PSA - Please check your fuel before calling for a top off.
Posted by Thunderbolt_78@reddit | flying | View on Reddit | 104 comments
I work at an FBO that services two flight schools. One of my job responsibilities includes performing Avgas fuelings for their aircraft. On nicer days, the flight schools are obviously in full swing and calling for fuel every few minutes. A pattern I am noticing is that some of these instructors will clearly not check their fuel before calling for top offs. I literally had a fueling where I put 0.3 gallons back in. The Pipers aren’t so bad, but it’s annoying when the Cessnas do this since you have to get the ladder to reach the caps, all of which takes time as more fuelings pile up.
We are understaffed, so there is only one person on Avgas during a shift. When there’s only one truck going around and there are 10+ aircraft in the queue, it piles up and gets tedious to waste time putting only a gallon back in to top them off when the next guy takes 15-20+ gallons and obviously needs it more.
The moral of the story is to please check your remaining fuel before calling for a top off.
300blkdout@reddit
I get it, but where I fly you have to return the plane with gas at least to the tabs whether you just taxi out and come back or do a 1.5 fuck-around flight.
Had to scrub once after 0.4 on the ground because the Aspen shit the bed and the ramp bro dutifully came out and put a drop of gas in. I really appreciate everything you guys do for us lawnmower pilots.
rufflandings@reddit
Yet another reason to fly KDXR instead of KBDR.
greaseorbounce@reddit
This is so specific to trainers I just have to laugh. In the time I've owned my plane I've literally NEVER fully filled the tanks.
In higher performance aircraft you have to actually manage fuel thoughtful not just call for a top off before every flight with zero thought put into it 🤣
Ok_Age_7641@reddit
When a aircraft is in queue to get “refueled”, it gets refueled. Stop complaining about your job my guy. Contact the flight school if it’s that big of an issue for you
iamtherussianspy@reddit
A PSA back to you: if I (student pilot) request fuel "to tabs" and it only takes 1 gallon then one of us (I'll be honest, probably me) has no idea what level tabs actually indicate and it's worth double checking if I need more (assuming I'm right there) instead of closing up and moving on. Otherwise a second fuel order will come come in when my CFI checks how much fuel I got.
jimngo@reddit
Probably Cessna pilots :). On the flip side, I'm a Piper pilot and I went to take a 172 up for a few laps because there was a chance I may have needed to fly it in the near future. I requested fuel while I was going to the john inside the FBO. They asked me how much and I said "to the tabs." They just looked at me and said "Cessnas don't have tabs."
nomadschomad@reddit
I support transparency on the radio here. If that makes someone feel shame, that’s on them.
“N9434, copy top off, second in line.”
10 min later…
“N6742, top off complete, 0.4 gallons. N9434, you’re next.”
Neat_Row_9580@reddit
Just do your job, no one cares
PlasticDiscussion590@reddit
I’ve been on all sides of this.
As the fueler, it sucks to come out and pump half a gallon in each tank.
As the pilot, if you’re departing and want full fuel, you want full fuel. Does it look full, maybe. Does that mean it’s full, no. Ass a new pilot or someone inexperienced with the plane to the mix and it gets even more difficult.
As a flight school owner, if the policy is top off the tanks after every flight, the policy is top off the tanks after EVERY flight. I can’t tell you how many times someone would go to the plane, see the tanks weren’t topped to their expectations and either call for more fuel and charge to the last pilot (right thing to do) or call me and complain that they got screwed out of $4 worth of gas.
Dude, we get it but you’re a cog in the wheel. You signed up to pump gas into airplanes and you don’t get paid any differently if you pump 0.3 or 300 gallons.
Rainebowraine123@reddit
"Does it look full, maybe. Does that mean it is full, no" is quite silly. If it looks full, it's full. Wanting the fueler to come and pump .3 gallons just to prove its full when it spills out is so wasteful of the fuelers time and makes you look incompetent.
PilotsNPause@reddit
I know not many of my fellow pilots care about this but it's also shitty for the environment to be filling to the very brim and having leaded fuel spill onto the ramp whether it's out of the fuel tank hole or out of the vents once the fuel warms up. It's ridiculous to require full fuel for all flights. Unless you're doing a super long XC it's just lazy and teaches poor airmanship.
PlasticDiscussion590@reddit
Depends on the plane. A cirrus that looks full can often take 2-3 additional gallons. That’s a trivial amount for a cirrus, but if there is a light sport that has similar tank designs (I doubt it, but I haven’t flown every light sport, and neither have you) that can be an hour of fuel.
If the pilot isn’t sure the tank is full and wants to order more fuel, and turns out it was 0.3 away from being full then the pilot just learned something about the plane they’re flying.
Thunderbolt_78@reddit (OP)
I can absolutely see both sides of the argument especially as a student myself.
AntJo4@reddit
I can see both sides of the argument, but as someone who works at a flight school a fuel to full policy makes for a poor student pilot. And yes I understand liability can be an issue in places but our rule is if you can’t fuel it, you can’t fly it. Our students are expected to know how to fill their own aircraft before they are released for their first solo.
PlasticDiscussion590@reddit
If the planes are rented wet, sure. If they’re rented dry then each rented relies on the prior renters to return the plane with some standard amount of fuel.
AntJo4@reddit
Which is why flight schools should use a wet rate for their students. For those on long cross countries a dry rate makes sense - we do that ourselves, but for a student our learning stalls or circuits just charge the wet rate and be done with it.
GuaranteeUnhappy3342@reddit
So you don’t complain if you have to wait thirty or more minutes in your lesson for two gallons of fuel?
PlasticDiscussion590@reddit
Do I care if I have to delay my departure because the fuel truck is busy? It sucks for sure, I’ve been there countless times. But it also sucks to get stuck behind someone driving slow, or stuck at a red light that won’t turn green. This is the world we live in, you can get upset when you’re inconvenienced, that’s your choice.
Am I going to complain because someone else made a decision to order fuel when in hindsight they didn’t need to? Absolutely not. We all make the best decisions we can based on what we know at the time. We rarely make the most optimized decision and that’s ok.
brucebrowde@reddit
That's a lot of crock.
Idk about airplane refueling, there might be good reasons for that, but if someone's driving slow in the left lane of the highway, that's far away from "not making the most optimized decision" - that's being an asshole.
Does it happen? Of course.
Should we not comment on that or talk to our kids or friends to make it clear that's not how you should behave to your fellow humans? Only if you want society like we live in, where everyone is selfishly looking for their own ass only, instead of making things better for everyone.
jimngo@reddit
Implement a minimum charge. Problem will be solved real quick.
savethegame14@reddit
I always feel terrible asking for a top up in my 152 after short flights, that's why I prefer self serve. At the same time. 4-5 gallons is 20% of my tank, and an hour of flight time, and if I plan to depart with full fuel and I'm 3 gallons short, that's a real consideration.
TheFlyingMeerkat@reddit
As someone who recently managed to only put 20 ~~litres~~ euro-units into a C172N before it was spilling over, I can't say that I'm not guilty of this. At least it's a self-service pump so only giving more work to myself (and 5.3USG isn't 0.3 at least).
Tech log said 95 litres in tanks, 1hr45m-2hr15m long flight (mock test hence variation) plus 1hr reserve, on minimum dispatch fuel. Decided to brim it as it would also mean we can avoid refuelling afterwards (leaving a nice 3\~ hours for first flight next day). Didn't dip the tanks as they were going to be full anyway.
click, click...click, click, uh huh...only 20 litres went in. Checks tech log/fuel logs again, does some maths, ah, might be good to remind a certain renter 1USG = 3.785L and 40USG = 150L...
BrilliantDoom@reddit
stop bitching and do you job
FishrNC@reddit
He's doing it and wanting to do it better, AH.
BrilliantDoom@reddit
its his job to pump gas not bitch at people for how much gas they get AH
FishrNC@reddit
And he's pumping as fast as he can and offering a way to speed up service to those who really need it. We need more people with his attitude, not yours.
BrilliantDoom@reddit
lol, thats stupid
SevenBlade@reddit
You're a pretentious child and need to expand your worldview. Go volunteer somewhere - feed the homeless. Get to know them and their stories. They're probably smarter than you.
BrilliantDoom@reddit
is that the best you can do? call me names, lol, you have a problem
IAmTheFlyingIrishMan@reddit
If your FBO has a constant 10+ avgas queue, maybe the owner needs to consider getting a second truck.
SevenBlade@reddit
They're shorthanded. How does one guy run two trucks?
IAmTheFlyingIrishMan@reddit
Give the keys to the pilots who need fuel. But really, just hire another ramp rat, they don't cost that much.
willpc14@reddit
At $20/hr a FT ramp rat is going to cost that business ~$70k a year. PT working 20hrs/week is still probably going to run them ~$30k/yr in taxes, liability insurance, and workman's comp.
InJailForCrimes@reddit
I don't like waiting for fuel OR making other people work harder than they need to. I stand with you, ramp brother.
Interjet256@reddit
I worked line service for a few years and got my rating/licenses. I completely understand both sides of this coin.
OZZMAN8@reddit
I was a line guy and an instructor and I completely agree with OP on this. Not only is it pointless and annoying I believe that it is lazy and teaching poor fuel management. I'd have guys take a few gallons for a top off and go fly for 45 minutes. As a working pilot now I totally get taking more fuel in certain situations but I think what people are doing is topping off so that they never need to think about the fuel. If you can't fly 45 minutes locally without full tanks how will you ever transition to a job where they'll expect you to have enough fuel for the flight + reserves + any justifiable extra but without needlessly cutting into your cargo/passenger load? A new and learning pilot should be able to (or learn to) accurately say how much fuel is onboard and how long that gets them in the air, if it fits their mission, and if it allows for an alternate or not. Filling the tanks every flight never makes it critical to watch how much you're burning and if the flight needs to change accordingly. If you never need to manage a resource you will never learn to.
bhalter80@reddit
I never really learned to manage fuel until I flew a twin both because of the decreased endurance overall and because you have to actively manage fuel and payload unlike in a single.
We should really teach students about the inverse relationship between stall speed and weight so if you are light you get a lower stall speed which means you hit the ground with less energy if you have an off airport landing. The fuel weight is a significant amount in a PA-28
Interjet256@reddit
Well said! Couldn’t agree more!
rapzeh@reddit
They should charge a minimum amount of money, like the cost of 10 gallons.
If 10 or more gallons fit in, there no extra cost, you pay for the gas.
If it's under 10 gallons, the gap to 10 is wasted money that goes to the FBO as an extra service fee.
minfremi@reddit
I was at one time in my life at a busy FBO that had a contract with a busy flight school I used to fly out of. I knew which ones were top off vs tabs by heart. I’d just take a mental note of which planes came in and just do the fueling. Sometimes I’d be ready even before the pilot calls for fuel. That way I just save time.
TransientVoltage409@reddit
Our FBO instituted a minimum 8-gallon charge for truck service, which fixed the problem for them, and promoted an important new learning topic for students. IMO self-service fueling should definitely be part of the PPL program, but rarely is.
milnerq@reddit
Unfortunately some flight schools particularly 141 schools require the students to top up and every stop. It’s stupid, I know.
jet-setting@reddit
Have you contacted the flight school?
Thunderbolt_78@reddit (OP)
One of the owners is actually aware that instructions are doing this and he isn’t a fan of it. He got a charge on his card for 60 cents and it was for a 0.1 gallon fueling lol.
arcticslush@reddit
Cost structure should be flat fee + $/gal and this lazy practice will vanish instantly eh
No-Relationship-2169@reddit
New Rotax 0.912, amazingly efficient
AutomaticAd5430@reddit
I get Mogas for my Rotax 912. Mogas is the preferred fuel for Rotax 912.
No-Relationship-2169@reddit
The 0.912 is different (and totally not fictional) I promise. It uses AV Gas
Lord_Giles@reddit
I installed one on my weed eater and fuel it with sumped gas. Very reliable and fuel efficient. Best $40k weed eater upgrade available. Fuel savings will pay for the upgrade in only 100,000 years!
gimp2x@reddit
Have your FBO manager alter the fee structure to charge a minimum "uplift" charge, which is independent of the gallons, and then is waived above a certain amount of gallons- this will solve it, and is common to observe around flight school FBO's, especially those that do dry leasing
CluelessPilot1971@reddit
If your FBO instituted (say) a $20 gallon minimum on fuelings, he'd like it even less.
Face88888888@reddit
I haven’t flown GA in a very very long time, and I have never worked at an FBO, so somebody tell me if this wouldn’t work.
Could this be fixed by your FBO charging a flat rate for the full service? Charge $5 or $10 just to pull the truck up and get the ladder out, then charge 5 or 10 cents less per gallon.
This way the customers who only take a small amount of fuel still have to pay for your time, but everyone else breaks about even.
FarNefariousness4371@reddit
Min fuel purchases, most GA burn at least 5gph. Min charge 5gals, anything over is per gallon. It would only screw the guys going on max range XCs. Everyone else can fly unchanged with 5gal missing
EnthusiasmHuman6413@reddit
I mean…. I here you and it’s frustrating. Sometimes though… if you’re in a real shitbox. The analog gauges are all over the place and we really have no idea how much gas is in the wing. I’ll fire up the master and see 3/4 full tanks hop up to the top and you know… they look and feel prettty full but not full..But I want my gauges and tanks to look and feel the same. I’m never doing it because I’m too lazy to check. I’m doing it because I don’t mess around when it comes to fuel. But I’m apologizing to the line worker when he comes out… and if I’m the line worker I’m filling that tank up until it’s pouring out of the air vent. Just kidding relax guys relax.
Kevincav@reddit
I may have done the flip side of that once. Didn't know I could just ask for a top off, so I spent a little too much time trying to calculate how much fuel was needed to top it off.
Purple_Willow_3432@reddit
Pro tip, students: visually check the fuel first. If you need fuel, call it in. Then start your preflight, get ready, preflight briefing with instructor, ... Whatever else you are doing before climbing in the plane with the intent to crank it up. Do all that and by the time you do, you'll have fuel. But you gotta visually check.
Mea culpa: This tip sucks for the DA40.... That thing can look dry and then it takes 2gal a side. Sorry fuel guys.
AtmosphereMiddle1682@reddit
Yeah this is how my school does things. Calling for fuel without checking is unheard of to me.
jayreggy@reddit
My local FBO instituted a minimum charge of 5 gallons, seemed to solve the problem
spacecadet2399@reddit
I taught my students to check the gas as part of their initial walkaround (and it was in my flight school's checklist) and call for it if we needed it. If the plane wasn't there until it was actually our flight time - which started happening more and more as I was instructing and the school tried to maximize utilization - then we'd wait and check it together as we went out for the flight.
I don't really understand not doing this. At my flight school, it was policy for expediency of launching like an aircraft carrier that all single-engine aircraft would be topped off after every flight (and this did make it difficult sometimes if we wanted less than that; we'd have to get a plane that was just coming back and hadn't gotten fuel yet). But we still always checked. Sometimes it hadn't been done and we'd have to call. Sometimes it had been done and then we obviously would not call. It makes no sense to me to just always call for fuel before anyone even looks.
AtmosphereMiddle1682@reddit
Stop fueling so quickly. Problem solved!
vagasportauthority@reddit
I always check the fuel prior to asking for fuel… that seems logical.
FishrNC@reddit
Ask your employer to talk to the flight schools and point out the limited capacity for refueling and how unnecessary fuel calls delay flight operations. The school should solve the issue internally. It's in their best interests to minimize utilization delays.
Your concern for customer delay is admirable, but if you are working at max efficiency and there are still delays, it's not your problem to solve beyond making suggestions to your employer.
icancounttopotatos@reddit
Time to implement a 5 gallon minimum purchase and the flight school owner would crack down on that overnight.
tehmightyengineer@reddit
Yeah, some instructors at our club were doing that and the airport put in a $15 minimum charge unless you got 10 gallons. 5 gallons would have been much better, darn C152 barely holds 10 gallons, but it definitely stopped the 1 gallon fill-ups.
Tall_Sherbert7375@reddit
CFIs are asking for fuel and they don’t even know what fuel is onboard the plane?
Your example of 0.1 gallons of fuel… there’s no way a fuel gauge would even read this accurately in a GA flight school plane. It seems like students and CFIs aren’t even pre flighting…
AWACS_Bandog@reddit
First time?
cant tell you how many times a week I'd get called out to airplanes that
Already had fuel
weren't even on the ramp
Weren't even real (This happened a few times, we'd check the N-Number given against the registry and got 'Aircraft deregistered')
Very clearly in the MX Hangar across the way in multiple pieces.
and in one circumstance, Crashed
littlelowcougar@reddit
I had to call for like 1.5 gallons on my PPL check ride in order to be within CG/W&B limits + sufficient reserves. Had a large DPE and it was a C150.
Rubes2525@reddit
I will say, I hate Cessnas and checking fuel is a huge part of it. My flight school has 5 Cessnas each with different fuel tank sizes! And you can't even buy the correct fuel gauge dip stick for most of them. Seeing how much fuel they have is more of a vibe check than anything. Better to just top it off with fuel you may not need.
At least with Pipers, you can look directly down the tank and make an educated guess based on the tabs, and they all have standard fuel tank sizes. You can also just run it off of the full tank if the previous guy forgot to balance it. Pipers just gives you more confidence in your fuel status during preflight.
Ropural@reddit
Wow are you me? This is literally the story of my life and i’ve went to three of the flight schools on my field to tell them to stop doing this.
LoungeFlyZ@reddit
Charge a $20 min. That’ll fix it real quick.
Redfish680@reddit
FBO should be charging an annoyance fee for this.
HLSparta@reddit
I work at an FBO and the flight school on the field does this as well. My favorite is when I arrive at a plane 30 minutes after they call for fuel and the student is waiting for me to add 3 gallons to the 50 already in the 172 so they can solo in the pattern for an hour.
fly123123123@reddit
Several FBOs I’ve visited require a minimum amount of fuel or they’ll charge a fee for this exact reason. 10 gal minimum, or a service fee applies.
Curious-Owl6098@reddit
I’m a line guy too and I have to deal with this constantly with the flight school tenants at the FBO. I’ve even had instructors go ask me to check their planes if they need fuel before the students got there…. I thought to myself (“im not flying the plane, isn’t that the pilots job?”) to their defense though like a lot of rules in aviation… these policies get implemented because some students have made a big mistake somewhere regarding fuel (aka they ran out of fuel during the flight). It is what it is… if you want a gallon of gas then fine. Gives me something to do so the managers don’t get on me lol
mass_marauder@reddit
Used to work for the FBO that serviced the Riddle fleet while I was trying to find a CFI job. I guess they had to be at the tabs at least for every flight and I’d get calls all the time where I’d rock the wing a little and the gas would hit the tabs. I’d put like .2 gallons in the plane and the students were oblivious.
aftcg@reddit
Tell your boss to charge a $30 minimum unless the fuel charge is the same. Worked as a line boy in the olden days. Problem solved for us in like a week.
somewhat_moist@reddit
$30 is about half of my main tank in my J3 Cub haha. Aka an hour of flying. Maybe have a rule where the rule doesn’t apply if the pilot has to hand prop the plane
(Just messing this should absolutely be a rule for fuel)
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
To be fair, some of these people don't have a choice. You're expected to return the aircraft full of fuel. If you short change the next guy, then you're going to piss him off and probably get billed for it anyway. And maybe even pay a penalty to the school/club for violating policy.
jet-setting@reddit
Usually, but that’s not always the case. It really depends on the school.
Where I’m at, we don’t require the planes to be full after use. We charge a wet rate so the fuel used during the flight doesn’t need to be known for billing. It also helps renters who may want to take passengers and always full tanks will limit that significantly. Here, the pilot taking the plane out calls (or goes to self serve) if they need/want more fuel.
BagOfMoneyNoChange@reddit
True, which is why my entire comment was preface with some of these people...
jet-setting@reddit
I read that as some of them want the extra .5 gallon, and the rest are required to anyway since your next line says you’re expected to do so as a general fact. Anyway, others may have read it that way too which is why I just added the clarification.
CharlieMBTA@reddit
When I was a student, the school had a policy that all student cross country solos must top off the plane, regardless of fuel needed for the flight.
There was a time or two where it was a gallon or so shy of being full, and I just called it full because I didnt want to call over the fucking truck just to put in a gallon or less.
thegolfpilot@reddit
$20 call out waived with $20 of fuel fixes this
theinspireddesigner@reddit
Ill bet they're calling you to top it off because they dont want to climb up and check it.
air_refresher737@reddit
Idk at my school it takes 20 minutes sometimes to get fuel so if I'm going on a xc I'm just going to tell them ( I'm also a refueler) because I'm not waiting for 5 people to have called and now I'm number 10 for fuel :/
Straight-Dot-6264@reddit
homer slowly backing into the bushes
TripNo1876@reddit
I don't understand topping the aircraft off after each flight. I'm a heavy guy and if I want to be in the utility category I can't have full gas. Not to mention if I want to take a couple friends and baggage. I'd rather have minimum gas and pay for the fuel I need for the flight before hand.
sjk123@reddit
I’ve done fueling before. I agree it is a pain. ultimately if the PIC wants the gas, they get the gas. I don’t fly small planes anymore, but In general it can be very difficult to tell exactly how much is in the tanks. Gauges are unreliable and good luck with a visual check. Without some kind of measuring device, it’s hard to know
Joker328@reddit
Agree the gauges are unreliable for this purpose, but if the tanks only take 0.3 gallons, you didn't even pop the cap to look, which I assume is often the case (calling before they even get out to the plane to minimize wait time).
ThatsSomeIsh@reddit
I’m pretty sure you can eyeball that 0.3 gallons is visibly full
Cparker_11@reddit
Fuel is expensive, and the person who inherits plane after you will get mad if you don’t top off the plane completely. And then they may make you pay for it and even report you to the flight school/club. Ive been an FBO worker before so I understand you, but there are two sides to this. Either be an inconvenience to the fbo guy, or risk being reported
__joel_t@reddit
I've not had that problem when the rental is a wet rate.
flyghu@reddit
All you fancy pants getting fuel trucks. It's self serve or nothing where I fly.
OrionX3@reddit
I've been on both sides and I understand where you're coming from. The flight school I instructed at preferred us not to call for fuel unless you needed it or you were doing a cross country. AKA if you've got 3 hours of fuel in a 172 and you're doing patternwork you don't need to get it topped off. Essentially they told us as long as you're getting 10+ gallons it's fine, but the FBO didn't want us calling for less than 10 gallons unless it was a cross country and we needed it.
EliteEthos@reddit
They are paying you for your service, right? Why does it matter how much is pumped? This is your job.
Being understaffed isn’t the problem of the person requesting fuel and it shouldn’t be on that person to stop requesting your services to make your life easier.
EliteEthos@reddit
It’s wild this is getting downvoted.
Maybe OP can tell us what airport he works and what is minimum requirement for pumping fuel is. 5 gallons might Mena something to a small airplane… but better not ask this guy for it.
Ok_Witness179@reddit
Might be worth bringing it up to your boss to discuss with the school. They probably have a policy about how each aircraft must be full before each flight, so they just call on the assumption that it's needed due to a previous flight.
They need to end that policy. It makes students and instructors lazy about fuel planning, complacent about fuel management, negatively impacts aircraft performance due to extra weight, and wastes a lot of time waiting on fuel that's not needed.
Important_Repeat_806@reddit
Quit crying and put the fries in the bag
hoosier_cub_driver@reddit
Hey guys, we found the retard!
Rictor_Scale@reddit
On the flip side please don't 1) leave your club plane half empty and 2) fail to top off the oil in pre-flight so it's two quarts low for the next guy ... especially when it's a very long walk back to the FBO.
shadowalker125@reddit
Sometimes it’s not that simple, for example, my flight school requires full tanks on the smaller plans because they carry so little gas to begin with. So even if I only need 5 gallons, I’m still going to ask for it because it’s required by our FOM.
I do understand the frustration though. If it’s less than a gallon I’m probably not calling, that’s not noticeable.
brianbrush@reddit
2 comments showing the duality of man haha
Patient_Honey5483@reddit
I must admit that I have been that guy. Sorry, man. We can do better. Thanks for all you do!
rFlyingTower@reddit
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
I work at an FBO that services two flight schools. One of my job responsibilities includes performing Avgas fuelings for their aircraft. On nicer days, the flight schools are obviously in full swing and calling for fuel every few minutes. A pattern I am noticing is that some of these instructors will clearly not check their fuel before calling for top offs. I literally had a fueling where I put 0.3 gallons back in. The Pipers aren’t so bad, but it’s annoying when the Cessnas do this since you have to get the ladder to reach the caps, all of which takes time as more fuelings pile up.
We are understaffed, so there is only one person on Avgas during a shift. When there’s only one truck going around and there are 10+ aircraft in the queue, it piles up and gets tedious to waste time putting only a gallon back in to top them off when the next guy takes 15-20+ gallons and obviously needs it more.
The moral of the story is to please check your remaining fuel before calling for a top off.
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