ULPT Request: Joined a vanpool two years ago under unfair conditions
Posted by watchloop@reddit | UnethicalLifeProTips | View on Reddit | 21 comments
I joined vanpool 2 years ago. As a condition of joining, the existing riders told me I had to meet them at their homes rather than being picked up from mine. I didn't love the arrangement, but my commute is long and expensive, so I agreed.
For nearly two years I've been driving my personal car about 10 minutes each way to meet them — adding 20 minutes of personal driving to my day, every single day, at my own expense. Every other rider gets door-to-door service. I'm the only one who doesn't.
Then in early 2026, one rider's office relocated, which reshuffled the drop-off order. I now have to drop two people off before continuing to my own office, which is further down the route. That was the breaking point for me. I finally asked them to start picking me up and dropping me off at my home, just like they do for everyone else.
They refused, claiming it would add mileage and push them over their monthly allowance, costing them out of pocket. Here's the thing though — I've caught them multiple times using the van for personal trips on weekends, like running errands and going shopping. So they're perfectly happy burning through the mileage allowance for their own convenience, but suddenly it's a problem when it's for me. That excuse doesn't hold up.
When I pushed back, things escalated and now they're threatening to remove me from the vanpool entirely. I reached out to the vanpool coordinators, and they encouraged me to resolve it informally to avoid friction — which honestly felt like being told to just accept the situation.
Though I can get help from the vanpool coordinators, I'm now looking for revenge. Are there ULPT tips you can suggest I do with them? Since they used the mileage as an excuse to not pick me up, I want to drive up the mileage somehow to screw them up. What other things I can do?
DigitalGurl@reddit
I’ve never heard of van pooling.
Is this through your city? Who is “they” a single person, everyone who rides? Who owns & provides the van?
Who is taking personal trips & using the van? Is it one person / a core group? Who pays for gas? Who drives the van?
Sorry for so many questions.
How long is the general commute? How far is the closet person to your home? How many people are in the group?
RealMcGonzo@reddit
Even stuff like what was the justification for OP to drive to the other houses. Who made that call?
hahahahthunk@reddit
Vanpooling is a great solution if you work in a city where parking is incredibly expensive, if your commute is really long, or if traffic is terrible and the carpool lanes are quick. Instead of paying $300/month for parking and sitting in stop-and-go traffic for an hour each way, you ride in a van and get stuff done for 30 minutes each way.
panic_bread@reddit
None if that answers the questions the commenter was asking. You’re explaining the why. They want to know the what..
AngryQuadricorn@reddit
Wouldn’t you still be sitting in stop-and-go traffic?
bandarine@reddit
They probably have carpool lanes, so driving with others could be less stop-and-go. And unless you're the driver you could work during the commute (or sleep or whatever one does in public transport).
snail_kat@reddit
Not in the carpool lane, usually
burghblast@reddit
Who are these people, how did you find them, who owns the van, who drives it, and why do you care what the owner does with it on the weekends? Are you paying for it? To me, a vanpool is just a bunch of neighbors taking turns driving. In any event, why keep doing it if it's not convenient for you? I do not understand the grudge.
StrangeKnee7254@reddit
Because it’s AI
ashleyshaefferr@reddit
What tipped you off
StrangeKnee7254@reddit
AI uses certain phrases, em dashes, hyphens. And what op mentioned the story is inconsistent with reality. It’s like an alien writing a carpool story but it doesn’t understand what a carpool actually is.
thehomeyskater@reddit
Yeah
Quick-Maintenance-67@reddit
Why would you pick up other people? Is the van your personal vehicle? Don't pick anyone up that defeats the purpose of a carpool, everyone meets where the main vehicle is, if everyone's using their personal vehicle it's a rotating schedule of who goes where.
Don't pick anyone up, don't warn anybody.
If you don't want to do this, suggest rules and have that s*** written down. If you're picking someone up they should be contributing to you.
AngryQuadricorn@reddit
Sounds like a bot
a5121221a@reddit
Lie to them and say the VA pool coordinator wants them to pick you up as part of the informal cooperation. Write an email to the vanpool coordiantor. We wordy so they stop reading after the first sentence. After the first two sentences of thanking them and telling them you'll work to resolve it informally, put the description of your conversation in writing, in enough detail that it provides justification of your lie to the vanpool. Finish it off with "Let me know I didn't get anything wrong. I''m calling them tonight."
It puts it on them to call and correct you, and if they say it isn't true, show the email as proof that they didn't say anything was wrong and hope they don't.
Yep_OK_Crack_On@reddit
Genius
rtmfb@reddit
Adding to traffic and pollution when you can avoid it is unethical, so driving yourself is the ULPT.
Everyday_Alien@reddit
There's not nearly enough info for an ULPT..
LPT, drive your own car and forget about these annoying people. Its much easier to wake up/gear down riding to/from work solo. Get the radio going and have a 1 person concert..
Actually maybe thats the ULPT. Start singing all the time and they will drop you off first..or maybe not pick u up at all..
SoggyMcChicken@reddit
The entire point of a vanpool is to not drive your own car…
Everyday_Alien@reddit
The entire point of a car is to get places. He already owns one of those and is driving it 20mins everyday already.
Wtf is your point?
fester250@reddit
Fart spray each time you leave the van.