having to turn off copilot multiple times a day in outlook (per platform)
Posted by debrisslide@reddit | sysadmin | View on Reddit | 33 comments
Noticed on Monday that there were giant Copilot buttons on my email - I use the web client on desktop and the iOS app on my phone. Had to turn them off. Fine. Used to Microsoft inserting it at multiple touch points and that once I turned it off, it would stay off. I did have to do it separately in each client app. However, it is turning itself back on multiple times a day, which at least makes itself obvious due to the giant "Summarize this email" button that appears on my web client in the reading pane. This default, always-on, you-have-to-opt-out behavior is such a nightmare; I really feel like it's de-skilling my users and my coworkers in real time and I want to fight someone in a parking lot over it.
I was pleased that I was actually able to uninstall the Copilot Chat app from Windows 11 and it seems to stay uninstalled now and doesn't rise from the dead if I accidentally press Windows+C instead of Ctrl+C, and I did see their little missive about kind of pulling back from Copilot integration in Windows, but it's like a f*cking hydra.
I'm at a point where I don't exactly regret choosing this career path, but I wish the economy weren't so precarious because I'd love to try to do literally anything else and still be able to provide for my family. I'm so sick of dealing with "AI" being inserted into everything I use and it's especially sickening as an admin who tries to teach people how to understand and use their computers.
AbelViguera06@reddit
If its just for you, why don't you use another client like thunderbird?
Mathisbuilder75@reddit
Same here on the Android app, it just comes back randomly
Centimane@reddit
I think you're playing this too close to the chest.
Work your 8 hours, clock out, let management tie whatever noose they want around themselves.
I know copilot is annoying, but if your management wants it that's the way it's gonna be. No sense fighting it, just try to ignore it.
gg__________@reddit
It's just visually annoying as shit. It pops up everywhere and gets in the way and often covers other text that I want to see. It's not that I'm deeply emotionally invested in removing it, I just want to work my 8 hours and clock out in peace.
aVarangian@reddit
if on the website then I guess custom ublock filters would work
gg__________@reddit
The issue is in the Windows desktop app for me :(
dmitri_ac@reddit
You can disable Copilot in Outlook persistently through the Microsoft 365 admin center rather than fighting it per user per client. Go to Settings > Org settings > Copilot and you can turn off the Outlook integration centrally so it stops respawning. If you don't have access to the admin center it's worth raising with whoever does because the per-client toggle is clearly not sticking by design.
debrisslide@reddit (OP)
I'm fairly certain there's no organizational desire to disable it. My boss is a pretty heavy Copilot user and thinks that our users should be able to access it in whatever way they see fit. But I don't want to have to do this every day.
compmanio36@reddit
Yeah if I disabled Copilot at an org level I'd have a full on C level revolt, including my CIO. He thinks Copilot is great and even responds to more then a few things with "Well Copilot/ChatGPT/etc says...."
I have run out of groans and head shakes at this point.
gg__________@reddit
Had a disagreement with my boss over an HR/income tax question... my source was the official .gov website on the subject, his was ChatGPT. Sigh.
HotTakes4HotCakes@reddit
It's truly astonishing how many people don't seem to understand how bad it makes them look when they just say out loud "Well, chatGPT/Copilot said..."
Loading_M_@reddit
I think was Tom Scott who said it's kinda like "in my dream..."
craigrileyuk@reddit
You ought to reply with "Well, my phone's autocorrect says..."
ender-_@reddit
Or "why are you asking me then instead of Copilot?"
Frothyleet@reddit
It's still better than when people barf LLM slop at you without admitting it came from ChatGPT, because you have to gently pretend that the nonsense came out of their own head.
Cloudraa@reddit
my favourite thing is when people try and troubleshoot copilot problems with copilot, send me a dramatic essay about identity conflicts and stuff and 99% of the time the problem is just that copilot sucks
ProllyJustAnotherBot@reddit
The suits always love NoPilot because they think in bulletpoints... No need for all those pesky technical details... "Just give me the 30,000' summary!" "Can you please boil this down to a thumbsup or thumbsdown emoji? I'm late for a tee time!"
HotTakes4HotCakes@reddit
I mean...you don't have much of a choice here if they're insisting on it. They're probably putting policies in to enforce it. At that point, well...you should know how this works. That's admin power.
If you can't convince them to turn it off or let it be configurable by users, you're just going to have to work around it.
debrisslide@reddit (OP)
It is user-configurable, it just keeps toggling back on. It's not enforced.
Busy_Reporter4017@reddit
I deleted Outlook. Thinking of deleting Copilot. I was never asked to install it!
Stonewalled9999@reddit
jokes on you if you remove it it just keeps comping back.
HotTakes4HotCakes@reddit
You have to disable it or make it user configurable through the admin center, which means having to convince your bosses to allow you to do that. And most of them, at least in my experience, have either drunk the Kool aid or are hesitant to ever change a Microsoft default unless there's a reason.
lakedesire@reddit
I found this thread because I'm having to turn off Copilot daily in Outlook for web and the mobile app. Do I need to beg my system admins to disable it? (I'm in higher education and this is my work email.)
Fallingdamage@reddit
I added a script to our group policy that runs at windows startup. It checks for and purges all AppxPackages and AppxProvisionedPackages for Copilot and associated web runtimes at every boot.
Its been totally silent on the copilot-front for 8 months now. Users dont even know it ever existed.
BigFrog104@reddit
same, we keep having it come back all over even though its blocked on tenant, disabled in GPO and we remove it and it keeps showing up again.
HotTakes4HotCakes@reddit
It's because there's a bajillion little things you have to enable to fully stop it, and they're counting on admins not being willing to deal with it, and even if they are, changing a minor thing every now and again to break the policies.
No-Squash7469@reddit
This is happening on my personal Outlook account as well.
It's hopeless until MS fixes this, it just keeps turning back on repeatedly every day :(
greenstarthree@reddit
The iOS Outlook app is plagued with this currently.
It enables itself multiple times per day on both my work and personal accounts, sometimes within minutes of me disabling it in settings.
billybro1999@reddit
Android too. It's driving me nuts.
greenstarthree@reddit
I feel it’s a “deliberate bug” so MS can inflate the number of active users of copilot in their reports
ProllyJustAnotherBot@reddit
There is no understanding.
There is only summary.
Facts and logic no longer exist.
It's over.
debrisslide@reddit (OP)
happy (?) cake day tho
tarvijron@reddit
My favorite part about copilot is that it’s not quite as good as Gemini at giving me powershell snippets and every day at least once I give it a very basic query “What is causing this error message in Outlook” and it just times out or tells me there’s no information about that error.