren’t and in some cases there’s good reason for that
No-Definition1474@reddit
A LOT of those trucks are fleet sales. They kinda need to be pulled out from private owners.
DodgerBlueRobert1@reddit
And, that's the F-Series, not just F-150. The real number of F-150's being sold to private buyers is far less than that 825,000 number.
Drzhivago138@reddit
Apparently it's 60-67% just the F-150. And F-250/350s are sold to private buyers as well.
DodgerBlueRobert1@reddit
Yeah, I get that. But my point was, the F-Series is different than just the F-150 model itself. And the amount of the F-150's sold to private buyers is far less than the 825,000 number. Let's say 65% of the 8250,000 is just the F-150. That's about 535,000. How many of those are private retail as opposed to fleet sales? 450,000? 400,000? No matter, it's gonna be a lot less than the number that encompasses the "whole" Series.
Last year, the RAV4 sold about 480,000 units. Some of those are sold to fleets, primarily rental agencies I'm sure. So that very well could be on par with how many F-150's were sold to individuals last year.
GregAllAround@reddit
Why exclude fleet sales? Ford made the focus and fiesta available to fleets also. The money from fleet sales is just as green as the money from private sales. Maybe slightly thinner margins but that’s money that can be made up in parts and maintenance sales
Mother____Clucker@reddit
The issue as I see it is that those who buy Camrys and Corollas aren't going to cross shop anything else. MAYBE an Accord/Civic, but they aren't going to be swayed by the likes of Ford, GM, Kia, et al.
niftyjack@reddit
After ground clearance differences, a Maverick is only 7” taller than an Accord. I can’t believe a basic sedan on the C2 platform would be that difficult to develop.
Drzhivago138@reddit
It wouldn't be difficult at all; they already did it [back in 2018](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus_(fourth_generation)) and are still making one in China. The trick is making it profitable.
OldRed91@reddit
I know this is just anecdotal, but I'm seeing a lot of new Civics on the road. Are sedans getting popular again?
biggsteve81@reddit
No. Their sales have been bolsters by a very tired Corolla and the new Accord is such a terrible value that buyers are choosing the Civic instead. But sales are still on a steady decline and only 2/3 of what they were in 2019.
DodgerBlueRobert1@reddit
The Corolla might be very tired, but it's outselling the Civic this year.
Jake0024@reddit
I appreciate that Ford brought back mid-size trucks (Ranger and Maverick) while everybody else is making their full-size and super-size trucks bigger with every generation
bigcoffeeguy50@reddit
Best we can do is infotainment system that doesn’t ever work
GregAllAround@reddit
Would you rather they go the GM route of not recalling anything even when if their engines are literal grenades? I’d rather buy a Ford knowing they at least somewhat back the product outside of warranty with safety recalls
FloridaMan_Unleashed@reddit
Would it really be a Ford if it didn’t get recalled at least once? /s
TheDirtDude117@reddit
Man the quality control is going to be amazing I'm sure!!
Simon676@reddit
Yes, just lift it a bit more. It's not perfect until an average male standing in front of it is entire hidden from view by the massive hood.
After-Wall-5020@reddit
Make something that can compete with Chinese EVs.
Yankee831@reddit
That’s part of their plan with the new EV platform…
thetimechaser@reddit
They can’t so they legislate against them a build bigger trucks because they’ve painted themselves into a corner
arsinoe716@reddit
Let's see what Ford has:
Bronco
Bronco Sport
Explorer
Maverick
Mustang
Mustang e
F 150/250/350....etc.
Not much a lineup.
Yankee831@reddit
They’ve basically been increasing their sales/market share with that lineup.
Small-Olive-7960@reddit
Skipped the escape, expedition, and ranger. Plus thats a decent lineup, especially with all the various trim levels.
Shmokesshweed@reddit
Escape is done.
Photon__Sphere@reddit
How about bring back some of the cars you killed off?
GregAllAround@reddit
Yeah, I’m sure they’ll invest millions into tooling and developing a new focus because the old ones sold super well
Oh wait
Aero06@reddit
The Focus routinely moved 800k units/year globally during its tenure, killing it off had more to do with CAFE/Euro 6 standards and the Powershift Transmission affair than it did with sales.
GregAllAround@reddit
Yes, it’s related to sales because even with ~800,000 sales globally the cost to develop a new platform compliant with regulations was clearly too much to justify.
Compact cars are very thin margin, to the point where automakers might even lose money on certain specs and trim levels depending on final sale price.
Aero06@reddit
It's related to development costs, margins, and regulations, not sales. 800k units is an objectively large block in the automotive sector, point being that the Focus did sell super well, this notion people have that manufacturers abandoned compact cars because consumers stopped buying them is patently false, they were regulated into unfeasibility.
Yankee831@reddit
It’s both. They were regulated to the point it doesn’t make sense unless you’re moving lots of product or can import/export.
biggsteve81@reddit
Sales of the Civic and Corolla are down significantly since 2019. Why would Ford want to jump back in that market?
SageAgainstDaMachine@reddit
Go Google sales numbers for the Ford Focus
GregAllAround@reddit
US sales of the Focus peaked at 270,000 during the Obama administration dude, let it go
IThoughtItWasAToyGun@reddit
You seem to hate compact cars so please sell yours and buy a truck
borden5@reddit
200k is significant in that segment no?
Larcye@reddit
It's far more than Fords SUV's do right now per year...
TenguBlade@reddit
The Explorer sold 225k units in 2025 - an about average showing for it - despite the base price being nearly twice that of a Focus.
What_the_8@reddit
Ford doubling down on potential recalls
a49991@reddit
Meh Ford is just overly cautious with their self initiated recalls because they learned their lesson early on with the Pinto. They don’t really have any more issues any any other OEM. They just don’t want to end up in the situation Hyundai is in right now.
And don’t respond with the quote from Fight Club. I know it’s hard to believe, but that movie is fictional.
_galaga_@reddit
They got fined $165 million by the NHSTA a couple years ago for under-reporting so they're over-reporting now probably as a condition of that penalty. It's the kinda thing that happens when you piss off a regulator. Not trying to be a dick but it's not that they're culturally overly cautious because of the Pinto or they learned their lesson. They just got spanked for this recently.
Yankee831@reddit
It’s honestly both. I’d say half of their recalls are not anything required by the NHTSA ruling.
Apexnanoman@reddit
Depends. Does the PR hit cost a single penny less than the recall?
If so....they'll let em burn. Literally. Fords CEO would do the pinto thing all over again if it lead to .005% higher profit in the next quarter.
a49991@reddit
Source that isn’t Fight Club?
Apexnanoman@reddit
Vioxx is a good example of how corporations work. Anti inflammatory drug. Works great. Kills people. Merck knew out of the gate it was dangerous as shit. They hid the studies.
Because they knew it would make more profit than than the lawsuits and payouts would cost by the time it got taken off the market.
(As an aside I've never even watched fight club.)
a49991@reddit
Never heard of that car!
Apexnanoman@reddit
Might as well be a car. Corporations all operate on whatever makes the next quarters profits the highest. If killing people in job lots does that? That's the route they will take.
Herr_Quattro@reddit
Well that is still the same problem- at the end of the day, people are unnecessarily dying as the result of cost cutting, but what forces them to act is bad PR? That is still so messed up.
a49991@reddit
You’ll have to draw the line somewhere on budget. You can make the safest car in the world but people won’t buy it if it costs $100k, looks ugly and/or gets 10mpg. Just like they also won’t buy a death trap. It’s a balance.
MallardsAreGreat@reddit
I’ll take Ford recalls over GM class action lawsuits.
Designfanatic88@reddit
Those small pee pee cars (ford trucks) are really popular huh?
matmanx1@reddit
How about a reliability push along with it, Ford?
BadMantaRay@reddit
Who cares?
Car-face@reddit
Ah, good old Ford. when in doubt, just build trucks, refresh trucks and introduce more trucks and pretend everything will be fine.
Jim777PS3@reddit
That is maybe the ugliest front end I have ever seen on an F-150. By a lot.
Drzhivago138@reddit
The one that says "SUPER DUTY" in massive letters?
NeatlyCritical@reddit
Still never buying an american product.
Fordfanatic2025@reddit
I really hope that one of those products is the next gen mustang. We know it's coming, we just don't know when.
cloudguy-412@reddit
If all of your existing cars are replaced part by part through recalls, is that a product refresh??
SnowLepor@reddit
New recall record coming is what I read.
velociraptorfarmer@reddit
I fail to see how this does anything but cause further problems with build quality and recalls...
SamsungAppleOnePlus@reddit
Can’t wait for the F150 to be even larger for some reason
B00marangTrotter@reddit
F150 will be 22 feet tall and come with elevator running boards.
It's front view blind spot will be 27 feet and it will come standard with a pedestrian wiper.
🤠
salmon-choir@reddit
4 door mustang please.
Designatedrhythm@reddit
Is the Bronco getting a refresh by then?
idkbruh653@reddit
Not excited for this at all considering 98% of Fords lineup is trucks and SUVs.
ChicSheikh@reddit
At least there's still that 2% ... until Ford decides to make "Mustang" just a trim level on the F-150 with a neat pony badge and Bullitt Green paint.
bigcoffeeguy50@reddit
Oh wow, because Ford is just known for their outstanding reliability for new gen vehicles …..
NotSoBadBrad@reddit
This will certainly help their current recall issues /s
_badwithcomputer@reddit
Hopefully that also includes a F150 Raptor refresh. I'm shopping between the TRX and Raptor, I'd rather own a Raptor but the current design is so dated.
Recoil42@reddit
More recalls from half-baked products rushed to market. Fantastic.
These idiots are going to kill the company.
V8-Turbo-Hybrid@reddit
Farly clearly needs to fire these guys.
Recoil42@reddit
Farley is the one who needs to be fired, along with the whole Ford exec team. Absolute bumblefuck behaviour, the lot of them.
Ford: I'll fix your damned company for a cool mil. This is not that hard, holy shit.
OmariiFerrarii@reddit
it is a response to GM eating your truck market here since 2019 and Hyundai Kia about to knock them out of the top three in the USA. This kind of overhaul is maybe three years too late.
TrafficOnTheTwos@reddit
Honestly I really wish the Mustang Mach E was a hybrid and was called the Ford Mach-E or Ford Evos or something.
fiddlythingsATX@reddit
Liftback E-AWD mustang would be INCREDIBLE
TrafficOnTheTwos@reddit
I would daily one in a heartbeat.
K-Rimes@reddit
Dude hell yeah they’re gonna make that British racing green, station wagon, with 500hp stock, in manual car we’re always talking about in here!!
*cries in updated escape the size of an expedition instead.
fiddlythingsATX@reddit
BrownManualAWDDieselWagon
ScienceMechEng_Lover@reddit
The NHTSA is going to be very busy with the next cycle of recalls lol.
Splenda@reddit
Onward, into the past!
mulletstation@reddit
Yawn
Hrmerder@reddit
Probably making sure all of them are extra expensive cause eff making an everyman car (what they did successfully for the past…. 100 years)