AMD to bring back Ryzen 7 5800X3D as AM4 10th Anniversary Edition
Posted by iDontSeedMyTorrents@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 395 comments
Posted by iDontSeedMyTorrents@reddit | hardware | View on Reddit | 395 comments
iate5trains@reddit
is it worth it if I buy a 5700x3d now rather than waiting for the potentially higher price of the 5800x3d anniversary edition when it releases?
LUZIVERT1998@reddit
thats what im sayin bruh i really need that extra L3 cache, but want the most clocks via 5800x3d
PM_ME_YOUR_BOEING777@reddit
still think this should be called 5810X3D for 10th anniversary... and an extra 100MHz wouldn't hurt, ya know
Illustrious-End3080@reddit
cmon AMD hurry the eff up...
FdPros@reddit
sounds expensive if they're branding it as a 'anniversary edition'
kikimaru024@reddit
5800X3D had a launch MSRP of US$450.
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
Okay? You can get the 9800x3D for that price now. AMD has to accept less margin for this product now, as compared to when it was released, or its going to be a poor value.
I'm not necessarily expecting them to do that, but that's why the hypothetical 5800x3D rerelease has never made any sense to me.
_FUCKTHENAZIADMINS_@reddit
Used 5800X3Ds are going for $450-500 depending on where you look, a new one at $450 is already a better value than that which is the only thing it’s actually competing against.
Flowerbridge@reddit
If people live in the USA with access to a microcenter, they can get a 7600x3d for $350 USD or 7500x3d for $300 USD that includes motherboard and 16GB DDR 6000 RAM.
In over 90% of situations, the AM5 cpu/platform is going to be better (but not 100% of the time, according to this very recent youtube video i watched where a guy ran literally every single X3D chip ever made through tests).
Paying $400 or even $300 (imo) for a 5800x3d is nuts.
ZekeSulastin@reddit
Another commenter on this post spent $500 on a 5800X3D; at that point there's a great argument for spending a bit more and going for the $600 7800X3D or $700 9850X3D + 32 GB bundles, even if you have to add $100 or w/e to account for mileage, and selling your AM4 components.
Flowerbridge@reddit
Paying $500 for a 5800x3d in 2026 means you're either an idiot or they unfortunately live in the middle of nowhere, hours and hours away from the nearest microcenter.
For anyone reading this thread looking to upgrade or build a new gaming computer, depending on your usage, the $600 7800x3d, $680 9800x3d, or $700 9850x3d bundles is the way to go, and those bundles also give you 32GB of ddr-6000 ram, where as the budget cpu bundles (7500x3d and 7600x3d) only give you 16gb of ram.
The 9850x3d is generally not worth the extra price retail, but at microcenter, its literally only $20 +tax more than the 9800x3d bundle.
Green_Chemist7542@reddit
"unfortunately live in the middle of nowhere, hours and hours away from the nearest microcenter."
This.
fsxfan@reddit
Or you live outside the US where there are no value AM5 bundles to be had at all! My only options at the moment to upgrade from my 5600x is a preowned 5700x3d for about €330. AM5 x3d CPUs are available at a reasonable price, but nobody is bundling the RAM and motherboard because they can sell the RAM separately at higher prices. Really hoping this is a global launch and not limited to specific markets.
Green_Chemist7542@reddit
A LOT of people do not have a Micro Center anywhere near them. Such as myself. And I already have a nice AM4 system and am on a fixed income. It would take quite awhile to save up the money to buy the board,ram,and cpu, needed to make the move to AM5. And then I'd also have to go through the hassle of tearing down my whole system to rebuild.
I don't play a lot of hugely demanding games. I'm not a "power user", or a super serious gamer.
I would, however, like to upgrade my 5600x. If I could just do a quick CPU upgrade to the 5800x3D for 300-400 dollars, I'd be perfectly happy with that. And I'd probably use my current setup for another 5 or 6 years. If I live that long.
Frosty-Cut7167@reddit
I got a new OEM 7800X3D for $220 in the Aliexpress sale with a coupon, no box but works perfectly, sold my 5700X3D for $330 and mobo for $100 + 64GB DDR4 for $300. paid $550 for used 64GB DDR5 CL26 + new B850M for $220. So the upgrade was 250 to get future proofed. hopefully zen 7 is AM5. But the 7800X3D should last me a while, then buy a used zen 6 or zen 7 in 5 years or so.
Interdimension@reddit
This is what I've been telling everyone. The 7600X3D outperforms the 5800X3D in most gaming scenarios (if not all). If you're not coming from a system with 48GB+ of RAM and don't absolutely need that amount of RAM for your new build... just go with the MC bundles.
Paying this much for a 5800X3D makes zero sense if you're just on 16GB or 32GB of RAM already.
Protoclown98@reddit
I thought of doing this but it would be tough for me to go down to 16gb of ram after having 32gb for so long.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
But now you also pay for DDR5. A lot of users have an AM4 socket and DDR4 ready to drop this into, so I anticipate some level of demand for it. I don't think $450 is reasonable but I would be surprised if it went for under $300.
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
I'm not concerned about the value next to buying a current gen platform, but I am when compared to the value of "doing nothing." You can put that money in the bank and be well on the way to buying a next gen system, and you'll have to upgrade from those way later than you will from this. I could get behind 200 dollar 5700x3D's coming back, but (IMO) you can't get much more expensive than that before "doing nothing" becomes a more sensible option.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
I agree with you that it doesn't likely make sense for most people.
But most people aren't great at cost/benefit analysis, and so if they see a not-too-expensive upgrade in a world where DDR5 might be overpriced for the next 18 months, they'll be awfully tempted to pick up the "best-in-slot AM4" CPU.
Green_Chemist7542@reddit
Exactly this. I already have a nice system. If I can upgrade my 5600x to the 5800x3D, I'll probably game on my current system for years to come. I've got plenty of ram, and 5070ti. I'm perfectly happy with that.
Green_Chemist7542@reddit
Sure.. if you're someone that doesn't mind waiting for many months, or years, trying to save up the money for a whole new mobo, ram, cpu. And then also don't mind tearing down your current AM4 system to rebuild. As opposed to just buying the 5800x3D, and be able to just drop it right into your current system.
No downtime. No waiting. For someone on a tight budget, or a fixed income, that would be much easier and much more cost effective.
neo6289@reddit
I agree... but I have this 32gb kit of ddr4 3600 just sitting here looking at me
OkDrawing8159@reddit
not just doing nothing...as ive done in the past vs upgrading....a sytem entirely....it doesnt hurt to spend that instead on a GPU....and set your sights towards higher resolution/pve titles.....Dont need much of a BEAST cpu or platform....if you have a decent GPU and want to game on 4k or even 4k DLDSR with a 70 series card as an ex....ATP id still consider being better off adding a 4k 42" or 27-32" oled if not a 21:9 to the setup....and being an ENJOYER until its time to upgrade...Plenty of goated/older titles to experience again at oled fidelity or DLDSR ai super sampling which AMD has still yet to offer for multiple generations.
Im on my 5900x and upgraded from a 3070 to a 4070ti...bc i can still run witcher 3 cranked up with 4k dldsr on my LG 1440p nano....and equally fun seeing games like hunter call of the wild with that ai super sampling enabled. ATP the only actual games that make me "wish" i had x3d is tarkov and cs2....even then my monitor is 165hz an exorbidant amount of FPS is still going to be tear city when peeking or getting peeked on and aim adjusting....and well suboptimal fps in tarkov means im within g-sync/freesync range which actually looks entirely more uniform than having 500-600+ fps in cs2....ironic ppl think they need a 480$ cpu to pair with a used 300$ gpu just to play a free game....as if older hardware/cpu arent capable of high fps yields at lower res/competitive settings. A lot of ppl that fall for marketing/gimmicks while they research where to properly place their income towards an outcome they desire.
180+ fps in FH4 4k dldsr idk to me that just makes much more sense esp when i got the game as it was being de-listed from steam for like 6$ to me this is where its at.
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
I 100% agree with your sentiment. Assuming your PC is capable, switching to a higher resolution or buying a new monitor is an easy button to press to delay a platform upgrade. OLED monitors are so cheap now too, and that'll have a bigger visual quality upgrade than literally anything else you could possibly buy for your PC (unless you're upgrading from iGPU tier hardware).
OkDrawing8159@reddit
imo it just goes hand in hand with consumer sentiment of polished turd UE5 AAA production cycle...if those ppl are truly intent on staying true to their mentality....best thing they can do for themselves is get an oled tv or a 21:9 oled 34"(which can still access DLDSR supersampling if a gpu upgrade serves well enough)....and enjoy their libraries or again GOATED titles of high regard. I still have a lot of fun jumping into a nioh co-op, witcher 3 and forza horizon 4.
Green_Chemist7542@reddit
I agree. I'm still on AM4. I'm sure there are many people in my position that have a nice AM4 setup, and can't afford to build an entirely new AM5 system.
I've got 32gb of DDR4 and a 5070ti.
I'd love to be able to upgrade my 5600x to a 5800x3D.
That sort of upgrade would make perfect sense for me. and be much more cost effective.
bombaygypsy@reddit
250USD is the max I would pay, anything more and I would rather wait for Am6.
ncaldera0491@reddit
Yeah, anything over 250 wouldnt be worth it as long as my 3600 draws breath.
ClickClick_Boom@reddit
It's crazy because looking at eBay sold listings 5800X3Ds are selling for $400-$450 on average right now. Going by that, $450 isn't reasonable but people would pay it.
RHINO_Mk_II@reddit
Presumably because it's been out of production and buyers only expect used prices to get worse. Once production restarts, supply will drop the price.
ClickClick_Boom@reddit
That logic doesn't always apply in current year.
gabeandjanet@reddit
A 9800x3d is also a MUCH faster cpu and ddr5 alone gives significantly better performance in games.
I used to have a 5800x3d with ddr4 and while it was a dapper little cpu that was excellent in st limited games compared to other cpus of its time, it was also still very limited in rt heavy games.
Going to a 7800x3d and ddr 5 gave me far better performance in cyberpunk and other rt heavy games, and in general it was almost a 40 percent upgrade in perfomance.
A 9800 x3d is another 15 percent faster.
So yeah its a neat upgrade for am4 people who are still stuck on a 3600x or something, but the price has to be low enougu because there is no comparison to a more modern cpu with ddr5
Green_Chemist7542@reddit
It would be worth it for someone like me, that is still on the AM4 platform. I have a pretty decent system, but I would like to make the move to AM5, but I just can't afford a new mobo, RAM, and a CPU. So being able to just upgrade the CPU on it's own, would be awesome for me.
If you're curious, my current setup is:
Corsair FRAME 4000D RS ARGB
MAG B550 Tomahawk
Ryzen 5 5600x
32gb DDR4 (3600)
2x 2tb M.2 NVMe
Corsair RM850x
Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 5070ti
Upgrading my 5600x to a 5800x3D would be a great upgrade for me, I think.
ThankGodImBipolar@reddit
I'm also using a 5600x (with 64GB of RAM) and I really don't think it'd be worth it for me. The money will go way farther if I sit on it, keep contributing slowly to it over time, and buy next gen. Next gen CPUs are expected to make up for the disappointing gains we got with the current generation, and next gen consoles will use them (making it a new performance baseline). I don't think anybody is going to look very bright for moving from Zen 3 to Zen 3 x3D for 300-500 dollars in a year or two.
Protoclown98@reddit
Its not even less margin because I'm sure the cost to produce goes down. Usually R&D is the most amount of money to develop these things and that is a sunk cost for them.
kikimaru024@reddit
The last time AMD did an "Anniversary Edition", they simply relaunched the 2700X at the original $329 MSRP despite the original model being cheaper at retail.
Merrick222@reddit
Got mine at Microcenter in a bundle for $330, came with a $150 Mobo and 16GB DDR4 Ram.
I sold the CPU/Mobo/Ram a year later for $375/$110/$50 on eBay, and I upgraded to 9800X3D for $460/$180/$85 (DDR5 32GB Kit).
Cost me $207+Tax to move to AM5, was quite the deal.
bizude@reddit
The last time they did this, they sold a bunch of 2700x CPUs as "anniversary edition" - one month before announcing Ryzen 3000.
zippolover-1960s-v2@reddit
They are on AM5 though. Less likely for them to announce a new flagship for the AM4 socket and even so 5800x3d will hold up for quite some time
Kalrot__@reddit
Its going to be lol. Sadly, at this point its only worth it if you already have an AM4 plataform, because apart from that, it isnt.
AM5 already surpasses it, Intel i5 13th gen and upwards are pretty much equal (and cheaper). For the price its going to have, better get an AM5 build all together (or Intel and DDR4 board).
GraXXoR@reddit
I can’t afford the DDR5 RAM. End of story.
stmiyahki@reddit
9800x3d is cheaper than a 32gb DDR5 kit lol. I drsperately need a 5000 series X3D chip
GraXXoR@reddit
I have the 5900X already so getting a 5800X3D to replace it doesn't feel fiscally sensible in the current climate. LOL.
stmiyahki@reddit
Yeah I get you, I have 5700x and that is enough but, wish I had that cache.
OkDrawing8159@reddit
same sold a parted out itx build and added the 32gb kit to my main rig since theyre the same model/timings etc...now i see EFT eat it right up to 33+ and hardily have any hiccups in game and doubt i ever will until i step up to a 2nm chip with stacked cache when its more of a mainstream concept.
schu2470@reddit
Isn't DDR4 pretty expensive too? Last I looked a month or two ago it was only like 20% cheaper than DDR5.
GraXXoR@reddit
Why would I buy more? I have 128 GB of the stuff I bought when it was cheap.
schu2470@reddit
Well there ya go. No idea what your initial comment added to the conversation.
GraXXoR@reddit
Really? you don’t understand?
Mechatronis@reddit
We already own ddr4
Confident-Deal-912@reddit
But at what point are the gains on am5 actualy noticeable. Not everyone as able to afford top of the line GPU's, i use a 2080 with a 5090x and it works amazingly
Kalrot__@reddit
If you play at 1080p,the difference will be noticeable. If not, then merely some extra FPS (minus ON CPU bound games, wich the difference will be big, but not many are like that).
Confident-Deal-912@reddit
I was being more rhetorical as I play CPU bound games (msfs DCS and X-Plane) but I don't actualy have a bottleneck on the CPU, far from it I haven't found a game at 1440p that the 5950x can not run smoothly my point being that am5 is good but the gains aren't as extreme in real use cases
capybooya@reddit
Lots of people are desperate, and I've seen the recommendations change in various hardware circles after the cost crisis started. AM4 for new builders is much more frequently recommended now, and the performance is somewhat exaggerated. This is my impression, so YMMV. But I am worried about people thinking that a platform whose last product with a new architecture dates to 2021 is now suddenly good enough when it wasn't 8 months ago. Don't get me wrong, for some it might be good enough, and it all depends on price compared to other platforms and newer architectures, but if you're desperate to buy ASAP as prices are skyrocketing you might end up getting something that won't live up to your expectations.
Curious-Bother3530@reddit
If you live near a microcenter they are selling am5 bundles with a 7500x3d, 1 stick of ddr5 16gb ram and a mobo for $299, probably the most solid deal you can get to make the jump to am5. How much would a performance hit be for single channel though?
R_Levis@reddit
Not your fault, but as someone from the 80% of America not within even an hour drive of a microcenter I want to smash things every time someone recommends a microcenter deal.
wehooper4@reddit
Bro, 45% of the US population is within a hour’s drive of a Microcenter.
Remember land doesn’t vote.
Huge_Ad_2224@reddit
Bro, \~95% of earth population does not live in the U.S.
wehooper4@reddit
A) that’s a them problem B) why are they on his sub then?
azxsedrcfvgb@reddit
is the internet for americans only?
Broad_Lynx5702@reddit
I don't think this sub say "American only".
R_Levis@reddit
1 That's still less than half, 2 we still live here.
wehooper4@reddit
Your choice to live where you do is objectively wrong 😝
R_Levis@reddit
Fine keep your microcenter for your 2 hardware purchases a year. Better not hear you whining about housing prices or cost of living.
schu2470@reddit
Seriously. How often are these people buying hardware where living near a Microcenter is an actual flex or determining factor? If I lived near one I'd go a couple of times and then the novelty would wear off and I probably wouldn't go again for a few years until I actually needed something.
wehooper4@reddit
The flex is living in an economically active part of the county. Microcenter just comes along for the ride.
SunfireGaren@reddit
Yeah, but it's not anywhere close to 80%
R_Levis@reddit
No it's is because I was not the one arguing about population. Even if a smaller percentage of people live there people still do actually live there.
SunfireGaren@reddit
But then you can't say 80% of America. If 90% of the population of the US condensed into Los Angeles, but 10% lived over in bumfuck Nebraska, you wouldn't say 99% of America doesn't live near Los Angeles.
R_Levis@reddit
Uh no, I absolutely can because again I'm talking about the physical landmass of America. I would absolutely say that
Fragrant_Law_3704@reddit
I feel the same way living 45 minutes away from microcenter, it's not a quick trip, have to drive there, find the store(or use gps) find parking, spend 20-30 minutes navigating an unfamiliar store(if I'm already there I'm going to look for other deals), checkout and find the vehicle in unfamiliar parking lot, drive home. By the time it's all done it's been 2 hours
Own-Operation6996@reddit
I mean maybe u could at least appreciate living in the usa? Like what about people like me, living in Europe? I'd even walk miles on foot just to be able to go to a microcenter.
And I'm not hating but just trying to spread the quote 'there is always someone with less than you'...
R_Levis@reddit
I wish I was that lucky lol. It's an 8+ hour round trip for me.
Windowsrookie@reddit
You are being a bit overly dramatic. They will have the bundle in stock because you order the bundle for pickup from their website, and they send you an email when it's ready to be picked up.
When you arrive you go to the pickup counter, no big deal.
Own-Operation6996@reddit
Also not your fault, but as someone who lives in Europe I also get crazy knowing I can't ever visit anything like microcenter, new egg etc..
OkDrawing8159@reddit
depends on the genre/title api and engine....at times its minimal....others youll see spikes and a general bottleneck if youre pushing a 500$+ range gpu. I wouldnt consider single channel for cs2 or tarkov myself...but i would justify paying another 100$ to have 32gb...ATP its stilll equally important to have tightest timings per $$$ justififed what with fabric/divider limitations....IJS tuned/tight timing ram and "quad rank" as in duel channel duel rank memory....being equally a sweet spot for ryzen/architecture over these past years. Then again if the rig is primarily for 90% use gaming.... and youre upgrading from a much OLDER/slower bloated platform and the ram usage of win11...on an older chipset combo etc....then i wouldnt really claim tight timings/faster die quality ram.....is remotely necessary as it would go un-noticed....but entirely more ideal when upgrading gpu to a 500$+ hitter where youre getting the most performance per $ out of your gpu.
WantsLivingCoffee@reddit
I live in Hawaii. You mainlanders are so spoiled. Cheap houses, cheap e-bikes, and microcenters
AndreiStanciu19@reddit
in europe we don't have microcenter🥲
jenkins_009@reddit
I’m not 100% sure, but many (if not all) individual DDR5 ram sticks actually run as dual-channel. Unlike DDR4. Although that may be only fit the higher capacity sticks.
Kat-but-SFW@reddit
DDR5 still has a single 64-bit channel per dimm, but each channel has two independently controlled 32-bit subchannels. This allow it to refresh only half the dimm instead of the whole thing, so it can keep using half the dimm during the refresh instead of none of it like DDR4.
Jon_TWR@reddit
I got a 5700x3d in late 2024 as a drop in upgrade to my AM4 build because it was cheap on Ali Express…I can live without an upgrade until prices calm down, lol.
beatool@reddit
I got one. I super regret not buying one for my kid on a 5500. The 5700X3D is fantastic. I originally got an AM5 system with a 7700X but I was way too early on that platform and it was buggy as hell. I sold it off and went AM4. In games it is as good or better. In synthetic brute force computing it would lose but that's not something I ever do.
If the anniversary edition is affordable, I'm 100% getting one.
Unless you have a 5090 or are I compiling code all day, anything better is really for show.
Jon_TWR@reddit
I think there are 5500x3d CPUs available on aliexpress, more expensive than the 5700x3d was at its lowest, but still a significant upgrade over the 5500.
Zlutz@reddit
Balls on this guy...
...buyin' processors AliExpress!
Damn, it was only $130? Damn... I would have also risked it! :D
I have 5800X (there was no X3D when I bought it), and I was contemplating upgrading to 5800X3D, but it's a lot of money for not much gains.
I did buy 32 gigs of ram when it was cheap though, that counts for something, right?
Viole123EUW@reddit
I went from a 5800x to a 5700x3d because of hard CPU bottleneck in dragons dogma 2 and fps didn't rly increase but my 1%lows improved and it didn't stutter anymore. And also bought it from AliExpress for 130 so my gf is using that 5800x now
dsmithpdx@reddit
I am also running a 5800x currently. I'll probably wait and see what the pricing looks like on the 5800x3d re-release, but if it's out of control I might also pick up a 5700x3d.
Viole123EUW@reddit
Since it's an anniversary edition high chance it's 300 or so like the original release or slightly higher since again anniversary edition insignia on the chip.
cuckcrab@reddit
Brother you ain't getting a 5700x3d lmao. The prices of those have been increased 300% if not more, and that's for used btw. not even close to worth the price.
dsmithpdx@reddit
I guess I thought the people above got a 5700x3d RECENTLY from Ali Express for cheap. Oops...
Vince789@reddit
The 5700X3D for ~$130 from AliExpress will go down as one of the best tech deals of the decade
Master_Employee1883@reddit
i need the link sir please
y_zass@reddit
Yes! The price crashed hard for some reason. When I bought mine it was $100 cheaper than the 5800X3D. I couldn't justify paying 50% more $ for 10% more performance. 4.0ghz is good enough for me. That extra 400mhz would be nice though, I'll have to see what the 5700X3D is going for on eBay when that 10th anniversary drops. Why not right? Who knows, may break even if you are quick enough. Have the listing ready and the moment you secure that preorder list it.
schu2470@reddit
That's what my wife's machine is running and it's fantastic. People on these subreddits live in a bubble where 5% faster makes some kind of a difference. Nothing wrong with AM4 and DDR4.
y_zass@reddit
It's actually more like 40% faster if we're talking 9800X3D due to architecture improvements and DDR5 and whatnot but even so, AM4 is still perfectly capable. I'm running my 5700X3D/B550/DDR4 3800/7900XT build until AM6 (hopefully). Think of the performance improvement then, skipping DDR5 entirely.
schu2470@reddit
Well, that’s also a $500 processor plus a new motherboard plus new RAM. Also, the majority of users are GPU bound so outside of rich enthusiast communities it’s going to be negligible. Even my 7800x3d (before I sold it) was negligible over a 5700x3d when paired with a 7900xt and 32gb of ram at 3440x1440.
Jon_TWR@reddit
At this point I'm not upgrading until AM6, lol.
y_zass@reddit
Same here!
insidious_thinker@reddit
I built a new AM4 pc in march of 2026 only because I suddenly had space for a desktop for the first time in 5 years, and my old setup was still AM3 Going from the FX-8350 to a 5500X3D blew my mind. By the time I build again we might be on AM6 so I didn't mind investing in a dead platform when the market forced me that way.
yourwhiteshadow@reddit
It's all about application too. If I'm playing CSGO or terraria I don't think it matters if I'm running a 5800x3d or a 7800x3d. Also depends on the GPU you're matching it up with. You're not buying a 5090 and pairing it with a 5800x3d. PC building is too granular for blanket statements.
neo6289@reddit
But I have 32gb dd4 3600 just sitting here.....
Merrick222@reddit
5800X3D second hand have sold as high as $800 USD....
They could charge $400 USD and people would pay it to avoid the RAM costs alone.
Michal_il@reddit
With current ram prices, going 5800x3d + 9070 or 9070xt is the most cost effective upgrade you can get
fgambler@reddit
I have a AM4 with 5600X for the past 5 years and I don't think the 5800X3D is worth now, unless if it's priced at U$220 tops. Even so, might just save money to buy a AM5 kit in one or two years.
cosine83@reddit
I mean, if it will cost less than CPU+RAM+Motherboard to upgrade to AM5 then yeah, why wouldn't someone upgrade to the top tier CPU on AM4 and ride out the RAM prices gouging the same likely price as a single 32GB or 64GB RAM kit? Easy decision.
OkDrawing8159@reddit
idk 350$ is about the most ill go and it was last sold at 264$ when it was in stock. If their seriously day 1 msrp this annie cpu at 350-400$ as such an old product with no investment needed in a fab /tooling to produce it....then to me it will still come across as an F U from amd. But if it opens up at 300$ id probably be at microcenter on launch day. IDK how many units/how flush the shelves will be stocked globally or in the USDM i could imagine a lot of scalpaers buying them up to re-sell to people that dont have access at disgusting mark ups.
cosine83@reddit
I think it's unrealistic to expect anything other than original MSRP.
dst_corgi@reddit
I just upgraded to AM5 like a week ago, and I’m super happy with it. That being said, I would’ve absolutely tossed a 5800X3D in my old motherboard and called it a day had it been available. The total cost jumping to AM5 is more than double the cost of the CPU upgrade itself with DDR5 RAM priced as it is.
OkDrawing8159@reddit
worst part was they had the 5800x3d selling at 265$ and lower at times when it was EOL/discontinued....then wound up pushing a 480$ "upgrade" to the 7800x3d when the 7600x3d microcenter bundles or the prime summer sale had that at a steal of a deal....price competitive with the 5800x3d in an era where ddr5 was very well priced then a blink of an eye later into q4 things went down hill AF. And the 5800x3d was already off the market by that point...and the 5700x3d was still being sold pretty high new. They even raised the price of the 7800x3d when they had chip shortages over the last year....smfh.
CountYourDukes@reddit
i'd rather go 13600kf and sell my am4 than buy a 5800x3d at 250€+ for 1440p. Idk why amd loves to give freebies to their opposition so much.
Odur29@reddit
Yea but supposedly 13th and 14th gen still have that whole killing themselves slowly over time issue that wasn't 100% fixed just "mostly" mitigated.
Kalrot__@reddit
To be honest, since last year I have seen more post of dead AMD CPUs than dead or degrading Intel CPUs lol. I think its really fixed, either way some people say it was only a small batch of the degrading CPUs and the other issue was over volting them (wich seems to be fixed).
Odur29@reddit
yea I had to undervolt my 9800x3d because it was pulling way to much over 1.305 in some cases.
DCS30@reddit
that's my fear exactly. gouging knows no bounds.
Prince_Uncharming@reddit
This isn’t bottled water after a hurricane or some other necessity, there’s no “gouging” here. They launch a product that people want, and charge what they think those people will pay.
People aren’t getting gouged when they willingly choose to buy something explicitly released as an anniversary edition or top of the line performer.
windowpuncher@reddit
Reddit throws a fit whenever a company acts rationally instead of being a charity
SaLaDiN1337@reddit
You lack the intellect to understand that consumers wanting as cheap goods as possible is also rational, beneficial to the entire economy and no one is asking for charity.
Don't comment about the stuff you know shit about.
windowpuncher@reddit
Ahhhhh there it is
SaLaDiN1337@reddit
Your lack of understanding, that there are two parties and they have conflicting interests and that you are too stupid and biased to mock just one?
Yes, finally you are correct about something.
windowpuncher@reddit
Oh, no. I'm just mocking you.
ghostsilver@reddit
reddit really likes to think all business must act like a charity
yabucek@reddit
Woah let me stop you right there buddy
Try posting this one one of the larger subs and you'll get called a billionaire bootlicker.
OkDrawing8159@reddit
moments like this always remind me of the opening monologue in Scorsese's The Departed
JonWood007@reddit
And for some reason this sub acts like the people who think they're all enlightened because they took econ 101 once.
eriksp92@reddit
It's absurd, because not even I - a communist - think like this. This is literally how markets are supposed to work!
herbert181@reddit
bro's a communist
JonWood007@reddit
This is peak "pure ideology" right here.
Prince_Uncharming@reddit
In what way is that ideological?
This isn’t some necessity good in a market with no alternatives where you there is no alternative option available (like my bottled water after a hurricane example). This is an anniversary edition product which may see high demand, if even simply because it’s an anniversary edition. AMD will see how many they think they can sell at whatever price they target, make that many, and move on.
Nobody is forcing somebody to pay an inflated price here. There isn’t a natural disaster being taken advantage of. There isn’t some other issue being exploited for a higher-than-normal return. You simply don’t understand how pricing works OR what gouging is, and are unhappy with any price you personally perceive as too high.
I’m not saying whatever price they pick isn’t too high. I’m saying no matter what price they pick, even a hypothetical billion dollars, isnt gouging, because there are other available substitutes at suitable prices. That’s how literally all (normal) pricing works.
JonWood007@reddit
Markets are about power relations. Prices are determined by who can assert their bargaining power. As i see it suppliers control the market and have all the cards. You can go "well ackshully you dont HAVE to pay high prices" but its still predatory af.
And yes I do understand how pricing works. And how basic economics work. I just understand people treat it like a religion.
NoxiousStimuli@reddit
Explain to the class you don't know anything about scalpers without saying you don't know anything about scalpers.
The RTX 3xxx series scalping was literally 4 years ago, it's not exactly outside living memory and yet here you are acting as if this boutique CPU won't get scalped because... AMD set the RRP on it?
Nvidia set the RRP on 3080s too, that didn't stop them selling for £1,200.
Prince_Uncharming@reddit
Scalping is an entirely separate conversation and irrelevant to what I’m talking about.
NoxiousStimuli@reddit
A limited edition CPU is never going to be able to be produced in numbers that would both satisfy demand and eliminate scalpers, so no, it's entirely fucking relevant. The gouging comes later when the only way to get one is through scalpers.
glizzygobbler247@reddit
People think that cheap top tier gaming is a hunan right lol
Protoclown98@reddit
Im sorry but are you implying 400+fps isnt a human right?
glizzygobbler247@reddit
Anything less than 500 fps is basically torture
trash-_-boat@reddit
Human eyes can't see under 144 Hz.
crab_quiche@reddit
It’s a szechuan right though
DCS30@reddit
we'll see. the manufactured ram "shortage" has something to say about that. i don't care about paying retail, but if it's an inflated cost with zero justification, that's called gouging.
VodkaHaze@reddit
No, it's not, gouging is
pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available.You can buy tons of other things; you're welcome to complain about the price, you can say AMD are scummy, but words have meaning.
JustinPA@reddit
MW says:
charging customers too much money
EdiT342@reddit
Arguing about semantics and we don't even know how much it's gonna cost. Could just be a re-release with a slightly higer price tag
Sopel97@reddit
which is by definition not possible in a competitive market
IguassuIronman@reddit
Sounds like you're more interested in making up a narrative then you are about basing your comments in reality
phate_exe@reddit
There's a pretty big difference between the prices on every stick of DDR4 and DDR5 being inflated, and one particular product being priced high.
In the first case, your options are "spend lots of money on ram", "pay normal new prices for used ram", and "don't buy ram".
In the second case your options are "spend lots of money on a specific CPU" and "buy literally any other CPU"
TheGillos@reddit
Could still be a worthy upgrade for me (5600 non x).
OkDrawing8159@reddit
imo it really just depends on the genre desired...if youre trying to play something like rivals XD or chasing AAA launches to play on day 1 launch. Otherwise i wouldnt say its that necessary unless you have a 500$+ gpu or are looking at used past high tier options to upgrade towards and dont want to bottleneck 25-30% of the performance projection of said gpu off the top. Then again depending on the title/api/engine cranking up resolution can make a bottleneck a lot less noticeable or impactful. Like BG3 is a turn based game i doubt id ever need MORE than 100 fps to enjoy that game. Even witcher 3 i can crank it way up and run 4k dldsr(ai supersampling) on my 1440p monitor and find drops to 50 fps reasonable when it avgs around 70 and a BUILT character can walkthrough the game anyways. ESP as someone whos come from days of playing cod 4 on a radeon x600 at worse fps than that witcher scenario XD. Or a 7990 that rarely had day 1 launch crossfire/divider support and stability...it really comes down to what YOU personally value the most in your gaming experience...if you get peer pressured into playing something like rivals or deadlock...then youlll have that FOMO of not having a beefy enough rig to really maximize the effort your putting in....but siege/valorant/cs2 etc are all free and require much less for a great/competitive experience
skylinestar1986@reddit
With matching "legendary" DDR4 price.
eugkra33@reddit
Probably cheaper than the price difference between ddr4 and ddr5, still. But I don't know if it's worth it vs a Ryzen 9600x if you're building from scratch.
nanonan@reddit
It was always worth more than msrp. What a product.
biggie1447@reddit
On the other hand its cheaper to buy this processor to upgrade an existing system than buy a completely new AM5 system.
arby80@reddit
I am getting fed up with my 5800X I have been dealing with random crashes about every 6 months for about 2 weeks, I will adjust bios settings and the issue will go away. Then for whatever reason the issue will come back in about 6-8 months like clockwork. I believe it is because the 5800X is incredibly unstable. Not quite ready to change out everything to move to an AM5. I hope the 3D is a reasonable price. It doesn't look like it has the same stability issues reported as the regular 5800X.
MaybeSomeDayX1@reddit
I've had the 5800x since it came out and I've never had a single issue with it. In fact I have it pegged at 4.7 ghtz all core 247 on an air cooler and it's been like that for years. Lol
PolarizingKabal@reddit
Curious what this is going to prices at.
Managed to grab one (new) at $400 just after it was originally discontinued and prices spikes.
colev14@reddit
If it's $300 or less, this will sell great.
GIGASHORTER@reddit
All the used ones on the market are listed for $800-900aud... its a joke.
mostrengo@reddit
Listed /= sold
peerlessblue@reddit
It's selling lol
Inside-Example-7010@reddit
that is crazy I have a 5800x3d but would swap it for a 9700x and ddr5.
I actually dont think it makes much sense to bring back this cpu unless they are managing to sell it for cheap. Hardware unboxed recently did a comprehensive benchmark of cpus and while the 5800x3d is still a perfectly adequate gaming cpu in 20206 it isnt much better if at all in most games than a 7600x or a 9600x.
A 9600x is only £180 and outperforms a 5800x3d which will likely sell for around 325+. So youre already getting a better cpu, a more up to date socket and £150 towards the DDR5 price delta to DD4.
ConversationFirm2112@reddit
It depends on the game quite a lot. Sometimes it beats the 9900x. Large cache sizes have historically aged very well - intel x99 xeons can still run everything 60+ fps no problem.
GIGASHORTER@reddit
When i was on the am4 5600x cpu i wanted to upgrade to the 5800x3d and found upgrading to the 7800x3d was much cheaper over all.. lol
Agent-Kid@reddit
That is kinda the big stinker though. DDR5 is still stupidity expensive. Combined with the cost of a new motherboard too.
I agree though, unless they sell this for a pretty affordable price, it doesn't make sense.
If you're stuck on the AM4 platform, then this will be nice for the right price, but if it's outrageous then it just makes sense to save for an AM5 bundle from microcenter.
OptimusNog@reddit
I need this. I run a 5600X because this didn't exist when I built my PC. Then a few years later when I need a CPU upgrade to allow me to support a new graphics card I was shocked to find out it's been discontinued and resold for insane prices, wtf! I tried running a 9700XT with my 5600X and was just completely bottlenecked so I returned it thinking I'll wait for AM6. But if this was a reasonable price maybe I would reconsider extending my AM4 PC.
ButtPlugForPM@reddit
5800x3d might be the goat of cpus
i gave it to my wife for her gaming pc and its still just smashing everything partnered with her 5080 like Rock solid
it introduced pretty much everyone into why vcache is so good. and put amd pretty much firmly on the top and was the final nail IMHO to intels dominance in the consumer sector.
Gippy_@reddit
All-time I'd put it behind the Q6600 and 2600K. Those two CPUs could overclock +50% and they were also good (at the time) for things like video encoding, instead of being a one-trick gaming pony.
antipodalmap@reddit
I was still using a Q6600 at 3.2GHz (400x8) until mid-2022 as my home desktop until I caved and finally upgraded. The Xigmatek cooler I had on it was super loud, and I don't miss that, and yeah, I wasn't gaming much on it for the last few years, but that it was even passable with the overclock after 10+ years was insane.
-Outrageous-Vanilla-@reddit
Do not forget the Celeron 300A and AMD Thunderbird with the pencil trick.
NycAlex@reddit
Damn, athlon thunderbird with pencil trick was my goat during college. My room mate hated the jet engine sound from the cpu cooler (thermaltake volcano)
intel e5200 for those who couldn't afford the q6600
intel 2500k goated, used this shit for 9 years overclocked
ryzen 1700, made intel stop fucking around with 4 cores
OkDrawing8159@reddit
bro my refurb 7990 vrm blew and fried my 2500k build 9 years after running it with a 4.5ghz 24/7 oc...went to buy a new rig and laughed my ass out the store with a 9650h laptop and 1660ti setup as a temporary setup before i saved more for a better build and sold the laptop....smfh the 9600k had no HT i was like tf you expect me to drop 300$ on a cpu with no HT to use for a few years b4 its too crappy and bottlenecks a 500$+ gpu upgrade...The laptop ran 4ghz with an undervolt and the gpu was able to oc up to damn near desktop specs. What a joke thinking zen2+ was my only price viable option LIKE hell i would have spent on a zen2+ build 1200$+ for something so insubstantial.
ltcdata@reddit
I had a Q6600 (bought used) at 333x9... almost 3ghz of goodness... purred for 5 years after it fried itself lol
IguassuIronman@reddit
I got the computers out of my uncle's pizza shop when he replaced them, maybe ~2017ish? They had C2D E8400s so I got a Q6600 off eBay for $20 and tried to tape mod it. Ended up dropping to 1.8GHz instead of getting to 3GHz...
FranciumGoesBoom@reddit
My roommate had a WC loop with 4 Delta fans in push/pull config. Only took about an hour before i told him to shut that shit off.
ProfessionalPrincipa@reddit
I'd put the later Thoroughbred Athlon's on there instead of the Thunderbird. I think I overclocked mine from 1.4Ghz to 2.1Ghz just by changing the FSB clock in the BIOS. It might not be an all-timer but it was a hugely overclockable monster like the 300A.
Gippy_@reddit
The Celeron 300A was great, don't get me wrong, but CPU clock speeds progressed so fast in the late 90s that CPUs literally became obsolete in a matter of months. It took less than 2 years for both Intel and AMD to go from 300MHz to 1GHz.
Games couldn't keep up with the explosive tech: it was funny playing Starcraft Brood War, which came out in December 1999, on a 1GHz+ CPU in 2000 when all it required was a Pentium 90.
-Outrageous-Vanilla-@reddit
Well... try to use the 2600K on Windows 11 and it will feel like a Pentium 90MHz
AK-Brian@reddit
Not so much.
OkDrawing8159@reddit
id second the 2500k no ht ironically just like the 9600k. More oriented towards the pure gamer/uptime end user. Seems more akin to the x3d marketing/methodology....only the 2500k was 1/5th a intel black 1366 cpu....and dunked on it in games......AMD has always tried to get away with selling things at any price they justify....x2 gpus with terrible ccc/day 1 launch crossfire support at times MONTHS on end....their fx cpu that was 1000$ bc at the time it was "king" and came with the price until you could dunk on it with an unlocked phenom x2 that used what was it a lan party dfi or asrock mobo to unlock to 4c. Like they infact had their time with good/vlaue and ideal highly RAN setups....by gamers...ive even ran F series hybrid crossfire platforms for friends on very tight budgets....but man theyve really gone down hill....built up an itx build with multiple video outs with expectations the 4000 series apu was going to have a decent igpu...it wound up having a worse igpu performance than the Picasso 3000 series JFC SMDH....
VodkaHaze@reddit
I rocked a 5775c for a literal decade and only started feeling it be a bottleneck around 2023 in gaming (in ML workloads it's another story).
The 4770k and/or 5775c might be somewhere in the top 10
Gippy_@reddit
If the 5775C worked for you, great. It didn't really get obsoleted at the consumer level until Intel released the 6C/12T 8700K.
However, I don't feel the 5775C should be in the top 10, and that's because it didn't work with almost all Z87 motherboards. That meant those who originally bought into Haswell (Intel 4th gen launch) with a 4670K/4770K with a Z87 mobo couldn't upgrade to the 5775C. LGA1150 with Z87 was essentially a 1-generation socket. People could buy a Z97 mobo, which supported the 5775C, but that was a waste if you already were on a Z87 mobo.
Broadwell (Intel 5th gen) was the last consumer generation of DDR3, and many people saw no reason to upgrade from a 2500K/2600K and held out until Intel 9th gen or beyond. This is in contrast to to its LGA1150's DDR4 successor, LGA1151. At least Intel 12th gen was significantly better than Intel 6th gen, so there was reason to carry over DDR4 from an Intel 6th gen system.
VodkaHaze@reddit
Yeah if you factor in availability, then the 5775c is not near the top 10; like you said only z97 + it was a limited run chip + it was quite expensive on release, and not that big of an upgrade over an overclocked 4770k in most cases.
Gippy_@reddit
If the 5775C worked for you, great. It didn't really get obsoleted at the consumer level until Intel released the 6C/12T 8700K.
However, I don't feel the 5775C should be in the top 10, and that's because it didn't work with almost all Z87 boards. That meant those who originally bought into Haswell with a 4670K/4770K with a Z87 board couldn't upgrade to the 5775C. LGA1150 with Z87 was essentially a 1-generation socket.
Broadwell was the last consumer generation of DDR3, and many people saw no reason to upgrade from a 2500K/2600K and held out until Intel 9th gen or beyond. This is in contrast to to its LGA1150's DDR4 successor, LGA1151. At least Intel 12th gen was significantly better than Intel 6th gen, so there was reason to carry over DDR4 from an Intel 6th gen system.
beigemore@reddit
My first YouTube video was of Age of Conan running on a Q6600, Asus P5N-SLI nForce 5, 4GB DDR2, 8800GTOC, and Windows Vista 64-bit. I was so proud of that system.
The video used to look a lot better, but at some point YouTube did some conversion with the really old videos and messed them up.
I used that computer for like 5 years and five video cards: 6800GS -> 8800GT -> GTX 275 -> GTX 560 Ti -> GTX 660 Ti. I used it until 2012 when I upgraded to an i5-3570k. Used the GTX 660 Ti on that until I got a GTX 1080 FE.
Super nerd stuff...
STL_Deez_Nutz@reddit
The q6600 not only overclocked by 30-50% pretty much guaranteed where it beat everything else on the market in pretty much every app, but it was also frequently on sale for 184 (shout outs to fry's) where it was cheaper than most good dual cores were.
The only chip one could argue was possibly better for it's time was that old celeron 300A that pretty much guaranteed a 50% overclock and could do 100% with upgraded cooling and a voltage mod. That thing beat the Pentium II thanks to the difference in how the cache was handled and it was the freaking budget chip. That one was back in the 90s, so most here probably weren't around for that.
The 5800x3d was an astoundingly good gaming chip, still doing well to this day, but the two chips mentioned were doing everything better and were cheaper to boot.
LiteratureMindless71@reddit
Boy do I miss the weekend frys runs :(
Action3xpress@reddit
Loved how each store had a unique theme!
ycnz@reddit
Q6600 also came with a copy of Supreme Commander.
Kasen_Ibara@reddit
Complete the mount rushmore with a Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
JonWood007@reddit
Former 965 owner, the phenoms aged like milk.
TheNSA922@reddit
I had a crappy Dell workstation way back just for Counter Strike and G-Mod and the BSEL overclock with copper tape made that CPU really decent.
RedTuesdayMusic@reddit
Ivy Bridge outperformed Sandy Bridge when both were overclocked, IPC gain over Sandy was 7.6% and Ivy only lost avg. 3% overclockability. Haswell and beyond were all downgrades from there for overclockers
kittymoo67@reddit
having had both i think 5800x3d will end up the kind. its got nearly a decade of life left
GfurEnjoyer1488@reddit
I bought an Athlon 64 X2 6400+ (90nm Windsor lol) next to an X2 6000+ (65nm Brisbane) and Q6600 back in 2008 :(
but in my defense, I was 9 years old and picked out all parts for the build myself, at least I was smart and heeded the advice to get 4GB of DDR2-800
42LSx@reddit
It definitely will be heralded in the next decades as one of the greatest CPUs, together with i5-2500K, Core2Duo and Athlon TBird (and some others).
JonWood007@reddit
Eh I feel like the 7800x3d is aging much better. Came out a year later and no non x3d cpu can touch it to this day.
42LSx@reddit
I personally would then rather pick the 9800X3D, which is right now one of the best CPUs you can buy.
JonWood007@reddit
Right now, yes, but the 7800x3d is three years old already and showing no signs of slowing down. Hence why I consider it the GOAT. GOAT cpus aren't always the best, they're the first of a long line of cpus that establish a certain standard. Think the q6600 or the i7 2600k. The q9650 and i7 4790k were better but the q6600 and i7 2600k came first.
ButtPlugForPM@reddit
ahh shit how could i forgot the 2500k
fuck me i got that thing to 4.95 stable on water it was just godlike overclock potential
i do miss those days where a bit of vcore tweak and a good cooler and memory timings would net u 30percent plus boost..
IguassuIronman@reddit
I ran my 3770k at 4.8GHz on a 212 Evo for ~5 years without an issue. Turned up the multiplier and called it a day, didn't even both changing it from auto voltage
ilessthanthreemath@reddit
I wish they would make a 5950X with 3D V-Cache, even if one CCD doesn't have it.
I've been using a 5800XT for my gaming rig, but it's a no-brainer to buy and replace it with a 5800X3D.
Socket AM4 will never die.
FieldOfFox@reddit
I’ve got a 5950x that can only run memory at 3000mhz, and I paid full price for it.
I wish I knew this was a returnable issue when I bought it…
OkDrawing8159@reddit
you should have seen the zen2 threads on the 3950x...sure it clocked the highest but w.o proper cooling the ALL core took a hit...and it needed SMT disabled to properly game...you had to force core failures to find where your weakest ccx/cores were to force disable them to keep clocks on the main gaming loads HIGH...yet entirely lost the pathway to the L3 cache bc they were gatekept via ccx access. Id jump into a warzone raid with the cpu fully enabled and see all cores/threads active...smfh all of that was USED to manipulate marketing towards "more cores matter" when in reality trying to maximize a 2080ti was a PITA joke of an experience using clock tuner ryzen, ryzen master, and DRAM calculator to get tertiaries and ram tightened up ideally. To accomplish what an intel could provide for that gpu...smfh.
FieldOfFox@reddit
Yeah I remember this. I jumped over that generation from 2700x to 5950x expecting all the printing bugs to be fixed.
They were not.
cosmin_c@reddit
My 5950x is also quite good but I doubt 3D Cache would make it better. The CPU is just too small and when it goes into full load the temps spike regardless of what you cool it with (probably phase change could theoretically keep it in check). Heat and 3D Cache don't go well together, so having 3D Cache on a 5950x would probably just limit how high in clock it can go (something I wouldn't be happy with, it's just too good for productivity tasks).
sitefall@reddit
I have one with a liquid freezer iii 420 on it. That keeps it at about 65 at max load, and it's basically always at max load when it's on since it's just part of a rendering server of sorts.
cosmin_c@reddit
Stock even with PBO it's generally fine. As soon as you start giving it voltage for an all-core o/c (my motherboard can all-core o/c and then when not in full load it behaves like PBO is on, also tweaked custom curves so to speak) it starts to go places you don't want to.
I also have a LF III 420 on it. With 1.3V in full load it goes into 78-80C on an all-core o/c of 4.4 GHz and the LF III is basically outside* the case (I did a thing with a 3D printed lid because it didn't fit well in the case). Sure, it also drives 4x32GB sticks, so there's a lot of stress on the poor thing.
RainbowKooch@reddit
If you can afford it or get the 5800x3d for a good price do it. I have it paired with a 5080 and it smashes every game I throw at it at 4k
jhenryscott@reddit
We said the same thing about Skylake lmao
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Intel dominance, they were still losing marketshare pre vache
April 2018:
Intel: 88.59%
amd: 11.41%
March 2022: pre-vcache
Intel: 69.34%
amd: 30.66%
March 2026:
Intel: 54.98%
amd: 45.02
OkDrawing8159@reddit
only had to use their entire consumer base to beta process a zen3(zencore) as ppl were pointed towards the 3950x if they had a flagship gpu...bc i thad more l3 cache and higher clocks sustained...only to have to force disable CCX that were weak cores and in turn disable that l3 cache pathway....just to keep your gaming load/cores maximized....with smt off ofc...and this is after using clock tuner ryzen and dram calculator to force b-die to run 3200/3600 with the tightest timings possible which took time and effort to diagnose....when intel could be running 6000mhz+ and letting a 2080ti flourish. zen zen+ zen2 were all beta process hell zen2 was launched summer 2019 and zen3 was q4 2020 XD.
Pandaisblue@reddit
All the stuff about those 13/14th Gen Intel self destructing too, just a perfect streak of better chips + X3D + luck for AMD.
SmashStrider@reddit
Steam data, right?
JonWood007@reddit
People need to seriously stop glazing this thing. Intel matched it at the time with a 12900k, although that was more expensive. A year later the thing was being matched by the much cheaper 13600k and 7600x/7700x. The 7800X3D is aging much better, it didnt get BTFOed in a year and when it did get beaten it was by AMD releasing another X3D successor.
The 5800X3D is kinda weird in comparison. Like....sometimes it'll perform way ahead of contemporary processors because 3D vcache and other times it literally performs like a 5800x. It's just all over the place. It's an okay CPU, don't get me wrong, but acting like OMG IT IS T3H G047! is massively hyperbolic. As others have said, this doesn't have anything on the likes of the 2600k or even some core 2 quad processors for their time like the Q6600.
If I were to do a tier list of processors, I'd consider it A tier, but not GOAT status S tier.
BannedCuzSarcasm@reddit
Running 5700X3D and the bottleneck is still the 9070 XT.
2 GOATs in a single line up.
CptSaveaCat@reddit
As someone with a 5800x now, would it be worth to move to a 5800x3D?
SemenSnickerdoodle@reddit
If you can find a used one that means the upgrade is ~$100 USD at most, I would do it. The boost in 1% lows and for CPU heavy games like Factorio or MMOs make it very worth it. I went from a 5600X to 5800X3D back in 2023 and gaming performance improved greatly even at 1440p and it still kicks ass today.
ButtPlugForPM@reddit
not really.
i mean in some games ur gonna see upwards of 30fps plus boost
example i went from a 5700x to a 5800x3d at the time and my battlefield 2042 gameplay went from 130fps to 160.
but then ur also going to be couging up 300 plus bucks just for a 15 percent boost.
but also it's cheaper than getting ddr5 lol..
so yes and no
CptSaveaCat@reddit
My RAM will die before I buy again, it’s like 8 years old and holding strong
ButtPlugForPM@reddit
yeah honestly if u could scab one on the cheap sure..
but yeah stupid to pay 300usd just for 15fps
im lucky im sitting on a box of ddr5 ram..
so the upgrade to am5 for me was simple..but others yeah not even worth it with these prices
massive_cock@reddit
I run one with a 4090 as a full-time content creator and years later still have zero need or interest in upgrading for years to come. It'll go down as one of the all-times, indeed.
ButtPlugForPM@reddit
yep really if ur only playing at 1440p it's fine till am6 ezy..
Stingray88@reddit
Same here. Video editor, and gamer. Originally built with a 3950X, 64GB of RAM and 2080Ti in 2019, then I upgraded to the 5800X3D and 4090 in 2022 when each of those came out. This machine will definitely go down as my longest lived rig ever… I want to try to last until we get AM6 so I can have yet another long lasting rig with years of upgrade potential, as opposed to buying until the end of AM5. So far I’ve felt absolutely no need to upgrade yet at all. I’m only gaming at 3440x1440 120Hz though.
massive_cock@reddit
Funny, that was almost exactly my earlier specs too. 3900X, 2080ti, 32gb then 64gb to handle massive custom textures in modded Kerbal Space Program. I also game at 1440p120, and just have 3x 1080p60 side screens. I fully expect this rig to last another 3-5 years before I even care to consider an update. When I built it the 7800X3D was juuust coming out, but there were too many iffy warnings about DDR5 issues and things and sticking to the same old AM4 board I'd had since the 2700X saved hundreds. I see performance charts for newer CPUs and just do not care.
Stingray88@reddit
I’m also waiting for a 5K2K 240Hz 34” OLED to release at a non-stupid price. So far we only have a 45” and 39”, so it’s gonna be a few years lol. After that upgrade I’ll need a new GPU, and will probably want a new CPU.
RainbowKooch@reddit
I literally have the same cpu and gpu and can say you are 100 percent spot on. I don’t think I’m gonna need to upgrade until am6
Numerous_Engine6910@reddit
yea currently either upgrading to am5 or if I can get a 5800x3d for 250-299 Id just do that I think thats the plan for anyone in am4 rn. paying for new ram is only worth it if your spending the same amount for a 5800x3d (it's really 400 dont buy one for 450 if u seeing this just wait and u will find it for 400) But if this does drop for 400 at the very least it might drop used prices for a while and thats when I can make my choice unless I snipe a good deal on a 7600x3d and ram and mobo
Current-Agent7682@reddit
My 5700x i got for 150 new and i are chillin
Distinct_Rope@reddit
Whats the odds this makes it north to Memory Express?
Will this be a box store release or just a specialty run?
XavandSo@reddit
I am guessing it is going to be extremely limited, basically a marketing product, like the MSI Lightning or the ASUS Matrix 5090s were. I can't imagine them spinning up proper production of such an old part for a small release. They must have left over chips or ones held back for this reason knowing how beloved the 5800X3D was.
winnipegr@reddit
I wonder if they found an undelivered shipping container full of trayed CPUs or something? I guess once you have the chip designed and set up for the lithography machines it's just a matter of running the wafers through, though. 🤷♂️
Still rocking my 5800x3d 3 or 4 years on now, and it's an amazing CPU
chriscross1966@reddit
It's the same chiplet set as last-gen Epyc but more importantly it's all on 7nm and the current AI stuff is all on 4nm (or approximate equivalent), so booking 7nm node time is probably easy and cheap. AMD might have been betting on being able to use Epyc for data centre rollouts but folks went with the newer stuff, however they could really put the strangle on Intel in the gaming space if they care to by making the 5800X3D for a few more years.... the installed userbase of AM4 boards out there is huge, and China is still printing them out, DDR4 is way cheaper than DDR5, and rather more importantly the usual problem of "budget" boards, the VRM's doesn't really come into play on a 95W part that really doesn't overclock cos of the 3D-Vcache architecture.... If you're upgrading to DDR5 for gaming you're probably going AMD anyway, but if the DDR5 situation is putting you off then AMD have a captive market for a chip they can churn out cos it's on the last-gen node....
SwiftAndDecisive@reddit
57x3d was quickly stopped, too good for the price(140-160USD)
Mateorabi@reddit
I’m guessing the line is tweaked. And getting it set up EXACTLY would require re dialing it in.
f3n2x@reddit
As long as DRAM is so expensive a 5800X3D as the best-in-socket AM4 upgrade is not a niche part but potentially one of the best selling CPUs 2026 if it's cheap enough.
mostrengo@reddit
I bought the 5800x3d with the intent to ride it until AM6. And that was before the DDR5 crisys. That plan is even more relevant now.
reality_hijacker@reddit
Not many people buying desktops with the insane DRAM and GPU prices. The number of people looking for an AM4 upgrade is quite limited.
ElementII5@reddit
Doubt it. It's on a 12nm and 7nm node. There is practically unlimited wafer supply for those nodes and the other nodes being gobbled up by AI chips these give gamers at least some cheap options.
suddenlysnowedinn@reddit
I’ll definitely jump on this if it happens. My 5900x has been an unstable mess.
Qlown@reddit
Hope its at a decent price or at least makes the second hand market for am4 3d chips drop
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Whats a good price for you?
Fractured_Life@reddit
£250 maybe £300?
I've seen them get more used so who knows 😬
Fractured_Life@reddit
Seems there are enough people still on Zen 1, 2 or 3 that these would be welcome with the RAM situation. As a strategy, it might be aimed at convincing those AM4 users not to move to Intel, even though it also probably hits AM5 mobo sales for their partners. They can use the newer nodes for some AIslop servers 🤷
jenny_905@reddit
Makes sense, AM4/DDR4 is unlikely to go away any time soon given the cost pressures of upgrading. . Still a very capable chip and easy money for AMD
kenyard@reddit
If it's made on equipment which can't do am5 maybe it's sensible too.
Nvidia started remaking 30xx or 40xx cards also this year didn't they?
Canadian_Border_Czar@reddit
Why would NVIDIA do that? Those cards use RAM too dont they?
No_Fennel4315@reddit
GDDR6 is cheap. GDDR7 is not.
If you want an example, look at the monstrous price gap these days between the 9070 xt and 5070 ti... pretty sure base 5070 is more expensive than 9070 xt here now 😂
Bruce_Wayne170@reddit
GDDR6 in RTX 30/40 series has good stock and market availability vs GDDR7 in RTX 50 series(low output and higher demand)
Dreamerlax@reddit
If the price is right, I might do it lol.
Dazzling_Side8036@reddit
Same. I have 5600 overclocked to whatever the 5600x is basically. I'd love an x3d upgrade that isn't $500
pinkycatcher@reddit
I will. I have a 5600x but I play a lot of games where the 3d cache will improve things greatly.
techraito@reddit
It really depends on price considering 5800x3D had a $450 MSRP.
For $350 right now, you can get a 7600x3D + motherboard + ram combo bundle at Microcenter and jump ship to AM5.
Salty-Can4193@reddit
we wouldn't even really consider AM4 right now if it wasn't for the RAMageddon. DDR4 is already double its price before , and DDR5 while lowering in price recently is still at ridiculous prices. the DDR5 pricing is what's preventing people to jump ship to AM5.
pinkycatcher@reddit
Except I'd need to double the ram, possibly buy another cooler and based on all the benchmarks a 7600x3d is slightly under a 5800x3d
techraito@reddit
Do you do more CPU related tasks?
The 5800x3D is only faster in applications that require more cores; otherwise the 7600X3D performs better for games across the board. For DDR5 6000mhz, theres no benefit to adding more RAM to the X3D chips because they have so much L3 cache in the first place. Unless you're catering more towards workstation, I really do think the 5800x3d 10th edition has to be $300 or less to sell well, maybe $250 if we're lucky.
The biggest benefit of the bundle is jumping ship to AM5 to make upgrading to a 9800X3D in the future easier. AM4 is end of life :/
You can always sell your older parts to offset the price, too. PC parts are hot on the market right now.
Saneless@reddit
I think their ram point is the MC bundles only come with 16GB of ram, which they'd want to double to 32
Elijah1573@reddit
Same here ive got a 5800X and despite the CPU largely being the same as what i already have i play alot of simulation games that benefit greatly from the 3D cache
If the prices werent so horrible right now id just build a whole new system on AM5 but here we are
PromotionMundane7320@reddit
Same boat. I was very fortunate to grab some great DDR4 through best buy for an awesome price, and damn it I remember hearing this re-release "idea" floating around tech sites several months ago and wanting to hold out "just in case". Getting the replacement/upgraded AM4 pieces over time when the prices were right was just so much more feasible for my existing system.
Otto_the_Autopilot@reddit
I'd buy this in a heartbeat. The current used prices are insane, hopefully the price reflects the age of his chip.
Saneless@reddit
Same. Somewhat hard to justify when I can go to microcenter and get a 7600x3d CPU, ram, MB for $300 or 350. But if it's cheap enough I may grab it and give the kid my 5600x3d
Miniteshi@reddit
I'm sitting here with a. 5700x3D and a 9070XT. After weighing up price Vs performance, I'm skipping AM5 entirely. Maybe even AM6 unless the gains are substantial.
omega552003@reddit
If you haven't figured it out yet, AMD names their sockets after the version of DDR it targets. There are some exceptions, but for the most part:
So that would imply AM6 would be DDR6and with the release schedule for each socket roughly ever 6 years and DDR6's release around 2027, you'll only have to wait till 2028 for AM6.
Miniteshi@reddit
I'm aware of the designations but realistically a well rounded AM4/DDR4 system doesn't really warranty/benefit much of an entire system overhaul hence my potential wait for a AM6/DDR6 system. Maybe even then it may not be worthwhile
Lower_Fan@reddit
Me too even tho I haven’t played a pc game since like cyberpunk
kikimaru024@reddit
You haven't played a game in 5 years?
Qweasdy@reddit
They played it yesterday actually
work-school-account@reddit
I haven't played a PC game since Fallout 3.
(I played it this morning on my commute.)
zopiac@reddit
I haven't played a PC game since Unreal Tournament.
Had to see if a modern high refresh OLED could match motion clarity of a good old CRT! (almost)
Lower_Fan@reddit
Not on pc not I got a ps5 due to the unavailability of the 3000 series
AveragusPenus@reddit
Holy shit, life is looking up for me, guys. I've been running a Ryzen 5600g for over 5 years. Bought this guy during the time GPUs prices were super fucked.
I recently started looking into upgrading to am5 because I feel my set up is struggling a bit with fps games, and thought I might as well do a full upgrade. Turns out I missed my chance to upgrade by like 5 months, ain't no way I'm buying 2x16gb for 400 fucking quid.
Had to dive into pc nerd culture and educate myself enough to figure out I can massively upgrade with an am4 x3d. imagine my disappointment when them shits got discontinued ages ago and are being resold for stupid prices.
Bro I was a few weeks away from saying fuck it and buying the ridiculously priced ram, along with a whole new build. Guys I am the main character. This re-release was made for me.
sky3cabe@reddit
If the price is right, might upgrade my 5600.
comperko@reddit
Im still on AM4 because I would pretty much need completely new pc if I wanted to upgrade to AM5 and with the insane ram prices its not worth it(although they are slowly dropping in price but still ridicilously expensive). So this might be worth it for me even if it will be relatively expensive but still better value than upgrading to AM5. I have r5 5600 right now.
reddit_equals_censor@reddit
if it costs 200 us dollars or even 250 us dollars, then this would be the first non evil thing amd did in regards to the ai dystopian nightmare and the "good" thing shouldn't get praised, because ALL that amd is doing is undoing their earlier evil move of eol-ing the 5700x3d and 5800x3d....
i really REALLY hope it won't be some overpriced bs with limited availability, because i wanna be able to recommend sth ANYTHING to people again to get by.
hell if it is 200 us dollars, then dead platform building makes sense again. 250 euros for 32 GB ddr4 3600 cl16-19-19 + 200 us dollars/euros for the cpu and then only a good enough am4 motherboard is left for parts, that would be locked in.
the memory price is still an absolute scam, but you can stomach this price just fine then.
INITMalcanis@reddit
Why wouldn't it come out at "MSRP"...?
reddit_equals_censor@reddit
because the 5800x3d released 4 years ago.
and its 450 us dollar msrp was based around it being by far the best on am4 and it also needing relatively good yields from all the zen3 dies to make it happen.
at the time the 5700x3d at 250 us dollars msrp was the one, that probably was possible to make with almost every zen3 core chiplet.
but since the 4 year time of the 5800x3d process nodes improved, so one can imagine, that today most zen3 or a big enough portion will be good enough to go into 5800x3d chips.
and it is 4 year old performance. it no longer is the best.
and because the 5800x3d was on the market until mid 2024 (they ended production then), it was also already not at msrp, but vastly below. in europe it cost below 300 euros. not for a small sale, but from mid 2023 to mid 2024.
AND the 5800x3d performs about as well as an r5 9600x, which is of course on am5, but costs already about 190 euros.
so if the 5800x3d would cost about 450 us dollars/euros, then amd is showing people the middle finger, instead of giving them a real option. people could spend the 260 euros/us dollars saved going with a 9600x and get the overpriced memory with that extra money and be a non dead platform.
and for people already on am4, it would leave a very very bitter taste to have to think about paying 450 us dollars!!! for a 4 year old cpu, that may be worth getting to them just due to an issue, that amd partially caused in the first place.
___
so while amd could charge 450 us dollars, they absolutely shouldn't. 200 us dollars would be great and reasonable. 250 us dollars would be pushing it. 300 us dollars would be high.
and 450 us dollars would be 50% more than the cpu was for an entire year in the past and would lead a giant marketing victory (because people will ignore, that amd eol-ed the cpu in the first place.... ) into a marketing loss, because people will shit at them for the price massively.
VenaresUK@reddit
As some still stuck on a 3700x I appreciate this
Flo133701@reddit
On a 5800X rn, just wonder if its even worth it.
I mean I& am already on the X Variant, is the 3D VCache REALLY that much of a Boost compared to that?
StarbeamII@reddit
Depends entirely on what games you play. Some see a lot of benefit, and others not so much.
No_Indication_2433@reddit
Non il est a 400 euros neuf sur certains sites mais les gens abusent avec la spéculation et même certains fournisseurs mais c'est le meilleur processeur sous carte mère am4
ViSuper4ns@reddit
limpieza de stock camuflada
ThrowRAredkami@reddit
I’m rocking with a 3800x and 3080! I’m definitely pulling the trigger if it’s 300$ or lower. Anyone on AM4, our only viable option other than selling a kidney for a total overhaul was the 5500x3d. I also have a G9 Odd so Destiny 2 at 240fps is going to be nuts
cammue@reddit
Maybe it would be a good time to upgrade my 1800x from 2017. "I'm tired boss"
OkDrawing8159@reddit
even a used locally sourced zen3 would be a nominal upgrade the change from ccx/gatekept l3 cache to zencore was brilliant for gamers on amd. Only reason to really need an X3D is to get the most out of a 500$+ gpu investment and you want to avoid as much bottlnecking as possible...lest you wind up paying for a 4070 per ex in the past....to wind up with FPS yields of a 4060ti....it just is how it goes....or spending even more for a 4070ti just to have it perform on par with a 4070 on its best day and even at times near a 4060ti. Just bc of cpu/chipset/ram speed bottlenecks hell even a shoddy vrm too or voltage degraded platform or 12v rail degraded PSU. Not only is it bad for a bottleneck loss of performance....but transients
number8888@reddit
AM4 socket refuses to die. I hope the price at the stores will be reasonable.
KARMAAACS@reddit
I mean this only is viable because of the RAM situation right now. If RAM was like it was in July last year, it would be a pointless product tbh when the 7800X3D, 7600X3D or 7500X3D exists. This is an old CPU on a dead socket missing PCIE 5.0 support (not that it's really an issue but regardless, it's old tech).
OkDrawing8159@reddit
theyre just scrounging for profits where ever they can cultivate them....if they were so serious about AM4 support and all of the marketing methodology the 5800x3d would have NEVER been discontinued in the first place. And would have been available to am4 consumers looking for an ideal upgrade in these last few years...sold a 4ccx 3950 as a gaming solution when ccx is a nightmare...any more than a duel CCD. Now 2nm chips are going to have stacked cache as a standard....and amd is desperate to find $$ under every rock they can place....bc even AMD is scared those 2nm chips are going to have a hard time selling when ddr5 is so expensive....those main boards/vrm/chipsets are going to be pretty special for the 2nm/ai implications so those wont be cheap either. As if amd hasnt been in this position or directly put themselves in a position like this time and time again in the past.
Protoclown98@reddit
Yeah pretty much. Only reason I am considering a used AM4 motherboard to replace my OG ryzen motherboard is because of the RAM situation. Would rather spend $85 to get through the next 2 years than dump tons of money into AM5.
Even going to Microcenter isn't worth it. I don't want to spend $700 on a motherboard/cpu/ram that I am not entirely happy with.
kittymoo67@reddit
its hard to die when youre still at least as good as intels most recent chips in gaming and your ram is much cheaper
Direct_Jeweler_7457@reddit
Delusional take the best Cpu in am4 is this one but it's absurdly expensive for the price since it's best in slot and isn't produced anymore
So for normal pricing you are basically stuck with a ryzen 5 5700x since every single other CPU is just some variation of the same ccd
Even then a 5700x3d is nearly as good as a i5-13600kf
I like amd but investing in lga 1700 was the better choice
(Which id what i am gonna do with my build you can get into lga 1700 with a i3 12100F second hans which is like lower than 50 dollars and it will go all the way to 14900KS
kittymoo67@reddit
no one should be doing a new build but for existing ones to upgrade its fine
Direct_Jeweler_7457@reddit
Ddr5 ram is expensive and i will refuse to pay more for my ram than my gpu
jenny_905@reddit
What are the actual numbers on that?
Konigstiger_42@reddit
I hope those scalpers selling for $500+ get rekt
ref1ux@reddit
Does this mean I might be able to upgrade my CPU at last without having to sell a kidney?
Tibia7890@reddit
I don't expect a reasonable price tbh
R_NeedfulPilot@reddit
I literally bought a Ryzen 7 5700X in January and now this thing releases.
Am I still going to buy it?
…ye
Tibia7890@reddit
I also use a 5700x and there is no way I’d pay more than 225-250 for the 5800x3d. I expect it to cost 350-400. lets wait and see though.
R_NeedfulPilot@reddit
Fair.
Main reason I’m going for it is I intend to stay on AM4 till AM6 releases. And I know scalpers are going to snag as much as they can on release.
ieatfleshofhumans@reddit
Someone remind me when this launches 😅
knightrider2k43@reddit
Meanwhile I copped a 5890X3D back in 2024 for around $400 🥲
Gippy_@reddit
Hahaha huge L to everyone who paid $700 for this CPU
Fit_March3938@reddit
no joke i literally just installed the 2nd hand i bought for $500 a couple of hours ago and i see this. i'm fuming lol.
Canadian_Border_Czar@reddit
Theres no prices yet. You probably didnt overpay by much, and depending on what you upgraded from you're likely about to be blown away. So go load up world of warcraft and enjoy the experience homie.
Buyers remorse is silly.
noob622@reddit
I’m stuck on a 5800XT and I’d snap up one of these in a heartbeat if it’s lands under $400, no brainer vs having to splurge on AM5/DDR5.
HyperBRUIN@reddit
Same! I'm on a 5800X so I'd buy one if possible, at anything under $400.
DCS30@reddit
if the price is right, i'm in the market as a step up from my 5600x.
Protoclown98@reddit
I stepped up in February to the 5600xt chip and even I'd buy a 5800x3d if it is priced right. Would be amazing if AMD actually delivers this.
MekotheSaurus@reddit
Depends on the price.
There are many people still using 3xxx or even non 3d 5xxx that could settle for a 15-40% boost in gaming while waiting for RAM prices to become reasonable again.
Protoclown98@reddit
Tbh it might last until AM6 comes out, which seems worth it to skip the entire AM5 platform.
I imagine pc sales are in the shitter in general with RAM prices the way they are.
MekotheSaurus@reddit
Second hand 5800x3d are going for 400€ in my country and still more value that upgrading to a ddr5 platform.
If AMD re-releases the 5800x3d for 300€ it will sell like candy.
Gwolf4@reddit
Basically all the planet that cannot or don't want to upgrade to am5. I am one for example and I refuse to downgrade the core number of my workstation and gaming machine for the Latin america 5500x3d
viscrivodallufficio@reddit
I had to get a 5700X3D @ 170€ because the cheapest 5800X3D was (still is) 400+€
jbourne0129@reddit
wasnt the launch price of the 5800x3d over $400 as it is? i dont expect this to suddenly be cheaper than the original.
imaginary_num6er@reddit
Could still have a $800 MSRP
Dear-Regret-9476@reddit
It’s me
DistinctAnimator8560@reddit
my 14600k was $150 beats this and came with bf6
azeunkn0wn@reddit
Good news for me. I need 2 of those.
realPoxu@reddit
FX-8350X3D when?! /s
But seriously, I'd be SO curious!
Terrh@reddit
the FX-8350 aged so well.
Yeah it was shit to begin with but here we are 14 years later and my wife still uses hers for vrchat and web browsing and stuff. Only upgrade that computer has ever got was a $199 video card (rx 580) 10 years ago. Not bad for a $600 PC. Not bad at all. Going to replace it some soon, but it's lived a real long life for a "temporary" PC budget build.
ComplexEntertainer13@reddit
It really didn't. While it may have outperformed it's contemporaries with fewer cores in some newer titles. It for the most part still performs like shit in those games.
Meanwhile a old 2500K with moderate OC is still dominating it in those titles that scales poorly with core count.
Terrh@reddit
Why is everyone like this?
did I say it was the best CPU ever?
no.
I said it aged well. Becasue it did.
ComplexEntertainer13@reddit
It did not.
Because by the time those extra cores were starting to be taken advantage of. It was so far behind on per core performance. That the performance you actually got out of it is sub par.
It delivered bad performance then. It delivers bad performance now. That is delivers slightly less bad performance than a 2600K (in some instances) is completely irrelevant. Because both delivers near unusable performance across the board today.
Terrh@reddit
Except that a 2600K system cost more to build.
And that my wife doesn't use it for just gaming, in fact she primarily uses it for things other than gaming, and always has, and those core counts always helped.
And the fact that she's still using it today and it still works "ok" (though is getting replaced this year) whereas my old i7-2620m thinkpad struggles to even open a web browser now is even more proof of that.
chapstickbomber@reddit
I was just thinking about how a 4.5GHz 2500k is now completely mogged by my phone
goodnames679@reddit
Wish my PSU hadn’t fried my old 3930k. I’m really curious how it’d handle modern gaming.
dparks1234@reddit
16GB of RAM with an i5 2500K or even an i3 4130 probably would have provided a better average gaming experience over the regular lifespan of the system. By 2019 there were way better CPUs like the Ryzen 1600AF for $85 MSRP.
GN had their FX 8350 revisit a few years back and even in multithreaded games like The Division 2 it was barely outperforming a stick Broadwell-tier Ryzen 1200 despite a 4.7Ghz OC with maxed out DDR3 2400mhz. The 1% lows were also way worse.
I’m a bulldozer hater
Terrh@reddit
Yeah but they cost way more
I'd hope so, it was a 7 year old CPU at that point.
phate_exe@reddit
Thuban was peak AM3. A Phenom II X6 running at 3.9-4GHz held onto relevance way longer than it had any right to.
asfsdgwe35r3asfdas23@reddit
It aged way worse than contemporary CPUs such as the i7 3770K. Even trough at the time everybody was saying that it would age better because it had 8 true cores while the i7 had “fake cores”.
Terrh@reddit
Yeah the i7-3770K that cost twice as much?
Of course that aged bettter, it was a high end CPU, not a low end one.
dparks1234@reddit
Ironic considering the court case over the FX’s shared-hardware “cores” and Windows 8+ eventually changing to report them as 4C/8T CPUs.
realPoxu@reddit
I bought it instead of the i5-2500k and ended up being a bit regretful.
But yeah it was like 80$, served me well until I got my R7 1700, which also served me very well for 7 more years, until I got my 265K.
All three have been a workhorse for productivity, so I can't complain!
Terrh@reddit
I think if you wanted to do any sort of higher end gaming and weren't going to be limited by the video card, it was a bad choice.
But for low end, it was hard to beat. Especially as it aged and having more cores became relevant.
MWink64@reddit
I'm looking forward to the K6-III+X3D.
FunCalligrapher3979@reddit
but why? fx was horrible for gaming.
ElementII5@reddit
Bi V-Cache curious?
viladrau@reddit
He's just confused. There is a special camp for people like him.
realPoxu@reddit
I think you are more suited than I ;)
mBertin@reddit
Looking forward to the Phenom II X4 965X3D Black Edition
Echo8ERA@reddit
C'mon, show TRX40 some love too
big_millennial96@reddit
I JUST bought my bf a 5800xt literally on Monday after waiting for months for a 5800x3d to become available. I read that they'd stopped producing it and just settled for the 5800xt and now I'm seeing this.
Vertigo_HTM@reddit
AMD 5800x3d anniversary edition $499 special! Lisa loves your 💰💸
GovernmentSimilar558@reddit
Lisa........we need R9 5950x3D2, please make one
dc_IV@reddit
10 Years!!!! Each year has 365 days on average, so that will be $3,650 MSRP!
TopCaterpillar4695@reddit
I doubt it will bek cheaper. Hopefully it at least tanks the price of used ones.
caribbean_caramel@reddit
AM4 will still be relevant in 2030, mark my words.
ConsistencyWelder@reddit
AM4 was released in 2016, so it has a 10 year anniversary this year and will probably still be supported for a while yet.
Meanwhile we have Intel saying that they "want to" support their sockets for more than 2 CPU's.
ConsistencyWelder@reddit
Just wanted to point out that Hardware Unboxed has had a campaign recently for AMD to bring back the 5800X3D, with a series of videos retesting it and comparing it to newer CPU's. Looks like they succeeded. Thanks HUB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7Au9Lb5Kw4
ConsistencyWelder@reddit
Perfect. Just what we need right now that DDR5 is out of reach for so many of us. Damn good job AMD, but it's probably going to be a limited run, I would preorder if I really want one.
Elijah1573@reddit
So excited for this
If the memory prices werent so horrible right now id just upgrade straight to a AM5 system but until the prices stabilize being able to upgrade to a 5800X3D will tide me over until then
happy_oblivion@reddit
This shit is off the fucking chain.
iMoac@reddit
A friend sold me recently his old mini itx am4 build for around 300 euro. - x570i - 32gb cl18 ram - 3950X
… if they price the 5800x3D right I might upgrade. Not that the 3950X is bad, seem it has better use for those in need of 32 cores.
Idk what I could sell the 3950X for … but hope it can recoup some of the cost.
Ok-Prize6710@reddit
was wondering if I should get this? Currently on a 5950x I got about 2 years ago. Is the performance boost in-game worth the $300-$500 this will probably be?
2006pontiacvibe@reddit
Thought this was a satirical article
If it's a decent price I'm down to upgrade my 5600g
ParagonRenegade@reddit
my 🐐
tbh the greatest CPU in the past decade
NoMechanic6746@reddit
5800X3D back it's cool for nostalgia, I know hardware is expensive today, but I’d like a lower price \~350-$400. I used one of those years ago, good stuff but today you have lot of options and after all, it’s the 10th Anniversary!
M337ING@reddit
Pathetic that we’re glorifying and reselling old technology.
letsgoiowa@reddit
Nah this is still competitive performance lol
M337ING@reddit
Because your standards for technology advancement have fallen that low.
letsgoiowa@reddit
My standards? You mean benchmarks
kywri@reddit
It released 4 years ago
NeroClaudius199907@reddit
Its not going to be high volume. Giving option for consumers to upgrade is good actually
HairyPoot@reddit
Saves alot of people from having to upgrade their entire PC. The 5800x3d is still a highly performant CPU. If you can spend a couple hundred to get that and revive or extend the life of a build that is great compared to spending $500+ on RAM for an all new build.
Benji998@reddit
It sounds like it's coming out at launch prices? I think that's a bit too steep for me. I'm waiting for am6 and would consider it for the right price but if it's 450 USD or somethint nah.. I have a 5600x.
OpinionRealistic7376@reddit
Hope this release is not just for China, I can guarantee that it will sell in the UK & other places.
Financial-Corgi-7440@reddit
Beats going to AM5 platform and paying for DDR5 memory LOL
cottonycloud@reddit
Bought a 5900XT for about $250 after missing out on the 5700X3D deals damn.
Broksonn@reddit
Brother i was looking for a used 5800x3d, gave up, bought 5800xt, and as i was installing it today i saw this article bruh. Though im sure the price they'll want for it will be ridiculous so no biggie.
aigoo@reddit
Hopefully it's not $400. I could use an upgrade for my 5800x.
Luxuriosa_Vayne@reddit
if its good price I'll upgrade my brother's 5600 altho that was only 86 euros when going from 2600 🤔
st0mpeh@reddit
Any chance, being a newer pressing, that it'll be more overclockable?
PM_ME_YOUR_BOEING777@reddit
an extra 100MHz and name it 5810X3D wouln't hurt
Bonafideago@reddit
5850X3D
Or 5800XT3D
ash_ninetyone@reddit
This kinda reminds me of when Intel did an i7 8086K cpu.
A last gen offering
dTmUK@reddit
Take my money! Still on 3700X lol
SwiftAndDecisive@reddit
Meanwhile I had been using my 57x3d purchased at 140USD, for 21 months already.
okaycomputes@reddit
this is good because then I can finally afford a 5700x3d after someone upgrades
2700x currently but not pressed to upgrade in this market
Framed-Photo@reddit
I upgraded my 2700x to a 5600 a few years ago, and then upgraded that 5600 to a 5700x3d when that was out.
Honestly, a 5700x or a 5800xt for your system would be a pretty great upgrade for not that much money. If you're purely gaming and don't care about multicore performance then a 5500x3d off aliexpress is the best option. You know, unless this 5800X3D is actually available for a reasonable price.
Soggy-Airline@reddit
Oh damn, should I replace my 5900x with this? Gaming and Video Editing (but my video editing workflow is 1080p footage at most).
Rjman86@reddit
since ddr4 is much easier to get right now than ddr5, it would be interesting to see Intel also bring back 14th gen in a "we promise it doesn't kill itself" edition, or maybe in the rumored 8p0e/10p0e core counts.
HyruleanKnight37@reddit
5800X3D 5850X3D, with a slightly higher boost? 5950X3D with one X3D and one non-X3D CCDs?
The possibilities are endless...
Gwolf4@reddit
At this point I am never sunsetting my build. I got "stuck" in a 5700x and when I had the money to upgrade to it's 3d, it becomes unavailable for my region.
Livid_Cry6346@reddit
I am expecting a 270 doller price point.
Possible-Put8922@reddit
Microcenter rubbing their hands behind a tree in a yellow suit
ThickSky@reddit
I currently have a 5700X3D but I might pickup a 5800X3D depending on its release price
ThePizzaDeliveryM3n@reddit
I'm on a 5700x3d. Should I switch?
CoconutMochi@reddit
I don't know if you'd even be able to tell the difference without spending an hour staring at frametime graphs or something, unless you're playing games that aren't gpu limited.
Gippy_@reddit
Difference is 400MHz, so 10%. That's on the border of being noticeable if the game is hovering around 60 fps. But if the game's already running at 200+ fps then it doesn't make much of a difference.
Fauked@reddit
not really worth it. just save for the next gen x3d when it comes
693275001@reddit
Hope the price is decent
andromorr@reddit
I have the 5800X3D paired with a 4090, and a 5700X3D paired with a 3090. These are so good, and can run any game I want at any settings I want. I have no reason to upgrade even though I'm a few generations behind (which is just as well because I don't want to go bankrupt)
Pancakejoe1@reddit
Close enough, welcome back Core i7 2600k
Apprehensive_Air1705@reddit
I have a 5800x3d, I don’t ever want to get rid of it. I might need to upgrade my graphics card at some point, but my 3060TI is still doing fine for now.
Cheeze_It@reddit
Use one in my server. It's still quite impressive. Especially from the performance per watt perspective.
Sweet-Sale-7303@reddit
I have this processor running in my current desktop. Seems like I might be dealing with it for a while longer. lol
7silverlights@reddit
Nice maybe it means 120 dollar 5700x3ds appear on aliexpress again.
Dynablade_Savior@reddit
this is fucking awesome
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