Mozilla Introduces Thunderbolt: An Enterprise AI Client Built for Control and Independence
Posted by anh0516@reddit | linux | View on Reddit | 31 comments
tuttiton@reddit
they should have called it thunderBOT
cgaWolf@reddit
..not intelligent enough not to mess with a registered trademark.
Happy_Phantom@reddit
Is this one of those "AI Playgrounds" you can find on desktop Windows when you buy a PC with special AI-supporting hardware?
Actual__Wizard@reddit
Does this actually work well with local models, yes or no?
That's my only question.
If yes, then I'll try it out, if no, then there's no purpose to this product for me.
Top-Rub-4670@reddit
Literally the first bullet point:
Damaniel2@reddit
Stick to making a browser and drop the AI bullshit.
KnowZeroX@reddit
AI is part of making a browser, you know things like local translation and etc.
That said, this is MZLA, while under Mozilla, MZLA works on thunderbird, not firefox.
Actual__Wizard@reddit
Translation can be done via an API.
KnowZeroX@reddit
To a 3rd party? Or you expect the average person to go out their way to install more software for common functionality?
Actual__Wizard@reddit
Integrating an API is not necessarily 3rd party software. They can run the servers themselves.
KnowZeroX@reddit
So what do you expect an average person to do? On Chrome, they right click and translate sending all their info to google. They expect to be able to translate stuff as basic functionality.
How do you see an average user using firefox doing if they want to translate?
Actual__Wizard@reddit
It could be setup in a where where Mozilla does the translation on their servers...
It could work exactly the same way it does now. It could just be updated on the server side instead of having to update the client.
Top-Rub-4670@reddit
It's unfortunate that you fail to grasp the benefits of having local translations in a browser.
You are entirely blinded by your trust in mozilla. Personally, if I was forced to use a remote API for my translations, I'd trust Google over Mozilla to keep my data safe.
KnowZeroX@reddit
But Mozilla doesn't want it to go their servers, the whole point of privacy is to limit the amount of outgoing data as reasonably possible.
What Mozilla does now is much better where translation are done locally unlike with chrome. There is no need to connect to other servers. The only connection that happens is downloading the 100-300mb model files once when you want a language, in similar way how language packs work.
PS Browsers are careful about just implementing APIs because if every browser does their own thing it becomes a big mess. Each API has to be well thought out in hopes of pushing it towards being a standard. But even with APIs, you still would want browsers to have built in translation without people needing to go look elsewhere.
AdventurousFly4909@reddit
Like it, hosting your own LLMs is a great solution to the piracy nightmare that is LLMs. I wouldn't say no to a highly polished interface to access LLMs. And I think corps and goverments would be really happy with it since they can use it to make sure their data never leaves their grasp.
I for example use local LLMs to draft emails that contain my or other peoples personal information. I also use it to ask questions that would normally be refused by cloud models such as questions about piracy. ❤️ heretic models.
CICaesar@reddit
Also as of now there is a shortage of options in this space, and most tools are open core, not FOSS. I'm using LibreChat which is one of the FOSS ones and I like it, but I would love to have something backed by Mozilla.
DizzyCardiologist213@reddit
Ghee, I love to go look at my email and have five or ten other things flung at me that I can't really trust....
....just to be able to go and look at the actual email and find out what it says.
let me guess - interaction with the AI function is a saleable data stream of some sort.
KnowZeroX@reddit
It all depends on the implementation, for example, ever run into a situation where you need an old email, you know some stuff about the email, but no matter how you search for it, you can't find it because the exact keywords just don't match for one reason or another?
So something like this with LOCAL AI, can be quite useful where you tell it what you remember about the email and it will use AI to try to find it.
wodes@reddit
Don't forget to donate to Mozilla (your time and/or your money) so they can dump Thunderbird, fire devs and make multi-million dollar salaries for the CEO of the foundation.
KnowZeroX@reddit
From what I heard Mozilla is different from MZLA that works on thunderbird, they are under the same banner but serve different purposes.
Mozilla - donations go towards digital advocacy such as protecting internet rights, privacy and etc
MZLA - donations go towards thunderbird development
rv77ax@reddit
The name (commonly used by Apple users), the domain (.io will be removed soon), the AI hype.
Whoever approves this in Mozilla clearly should not have works there.
Ok_Mammoth589@reddit
Thunderbolt is clearly a callback to thunderbird. Why on earth do we have to give up words just because a corporation got there first. I'm no stallman but you guys and your deference to corps really make me feel like it
natermer@reddit
Ever heard of the term SEO?
When it comes to names of things in computer science it matters because that is how you find documentation, execute commands, etc etc.
If you name something so that it is impossible to find in a search engine or conflicts with a bunch of already existing things that people use then that is a fail.
The issues are practical. So no need to be sensitive over it.
jar36@reddit
If you're going to steal someone's thunder, at least show some class and make it the Thunder Cats
Sixguns1977@reddit
Thundercat V cable.
JeffCarr@reddit
Sure, but there are several words starting with thunder, you don't have to pick one currently in use in the tech sector. They already had that issue with the Phoenix browser... Twice.
anh0516@reddit (OP)
Why
pet3121@reddit
Its not for end users. Its for enterprises anything AI is money so they do what they can.
Wheatleytron@reddit
Because the world's dumbest people always get put in charge. And right now, all of then are obsessed over the magic computer program that talks to them.
tulpyvow@reddit
So more AI... and its sharing the name with the fucking data/charging cable standard????
Fire whoever named that lmaooo
FlapYoJacks@reddit
No thanks. I don't want more LLM garbage shoved in my face.