Garmin Pilot 50% Discount for CFIs

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mhammaker@reddit

That's honestly brilliant. Get the CFI's hooked and they'll get their students hooked. A single 50% discount could create dozens of full price new users.

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320sim@reddit

Yep, that’s why professional software companies like Adobe and Autodesk provide steep student discounts. Get people hooked young and your product becomes industry standard

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dopexile@reddit

Yeah, it is smart. Part of the reason I always went with Foreflight is that that is what all of the CFIs and flight schools knew about, so if I needed to ask a question, it was no problem.

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Nnumber@reddit

It also means they have recognized the weakness of PE chasing short term returns and are playing the long game. Good for them.

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stoneguythepilotguy@reddit

My Foreflight subscription is expired. I’m currently finishing up CPL but have not renewed yet. What are your thoughts about Garmin pilot?

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Been using GP a long time. My all time favorite feature is the weather station overlay. Gives all the weather info for the region quickly at a glance without having to cycle through multiple layers like the other apps. A bit of a learning curve to learn how to read them but super useful.

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hamsterfart1973@reddit

I like it, I have been using it since 2018. Safe taxi and other features are really nice. Not sure if its with the plan I'm on, but if I keep zooming in on my sectional map after landing it'll automatically bring up the airport diagram showing where I am, orientation, and taxiways and everything is labeled.

I also use other Garmin products and have other subscriptions, which is part of why I chose Garmin Pilot initially over ForeFlight.

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Fulcrum58@reddit

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure ForeFlight does the same thing

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Bob_Ross3346@reddit

I think the new owners hobbled that program.

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VileInventor@reddit

It does.

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hamsterfart1973@reddit

Ah okay, didn't realize that

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zeropapagolf@reddit (OP)

It does

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FutureA350@reddit

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marc_2@reddit

There's a free trial. Give it a shot.

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Muted-Rhubarb2143@reddit

It is worth noting that if you take on six students a year and they use your referral link ForeFlight has the same discount. Every student after six is more. I believe this is useful context despite the persistent hate boner this forum has for ForeFlight.

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Nnumber@reddit

And it used to be that if you were a SAFE or NAFI member you got a discount without having to play a mid level marketing game to try to get referrals. That is cringe.

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Muted-Rhubarb2143@reddit

Ok so I had to join and pay dues for a bullshit organization before? how is a referral system not an improvement over that?

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pilotjlr@reddit

But this isn’t the whole story. From their website:

“Students must be invited through Instructor Tools in ForeFlight Logbook and must complete five signed logbook entries with you as their instructor. They must be new ForeFlight users who have not previously been on a paid subscription plan.”

So if you don’t invite them or they don’t use your invite link - doesn’t count.

If they don’t use foreflight logbook, or if you don’t sign their ForeFlight logbook 5 times - doesn’t count.

Or if they bought ForeFlight before they met you - doesn’t count.

Significant barriers to getting this done. You’re basically a ForeFlight sales person at this point.

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zeropapagolf@reddit (OP)

My difficulty with that is the students you refer have to be first-time ForeFlight users. If they’ve ever had a paid subscription before it doesn’t count. Since I very rarely instruct a zero-time student, that doesn’t work for me.

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GaryMooreAustin@reddit

this is genius. Foreflight's recent changes may end up moving Garmin into the lead slot

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Atlanta_Mane@reddit

Great opportunity for garmin, considering foreflight got taken over by private equity and fired a ton of their staff.

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xyberslut@reddit

Hopefully their international coverage gets better. Right now they can’t hold a candle to FF for international ops as far as I can tell. If that changes I would move to GP in a heartbeat.

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FlyingShadow1@reddit

Well, guess I'm switching when my sub to foreflight is done. The fact I can also get Jepp plates plus this for the coat I pay just for foreflight cements Garmin pilot as the future for us.

Just pray they never sell to Private Equity.

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org000h@reddit

It's a public company doing a couple of billion per quarter.

Mostly owned by private investors and retirement funds eg State Street, Vanguard and Blackrock.

Not many PE firms have the clout or $$$ to try and purchase it.

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lil_layne@reddit

I mean Foreflight was owned by Boeing (a massive public company) before it was sold to PE.

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org000h@reddit

Very different businesses and use cases.

Boeing had no business entering the GA EFB market, it was hoping to transition it to its operators instead of the custom hack jobs they currently run. FF is mostly part 91 and some 135. They wanted it in 121.

A mess of the 737, 777X etc left it needing some quick cash after a few shit quarters burning money on it, and to focus back on building planes. FF was back on the market.

Garmin Aviation on the other hand are mostly in 91/135, and the Pilot app is an extension of their avionics.

I doubt they'd ever let it go.

It's also excellent - I've been a paying customer for 5 or 6 years now. It made me buy all Garmin avionics for my Yak, and they integrate seamlessly.

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alexthe5th@reddit

Buying Garmin would be up among the largest privaty equity deals of all time. That one's not happening.

The more likely way it could get in the hands of PE is if Garmin spun off the Garmin Pilot business, potentially along with other aviation or software assets, and sold that off. Considering that's a strategically important business for Garmin right now, I don't foresee that being a likely outcome either.

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BrianBash@reddit

Shit, I might as well get both.

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lil_layne@reddit

I was thinking about switching to Garmin Pilot when my Foreflight subscription expired but I wasn’t fully onboard with the idea just because I am so used to Foreflight’s software. This discount would 100% be enough to get me to switch and give a middle finger to the private equity firm that laid off the majority of Foreflight’s staff.

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This could move even more people away from ForeFlight, as their discount program was slashed a few months ago.

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