Upgraded from 3080ti to 5070
Posted by Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit | buildapc | View on Reddit | 295 comments
Hello, just wanted to post my experience from upgrading RTX 3080TI to RTX 5070.
At first I was very sceptical, because all of reviews were stating that they have same perfomances BUT at least for me that ain't the truth.
DLSS, RAY TRACING/RECONSTRUCTION even PATH TRACING, they really all work better on 5070.
I won't even mention FG with NVIDIA Latency option, It is a game changer really.
For eg. Cyberpunk 2077 now works even better with the same if not better settings. Turned on DLAA instead of Quality, PATH TRACING, and FG x2, no Input lag and very smooth experience, FPS is between 100-150.
That gap between 100 and 150 is unnoticeable.
Crimson Desert with FG x3 went from 50 with Ray Reconstruction to over 200 which only suggests that even base fps is higher with 5070 in some games, in this case Crimson Desert.
Again, no input lag, very very smooth.
SO, if anyone is asking themselves should they switch from 3080TI to 5070, they should.
I wont even mention temperatures which are ridiculously low. Consider that I have Helios II which has tempered glass on all sides even in front of a mesh and intake coolers.
CD and CP didn't cross the 65 degrees, its usually around 60-63.
Patryllo25@reddit
People also missing a big point... 250w TDP vs 350w TDP, you got way better performance on the 5070 with using FG while paying less for the electricity bill, 100w less daily for a year will be very visible, it's not all about raw power nowadays.
snusmumrikan@reddit
Lol at current power rates in the UK then having the GPU running at max for 8h will save 18p.
So you're right. This GPU upgrade will pay for itself in just less than a decade.
Puiucs@reddit
you can undervolt the 3080ti to around 300W TDP while maintaining or getting better FPS.
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
downvote me as you want, but this is kinda waste of money. upgrading from 3080 ti to 5070 isn't that such a big upgrade that worth the money, I would rather save a few more months and get 5080.
sorry to say it and enjoy downvoting.
IllRadish8765@reddit
I wouldn't consider this an upgrade at all. It's a side grade since they're basically comparable. OP basically paid whatever the cost of a 5070 is to get DLSS. I would have at least gone with a 5070 Ti.
Ensaum@reddit
Yeah, I have a 3080ti and 5080 is the minimum I would consider upgrading too, and even that doesn't really seem worth it.
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
I have a 5080 and love that beast, but honestly, probably does not worth it in your case. I came from a 3060 ti, so 100 % worth it, but in your case ... but at least it would not be a waste of money like OP case.
Puiucs@reddit
definitely not worth it. i expect more from a GPU upgrade.
Shwifty_Plumbus@reddit
My brother bought a 5070 and has a 3080. But he was just building another downstairs computer for living room gaming so him and his wife could play whatever they wanted.
Octaive@reddit
To say it is a side grade is to say the capabilities of each card are the same.
They don't handle DLSS the same, they don't handle RT the same, and there's literally zero quality FG on the 3080Ti.
Is it a proper upgrade? Not really, but it's not a side grade.
SoMass@reddit
As someone who upgraded their wife’s PC from a 3080 to a 5070, it’s an upgrade.
Wattage went from 280-300+ to 130-200. Temps from 70’s to 50’s. Frames and lows got way better too comparatively. Sold 3080 for $300 and paid like $120 for the upgrade which came with better features.
People think an upgrade needs to be 300+ frames at 8K without “fake frames” or it isn’t worth it. That’s part of the modern problem is the thought that every PC needs to be a 5080+9850x3D minimum or it’s not good enough.
Hetstaine@reddit
Yep. I went 3080 to 5070ti and huge difference. Temps, fps, power usage. Sold the 3080 for 500 (aus $) couldn't be happier.
IllRadish8765@reddit
Raw performance is basically the same. Paying hundreds of dollars for AI upscaling isn't personally worth it to me but you can do whatever you want with your money.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
It's 2026. Raw performance has never been less relevant. DLSS is here to stay. I'm always surprised at the deniers.
coolboy856@reddit
Raw power kind of ties into everything 😳
Diedead666@reddit
I think people who think frame gen is a replacement for raw performance are people using controller. You can feel it with mk a lot more
KegBreath@reddit
No where near as much as these subs will insist. If you have the horsepower to properly run FG and still think it's an unplayable latency increase on MK, I'm going to assume you're fooling yourself.
Diedead666@reddit
Majority of the time it doesn't effect me in marvel rivals playing as Ironman in heavy firefights it sometimes dips where I feel it, I do understand not wanting to use it with hitscan weapons. It does help smoothness a lot.
Important_Sea_1136@reddit
You're not really supposed to use frame gen in multiplayer games where input latency actually matters.
RumbleTheCassette@reddit
It does, but it's also fair to say that it matters relatively less than it did, say, ten years ago. Certainly it shouldn't be the only metric someone looks at when deciding what card to buy.
Octaive@reddit
Exactly and it's surprising seeing how little people understand DLSS and the real world advantages. A 5070 doesn't perform like a 3080Ti in practice.
KegBreath@reddit
Your down votes show how little folks are willing to accept change. DLSS is incredible and while I think using those stats in comparisons can be slightly disingenuous, it doesn't change the fact that it truly is a game changer, has been for a while, and the old heads are upset about it.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
Downvotes just make me giggle. Nvidia own 90% of the gaming gpu market, and a lot of these fanboys need to wake up.
KegBreath@reddit
For a reason. They're superior cards full stop. It's not worth buying a 5070 when you have a 3080ti imo but man the number of folks I see who buy Nvidia and play native is shockingly high.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
I'd happily trade my 3080ti for a 5070. But am holding out for 6xxx. Though if DLSS 5 really lands later this year then I may just jump ship to a 5080.
KegBreath@reddit
You had me until the excitement for DLYaSS. Fuck that filter shit.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
Filter shit, lol. From the videos I've seen, games finally dont loon flat. Oblivion remastered looked alive!
KegBreath@reddit
Yeah, it definitely didn't look alive before lol okie dokes
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
I had to uninstall it. Looks like shit currently.
KegBreath@reddit
Troll, got it.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
Eh?
Have you even played it?
KegBreath@reddit
...yeah. like 80 hours. It looks ridiculously good, I don't need what is basically a reshade to blow out the contrast and fuck with intended lighting. I love DLSS and FG, but what I saw of 5 just kills artistic intent.
"But the devs signed off on it" no, they didn't. The publishing studios did.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
Oh right, fair enough. Glad you think it looks good. I only managed a few hours as it looked flat and shite to me. World felt a bit dead too, but DLSS5 can't solve that.
Will be re-installing it when DLSS5 lands. By that time im hoping the mod scene has also matured (was barely alive when I played it)
KegBreath@reddit
Unfortunately (as far as I know anyway) the weird Creation/Unreal engine hybrid the remake runs on makes modding a huge pain in the dick. It's a shame but at least mods like Ascension seemed to translate well.
ButterscotchTop194@reddit
Ahh yeah, forgot the devs did a frankenstein.
daijiro8@reddit
Your going to get downvoted by people that overspent unnecessarily on GPUs in this sub who can't see the value of the lesser cards and how far dlss has come.
KegBreath@reddit
To be fair I bought a 4080 Super FE for msrp at launch so I don't have a low end card, but I know for a fact from real world hands on experience that the 70 and 16gb 60ti variants still kick dicks if properly utilized.
Imagine not using the features you bought a particular brand of card for. It's baffling
spybehindyou99@reddit
raw performance has been the same for a while. new cards consume more and have better software, their efficiency has barely increased
Puiucs@reddit
that's not an excuse to pay 700 $ for nothing but a small software update.
slapshots1515@reddit
That assumes you’re just sitting on the old card and not selling it, which would be silly.
I mean I didn’t do this upgrade, but I do run at 4k and have two rigs. I upgraded the 4k rig from a 3090 to a 5080 that I got for $1100 and sold the 4070S that I lucked into in the second system for $600. The 5080 is a significant upgrade in gaming performance at 4k for $500. It’s not just a “small software update”, it makes a big difference.
The key to all of this, as with most hardware, is it depends on what you’re doing. Not running at 4k? Your requirements are lower. Not doing video editing, AI, whatever? Your requirements are lower. Don’t have the extra money for the performance? Doesn’t make sense to do.
Puiucs@reddit
are you suggesting that he sold his old card fast and a price that make sense to buy the 5070... in today's market?
slapshots1515@reddit
Sure am. I’m not sure why that’s so unbelievable “in today’s market.” A 3080 ti is easy to sell.
Puiucs@reddit
nobody is paying for a 3080ti a price that is close to an 5070. there's usually a more than 200$ difference looking at ebay prices.
slapshots1515@reddit
Almost like I said it’s a couple hundred dollar upgrade in my original post as opposed to the $700 you said.
Puiucs@reddit
it's still a 700$ GPU for no actual gains. reselling the old GPU does not change that.
slapshots1515@reddit
Welp, we’ll have to disagree on a mathematical basis there.
KegBreath@reddit
That's simply not true. My 4080 Super beats the previous flagship, 3090ti, by roughly 15% in raw raster and consumes significantly less power. That's by definition far better efficiency.
ZlatanKabuto@reddit
It's not worth FOR YOU.
IllRadish8765@reddit
How are you able to type when you can't even read.
no6969el@reddit
This is insane because I have a laptop and I was running in the hotel some games and I could not get it to be enjoyable without turning on dlss.
So it's either you're going to ignore that and just be mad that they didn't increase the actual GPU power and instead relied on AI. That's a fair assessment.
But to say that the upgrade is worthless is dumb because you are getting more performance regardless if it's AI or natively ran.
quietlydesperate90@reddit
Sad world we are in if people are buying cards for better frame gen...
Puiucs@reddit
it's 100% just a side-grade.
Low_Key_Trollin@reddit
Some dude just gave his first hand experience of how it was a significant noticeable upgrade and you’re just going to deny that entirely and call it side grade. What kinda logic is that
Luckyirishdevil@reddit
Homeboy gave his first hand experience with frame gen. The raster is very similar. This is a side grade with added goodies.
Low_Key_Trollin@reddit
The “added goodies” are insanely good tech and well worth the upgrade price it is IN NO WAY a side grade. You’re all just stuck in past with your rasterization metrics. Nobody gives a fuck how they get more frames other a few salty tech nerds
Puiucs@reddit
because what he wrote makes zero sense. and objectively it's a side-grade.
Manginaz@reddit
Right, like why would a person lie on the internet after buying something that didn't meet their expectations?
Formal-Mechanic-9392@reddit
I had some guy trying to take me over a similar take. Said a 3080ti was obsolete lol. Sure my 5070ti performs a little better but it might be a 20% upgrade.
I upgraded to a 5070ti but only because I found at MSRP and my kid was ready for an upgrade from his 1660ti. Otherwise I would not have upgraded this gen.
Towel4@reddit
My EVGA 3090 died yesterday.
I never thought I’d be considering a 50 series card, especially after the insane increases in price.
Alas, I am living in a modern PC building hell.
Diedead666@reddit
It's a ok upgrade for playing single player games for frame gen but theirs ways to get frame generation working with mods for amd options..I did end up going from 3080 to 4090 and that's was a huge upgrade especially if you use a mouse and keyboard. I have 3080 in living room now and it's still decent with a controller but the vram is a huge issue with UE5 games if u like the graphics high. It's very good for 1080p but noone who bought one got it for that. AMD is better buy if u want raw performance. The market is screwed for anything adorable. I got very lucky with my timing with 4090.
TITANS4LIFE@reddit
Well good news. I initially went to sell my 3090. Then decided against it but it's still listed at 950. And I get about 5 offers a day for it at list price. So if you do decide to sell.
tO_ott@reddit
Everyone seems to be forgetting about the incredible advance in tech. NVIDIA makes it a FOMO thing, but stuff like frame generation makes it worth the cost. Same reason people used to advocate a card that offered DLSS support over a card that didn't a few generations ago, even if raster was about the same.
You really need to try it to see and clearly the OP did, because they mention it specifically a few times.. and was promptly ignored.
Puiucs@reddit
he was ignored because it made zero sense.
tO_ott@reddit
What a loser thing to say. If you can’t afford to upgrade, so be it, but OP can and did. And they’ve introduced advanced gpu software into their hardware that’ll give that card the edge in future games.
You losers also cried about DLSS so it’s all moot
Justhe3guy@reddit
Wouldn’t be me who was wanting a 6080 to upgrade from my 3080 until the delay happened…think I’ll still wait
PlayfulMulberry4490@reddit
You’re kind of a waste of space
sanesame@reddit
yeah the whole post is trying to justify it being worth it
forso_@reddit
i really don't know how you would consider that your comment deserved a downvote so i gave you one but just you say that i could could have go the way you though about " don't say to me what to do " so fuck the others if they don't understand that your comment is on point : this is not a real upgrade less if you only want new tech as the raw perf of both is like the same and the second cost more. Have a good day and a big hug.
UltraconservativeSin@reddit
What would be the reasonable upgrade from a 3080? Genuine question
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
5080 at least anything else is just wasting your money because 3080TI is already good.
UltraconservativeSin@reddit
Cool, I just have a standard 3080 and I was looking around for a new gpu but im not as savvy as I should be. Thank you for the input
NexusTR@reddit
You are completely correct, this is an ad to get people to sell the 3080s lol.
PogTuber@reddit
More people should check for used 3080s. I sold mine for $330
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Would a 3080 or 3080ti be better than a 5060ti new?
digitalsmear@reddit
Get the 3080ti if you can - the extra little bit of vram is worth it, but even the 3080 would be better than the 5060.
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Yeah gonna save up while hopefully the prices keep dropping. Seeing listings for mostly like 500 bucks and up right now
digitalsmear@reddit
Keep your eyes on ebay. Sometimes you find crazy deals. I almost bought a 3090 the other day because the price was really really reasonable, but I don't actually need it so I resisted. 😂
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Yeah I'll keep my eyes peeled. Back before this entire debacle I was actually saving for a 200 dollar 2080ti but by the time I got the money for it they ended up being 400 bucks 😭
peterparker9894@reddit
Yup even the regular 3080 is a bit faster than the 5060ti but you have to take power consumption into account imo 3080's are rated at like 300w+ alternatively if you can go with amd get the regular 9070, depending on where you live it costs a bit more than the 5060ti and is faster than a 5070/3090(in most cases).
Diedead666@reddit
Vram is a big issue for new games at higher resolution for my 3080 rig but any card with lower vram will have that issue
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Tbh the only reason I'm sticking with green team is because Davinci Resolve has a hard on for Nvidia cards. When you say power consumption, you mean the ti is more or less efficient than the non-ti? And assuming I'm upgrading from a regular 1080 do you think I'd need a new power supply?
peterparker9894@reddit
3080 ti has a peak power draw of around 360w for the standard version factory oc versions have a a bit higher tdp but the main thing is cards like this have a huge power spikes which if you have an older or a lower tier psu can end badly(ask me how I know lmao).
GolldenFalcon@reddit
sigh need to save more money for a new PSU
PogTuber@reddit
Note that the 3080 was great for undervolting with a memory clock increase.
I lost maybe 1-2fps but power draw was down to 240W on my 3080
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Is the same possible with the ti?
PogTuber@reddit
Probably. Would have to check what people are getting for results but the theory is the same.
Even my 5070Ti does great with undervolting, lose only a couple fps but Max power draw is down from 300W to 230W.
GroceryLonely8731@reddit
3080ti is on par with the 5070 on raw raster.
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Guess I'm keeping my eye on eBay.
GroceryLonely8731@reddit
Yep you definitely should my mate got one for $250 in fb marketplace.
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Don't give me hope 🥺
GroceryLonely8731@reddit
Although be careful while choosing the PSU his 80ti consumes similar power to my 5080.
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Jesus do you think it wouldn't be plug and play if I replaced my 1080?
GroceryLonely8731@reddit
I would recommend atleast a 750w psu, although 850w would definitely be safer.
GolldenFalcon@reddit
Time to save even more 😭
Hucksterprattler1@reddit
He could sell his 3080 ti to cover a good portion of the cost. I would have considered a 9070xt. Personally i could never go backwards. My upgrade path was 2060 Super to a 4080 super. 7800xt to a 7900xtx. I wouldn't want to go backwards. I agree, 5080 would have made more sense. Too bad you can't get a 5090 for $2k anymore. I regret not getting it when i had the opportunity.
KegBreath@reddit
I'd say even a 5080 is a hard sell with current pricing. It doesn't even beat a 4090 and it's currently selling for 4090 MSRP. That is ridiculous.
diasporajones@reddit
Idk why OP posted this here instead of selling their testimonial to Nvidia directly
PrettyBaker2891@reddit
he can easily sell the 3080 ti for like 400$ and a new 5070 is 500-550$
100$ is worth it for the small boost and better rt/dlls/fg features
plus u get a completely new card with fresh warranty
imlost19@reddit
Yeah, seriously. I sold my 3090 for $1000. Bought a 5080 for $1250. $250 upgrade and I'm getting like 20-30 more frames in cyberpunk with most the Ray tracing settings maxed. Definitely worth it considering I bought the 3090 for $1500 in like early 2021.
DJ_Sippycup@reddit
This. Everyone's acting like he threw away the 3080 ti. In reality he's basically trading it + $100 for a more efficient version
Puiucs@reddit
that 100$ is BS. the 5070 is a lot more than that :)
noiserr@reddit
5080 isn't a good buy. I'd honestly just keep the 3080ti and wait for the next gen.
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
right now ? maybe, honestly IDK the prices. bought it at 1099€ on the release day.
Puiucs@reddit
even at 1099€ it wasn't a good buy because of the 5070ti.
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
lol
tyrion83@reddit
I've gone from 3080 Ti to 5070 Ti with 10-13 % overclock in 4k165hz and it was a huge upgrade.
5070 isn't bad tho , mfg is quite amazing
Puiucs@reddit
in this context it is bad :)
Patryllo25@reddit
It is.. if you also do video editing, difference is massive.
Puiucs@reddit
not really. the big difference starts with the 5070ti where you get 2 media engines, compared to just 1 on the 5070. he's not even getting more VRAM :)
Everborn128@reddit
5070ti would been worth it but that's the minimum, 5070 isn't worth it
FullHouse222@reddit
I'm with you. 3080ti owner here and not interested in upgrading any time soon. Unless I'm looking 5080 or better (which I'm not) it just doesn't feel worth it
TobysGrundlee@reddit
Maybe if you throw the 3080ti in the trash afterwards. If you sell it, like most people do, the upgrade isn't that expensive.
F1T_13@reddit
Eh, a 5080 is not a few more months of saving over a 5070 for everyone. Though in principle I agree with your point.
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
depends if you are an adult with a job or a 16 y old student.
LeftTip1090@reddit
You're being upvoted to Saturn!!
Loose-Ad-9884@reddit
You can’t help people with victim complexes
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
well, usually when I say the hard truth it goes other way.
MorkSal@reddit
I'd go one further.
I would be waiting for another generation or so.
russsl8@reddit
Nah, you're right. I have a 5080 right now because it was the only upgrade that made sense from my 3080 Ti
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
I have a 5080 and upgraded from 3060 ti. Would never in my live upgrade 3060 ti for 5070, 3080ti is even crazy thing to do.
dayglo98@reddit
OP : I did X upgrade and I'm really feelin' it !
Random Nerd :tHis iS nOt aN upGRade !
whybethisguy@reddit
Poor people coping and jealous, it's nothing new
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
this is like those idiots that buy iPhone pro Max every single year, lose 600 $ or so in the trade and think they are upgrading. Liking it or not, it is what it is.
5070 is not that superior to 3080 ti to spend that money. it's simple as that.
dayglo98@reddit
What money ? We don't even know how much OP paid for the 5070 and how he/she could sell the 3080Ti
JGuih@reddit
Here I'm using a 3080 playing at upscaled 4k with DLSS on a LG C1 and have a total of 0 complaints. I don't know when I'll be upgrading, but not anytime soon, maybe 2030 or later. It's wild to me that people will even consider upgrading a card that is even better than the standard 3080
KegBreath@reddit
I've been told my 4080 Super is a paperweight now that the 50 series exists. PC people, much like every other expensive hobbyists, are elitist. They're no better than ski bums. It's honestly kind of silly how similar they are when it comes to gear.
PearlJamTenGoat@reddit
I wasn't being elitist at all, I was even saying his 3080 card is tottally fine compared to what he spent for the 5070.
people just don't understand entry level - mid level - high level in these terms and this does not change much across generations.
BossHogGA@reddit
Im on a 10GB 3080 running at 2k and have no plans to upgrade. Not only is my system fine for anything I want to play, but the upgrade doesn’t seem compelling for a few more FPS. I likely won’t plan to upgrade until this AI crisis abates or my card fails.
spitsfire223@reddit
I have a 6800xt on a 1440p UW and I dont intend on upgrading until I can get atleast double the performance for what I paid for this card ($500-600) .dlss quality would immediately make this 30% faster with no hit to graphics 9.5/10 times.
Critical_Hit777@reddit
Also on a 10GB 3080.
The only game I have that struggles is the Oblivion remaster, though 30-40fps in busy areas at 2k Ultra/high and DLSS balanced is not absurdly terrible but would be nice to get more, being honest.
Otherwise, I'll only upgrade for a specific game.
Space Marine 2, my current, plays fantastically well at 2k Ultra, minus some textures for the VRAM. Around 120fps, even in demanding sections.
No need to upgrade yet.
ego100trique@reddit
Tbf the post sounds like an AI generated slop advertisement written by an Nvidia shill
123_alex@reddit
Unfortunately, not. Nvidia are selling everything they make. They don't need advertising. There really are people paying 1000 for a lateral move. GPU prices will never come down because we are morons.
bombastic6339locks@reddit
Why though. Its spending money for a tiny upgrade. I'd just get a 5070ti or 5080 etc.
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
5070ti is above 1200€ here in Serbia. I won't even speak about 5080
123_alex@reddit
How much did you pay for the 5070? How much can you get for the 3080ti?
gamerx11@reddit
"just get" like it isn't $1000 for a 5070 ti. Prices are inane
Chowder110@reddit
Prices for 5080 is actually lower than release. Started off at 1900. I just bought one for 1200
123_alex@reddit
Just use the 3080ti for zero
gamerx11@reddit
I agree. A waste on the 5070 to begin with.
KegBreath@reddit
5070 is a solid card at MSRP, IF you can get one and you're building a first rig and it fits your budget. I wouldn't call it a waste.
Puiucs@reddit
even at MSRP it was not a good value GPU.
KegBreath@reddit
How? Explain. It's a mid range card that launched with a similar msrp for the last 3 gens of 70 class cards that is better than all of them. Much like the 4070 Super It's the best value card this gen.
Puiucs@reddit
"better value"
it's just an 4070 super with 50$ off the MSRP, and before it launched the 4070 Super was cheaper (some models were even on sale for under 500$), but Nvidia stopped production so it made the prices go back up.
f1rstx@reddit
Lmao
KegBreath@reddit
I'm still waiting how the 5070 is worse value and not worth msrp looking back at years of 70 cards.
Puiucs@reddit
i just explained. but you can't seem to read.
you were "sold" a fake MSRP and without any context of what the other GPUs were selling at at the time.
"5070 is objectively better than similar cards" - not when looking at historic prices for the 4070 super, the GPU it replaces.
KegBreath@reddit
The fuck you mean no one cares? The dollar is not worth as much. A 1080ti would have been a grand by today's standards. All these cards scale that way. At MSRP, in our current economy, the 5070 is objectively a great value card, for its time and looking back. It's not fucking hard to understand.
Do I wish it had more vram? Sure. But I'm not in the market nor am I in the business of wishing. The 5070 for 550 is bang for buck the best card you can buy right now if at msrp. Why is this controversial?
antCB@reddit
or a sensible upgrade?? I had a 2060 paired with a 5700x3d, and although FPS were fine in more demanding graphical games, the 5070 I upgraded to is just better.
And although I think it was expensive, it honestly doesn't feel that bad. Sure back in the day this would be a 300-500$ gpu
Yowomboo@reddit
Or sell the 3080ti and get the tiny upgrade for a few hundred?
The 5070 also consumes less power.
Puiucs@reddit
"tiny upgrade for a few hundred" - pff hahaha. thanks that made my day.
123_alex@reddit
Not sure where you live but where I'm from, a hundo is a lot. Also, I'm ok money wise and I would never pay a few hundred for a tiny upgrade. But that's just me.
bombastic6339locks@reddit
Thats literally what they already did by going from a 3080ti to a 5070. They paid for a tiny upgrade. If they're going to pay they could just pay a bit more and get a way better thing
Puiucs@reddit
"TINY" upgrade of a few hundred :)
KegBreath@reddit
For real. That card is still significantly better than what the majority of people play on.
KegBreath@reddit
PC enthusiasts assume everyone is willing to go along with the industry's extortion. I can afford a 5090, but I refuse to pay 4K for ANY graphics card. It could be silicone made from angelic magic and I still wouldn't drop 4K out of principle.
Not to mention my card still slaps what I want to play around so who cares.
BlastingStink@reddit
I'm not sure that spending $700 to "upgrade" from a 3080ti to a 5070 qualifies as "avoiding the industry's extortion".
KegBreath@reddit
Yeah, that's what I said, my dude. This gen (aside from the 5090) is both barely an upgrade over Ada and anywhere from 300-700 dollars more expensive than their predecessors. Anyone saying "just get the 5070 ti it's better" ignoring it costs roughly a grand now outside of PNY are exactly why these parasites can continue to extract our wealth.
BlastingStink@reddit
No, it isn't, my dude.
It's cool that we ultimately agree, but you were responding to a comment about the differences between a 5070 and a 5070ti. I brought it back to the difference between a 3080ti and and a 5070.
From reading the comment of yours that I originally replied to, it was hard to say whether or not you were against the so-called "upgrade" in the post. My comment was a clarification.
KegBreath@reddit
My bad, didn't know my dude would strike such a cord lol but yeah it's for sure a side grade for features and not at all a major upgrade.
BlastingStink@reddit
I've been on reddit for like 13 years, and basically every time I see "my dude" it's someone being snarky. I tend to throw it back reactively now.
Anyways, I had the thought earlier about the existence of Lossless Scaling and how OP spent $700 for a feature you can get on a $7 program. Lossless scaling certainly isn't as good, but having had 1st hand experience with it I can say it's perfectly fine.
KegBreath@reddit
Gotta say I love lossless for 60fps retro. Shit like Tropical Freeze at 120 or PrimeHack feel so good.
BlastingStink@reddit
I own the OG Dark Souls 1 on steam and that's locked to 30fps. I used LS to make it 60 and it felt perfectly fine. I noticed no input lag and very little artifacting.
My current setup has a 9060xt, so I get AMDs latest and greatest in FG. It's definitely better than LS, but not hundreds of dollars better.
I have encountered a couple games that totally break with FG, but that happens whether it's Lossless Scaling or the AMD shit.
Bhudda4K@reddit
Even the 5090 isn’t that much of an upgrade, if you’re comparing to 4090, only 27% faster on average at 4K. Compared to 3090 > 4090, which was over 60% faster for roughly the same price.
KegBreath@reddit
Yeah, for 500 dollars more at MSRP I agree. It's still the only card that has remotely enough generational uplift to seem worth it if you already have a higher end 30 or 40.
It's insane that my 4080 Super beats a 3090ti by ~15% and the 5080 beats mine by roughly the same and they still sell these overpriced "upgrades" like gangbusters.
fugly16@reddit
that $750 window to get one was pretty good tho
bombastic6339locks@reddit
Getting a 3080ti still costs money. I just dont understand getting a new gpu only for it to be a tiny upgrade. I upgrade / get a new pc like every 7 years and by the time im getting a new one my current one will already be tech junk.
Puiucs@reddit
it's even more insane to pay this much for a 5070 to gain no real performance increase :)
I_pity_the_aprilfool@reddit
There are different possible ways to avoid getting a tiny upgrade though, like not upgrading at all. If someone is dead set on upgrading though, it would be best to at least make the upgrade more noticeable.
Outside_Education686@reddit
They should get a 9070XT
Cleenred@reddit
You can get lossless scaling which will work nearly as good. Also you need at least 70fps for Frame Gen to not feel like a latency fest. 2x FG from 50 to 100fps feels dogshit unless you play with a controller. 3080ti to 5070 doesn't make any sense and that's coming from someone who went from 3080 to 5070ti, the difference was mainly power consumption but performance difference wasn't worth the price.
f1rstx@reddit
Lossless scaling is awful compared to FG
Octaive@reddit
The latency of 2x FG is not dogshit. This is misconfiguration.
PiotrekDG@reddit
What base frametimes are we talking? Might very well depend on the "twitchiness" of a given game and the quality of implementation.
Octaive@reddit
I think some people are running their GPUs to the extreme before enabling. I also think the mythos of the insane latency (which FSR is infamous for) somehow transfered to DLSS.
PiotrekDG@reddit
You still didn't say what kind of base frametimes you're talking about. Do you have some data to compare FG between DLSS and FSR?
Subjectively, I found DLSS FG acceptable in Cyberpunk and completely unplayable in Space Marine 2. Maybe it's got to do with 1% lows for me.
Octaive@reddit
Base engine latency varies significantly, also, latency with DLSS FG has dropped recently. I made a large topic about it and no one could contradict the claims. Being made with any real data.
In Pragmata, latency drops when FG is enabled, signalling that maybe reflex isn't on even when it says it is, but this also means on a 5070 vs 9070, that with FG on (even up to 4x), the 5070 will feel tighter than the 9070 with no FG at all. The gap in latency is large.
And it's well known that AMD has basically non functional latency reduction tech. Very unreliable, barely implemented. When it works its best its similar to reflex (falls short slightly) but generally it's non existent.
The situation with FG latency is not straight forward and 2x is basically free on 50 series GPUs for most games with good base latency and good base framerates.
PiotrekDG@reddit
How much how it dropped and with which driver? Do we have some good testing data before and after that shows this?
Octaive@reddit
Do you have a 50 series GPU? Go turn on a game. 4x has totally playable mouse latency even with a base FPS that was considered unworkable when it first released. Plenty of YouTubers have commented on the ultra low latency of even 4x FG, and it's why Nvidia is offering 5 and 6x, because they're totally playable now.
PiotrekDG@reddit
Give me the data. Show me. Prove your claims.
Octaive@reddit
Do it yourself. There's enough information out there and enough community consensus (just look for FG latency on r/Nvidia, I made a topic a little while ago).
https://youtu.be/kh1Vexm2kNk?t=391&si=w7n6VpHvvIZ1mZIq
This relationship exists in plenty of games, or at least turning on FG has almost no input penalty on the overlay nor perceptually.
Plenty of people have been noticing this. Games used to peak to 60ms with 4x regularly, not 6x stats in the high 40ms range.
No one was paying attention to this and recording it, only videos really exist. Someone would have to go back and do the hard work, but as you can see with this video, no penalty. AMD GPUs would run worse latency wise than 4x+ FG in comparison.
PiotrekDG@reddit
Nope, see, the burden of proof is on the person making claims. If you're unable to substantiate your claims, then please don't bother making them. Or at the very least, clearly mark that it's your personal, subjective, anecdotal evidence.
The guy in the video does not measure latency. To properly measure latency, you need precise timings of your input resulting in a certain output (on the screen or at least outputting video signal). If you want to see how to actually measure latency, check this channel.
Octaive@reddit
Cool, it's easy enough to see the latency, no need to gaslight man.
Burden of proof on me, but you're also being obtuse and lazy as hell.
PiotrekDG@reddit
Well, I don't know about "seeing" latency, but it's difficult to measure it. You have to remember that your personal experience is subject to biases like placebo effect or confirmation bias. It could be very well made up as well. That's why we strive for better, thanks to evidence we can remove or at least reduce the effects of our biases and prove some underlying "truth".
Octaive@reddit
And yeah, you can see latency. When it's bad enough, if you just unfocus your eyes and keep mouse and screen in view, you can see the disconnect.
PiotrekDG@reddit
I mean, yeah, you can designate an experiment where you observe someone else moving the mouse and see that it results in delayed camera movement, for example. But latency is much easier to perceive when you involve multiple senses of your own. When you move the mouse yourself, or you move your head in VR, or hear the delay between sound and image. In those situations, you don't see the latency, you experience or feel it.
Octaive@reddit
Sure, when the difference is miliseconds, you feel it.
I play bass and use a low latency DAW. There's latency, and I can hear my notes not syncing with my own fingers and the vibrations of my bass down to around 10ms. Luckily my DAW can do less.
I'm not latency insensitive, so this isn't something I'm imagining. I don't have the energy to do a Gamer's Nexus break down for the community, just to sound the alarm for someone else to look into it because it's not imagined. How much it's reduced is the question, but with the release of 6x being usable even with a 240hz container, I'm going to say it's tangible, but no hard numbers for you.
If you own a 50 series card it should be easy enough to dig in.
PiotrekDG@reddit
As far I know, you can dotch the app and just use the driver. It's easy enough to enable it, sure, but an actual setup that measure latency with high precision is not so easy, as presented in the channel I linked. Hopefully Battle(non)sense contributes to this topic at some point.
Octaive@reddit
For sure, more hard data is needed.
Octaive@reddit
I agree with all of this, but FG latency can easily be perceived, otherwise it'd be inconsequential and no one would have ever mentioned it.
I'm of the opinion people have been deceiving themselves on how much latency there is, but I've never denied it's there. The issue now is that Nvidia has done something. If you review latency benchmarks for release MFG vs 6x release, I think you can find some hard data. Having owned the card and monitored the PC metrics closely, they track with perception.
Is it hard science? Hell no, but the Nvidia metrics also aren't participating in gaslighting, they track with perception. 6x would have been laughably questionable with release 4x benchmarks for latency.
I had a ton of people validate this perception and I doubt its a mass psychosis event.
PiotrekDG@reddit
Please link it!
In general, with the same underlying principle of "holding" two frames and interpolating them, there shouldn't be a huge difference whether you're on 2x MFG or 20x MFG.
KegBreath@reddit
I'm pretty snobby in terms of mouse feel and even I hate when people claim 2X FG somehow makes inputs unplayable. It adds barely any latency. I'd honestly like to see results from a blind test with these folk.
Octaive@reddit
I have a 2.1 K/D in BF6 and haven't played the game for more than a couple of hours with 2x FG off out of a few hundred. People are just parroting what they hear.
KegBreath@reddit
Or they are convincing themselves they have literal superhuman reaction times so as to notice it. Nocebo effect in action.
rucekooker@reddit
no lossless scaling is not nearly as good as DLSS FG
smokingsquids@reddit
Don’t listen to anyone on this sub. People seem to think you need to waste all the money you have on a 5090 or it’s a waste. That’s a solid upgrade
andrewcnk@reddit
Coming from 1650 to 5070 😃
iiStryker@reddit
I went from a 3080ti to a 5070ti mostly for the AI benefits
No regrets
Gamers are too stupid to understand AI is the way forward because we’re near the end point of Moore’s law
Advancement is going to come more from the programming/software/tools side than silicon/hardware side
Bibab0b@reddit
"Stupid gamer" with rx 6800 here! New cards have not enough raw performance so i would be interested in upgrade and not enough vram to run AI properly. What the reason to buy anything above 5060 ti since 5070 have less vram and 5070 ti which cost as two 5060 ti also have only 16gb of vram?
iiStryker@reddit
You’re probably from a third world country too because most AMD players are because of Nvidia’s cost
Also You’re not the OP
OP is happy with their purchase
People don’t find value in others purchasing decisions because they don’t have their bank account
Youre poor and AMD is what you can afford and that’s fine
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123_alex@reddit
We deserve the shit Nvidia is doing to us. We're morons.
iiStryker@reddit
Nvidia is the only company advancing the home computer graphics technology in any meaningful way right now
There’s a reason they are top dog
They’re waaay ahead of AMD in every aspect and Intel is laughably sad
I had a 6800xt and it was unreliable garbage
Everyone is living on hopium when it comes to AMD graphics because they’re at least two full generations behind Nvidia technologically
Nesha96@reddit
Went from 3080 10gb to 5080 and no regrets this new 5-6x fg is black magic..Ofcourse in most of games i dont even use dlss just dlaa..
MarkedByNyx@reddit
“The gap between 100 and 159 is unnoticeable”
I just stopped reading here.
Impossible_Minimum64@reddit
I upgraded from 3070 to 5070. I see a big difference and i play on 4k 32inch oled.
Puiucs@reddit
Upgrading to get 3x FG is just makes zero sense.
And you are not running Cyberpunk with DLAA + Path Tracing + FG x2 enabled at 100-150FPS. Maybe with DLSS Quality enabled.
"NVIDIA Latency option" - you have that on the 3080ti too.
Stop making weird, nonsensical recommendations. It's a complete waste of money.
trouttwade@reddit
Idk man, on a 5070TI using DLAA, FG 2X, and path tracing I’m getting 240 fps everything else max.
Before I upgraded from a base 4070 I was getting 240 FPS using DLSS quality, FG 3X, and everything maxed without path tracing.
100 fps is very believable, 150 might be inflated but I don’t think that’s crazy to say.
Puiucs@reddit
most benchmarks show above 100 with DLSS set to quality on the 5070. not with DLAA.
trouttwade@reddit
Fair assessment friend
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
I will post pictures today.
MotherWarthog6181@reddit
The temperature difference between the 3080ti and a 5080 blew my mind.
3080ti was cooking, burning fingers level of heat. 5080 is slightly warm to touch under full load. Crazy.
MoobleBooble@reddit
The haters will hate but I did the same thing for my kids PC. I sold her 3080ti for $500 and got the 5070 FE for $550. Absolutely worth the lower thermals and access to dlss/frame gen improvements.
Puiucs@reddit
you think he sold his 3080ti for 500$? pfff hahaha
MoobleBooble@reddit
Not just OK but straight up a smart move. Now we also have a new warranty and the card uses less space than the 3080 ti did, allowing her to also move to a matx case. I realize the price went up for the 5070’s but I would imagine the price for 3080 ti have as well?
Healthy_Jellyfish292@reddit
This is dumb. I won't even mention what a waste of money it is. Oh, I did.
IllustriousPace8805@reddit
Why would you get a 5070 and not a 5070 ti or 5080 if youre already spending real money to replace a 3080 ti? You -actually- are wasting money.. all you had to do to make it worth it was wait 1 paycheck for a ti or 2 for a 5080.. instead you made the worst possible choice.
THXFLS@reddit
Meanwhile, I don't even want to upgrade my 3080 non-Ti to a 5080 because it's too slow and has too little VRAM.
ZaneThePain@reddit
This sub has been radicalized against the 5070. You get people that log on everyday to rail against any post about it. Personally, I’ve loved my 2 fan 5070 that replaced a 2080. It runs cooler, quieter, and significantly faster with everything I throw at in 1440p. I have zero complaints about mine.
Puiucs@reddit
why are you ignoring context?
EnvironmentHot7630@reddit
he just ragebaiting
AbanoMex@reddit
the 5070ti would be the better "upgrade", so i would advise the 5070 if you dont really want to spend that much, but also looking for a refresh
but yeah, honestly, people could easily sell the 3080 if they own one, at $300 or $350.
they would only have to invest around $200 for 5070, and in return they would have a nice refresh, low power consumption, much better dlss and frame gen. and +2gb vram (if they had the 3080 10gb).
and of course the extra hardware life span and support
Important_Sea_1136@reddit
The card also overclocks really well.
Most cards can do like +300-400 core and +2000-3000mhz mem.
WillPill_@reddit
Fr the hate is wild. The 5070 is the best deal on a 50 series card at the moment, 30% faster than the 5060ti and $400-500 cheaper than a 5070ti. With a slight undervolt the card rarely breaks 55C/150w while gaming.
alfiejr23@reddit
This, the blackwell cards efficiency is pretty darn good.
4K4llDay@reddit
Perfectly reasonable observations but your suggestion for others to upgrade is not genuine.
People should not spend hundreds of dollars on what is mostly a sidegrade. Upgrades should be reserved when a GPU offers substantial improvement in raw performance, FG excluded. I do consider tensor and HPC calculations to be improved performance, meaning ability to run AI rendering pipelines.
ZahidTheNinja@reddit
I would’ve just bought lossless scaling
sonic987@reddit
I got free upgrade from 3080 to 5070 via warranty claim.
Noticed 10 to 15 percent more performance. frame gen is nice but you will notce a loss in fluidity once original frames drops below 60(in steam you can display over lay which shows fg and fps separate 60 in real frames 120 in fake in 2x)
From 3080 ti i would recommend min 5070 ti or above if you have money to spare.
Dont buy 5070 not worth the upgrade you will hope to have.
LoneWanderer9700@reddit
He side graded and got frame gen thats it lol. That 10-15% increase is the same from the base 3080 to the 3080ti.
Old-Clock5872@reddit
Honestly the frame gen is there for the 3080Ti to use. XeFG is very competent.
Gnl_Winter@reddit
The hate about the 5070 is getting really weird. It's a good graphics card. Not the best, not the most optimal, but it obviously does much better than previous generations even with less VRAM. Sacrilege opinion. I know.
Xalkerro@reddit
Wtf kinda “upgrade” is this? I wont even call this an upgrade lol. Sounds like some bots planted by Nvidia goons to post this shite.
between3n20chars@reddit
Raw performance? Pretty much a side grade. Tech? Good upgrade. Energy saving? Big jump, 50% less power consumption, and it runs cooler. So, it's an upgrade overall.
inquisitor_pangeas@reddit
I'm loving my 5070 as well. Recently discovered the beauty of DLDSR mixed with DLSS. I am however still on 1080p so this magic makes sense
kamalamading@reddit
Can you still return it? If so, take the 5080, to make it at least make SOME sense
rucekooker@reddit
what was ur temps on ur 3080? on full load games and normal load games
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
Above 70
withoutapaddle@reddit
So, normal?
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
No not actually normal.
withoutapaddle@reddit
Oh, well 83 and "above 70" are very different things, IMO. I would say 80 isn't that big of a deal, but 83 is right around where I try to find ways to improve my cooling or reduce load.
Olsson91@reddit
Could’ve bought 9070xt aswell and saved some moneeyy
no6969el@reddit
You did the right thing. People very rarely understand how the new tech is going to work even though they seem similar. New tech is very often more efficient at processing Even if you have them at the same clocks. The reason is is the memory is typically running at a higher speed as well and it was designed more efficiently.
Rempulse@reddit
And here I was wondering if going from 3060ti to 5070 or should I save for 5070ti
alfiejr23@reddit
The 5070 is fine. The sub just has unnecessary hate on it.
richman_300@reddit
I planned on doing the same but I guess the jump from a 2080ti to a 5070 isn’t a big upgrade.
observemedia@reddit
I went from a 3080 to a 5070ti. It was a significant upgrade, from noise and heat to FG and overall stability. Not to mention running local LLMs with the VRAM upgrade. Overclocked as well. I sold the 3080 for 400 and got the 5070ti at MRSP. It was definitely worth it for me.
KOMETsdg@reddit
Hop on to this, what if I want to jump from 1070ti? The area around me have 3080ti listed at $300~ and 5070 around $650~ I only use 1080p and from my time with 1070ti, the 3080ti should be enough but would the fancy new tech and warranty worth the double?
tandir_boy@reddit
What does this have anything to do with Family Guy?
Crowley120@reddit
I’m not sure why people are saying this is a side grade the 5070 is 10-20% better with access to frame gen and better handling of ray tracing its not life changing but it’s certainly noticeably better. A 5070 ti or 4080 (if you were able to find it at a reasonable price) would’ve probably made more sense but since you play at 1080 p I don’t really see anything wrong with this.
Illustrious-Ear-6300@reddit
Sadly I can't afford any upgrades at this time so hopefully my 308010gb holds out a little longer. I was looking at the 9070xt tho
Karnevaali17@reddit
Congrats on upgrade, I hope you do enjoy, 5070 is pretty decent card these days with the driver improvements it has got since launch. If you are able to stand a bit of picture imperfections, FrameGen on lower multipliers feels pretty decent jump forwards and path-tracing is definitely doable on the card.
plutosaurus@reddit
room definitely cooler now
Patryllo25@reddit
Try it now in video editting , difference should be 2x in terms of waiting for video rendering in 4k , omce i switch from 4070 to 5080 I was in awe how fast files were rendering in sony vegas ( i could render 1tb file with 500mb bitrate in about 20min) lol
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
Too bad I don't do video editing at all :) Just programming and gaming
Patryllo25@reddit
In that case I would upgrade straight to 5070 ti, or not at all.. but as you said, with using FG x2 or 3x you should have massive difference so it's really up how much did you pay for it to justify this upgrade :)
beirch@reddit
OP: "I won't even mention that thing"
Mentions that thing
hibari112@reddit
Guys I used framegen and my fps doubled wow!
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
Yea failed to mention that when I used FSR with 3080, there was ghosting, lagging and not so smooth gameplay
Fast-Shallot2417@reddit
At what resolution do you play Cyberpunk ? 720p to achieve that fps?
Suchgoodgoodboi@reddit (OP)
1080p
Appropriate-Math2360@reddit
I’m on a 5070 with 4x frame gen max settings path tracking at 200 fps! (LOL but it’s completely unplayable garbage)
me7337@reddit
Must be 1080p. I get about 40 - 50 FPS with PT and DLAA
Huge-Attitude9892@reddit
It is 1080p. I tested CP2077 with a 5070 (Crowds were set to medium due to my CPU). And even at native i got around 40-50fps with PT on and almost everything maxed out.
kmkm2op@reddit
Also that crimson desert rr fps. Is it 3 times frame gen with dlss quality at 1080p. That game kinda looks not great at native aa 1080p ngl and with it likely being 1080p quality upscaling it'll probably look fried. Something is off with upscaling in that game.
BoutTreeFittee@reddit
If you please, how much did you pay for this upgrade?
Level_Elevator_310@reddit
I jumped from 3080 to 5080. insane!
Hrmerder@reddit
OP sees the gains but it’s most probably just the 1% lows doing much better than actually performing better, but it’s what it is.
Lonely_Platform7702@reddit
Don't forget to OC the 5070 it's an easy 10% extra performance. The 50XX series has a ton of OC headroom
Huge-Attitude9892@reddit
Sorry. I got a 5070,but i came from a 5060. Your upgrade wasn't really necessary IMO. Mine was due to +4GB vram and if not for ram prices,then i would have built a PC around the 5060. Sheit didn't even used the full PCIe lane.
But i don't see the 5070 as an upgrade from the 3080ti. It may have better PT performance,but thats all and i'm against using any AI upscalling/FG.
I'm not using PT with the 5070 and i rather go down with RT settings instead.
Al-Azraq@reddit
I upgraded from a 3070 Ti to a 5070 for this exact same reason. I 'only' gained 40-50% raster performance, but the 8 GB VRAM limitation was forcing me to play Battlefield 6 (which my most played game by far) in LOW textures and texture streaming issues, which was miserable.
The 3070 Ti was powerful enough for my needs, its 8 GB VRAM were not. I could have used this card for a couple more years if it had 12 gb.
A side benefit is that now I will be able to play CyberpunK and Indiana jones with Path Tracing using FG.
Also there was a sale on LDLC so I got it for 520 € plus Requiem as a gift.
Huge-Attitude9892@reddit
I didn't upgraded due some games. 5060 ran stuff i wanted,but the issue was its PCIe 5.0 X8 connector. Even if VRAM wasn't an issue i had problems in larger games like War Thunder and Fallout 76 with a lot of stutters. I felt that X8 lane and i don't even mention games like Spiderman 2 where you can feel that PCIe 3.0.
Even tho i still need to upgrade my rest of my stuff,but the annoying problems with the 5070 are gone.
I just don't get it why they built a budget card with that kind of PCIe connector when they know only budget rollers will gonna buy/use it long term and they don't always got a PCIe 5.0 X8 capable CPU/MOBO.
By the way i played games like Into The Radius 2/Half Life Alyx/STALKER 2/Walking Dead Saints&Sinners with the 5060 and due CPU limitations i still can't max them out with the 5070,but them unnecessary stutters(even tho VRAM wasn't ran out) are gone now. Virtual Desktop helped me a lot cutting VRAM usage in VR and i don't upgrade from my Quest 2. I will use it until its dead
Sharp-Opportunity-84@reddit
I would say its still worth of swap considering u get 80% money back by selling 3080ti for new features and longetivity
Quma-be-esh@reddit
I understand the newer technologies are better on 5070 but all around performance isn't that big maybe maximum 10% better in certain scenarios , i had 3080 TI also before and upgraded to 9070 XT when my 3080 TI started to pixelalite and that upgrade and i have no regrets its been great .
Radiant_Patience4994@reddit
Waste of money. 🥴
No_Spare1827@reddit
Wait where do u see a 3080ti being the same as a 5070. I think u got a decent upgrade for sure, enjoy it
123_alex@reddit
https://youtu.be/5HI1rZRzHTQ
No_Spare1827@reddit
Yeah but OP specifically uses raytracing which is a world of difference between the 3080ti and the 5070
Far_Bad_5847@reddit
It’s a definite upgrade. I love my 5070, enjoy brother!
S10_Ivanov@reddit
5070 beats a 3090 so it definitely doesn't have the same performance as a 3080ti. Also the power draw is significantly less for more performance.
123_alex@reddit
https://youtu.be/5HI1rZRzHTQ
S10_Ivanov@reddit
Uhh thanks for proving my point? I am not sure exactly why you did that but aight
Alex_Llamin@reddit
Congrats, raw performance wise you’ve upgraded from RTX 4070 Super to RTX 4070 Ti (non-Super)
keyboardplatoon@reddit
5070ti would be reasonable upgrade. 5070 is not. I also had 3080ti and decided to go with 5080. 5070ti is the most value for your money though
spboss91@reddit
I upgraded from a 3080 to 5070 and was underwhelmed with the 4k performance, so I returned it.
I recently sold the 3080 and bought a used 5080 for a much lower cost, and that was worth the upgrade.
mihaajlovic@reddit
I also got 5070, however I had 3070, which should be a lot weaker than 3080 ti, so I will notice it more I guess.
But I wouldn’t say it’s a sidegrade as other do here. Enjoy it mate
123_alex@reddit
https://youtu.be/5HI1rZRzHTQ
mihaajlovic@reddit
On raw power, yes. But maybe they got it for the new AI stuff that 30 series doesn’t yet have.
AlphisH@reddit
I've honestly been tempted to go from 3090 to 5070ti. Turning down settings and still not having smooth frames is starting to bug the shit out of me. I just want to use framegen...
The only thing holding me back is that i get a use out of 24gb vram for 3d work, but 5090 is way out of my range.
MaverickPT@reddit
"SO, if anyone is asking themselves should they switch from 3080TI to 5070, they should." i mean I guess if they just want to waste their money. but you do you OP
123_alex@reddit
I hate having money
geemad7@reddit
If you want to pay that much money for software gimmicks and render at 720p, that is your choice.
If they where honest, they would have called a 5080 a 5070 and priced it as such. Then fill the gap up to 5090, the only real next gen card.
123_alex@reddit
If you're considering this move please watch this:
https://youtu.be/5HI1rZRzHTQ
Is terms of raw power, they are the same. Are AI features worth the cost? You decide.
If you consider your wallet, this is a downgrade.
someonegivemeusernam@reddit
Dude same, only difference is rtx 3080 12GB from 3050. Being able to achieve Dark Ages from low dlss p 75 fps to un dlss q 100 fps is very enjoyable.
123_alex@reddit
Congrats on the sidegrade.
Scytian@reddit
Are you benchmarking your games when looking at the sky exclusively, or maybe 720p? Because there is no way that you are getting these frames with these settings in 1080p on RTX 5070.
PermissionJaded5510@reddit
When stuff works... Nvidia is the best.
I also bought a RTX 5070. I had a 7700XT from 2023. It wasn't really an upgrade.. it was simply that I had a faulty AMD card that I had to get rid of. But now everything runs smoothly. So it is an upgrade.
May I ask what graphic driver you decided to go with please?